Philip Gardiner, Homosexuality and Alchemy Disinformation

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Laura said:
mopiet, you say you plan to write an article. That's really too bad since it is obvious that you cannot possibly know anything about the subject.
I think what Laura is trying to say can be summed up in Matthew 7:24-27. Yes, I know its the new testament, but oesoteric knowledge is a bit like the foundation that a person choses to build their house on. Best to have solid foundations rather than sand. :)
 
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Thank you, Laura, not only for your constant supply of knowledge, but you unending patience with these types of interesting agents that are continually being sent against you and the forum to spread their subjective world, spiritual and psychopathic views.

We seem to have a constant source of learning hear at the forum for all of us to study.

Ah, I guess I should also thank Mopiet, too, for the entertainment and lessons.
 
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Laura, I've read #63 & #64. You're a skilled and entertaining writer. Here is my reaction on some of the material you're presenting.

We are first of all struck by the terms “bitter combat of the two natures�� , in terms of Zarathustra’s claim that the battle between the forces of good and evil take place within the human being.
If one understand the alchemical phase of the Night of the Soul, one is not. What's more, true alchemy is monistic. Good and evil are just different sides of the coin, if they can be called sides at all. Spinoza cleared that one up: Good I call what is believed by me to be to my advantage, evil, what is believed by me to be to my disadvantage. (my summary from (if I'm not mistaking, chapter 4 of the Ethica). The Paris 4 quote him too.

Then, if you are puzzled by some parts in a myth, a myth is not an analogy.

"Behind the veil of all mystical allegories of ancient doctrines, behind the darkness and strange ordeals of initiations, under the seal of sacred writings, in the ruins of Nineveh, on the crumbling stones of old temples, and on the blackened visage of the Assyrian Sphinx, in the monstrous paintings which interpret to the faithful of India the inspired pages of the Vedas, in the cryptic emblems of our old books on alchemy, in the ceremonies practised at reception by all secret societies, there are found indications of a doctrine which is everywhere the same, and everywhere carefully concealed." [Eliphas Levi]
Indications.

What do the Argonauts have to do with Aeneas? What is the relation between the Fields of Laurentum and Colchos? What is the connection between the Golden Fleece and the Holy Grail?
This is taken from the Pietropoli-article on the Letters:

4.7

"There are two trees in ancient Greece that can be idenitified as Trees of Life who could produce the Gold of Immortality. The Golden apple-tree of the Hesperides, and the sacred tree over which is hung the Golden Fleece. Both trees are guarded by a dragon, meaning a serpent. In other words: the Kundalini-serpent."[Ming]




4.8


"Every dragon (serpent) spitting fire guarding a treasure is a metaphore for the Kundalini-snake guarding the Gate of Brahman, the gate to the central microcosmic nadi, or tube, in our microcosmic spine."[Ming]
The Grail, microcosmic stone, ignites that fire (see the Forbidden Letters).
What about the Temple of Solomon and the Labyrinth and the Ark of the Covenant and the Minotaur? And what is the “symbolical value�� of the famous myth?
The Ark is nothing more than a religious artefact which became famous only because the book in which it is decribed was accepted by christians and muslims too, meaning billions of people. A macrocosmic artefact and that means nothing can come from it. Alchemy is done microcosmically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant Very humiliating information for Ark-fans.

Laura said:
Now, allow me to give you the key to this whole mystery: the Egypt of Alchemy was not the Egypt we now know as Egypt. It was located in France. The evil labyrinth was located at Carnac, and the "Temple of Solomon" was Stonehenge.
Otto Reich said:
And much indeed can be said in support of the theory that the Temple of
Solomon was a jewish adaptation of the Work of the Sun of ancient Egypt. The
temple of Solomon being the microcmosmic temple of the Lightbody. (A real
Solomon probably never lived.)

Because jewish tradition tells us that temple is built by a stone, the
Shamir, that doesn't make noise. And that can be said of the Grail too of
course, composing that Ligtbody. A stone that is green according to jewish
tradition, like von Eschenbach's Grail-stone too (smaragdi).

But there is more. The Shamir is also called a worm. This is what the Jewish
Encyclopedia has on that worm.

