"no (sham)poo" movement

[EGVG]

Re: "no poo" movement

we have also ditched our antiperspirant and changed to baking soda. No more expensive little waxy "bullets" to zap our underarms!

How do you get it to stay on? I would like to try this. Does it work well?

I make my own deodorant with magnesium milk. 5 table spoons of magnesium milk, 1 tea spoon of teatree oil, and 2 table spoon of bicarbonate soda, I just mix it well and then store it in a roll on deodorant bottle, just make sure to shake it well before using it!! You can buy deodorant bottles in a plastic container store. And also you can add any essential oil you may like, I'd recommend.this ones: lemon, peppermint, bergamot, rosemary and lavender.

 

[LQB]

Re: "no poo" movement

we have also ditched our antiperspirant and changed to baking soda. No more expensive little waxy "bullets" to zap our underarms!

How do you get it to stay on? I would like to try this. Does it work well?

I make my own deodorant with magnesium milk. 5 table spoons of magnesium milk, 1 tea spoon of teatree oil, and 2 table spoon of bicarbonate soda, I just mix it well and then store it in a roll on deodorant bottle, just make sure to shake it well before using it!! You can buy deodorant bottles in a plastic container store. And also you can add any essential oil you may like, I'd recommend.this ones: lemon, peppermint, bergamot, rosemary and lavender.

What has worked well for me is to mix coconut oil with baking soda and keep a jar of it on the bathroom counter. It does a great job on the teeth for brushing and a small dab under the arms works great even after several days without a shower - dual purpose solution.

 

[Lirpa]

Re: "no poo" movement

I made my own deoderant out of coconut oil, baking soda and cornstarch and it did not kill the B.O. Plus any crystal salt deoderants or baking soda makes my armpits red and angry.

I have been using Balmex (diaper rash ointment with zinc) as a deoderent and it works well and my armpits are not red and angry.

 

[Josi]

Re: "no poo" movement

I made my own deoderant out of coconut oil, baking soda and cornstarch and it did not kill the B.O. Plus any crystal salt deoderants or baking soda makes my armpits red and angry.

I have been using Balmex (diaper rash ointment with zinc) as a deoderent and it works well and my armpits are not red and angry.

Colloidal silver works really well as deodorant.

 

[Gwenllian]

Re: "no poo" movement

Try rinsing your hair with rosemary water, it's the best for oily, thin, flat hair. ;)

Do you make your own rosemary water, starmie? Just boil some herbs in water? :/

As a deodorant I use balm for baby buttocks from Weleda, but only if I have to. It contains zinc oxide and some great smelling essential oils. But I did hear from a herbalist that zinc oxide closes off the skin. Which makes sense, as it is used for the buttocks.
When I am at home I only wash my armpits with soap and cold water and have found that I do not smell. In summertime it helps me when I wear airy clothes and although sweating I still do not smell. When I was in Africa I noticed these men and women wearing these long robes, but with their armpits free and they did not smell at all. And I am sure they did not use any deodorant. Just a quick wash a few times a day, even without soap I was told! The man that told me this laughed at us for being so addicted to soap (my words).

 

[EGVG]

Re: "no poo" movement

Try rinsing your hair with rosemary water, it's the best for oily, thin, flat hair. ;)

Do you make your own rosemary water, starmie? Just boil some herbs in water? :/

As a deodorant I use balm for baby buttocks from Weleda, but only if I have to. It contains zinc oxide and some great smelling essential oils. But I did hear from a herbalist that zinc oxide closes off the skin. Which makes sense, as it is used for the buttocks.
When I am at home I only wash my armpits with soap and cold water and have found that I do not smell. In summertime it helps me when I wear airy clothes and although sweating I still do not smell. When I was in Africa I noticed these men and women wearing these long robes, but with their armpits free and they did not smell at all. And I am sure they did not use any deodorant. Just a quick wash a few times a day, even without soap I was told! The man that told me this laughed at us for being so addicted to soap (my words).

Hi Mariama, I take fresh rosemary and put it in a glass bowl and completely cover it with boiling water, I let it sit for like 4 hours. Then I use it to rinse my shampoo or as a cleanser the days I don't wanna use shampoo. It's really good at controlling oil.

