Paris shootout, explosions, casualties

Possible November 13th prediction made on September 26th 2014.
I can only find a google cache of the web page.

_http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MaO2hPPYoCkJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm+&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

Source code seems to confirm the web page was made on Sept 26 2014.

_http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MaO2hPPYoCkJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&hl=fr&gl=fr&strip=0&vwsrc=1

posted on voat _https://voat.co/v/news/comments/657278

Google translation.
the post from sep 2014 :

There will be a series of attacks from that famous date: yes. Attention to ALL transport such as plane, train, metro. And public places: ok: I have my sources

the post from Nov 7, 2015:

post before we bomb the kalash

the post from nov 5, 2015:

Hello everyone. by few days there will be attacks around paris. in different places. protect you. This is not a joke. there will probably died of enormously over 100, explosions, grenades and suicide bombers. crowd movements. we can already start the hashtag #prayforparis. courage.
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Chilling witness account of one of the shootings at a cafe. The article includes a video from a witness at Bataclan (follow link for that, half way down left):

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/14/paris-attack-witness-he-was-dressed-in-black-professional-shooting-and-killing

Paris attack witness: 'he was dressed in black, professional, shooting and killing'

Psychotherapist Mark Colclough, a 43-year-old British-Danish dual citizen, was with a colleague on Rue de la Fontaine when he witnessed a gunman attack a cafe

We were about 20 metres away from the cafe when we heard a firecracker and I looked around and I could see a man, maybe 185cm tall, and the position made it clear he was shooting.

He was standing in a shooting position. He had his right leg forward and he was standing with his left leg back. He was holding up to his left shoulder a long automatic machine gun – I saw it had a magazine beneath it.

Everything he was wearing was tight, either boots or shoes and the trousers were tight, the jumper he was wearing was tight, no zippers or collars. Everything was toned black.

If you think of what a combat soldier looks like, that is it – just without the webbing. Just a man in military uniform, black jumper, black trousers, black shoes or boots and a machine gun. Maybe a woolly hat.

He was left handed and shooting in bursts of three or four shots. It was fully intentional, professional bursts of three or four shots.

He killed three or four individuals who were sitting in the chairs in front of the cafe. We saw them get shot down. They fell off their chairs onto the ground.

He then swivelled and shot through a car drivers’ window.

We then saw him walk into the cafe. He swivelled right and then swivelled left and opened fire. That is when we dived for cover.

We heard a total of maybe 15 or 20 shots, then everything went quiet.

We went back after the shooting had stopped and all three people at the front were still lying there. We walked toward the white car that was shot. The driver has been helped outside the car by pedestrians and he had been propped up against a light pole and he was dying.

We left the scene and then we walked away about 150 metres and we saw all the police cars and ambulances and fire trucks coming in. Although our instincts were telling us we should go home to safety, we have a very strong sense of community and we thought we should go back.

To my surprise, we were taken back into the cafe by police. It was pretty horrific. We could see people, who were either wounded or severely wounded or dead. Maybe 10 or a dozen.

The paramedics had arrived and were tending to people. We saw dead bodies and saw people – I saw a guy who had been shot in the stomach. It was horrendous. There was blood everywhere. And the one thing that struck me was about the blood in the movies and the blood in real life. In real life it is thick.

We took a circular stairs upstairs to the first floor of the cafe and up there were more witnesses and wounded people.

The police asked if we had heard an escape vehicle or motorcycle. We had sought cover in a road which would have been a very good escape route for him. We were between some cars but saw nothing.

We were taken to the police station to give a witness statement. The gunman we saw has not been apprehended. They confirmed that on the way out. We asked if it was safe to walk home and they said definitely not.

There were witnesses everywhere. Lines and lines of them. We were sitting next to people who were in a different place. They were caught underneath dead bodies. They had to crawl out. There were people on top of them dead. It was quite horrific for everybody.

