Paris shootout, explosions, casualties

Woodsman said:
Isn't *any* ISIS action essentially a false flag? -ISIS being a handled Western asset, and all.

As such, I don't really think these shootings were about reprisals for attacks on ISIS positions and leaders so much as they are an excuse to hammer Europe into line through applied fear. This kind of thing was always on the books as a potential regardless of Russian actions against ISIS; Syrian refugees have been fleeing for months now.

Yeah but who were the sponsors, for munitions, automatic weapons, logistics, Intel, coordination of events, money, transportation, and who benefits?????? Etc, Etc, Etc....? Round up the usual suspect's whom have no association of the issue while the guilty (spooks), go free to live and thrive another day.
 
c.a. said:
Woodsman said:
Isn't *any* ISIS action essentially a false flag? -ISIS being a handled Western asset, and all.

As such, I don't really think these shootings were about reprisals for attacks on ISIS positions and leaders so much as they are an excuse to hammer Europe into line through applied fear. This kind of thing was always on the books as a potential regardless of Russian actions against ISIS; Syrian refugees have been fleeing for months now.

Yeah but who were the sponsors, for munitions, automatic weapons, logistics, Intel, coordination of events, money, transportation, and who benefits?????? Etc, Etc, Etc....? Round up the usual suspect's whom have no association of the issue while the guilty (spooks), go free to live and thrive another day.

I think one of the key issues that the level of operational intelligence, and organization shown in this attack reeks of professional training and help from the inside. The French intel must have failed monumentally to allow this to happen, and no matter what was the driving force behind this attack or who these attackers actually were, I think it is fairly certain that the puppet masters will use this to further the instability in Europe, the hatred against Muslims and to continue the information war against Russia.
 
Aragorn said:
The Saker is perhaps overreacting (again) with his latest, but it gives some food for thought:

_http://thesaker.is/a-warning-about-the-paris-terror-attacks/
A warning about the Paris terror attacks

Dear friends,

While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.

Coincidences?

You tell me.

The Saker
I would not be surprised if the foreign legion same moment sent to Syria.Question that arises is whether the European Union to follow the American example in 2001 ?!
 
loreta said:
In almost all the articles read they put emphasis on the machine guns that the "terrorists" used: a kalashnikov that are from... Russia. :halo:

Copy cats are a dime dozen, with other country's in hot pursuit of the monies that may be acquired in profits from cheap knock offs. But i understand your logic.
Just sayin.

Bulgarian AK-74

Vz-58 vs. AK-47 Comparison - Czech Vz-58 Compared To The AK-47 Kalashnikov
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYs5rKrS53Q


AK-47
Variants
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#Variants
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
The AK-47 has been manufactured in many countries and has seen service with armed forces as well as irregular forces worldwide, and was the basis for developing many other types of individual and crew-served firearms. As of 2004, out of the estimated 500 million firearms worldwide, approximately 100 million belong to the Kalashnikov family, three-quarters of which are AK-47s.[3]
 
Laura said:
Jihadi John 'dead': MI5 on alert amid fears of Isil revenge attack - as it happened
American officials say we may never know whether the drone strike did indeed kill Jihadi John

Maybe they already have him on ice somewhere so he can pulled out whenever convenient.
 
Renaissance said:
This article is in Russian, but was provided by a FB friend who said that the article states, "Witnesses reported terrorists spoke good French"

Witnesses reported the same during the Charlie Hebdo shootings as well.

Yeah, and this article in Russian says that it was determined from the fingerprints that one was French, the identity of other two was determined to be Syrian and Egyptian from the passports that were found in the area of the explosion, but not from the bodies, since they blew themselves up. Now where did we hear about the "magically surviving passports" before? :rolleyes:

Also, apparently the terrorists arrived in a Volkswagen with German plates. They were also wearing expensive black suits, so security didn't even bother to ask what people in expensive suits can have in their bags. That's the story, at least.
 
One of my friends posted this today. I think it sums up a large part of the goal of this attack.

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I would be very surprised if this turns out not to be a standard false-flag attack. But I am so sick of this world right now. It is the same shit over and over, murder and misery and an information war behind it all that turns people's brains to mush. If we're meant to just sit and watch this until the show is over, I cannot take much more of it.
 