Zinc oxide is great! Where did you heard it's comedogenic? I think in Africa they DO use deodorant, make out of spices and clay. :)

I wanted to share that I used to be a shampoo junky (everyday), like up to last week, then after reading this thread I decided to stop using shampoo for a week, and MAN!!! My hair is regrowing, I'm only using my rosemary water and every four days I do an aloe vera over night mask, I'm shocked to see my hair so healthy in so little time, just by stopping to shampoo my hair daily. :) :)

 

[Gwenllian]

Re: "no poo" movement

Hi Mariama, I take fresh rosemary and put it in a glass bowl and completely cover it with boiling water, I let it sit for like 4 hours. Then I use it to rinse my shampoo or as a cleanser the days I don't wanna use shampoo. It's really good at controlling oil.

That is good to know, thanks!

Zinc oxide is great! Where did you heard it's comedogenic? I think in Africa they DO use deodorant, make out of spices and clay. :)

A herbalist told me that zinc oxide closes off the skin. But I noticed that I did sweat after a long bike ride, so I am not sure whether the information is correct. Also, the cream is wonderful for the skin.
Which spices do they use in Africa and do they just apply clay to the skin?

I wanted to share that I used to be a shampoo junky (everyday), like up to last week, then after reading this thread I decided to stop using shampoo for a week, and MAN!!! My hair is regrowing, I'm only using my rosemary water and every four days I do an aloe vera over night mask, I'm shocked to see my hair so healthy in so little time, just by stopping to shampoo my hair daily. :) :)

That is great!
I also used to wash my hair every day or every other day and have stopped doing that for some years now. And I rinse my hair with water and vinegar. Still, my skin starts itching after a while and I haven't had the same results as you report.
My hair has been falling out badly these past few years and nothing seems to help. So I think it may have to do with the diet.

I will definitely try the rosemary water! I will report back, if anything significant happens. ;)

 

[shellycheval]

Re: "no poo" movement

A simple solution to eliminating all the problems (stripped hair cuticles, frizziness, split ends, thinning, loss, dull, fragile, fly-away etc.) caused by shampoo ( any version of sodium laural sulfate) then is to never use it on your hair.

Instead whenever you feel a need to clean your hair, use only a good conditioner (organic with as few ingredients as possible). The results from doing this alone will amaze you.
shellycheval

 

[Gwenllian]

Re: "no poo" movement

A simple solution to eliminating all the problems (stripped hair cuticles, frizziness, split ends, thinning, loss, dull, fragile, fly-away etc.) caused by shampoo ( any version of sodium laural sulfate) then is to never use it on your hair.

Instead whenever you feel a need to clean your hair, use only a good conditioner (organic with as few ingredients as possible). The results from doing this alone will amaze you.
shellycheval

So, no organic shampoo either? I have used Urtekram shampoo these past few years, which I really like. But there is some corn in it.

I also heard that people with oily hair just have to stop washing their hair with shampoo for about six weeks and then the skin will adjust and stop producing all this oil. :D

 

[Gawan]

Re: "Life Without Bread"

Take heart Gertrudes and everyone who wants better hair.

There is no reason to have greasy hair at anytime during the process of quitting shampoo (or any hair cleanser with any version of sodium Laural Sulfate in it).

Because you do not stop cleaning your hair--you just stop cleaning it with shampoo.

Begin eliminating the use of shampoo by finding a good conditioner, ideally something with minimal harmful chemicals (Google organic hair care products for info) but almost any conditioner will do to start.

Clean/wash your hair every day with the conditioner.

The oils in the conditioner are solvent to the excess oils produced by your scalp from stripping it of its natural protection all those years with shampoo, and will clean your hair beautifully.

You will have clean, grease free hair every day.

After a few weeks of cleaning your hair daily with conditioner, most people can cut back and clean the hair every other day with the same results--glossy shiny, strong hair with no frizz.

Eventually most people find 2-3 times a week are enough depending on your activities. I work outside everyday in the summer heat so find every day or every other day cleaning is needed, while in cooler, dryer weather cleaning with conditioner 2-3 times a week is enough--in between I clean my hair by scrubbing my scalp with my hands in the shower using water alone.

Remember--you do not stop cleaning your hair; you change what you are cleaning your hair with.
We have been brainwashed to equate "shampooing" with cleaning in general and think that to stop using shampoo will mean greasy hair and this is not true. Good luck and Good hair! :D
shellycheval

What I'm wondering about: I had a talk at the Barcelona-conference about not shampooing the hair, and the people I talked with had an itchy scalp. At least for me, I didn't use shampoo for about 2 months now (just conditioner every 2 days) and also have the same problem: the hair is soft, not fatty but the scalp is itchy with a build up of pimples somehow. So for me it is at the moment kind of a 50/50 thing, cause I don't like fluffy hair after using a shampoo, but also the itchiness isn't too comfortable. Have you experienced the same thing and if what have you done about it?