As told to David Munk
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Aragorn said:
The Saker is perhaps overreacting (again) with his latest, but it gives some food for thought:

_http://thesaker.is/a-warning-about-the-paris-terror-attacks/
A warning about the Paris terror attacks

Dear friends,

While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.

Coincidences?

You tell me.

The Saker
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Aragron,

I think Saker is onto something in seeing NATO as the next tool to be implemented. I think the PTB are trying to herd the EU countries toward going along with the continued agenda for the Middle East using false-flag attacks set up by whomever.

If that means a weaker EU then so what, they still have NATO. They only need an excuse to declare that an "act of war" has been committed as Hollande conveniently stated for them. Also, the claimed desire for a political solution by Kerry and Obama is just ruse to dilute the effectiveness of Russia's successes against ISIS and other terrorists in Syria. Hopefully, the false-peace maneuvers will not prevent Putin and the Russian military from wiping out ISIS.

This is just what I am thinking. I might be wrong but NATO was doing exercises this month such as this one:

_http://aco.nato.int/video-exercise-combined-resolve-v

They used NATO to destroy Iraq and Libbya. If it wasn't for Putin and the Russian attempt to help Syria they would just be "full steam ahead" I think.

And I think most of the forum reactions are very appropriate. When we see the terror of the events we should let others know how we "feel" about them. If we don't just crawl up in a ball with fear I think the expressed anger could be a positive emotion rather than negative.

I really liked what alana said here as others have expressed:

Alana said:
These things should NOT be happening! To anyone, anywhere! Not to people going out to eat on a Friday night in Paris, not to people catching the metro in London or Madrid, not to people in NYC, not in Mumbai, not in Syria, not in Gaza. Not to universities in the US. Not people getting on a plane to go or come back from their vacations. This is SO WRONG on so many levels. It's inexcusable, I am sick of it, the sheer shameless boldness of going around (or the psychos at the top, sending their robotic stooges around to do their job) killing all kinds of people randomly, just because a leader started to be more friendly with Russia, or because the nation is not following the official line. It is ridiculous, totally inhumane, utterly inexcusable.

I can't believe that in one lifetime I have seen so many senseless attacks on real people, I can't believe that it is becoming the "norm" and we are all getting used to seeing this kind of sh#$@%#$@% and we NEVER see the real culprits pay for it, they always get away. And they barely started showering us with the propaganda yet, all the BS they will be saying tomorrow, the aftermath, the closing down and fencing in and the scapegoating of other innocent people! I don't accept it, it is unacceptable to me, and I am so sorry for all the terror people are going through, all the pain for losing their loved ones, and I am SO pissed off at the perpetrators! Damn it, why don't the comets ever come when you want them to?!
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With all the turmoil we see it seems that we still hope for "comets" or whatever is needed to wake up people who seem fast asleep. I think maybe that is why the Cs point us to "cosmic forces". We feel so small in the scale of things that we sense the need for something "cosmic".
Session 4 July 2015
Q: (L) So, working on oneself as Gurdjieff formulated it, more or
less, is the means to become transmitters of cosmic forces - even if
you're not fully conscious that you're doing it?
A: Yes
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Feeling others pain and anger... :mad: :curse: :headbash: :deadhorse:
 
ShamanSam said:
Possible November 13th prediction made on September 26th 2014.
I can only find a google cache of the web page.
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That's interesting. If that's correct, and the initial prediction was made more than a year ago, then it means that whoever planned this was not reacting to recent events, but had a longer term view of things. Or they knew what was coming and that this would be the 'right time'. Also, he mentions November 13th, which means they have some sort of fixation with dates or numerology. Otherwise, they could have planned it for any day within, say, a couple of weeks, right? That would have probably made practicalities easier for them. Then the post of the 5th of Nov is very specific about the nature of the attacks. It even predicts accurately the ballpark figure of casualties! Which again speaks of the level of planning. Hmm...
 