Laura said:
Jihadi John 'dead': MI5 on alert amid fears of Isil revenge attack - as it happened
American officials say we may never know whether the drone strike did indeed kill Jihadi John

By Harriet Alexander, Leon Watson, Barney Henderson and David Millward

6:24AM GMT 14 Nov 2015

Summary: what we know so far

[...] A British drone, operating from Lincolnshire, helped track Emwazi, although what are believed to have been the fatal shots were fired by the Americans. According to one report he was tracked for six weeks before the decisive strike was made.


Interesting, going back six weeks - brings us to the air strikes on the DWB hospital in Kunduz. Going down events in a limited timeline, it looks like Russia foiled terrorist attacks on Oct. 14 and Oct. 21st and possibly (?) November 8th. The U.S. Navy launching a Second Ballistic Missile Test over the Pacific and Secret Military Operations diverting LAX planes for a week might be in fear of ISIS reprisals?
Then there's the odd report on Nov. 11 - Paramilitary police in Miami force passengers to leave plane at gunpoint because of a Dentist's medical bag?

September 29th U.S. air strikes on the Kunduz, Afghanistan Hospital.
http://www.sott.net/article/303209-Hypocrisy-American-airstrike-in-Afghanistan-hits-hospital-kills-at-least-50-doctors-patients-and-civilians

It reported that from 02:08 until 03:15 local time, the hospital was hit by a series of aerial bombing raids at approximately 15-minute intervals.

The main central hospital building - housing the intensive care unit, emergency rooms, and physiotherapy ward - was repeatedly hit during each aerial raid while surrounding buildings were left mostly untouched, it added.


Oct. 2 - US transport plane crashes in Afghanistan killing 12
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/11905990/US-transport-plane-crashes-in-Afghanistan.html

The city is close to the eastern border with Pakistan, an area prone to Taliban attacks.

The plane's five-man crew died, according to a US military spokesman, along with five passengers, civilians contracted by the US-led coalition.


Oct. 14 - U.S. Warns Russia Of “Reprisal Attacks” … Russia Foils Attempted “Reprisal Attacks”
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/u-s-warns-russia-of-reprisal-attacks-russia-foils-attempted-reprisal-attacks.html

In yet another “coincidence” that many would suggest is an example of the direct control over international terror networks by NATO and the U.S., only days after U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter warned Russia that it would see reprisal terror attacks within its borders as a result of the Russian intervention in Syria, Russian authorities have announced the disruption of a plot to conduct bombings of Russian railway systems by jihadist terrorists.

It is thus a very interesting coincidence that, so soon after Carter’s remarks, Russia would indeed face “reprisal attacks” within its own borders.


Oct. 21 - Cell of Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami terrorist organization eliminated in Moscow Region
http://tass.ru/en/politics/830290

A cell of Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami international terrorist organization has been eliminated in the Moscow Region, Interior Ministry official spokesperson Elena Alexeyeva told TASS on Tuesday.

The members of the group recruited Muslims, distributed banned literature and collected money to provide financial assistance to militants.

"Special operations were carried out in the framework of the criminal case on organizing and participating in the terrorist organization instituted by Interior Ministry’s investigative department in Moscow. Searches were carried out in 24 places where Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami members lived. Among seized evidence were bank cards, electronic and printed extremist materials and other kinds of prohibited literature propagating changing Russia’s constitutional regime and establishing a global caliphate," Alexeyeva explained.


Oct. 26 - Ya’alon to discuss military support during US trip
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/21891-yaalon-to-discuss-military-support-during-us-trip

Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Ya’alon has travelled late on Sunday to the United States for a three- day working visit, an Israeli channel reported.

Israel’s Channel Seven reported that “Ya’alon will discuss security relations between the United States and Israel and the tense situation in the Middle East, especially Syria.”


October 26 - IS militants airlifted from Syria to Yemen, Saudi Arabia — Syrian army spokesman
http://tass.ru/en/world/832207

According to the reconnaissance data, on October 26 four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen) with more than 500 IS militants taken from Syria on board.

According to him, "the militants were met by officers of the Saudi coalition that took them from the airport in three groups. The first went to the city of Al-Bab in Mandeb province (Yemen), the second — to Marib (Yemen), the third — to the Saudi regions of Jizan and Asir."