"The most important of Solomon's acts was his building of the Temple, in
which he was assisted by angels and demons. Indeed, the edifice was
throughout miraculously constructed, the large, heavy stones rising to and
settling in their respective places of themselves (Ex. R. lii. 3; Cant. R.
l.c.).
The general opinion of the Rabbis is that Solomon hewed the stones by means
of the Shamir, a worm whose mere touch cleft rocks. According to Midrash
Tehillim (in Yalḳ., I Kings, 182), the shamir was brought from
paradise by the eagle; but most of the rabbis state that Solomon was
informed of the worm's haunts through the chief of the demons, who was
captured by Benaiah, Solomon's chief minister. The chief of the demons,
Ashmedai or Asmodeus, told Solomon that the shamir had been entrusted by the
prince of the sea to the mountain cock alone (the Hebrew equivalent in Lev.
xi. 19 and Deut. xiv. 18 is rendered by A. V. "lapwing" and by R.V.
"hoopoe"), and that the cock had sworn to guard it well.
Solomon's men searched for the nest of the bird and, having found it,
covered it with glass. The bird returned, and, seeing the entrance to its
nest closed by what it supposed to be a glass door, brought the shamir for
the purpose of breaking the glass. Just then a shout was raised; and the
bird, being frightened, dropped the shamir, which the men carried off to the
king (Giṭ. 68b)."[Jewish Encyclopedia]

One cannot help thinking here of the Phoenix. Because the Phoenix is reduced
to a worm in his ashes and grows back from that worm in some versions of the
Phoenix-myth.(see addendum I) A detail so tragically overlooked by Philip
Gardiner in his article The Serpent and the real Origins of Freemasonry.
 
Philip Gardiner: expert on hidden mysteries? PSY-OPS Agent

As for #64 - # 75 (with one exception/see my next post):

Voltaire said:
Ils ne se servent de la pensée que pour autoriser leurs injustices et n'emploient les paroles que pour déguiser leurs pensées.
P.S.

Your 'children' are not the brightest, Laura. I mean, who on earth would write...

Mopiet, are you planning on burning the world? As domivr mentioned, what brought you to that notion that the world is "not yet" burning? Have you open the window and look out to see what's going on in the world?
...on this little conversation...

Laura said:
In case you haven't noticed, the world is burning.
mopiet said:
Not yet, Laura, not yet:(from the Moshiu-article)"This needs some clarification in my opinion. Shakti (Kundalini latent) can rise in two ways: controlled, to start the Work of the Sun, and uncontrolled. If indeed happened what the Paris 4 say did happen in September 1986, then there will be a universal, uncontrolled Kundalini outburst in the near future. In the owners of a lightbody, that outburst will make the lightbody take over the flesh-body and make that ligthbody visible."
 
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Laura said:
mopiet, you say you plan to write an article. That's really too bad since it is obvious that you cannot possibly know anything about the subject.
Ruth said:
I think what Laura is trying to say can be summed up in Matthew 7:24-27. Yes, I know its the new testament, but oesoteric knowledge is a bit like the foundation that a person choses to build their house on.[bolds by mopiet] Best to have solid foundations rather than sand.
Exactly, Matthew 7:24-27:

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:


Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.


Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:


Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Here is Fox 16-25:

16.

"This is what the Kingdom of God is like: a man scatters seed on the ground. Night and day, whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not know how." [Gospel according to Mark]

17.

"[That Kingdom] grows quite the way Jesus tells us it grows; like a plant, in the body, with the full grown chakra's as the flowers in the end." [The Paris 4]

18.

"The Paris 4 confirm that that seed sprouts and grows by itself. They tell us their gay man had no active part in his Work of the Sun. It was all done by the inner alchemist." [JRA]

19.

"All by itself the soil produces grain. First the stalk, then the head, then the full kernel in the head. As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to it, because the harvest has come." [Mark]

20.

"But where does all this leave us, 'ordinary' people, not having been decapitated by Kali Ma? Are we the tares from Matthew 13 perhaps?" [JRA]

21.

"The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

The servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field [on September 4th 1986/Fox]? From whence then hath thy field tares? He said unto them, an enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." [Matthew]

22.

"Because every tree [i.e. spine and brain/Fox] that does not bear good fruit [i.e. chakra's/Fox] will be cut down and thrown into the fire." [Matthew]

23.

"Without a parable he didn't speak to them; but privately, to his own disciples, he explained all the things." [Matthew]

24.

"It is clear that the secrets of the Kingdom of Heaven are about alchemy. - But 'why secrets?'(Nietzsche)" [Wood]

25.

"For whosoever hath [i.e. lightbody] , to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables." [Matthew]
And no, no...

foundation that a person choses to build their house on
Because the alchemical process is utterly autonomous.

The original lie is that everybody is potentially a candidate for salvation. The second lie, that you can contribute to your salvation. And the third, that you can ruin it. Those three lies, highly respected around the globe, keep millions in business, and billions in darkness.[Mariette][Temming-article]
&

There is nothing any of us can do that would change the metaphysical destination of our world in general, or of any human being in particular. It is very important to realize that the alchemical process is utterly autonomous.[Mariette][Temming-article]
As the Paris 4 say:

(Our gay man likes to point out though that it is not a human who saves, but the alchemist, so beautifully called 'the only living god'. The 'god within'. Our gay man feels like an 'object' in all this. He points out that he is of the opinion that he had no active part in the past 20 years of his Work of the Sun. It was all done by the 'inner alchemist' he says. It is the alchemist that saves, not the vessel, meaning our gay man.)[Paris 4 Newsletter]
 
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Here is some more stuff on the labyrinth.
Taken from the Fox-article on the Letters.