Windmill knight said:
ShamanSam said:
Possible November 13th prediction made on September 26th 2014.
I can only find a google cache of the web page.
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That's interesting. If that's correct, and the initial prediction was made more than a year ago, then it means that whoever planned this was not reacting to recent events, but had a longer term view of things. Or they knew what was coming and that this would be the 'right time'. Also, he mentions November 13th, which means they have some sort of fixation with dates or numerology. Otherwise, they could have planned it for any day within, say, a couple of weeks, right? That would have probably made practicalities easier for them. Then the post of the 5th of Nov is very specific about the nature of the attacks. It even predicts accurately the ballpark figure of casualties! Which again speaks of the level of planning. Hmm...
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I couldn't find the post of the 5th Nov on google cache. Instead, there is an image of the alleged post, so that one could have been faked. That's the one mentioning more than 100 dead and suicide bombers. My guess is that one is fake, but the other two appear to be real.

There's also a link to a tweeter status from the webmasters of that forum, and the comments that follow, dated 13th and 14th Nov, that says that some images posted were fake, but that a certain thread was real and was deleted and referred to the authorities. See:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FJVCom%2Fstatus%2F665316544709201920
 
ShamanSam said:
Possible November 13th prediction made on September 26th 2014.
I can only find a google cache of the web page.

_http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MaO2hPPYoCkJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm+&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

Source code seems to confirm the web page was made on Sept 26 2014.

_http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MaO2hPPYoCkJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&hl=fr&gl=fr&strip=0&vwsrc=1

posted on voat _https://voat.co/v/news/comments/657278

Google translation.
the post from sep 2014 :

There will be a series of attacks from that famous date: yes. Attention to ALL transport such as plane, train, metro. And public places: ok: I have my sources

the post from Nov 7, 2015:

post before we bomb the kalash

the post from nov 5, 2015:

Hello everyone. by few days there will be attacks around paris. in different places. protect you. This is not a joke. there will probably died of enormously over 100, explosions, grenades and suicide bombers. crowd movements. we can already start the hashtag #prayforparis. courage.
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It's a bit to precise.

Its kinda interesting. How such predictions with such preciseness, when released for public consumption before the event, they never materialise. Yet, after any major invent, predictions come out the woodwork about said event.

Still, interesting... #preyforParis #prayforSyria #prayforGaza #prayfortheWorld
 
Windmill knight said:
I couldn't find the post of the 5th Nov on google cache. Instead, there is an image of the alleged post, so that one could have been faked. That's the one mentioning more than 100 dead and suicide bombers. My guess is that one is fake, but the other two appear to be real.
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I found the cached page right before the one with the post of the 7th of Nov, and the last post of that page was 26th of Sept 2014, so that means that the image of the post of the 5th was indeed fake. Here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-3-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm

By the way, the post of the 7th Nov is in the original French as:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:meGuKfKh8WgJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-4-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm

ShaankMaGanache
MP
07 novembre 2015 à 01:03:56

Post avant attentat a la kalash
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which I think is best translated as:

Post before the attack with kalash
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luke wilson said:
It's a bit to precise.

Its kinda interesting. How such predictions with such preciseness, when released for public consumption before the event, they never materialise. Yet, after any major invent, predictions come out the woodwork about said event.

Still, interesting... #preyforParis #prayforSyria #prayforGaza #prayfortheWorld
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The last one is a bit too precise; that's the one that appears to be fake. The other two appear in google cache so they seem to be real. The name of the thread is "13th of November", so it looks like the poster(s) did have advance knowledge, since more than a year ago.

ADDED: For the record, this is the original post of 26th Sept 2014 in French:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MaO2hPPYoCkJ:www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm+&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

Encore1Ban
MP
26 septembre 2014 à 18:19:58

Il y aura une série d'attentats à partir de cette fameuse date :oui: .
Attention à TOUT les transports comme l'avion , train , metro .
Et les places publiques :ok:

J'ai mes sources :oui: :hap:

Enjoy
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which translates as:

There will be a series of attacks starting from that famous date :oui: .
Attention to ALL transports such as airplane, train, metro .
And public places :ok:

I have my sources :oui: :hap:

Enjoy
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Notice "starting from".
 