October 27 - Washington's Syria "Strategy" In Complete Disarray As "Ally" Turkey Bombs US-Armed Rebels
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-27/washingtons-syria-strategy-complete-disarray-ally-turkey-bombs-us-armed-rebels

Turkey only got NATOs support for the politically motivated crackdown on the PKK because Ankara agreed to bundle said crackdown with a military campaign against ISIS. But the Syrian Kurds are the most effective ground force of them all when it comes to combating Islamic State. Because those Syrian Kurds are aligned with the PKK, Turkey is effectively trying to say its army is fighting ISIS, the PKK, and YPG all at once even as both the PKK and the YPG are also fighting ISIS

Turkey has confirmed that it struck positions in Syria held by Kurdish militias that over the last year have become the most important allies within Syria of the American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State.


October 27 - Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sec-carter-direct-u-s-action-ground-iraq-syria-n452131


October 30 - Obama Sends Special Operations Forces to Help Fight ISIS in Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world/obama-will-send-forces-to-syria-to-help-fight-the-islamic-state.html

WASHINGTON — President Obama announced on Friday that he had ordered several dozen Special Operations troops into Syria for the first open-ended mission by United States ground forces in that country, deepening American involvement in a war he has tried to avoid for more than four years.


October 30 - Kerry’s Debacle in Vienna
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/03/kerrys-debacle-in-vienna/

Can someone explain to me why President Obama decided to announce that he’s going to deploy U.S. Special Forces to Syria on the same day that Secretary of State John Kerry was scheduled to meet with Russian and Iranian diplomats to discuss how to end the four and a half year-long war?


October 31 - Crash: Metrojet A321 over Sinai
https://www.rt.com/news/320217-russian-plane-off-radars/
https://www.rt.com/news/320225-plane-crash-russian-egypt/

A Russian plane carrying over 220 people from Egypt to Russia disappeared from radars, according to Russian and Egyptian authorities. It is believed to have crushed in central Sinai.


November 6 - Secret military operations to divert LAX planes for a week
http://abc7.com/news/secret-military-operations-to-divert-lax-planes-for-a-week/1072890/

Mysterious maneuvers over the Pacific are forcing a change in Los Angeles International Airport landings late at night.

Instead of landing from the east over Inglewood, planes begin flying from the west and over the ocean to keep noise levels down, but due to secret military operations, the airspace over the Pacific is closed to incoming flights for the next week.

The military is not saying what exactly is causing the change, and LAX claims it's also in the dark. Castles said all they know is planes can't be flying at low altitudes to our west.


November 7 - Naval missile test flight causes bright light to streak across sky
http://abc7.com/news/hundreds-report-mystery-light-flying-through-sky/1073739/

A missile test flight from a submarine left hundreds of people from Southern California to Nevada and Arizona perplexed as it caused a bright light to streak across the sky Saturday night.

The Pentagon issued a statement that the Navy Strategic Systems Programs conducted a scheduled test of a Trident II (D5) missile from USS Kentucky, an Ohio class submarine.


November 7 - Media tycoon & former Russian press minister Lesin dies from heart attack at 57
https://www.rt.com/news/321121-lesin-dies-heart-attack/

Mikhail Lesin, a prominent Russian political figure and mass media expert credited with inspiring the creation of Russia Today (now RT), has died in Washington, DC after a heart attack.


November 8 - Putin signs temporary ban on passenger flights from Russia to Egypt
http://tass.ru/en/society/834736

The decree obliges the government "to take measures to ensure the return of Russian citizens staying in Egypt and their luggage back to Russia"

Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree on temporary ban of passenger flights from Russia to Egypt. The text of the decree was posted on the portal of legal information on Sunday.

"Russian air companies are temporarily banned from making flights [including commercial] from Russia to Egypt, with the exception of flights [including commercial] to transport Russian citizens commissioned by the state authorities and federal agencies to Egypt for work-related purposes," the document says.


(?) November 8 - (?) Putin's special forces 'foil ISIS terror attack' planned for south Russia after woman led police to the group after her Jihadi husband took a second wife
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3307196/Putin-s-special-forces-foil-ISIS-terror-attack-planned-south-Russia-woman-led-police-group-Jihadi-husband-took-second-wife.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Russian Special Forces have prevented an ISIS terror attack in the south of Russia after uncovering a huge bomb hidden in plastic casks on the side of the road.