 

[Laura]

Re: "Life Without Bread"

What I'm wondering about: I had a talk at the Barcelona-conference about not shampooing the hair, and the people I talked with had an itchy scalp. At least for me, I didn't use shampoo for about 2 months now (just conditioner every 2 days) and also have the same problem: the hair is soft, not fatty but the scalp is itchy with a build up of pimples somehow. So for me it is at the moment kind of a 50/50 thing, cause I don't like fluffy hair after using a shampoo, but also the itchiness isn't too comfortable. Have you experienced the same thing and if what have you done about it?

I use a scrubbie on my head. AKA shampoo brush: See: http://www.amazon.com/Scalpmaster-Shampoo-Brush/dp/B000NJG82W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319955458&sr=8-3

 

[istina]

Re: "Life Without Bread"

Take heart Gertrudes and everyone who wants better hair.

There is no reason to have greasy hair at anytime during the process of quitting shampoo (or any hair cleanser with any version of sodium Laural Sulfate in it).

Because you do not stop cleaning your hair--you just stop cleaning it with shampoo.

Begin eliminating the use of shampoo by finding a good conditioner, ideally something with minimal harmful chemicals (Google organic hair care products for info) but almost any conditioner will do to start.

Clean/wash your hair every day with the conditioner.

(...)

What I'm wondering about: I had a talk at the Barcelona-conference about not shampooing the hair, and the people I talked with had an itchy scalp. At least for me, I didn't use shampoo for about 2 months now (just conditioner every 2 days) and also have the same problem: the hair is soft, not fatty but the scalp is itchy with a build up of pimples somehow. So for me it is at the moment kind of a 50/50 thing, cause I don't like fluffy hair after using a shampoo, but also the itchiness isn't too comfortable. Have you experienced the same thing and if what have you done about it?

Ever since I read that, I use only conditioner. My hair is not greasy at all, and I need to wash my hair a lot less.
But I noticed the occurrence of dandruff, which I've never had before. Maybe because I did not find enough good conditioner, I do not know.

 

[shellycheval]

Mariama

So, no organic shampoo either? I have used Urtekram shampoo these past few years, which I really like. But there is some corn in it.

I also heard that people with oily hair just have to stop washing their hair with shampoo for about six weeks and then the skin will adjust and stop producing all this oil. :D

Nothing with any variation of the harsh cleansing soap sodium laural sulfate--google for the aliases and check labels, but it is generally safer to avoid anything that says shampoo or creates any suds.

Some people have a longer adjustment period before the scalp stops overproducing oil in a protective response to put back what the shampoo has stripped away--up to six months for some which is probably what is happening with you Gawan. Or you may have a very sensitive scalp and something in the conditioner is irritating it, or every two day is too much.

Experiment with different conditioners and give your scalp a longer rest between cleanings if you can--just massage your scalp under warm, not real hot, water and see how it goes.
shellycheval

 

[Gawan]

Mariama

So, no organic shampoo either? I have used Urtekram shampoo these past few years, which I really like. But there is some corn in it.

I also heard that people with oily hair just have to stop washing their hair with shampoo for about six weeks and then the skin will adjust and stop producing all this oil. :D

Nothing with any variation of the harsh cleansing soap sodium laural sulfate--google for the aliases and check labels, but it is generally safer to avoid anything that says shampoo or creates any suds.

Some people have a longer adjustment period before the scalp stops overproducing oil in a protective response to put back what the shampoo has stripped away--up to six months for some which is probably what is happening with you Gawan. Or you may have a very sensitive scalp and something in the conditioner is irritating it, or every two day is too much.

Experiment with different conditioners and give your scalp a longer rest between cleanings if you can--just massage your scalp under warm, not real hot, water and see how it goes.
shellycheval

Okay, thank you both Shelly and Laura, so I stay persistent and give it more time and do some different things too. And the tool Laura looks satisfying.


And good to know there is a topic of it's own, this one here, and the messages got already moved.

 

[Pierre]

Nothing with any variation of the harsh cleansing soap sodium laural sulfate--google for the aliases and check labels, but it is generally safer to

Indeed, SLS has about 20 aliases. One tricky alias is "Sodium salt" which makes one thinks it's just salt (sodium chloride) though it's not.