From French Newspaper...

"This is a carnage of war, a massive attack. As luck that this morning, the SAMU (emergency service) of Paris was organized an exercise about a multi-site attacks, so we were prepared", said Patrick Pelloux (Accident and emergency doctor) this morning from emergencies where he was still here, after a night to treat victims of the deadly attacks of Friday night 13. "We are still trying to save the most possible victims. They have war wounds, gunshot wounds, (. ..) with Kalashnikovs. They were fired miserably. "
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_http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-faits-divers/attentats-de-paris-le-temoignage-de-patrick-pelloux
 
Speaking of predictions ....

The Paris Terrorist Attacks, “9/11 French-Style”, “Le 11 septembre à la française”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-paris-terrorist-attacks-911-french-style-le-11-septembre-a-la-francaise/5488896

None of the early news reports on November 13th, mentioned the fact that a large scale and well organized terrorist attack had been predicted. The title of the media report below is:

“Intelligence services fear a 9/11 French Style”

Yet in a bitter irony the October report stated that these forthcoming attacks were difficult to avoid: ”impossible a dejouer”, suggesting that French intelligence is inept and unable to prevent a forthcoming catastrophe.

What was the role of this media hype by Paris Match?

Media disinformation? Create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation?

France’s president Francois Hollande no doubt was aware of the October warnings. He had been briefed by his intelligence advisers.

Shortly before midnight local time on November 13, president François Hollande announced drastic police state measures against an alleged terrorist network operating nationwide.

It is highly unlikely, however, that Hollande took this decision spontaneously in the evening of November 13, on the spur of the moment in response to the attacks and prior to the holding of a cabinet meeting. The decision to enact a State of Emergency had no doubt been envisaged in advance of the attack in relation to a potential terrorist attack scenario.

As we recall, the last time a State of Emergency was enacted was in May 1961 in response to the Algiers putsch (Putsch d’Alger), a failed coup d’état to overthrow President Charles de Gaulle’s government.

Hollande’s midnight speech had the appearances of having been scripted –i.e with regard to the adoption of a State of Emergency, a far-reaching political decision: (Copy of speech).

France is under attack. we must defend ourselves.

The political discourse is in some regards reminiscent of the 9/11 attacks and the statements of George W. Bush et al.

The media immediately started comparing the November 13 attacks in Paris to 9/11, intimating that France was at war and that the alleged Islamic State attack was from abroad, i.e. the Middle East.

Police State Measures

President Hollande had ordered by decree without debate or consultation with France’s National Assembly the enactment of a State of Emergency throughout France, coupled with the closing of France’s borders allegedly to prevent terrorists from coming in, and from terror suspects from leaving the country.

The measures also included procedures which enable the police to conduct arbitrary arrests and house searches without a warrant within the Paris metropolitan area opening up the development of a potential hate campaign directed against France’s Muslim population.

These drastic police state measures (including the repeal of habeas corpus) ordered by president Hollande were decided upon prior and in the absence of a police report. Initial reports confirmed the involvement of half a dozen terrorists. There was no evidence of a nationwide terror network.

But as we mentioned above, Hollande had no doubt been briefed by French intelligence which had, according to reports, “predicted” the possibility of a 9/11 style attack. (October 2 media reports).

France had been heralded in Paris Match, October 2, 2015 as the Number One Target of the Islamic State, “a terrorist army with unlimited potential…” The threat and diverse forms it can take suggest that our counter-terrorist abilities are no longer effective as they used to be”

President Hollande assumed that jihadists were behind the attacks, but when he made his speech, there was no evidence from police sources to support his statements.

Moreover, with regard to the Bataclan Concert Hall where there were more than one thousand people at a Rock concert, the reports confirmed that there were four kamikaze terrorists, all of them were killed. As in the case of Charlie Hebdo and the Kosher Grocery Store terrorist attacks in January 2015, the terrorists were killed rather than arrested and indicted.