The terror attack was scheduled to take place in the village of Kantyshevo in south-western Russia's Republic of Ingushetia.

Russian security services said the bomb contained 3.5 tonnes (7,716 lbs) of explosives.


November 9 - Israel and US look to heal relationship as Netanyahu visits Washington
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/netanyahu-obama-washington-israel-military-aid-iran

Israeli and US government officials are hoping to patch up battered relations between the two countries when Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu visits Washington this week, for meetings with Barack Obama and leading Democrats.

November 9 - PM Netanyahu meets with US President Obama
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDL2objVolk#t=150


November 9 - Navy Launches Second Ballistic Missile Test in Pacific
http://defensetech.org/2015/11/09/navy-launches-second-ballistic-missile-test-in-pacific/

The U.S. Navy has launched a second unarmed ballistic missile from a submarine in the Pacific as part of a test of the technology, a Pentagon spokesman said.

It occurred around noon local time Monday and came two days after the USS Kentucky (SSBN-737), an Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine, launched an unarmed Trident II D5 nuclear missile in the Pacific Test Range off the coast of southern California.


November 11 - Paramilitary police in Miami force passengers to leave plane at gunpoint
_http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/11/11/miam-n11.html

On Monday evening, an American Airlines flight from Miami, Florida to Barbados was boarded by a paramilitary police unit wielding assault rifles, who demanded that passengers put their hands on their heads as they were forced off the flight.

Large sectors of the airport were effectively placed under lockdown during the operation. The gates of terminal cafes and restaurants were closed, leaving patrons locked inside by iron bars as police SWAT teams decked out in body armor and toting assault rifles swept through the terminal.

Some 70 flights were delayed and nine were diverted as a result of the lockdown, which shut down two concourses for almost three hours.


November 14 - Terror Suspects Are Frequent Targets of U.S. Drones
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/terror-suspects-are-frequent-targets-u-s-drones-n463036

The United States launched an airstrike Thursday in Syria that targeted an ISIS terrorist known as "Jihadi John," once again relying on unmanned drones to attack the most notorious militants in the world.

Here is a timeline of some of the most notorious terror suspects killed by U.S. drone strikes (starting in 2009).
 
A french citizen was detained at Gatwick airport in London, upon searching him, the security personnel found a gun, the airport was evacuated:
https://twitter.com/brightonargus/status/665475989292638208/photo/1 , the info i found it on it.sputniknews, scaremongering in plane action indeed.

_http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14032046.Passengers_evacuated_from_Gatwick_s_north_terminal/
 
I am frequently in the district of the Bataclan concert hall and since the Charlie Hebdo attack I have ALWAYS seen a gendarmerie van parked in front of 75 bd Richard Lenoir which is less than 300 meters from the Bataclan. Usually there are two or three policemen with assault rifle on the chest. You can see it on Streetview.

I have always wondered : why a police van at this precise location ?

It’s about 300 meters from the Charlie Hebdo’s building. There was some reason in the following weeks : it was a place where people put flowers, candles, posters in memory of Charlie Hebdo’s dead people, but after a couple of months everything was cleaned up. So what was the use of these policemen ? And did they react when the Bataclan shooting started ?
 
Updated-President al-Assad to French delegation: Terrorist attacks on Paris can’t be separated from those of Beirut and events in Syria
http://sana.sy/en/?p=61231

Damascus, SANA – President Bashar al-Assad received on Saturday a French delegation, including a number of parliamentarians, intellectuals, and media men, headed by member of the French National Assembly Thierry Mariani.

President al-Assad affirmed that the terrorist attacks which targeted Paris couldn’t be separated from those that took place in Beirut, and what has been happening in Syria since 5 years and in other regions, adding “terrorism is one field in the world and terrorist organizations don’t recognize borders.”

“Wrong polices adopted by western states, particularly France, towards events in the region, and its ignorance of the support of a number of its allies to terrorists are reasons behind the expansion of terrorism,” President al-Assad said, pointing out to the importance of adopting new polices and taking active procedures to stop support for terrorists logistically or politically in order to overcome terrorism.