Was there an attempt on the part of the police to capture them alive?

Moreover, the media was held at bay, they were not allowed to report what was happening within the Concert Hall, they were prevented from talking to the witnesses underlying this tragic event.

Meanwhile a curfew was imposed.

President Obama made a declaration early in the evening (ET) largely sustaining the “war on terrorism” narrative: (Copy of speech).

Who is Behind the Terrorists?

What the French media in its coverage of these tragic events fails to mention is that both the US and France, not to mention Britain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel are covertly supporting various Al Qaeda affiliated terrorist formations in Syria and Iraq including al Nusrah and the Islamic State.

France is the victim of the Islamic State, but at the same time the US and its allies including France are “State sponsors” of the Islamic state which is an Al Qaeda affiliated entity. (Read more at site.)
 
This incident happened back in July and may be connected?

Explosives stolen during break-in at French army depot
http://news.videonews.us/explosives-stolen-during-break-in-at-french-army-depot-0727517.html

July 7, 2015 - Police suspect organized crime behind theft but have not ruled out terrorism

PARIS – Explosives, detonators and grenades were stolen from a military armory in the southern French town of Miramas, local media reported on Tuesday.

French radio station Europe 1 said a “pile” of plastic explosive, 180 detonators and around 40 grenades were stolen in the Sunday night break-in at the depot around 60 kilometers (37 miles) northwest of Marseilles.

The thieves – described by the station, citing investigators, as “military or former military men who knew the place” – cut through fences to get into the compound.

The investigation is focusing on organized crime members as being the perpetrators although terrorists have not been ruled out.

Miramas Mayor Frederic Vigouroux told Anadolu Agency: “We are shocked. This is a military site that is highly secure and well guarded by patrols. Military, police and gendarmerie are now all over the town in order to determine exactly what is missing, what happened and who’s responsible.”

The base is a supply depot for French military operations in Africa. A defense ministry spokesman declined to comment.
 
Aragorn said:
The Saker is perhaps overreacting (again) with his latest, but it gives some food for thought:

_http://thesaker.is/a-warning-about-the-paris-terror-attacks/
A warning about the Paris terror attacks

Dear friends,

While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.

Coincidences?

You tell me.

The Saker
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Not much insight there from this person. NATO cannot invade or bomb Syria, at least not as a way to attack Assad, since the Russians are there already. Wrong tree Mr. Saker.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Woodsman said:
Isn't *any* ISIS action essentially a false flag? -ISIS being a handled Western asset, and all.
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I don't think so. ISIS is a mercenary army with tens of thousands of people in it (or more). Not all of them are aware that they're working for CIA. So not only do you have the possibility of individuals or groups without the organization acting on their own, you also have the possibility that the mercenaries will turn on their masters. That's one of the risks of paying mercenaries. Of course, that doesn't absolve the U.S. from their responsibility, but I think it's overly simplistic to think of every Muslim fanatic as being 100% controlled by the West, like a robot army or something.

Not saying that is necessarily the case in this one yet. Too soon to tell.
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I think you're correct in this analysis, and I certainly wouldn't suggest that every Muslim fanatic is being 100% controlled by the West. I imagine that most of the young men involved are convinced of their own self-determination. I just think they're fooling themselves; being used.

With the level of materiel support from the West, the incidents of Western secret services working covertly to transport kids through borders and into the ISIS body, and the overall usefulness of ISIS in achieving Western geopolitical aims, I think it is prudent to regard ISIS as is indeed being a contraption deliberately nurtured and used by Western intelligence. A puppet army even if its component parts don't realize it.

I am disinclined to grant ISIS the respect of assuming they have self-autonomy or that they are a legitimate "Other" for the world to rally against. It's too easy to fall into the media narrative.

Al Qaeda was a similar beast, and believing they were not directed to act on 9/11 by Western and Israeli handlers in the black world plays into the make-believe narrative.
 
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