For their part, members of the visiting delegation underlined that the terrorist attacks in France yesterday proved that there is no state which would be safe from terrorism, expressing belief in the importance of unifying efforts of regional and international sides to combat it and stop this phenomenon which poses threat to the peoples of the region and world.
 
angelburst29 said:
Updated-President al-Assad to French delegation: Terrorist attacks on Paris can’t be separated from those of Beirut and events in Syria
http://sana.sy/en/?p=61231

Damascus, SANA – President Bashar al-Assad received on Saturday a French delegation, including a number of parliamentarians, intellectuals, and media men, headed by member of the French National Assembly Thierry Mariani.

President al-Assad affirmed that the terrorist attacks which targeted Paris couldn’t be separated from those that took place in Beirut, and what has been happening in Syria since 5 years and in other regions, adding “terrorism is one field in the world and terrorist organizations don’t recognize borders.”

“Wrong polices adopted by western states, particularly France, towards events in the region, and its ignorance of the support of a number of its allies to terrorists are reasons behind the expansion of terrorism,” President al-Assad said, pointing out to the importance of adopting new polices and taking active procedures to stop support for terrorists logistically or politically in order to overcome terrorism.

For their part, members of the visiting delegation underlined that the terrorist attacks in France yesterday proved that there is no state which would be safe from terrorism, expressing belief in the importance of unifying efforts of regional and international sides to combat it and stop this phenomenon which poses threat to the peoples of the region and world.

Thanks for the link angelburst I like his response to the question below.

In his response to a question whether Syria is ready to fight with France against terrorism if they ask and help the French intelligence services, President Assad said “They don’t have to ask; they only have to be serious. This is where we are ready to fight terrorism with them.”

“We are ready to fight terrorism with whoever wants to really fight terrorism, and the French government is not serious yet,” he added.


In a message he was asked to send to the French President Francois Hollande, President al-Assad said “Work for the sake and the interest of your people. And the question that any Frenchman would ask today: did the French policy during the last five years do any good to the French people? Actually, no. So, the first thing I’ll ask is to work for the interest of the French people, and if he wants to do that, he has to change his policy.”

Asked about the condition for the Syrian government and the French government to work together, or for the Syrian intelligence services to work with the French intelligence services, President Assad said “You cannot talk about intelligence cooperation without political cooperation. You cannot talk about intelligence cooperation in order to fight terrorism while at the same time your policies, the policies of the same government, are going in the direction of supporting terrorism. That’s what I meant by being serious.”

the voice of reason huh, it's good to see at least there has been a french delegation, but I can't see much of this being presented in the west.
 
Last Night around 3am. there were news reports that the migrant camp (near chanel tunnel) had been set ablaze and the migrants had to be evacuated. It was being claimed it was a seperate disconnected incident and not to be attributed to revenge for the Paris attacks. Maybe I keep missing it but haven't seen any mention of it in the news today. Anyone else got info on/see this?
 
Just to share. One of my FB "friends", who is an Israeli and also Russian posted the following:

And I am supposed to live in that hypocritical world...
I don't recall seeing Israeli flag on your profile picture,dear world...

As a clarification, people started putting their pictures with French flag on their FB profiles.

But seriously. I don't want to write anything to him, because that would be completely pointless, but that's just a perfect example of the whining and self involved attitude Israelis have. Unfortunately, also many Russian Jews. In fact, often they are more Zionist than the locals. When everyone else, even Russians (actually, especially Russians, who came in great numbers to the French embassies and flooded them with flowers) express their condolences, a Russian Israeli can't do anything better beside posting such a status. Sigh...
 
Keit said:
Just to share. One of my FB "friends", who is an Israeli and also Russian posted the following:

And I am supposed to live in that hypocritical world...
I don't recall seeing Israeli flag on your profile picture,dear world...

As a clarification, people started putting their pictures with French flag on their FB profiles.

Well it is gone quite viral...

And Daniel Phoenix DeLafe posted that:


And here we go again with the "filter your FB photo" trend/psyop.... Terrorist attacks happen everyday at the hands of our own government, and most people never say a damn word, and certainly don't put a flag filter on their picture. Now the trend pops up and people just roll with it without questioning where such trends come from and why. Where's your Afghani flag? Your Iraqi flag? Your Palestinian flag? Every other flag for every region devastated by our war machine, which is partly what radicalized people in the first place? How about your Syrian flag for the refugee crisis we're responsible for, which may have directly resulted in this recent attack? Or are these lives less valuable because they come from predominantly Muslim countries? It's astounding how easily people can be manipulated to care about some lives more than others.
 

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