11.

"Finding the Grail will then most likely be one of the most delicate things a man can do psychologically. And putting that Grail to work afterwards in the Night of the Soul perhaps one of the most unpleasant." [JRA]




[Theseus kills the Minotaur as Ariadne looks on ]

12.

"In the labyrinth of that Night our beast, the dark side of our Self, the Minotaur, is freed, fought and transmuted by the Alchemist into light bit by bit. Robert Flink, writing on the symbolical meaning of the Minotaur, reminds us that we still possess the cruelty of the animal in the field, but no longer its innoncence, and calls us devils therefore, and should definitely stick to his guns here." [JRA]

13.

"[Nazi Germany] was a carrion of evil, unimaginably worse than the normal devil. And since Germany is not on the moon, I have drawn my conclusions for the rest of mankind." [Jung]

14.

"Nonetheless, the real history of the world seems, in verba Jungi, to be 'the progressive incarnation of the deity'. When Jung spoke of this incarnation though, he was speaking of a gradual one, and of the masses, where he should have spoken of the existence of a sudden one in the individual, the alchemist." [JRA]
 
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Laura, on April 16 2007 you wrote (in another thread on the Letters):

'll give you a clue: the alchemical androgyne has nothing to do with sex or sexuality or biology.
This is from the Fox article.'

27.

"But what about Simon Peter saying in Thomas 114 'make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life.' - Then Jesus said: 'Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit, resembling you males.' - In other words: can't females be resurrected because the microcosmic female [Kundalini] wouldn't be tolerated in the macrocosmic female?" [The Paris 4]

28.

"The anima and animus exist precisely because of the original hermaphroditic nature of the Self, which, however, begins in the womb to develop a gender bias in favor of the sex of the child." [Anthony Stevens in 'On Jung']

29.

"The Self is rooted in biology." [Stevens in 'On Jung']

30.

"In their brain 'gay men are found to be more like women, and lesbians show similarities to men.' The brain of gay men and lesbian women 'seems to be cross-sex shifted in certain respects, more than those of heterosexuals.'" [de Renzi, Fenelon and de la Censerie quoting Wilson and Rachman from 'Born Gay']

31.

"What made our evolution possible and our survival secure was nature's discovery of sexual reproduction." [Stevens in 'On Jung']

32.

"There is no linear evolution; there is only a circumambulation of the Self." [Carl Jung in Modern man in search of a soul]

33.

"In the absence of an Y chromosome and androgens, the foetus continues its development along a pattern which eventually emerges as female. Thus it appears that when the conditions necessary for active masculine differentiation are lacking, development proceeds more passively along feminine lines. Here again the Taoist division is evident: females are, males have to be made." [Stevens in 'On Jung']

34.

"According to researchers the men on earth (the Y-chromosome is passed only from father to son) can trace their roots to a particular male who lived in Africa almost 60.000 years ago, but the female can go all the way back to 125.000 years."[Worldwatcher]

35.

"It is Simon Peter, of all the twelve disciples, who hates ''our (female) race", to quote 'Mary Magdalene'. Now, since no Peter and no Magdalene ever existed, it is meaningful in my opinion that exactly the disciple who represents the Stone of Transmutation, the agent to the Kundalini-fire, is misogynic. 'Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life,' [that Peter in the Gospel of Thomas]." [JRA]
[Italics by me]

What's your opinion on these quotes?
 
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Here is more on the androgyne from de la Censerie:

'In view of the recognized frequency of this phenomenon [of homosexuality], its interpretation as a pathological perversion is very dubious. The psychological findings show that it is rather a matter of incomplete detachment from the hermaphroditic archetype, coupled with a distinct resistance to identify with the role of a one-sided sexual being. Such a disposition should not be adjudged negative in all circumstances, in so far as it preserves the archetype of the Original Man, which a one-sided sexual being has, up to a point, lost.' [Carl Jung "Concerning the Archetypes and the Anima Concept," CW 9i, par. 146./italics by me] [see footnote 1]
And here are the first 4 footnotes in the RFC-article.

Footnotes


1] 'It was this man who said to our gay man that 'only certain homosexuals posess the necessary balance of the microcosmic male and female to safely conduct the kundalini-fire'. We failed to point that out. If one just reads the Letters and part 2 as published, one might think that we had some kind of 'divine revelation' on this.'[The Paris 4]


2] 'All possible connections between deification through alchemy and homosexuality will have been effectively removed from art and literature in the past 5000 years. The best I could do was Springmeyer and his 'Sodomy has it's own secret chamber on the caballistic Tree of Life'.' [Pierre de Beaumont]


3] 'We hear of Christ's androgyny in Catholic mysticism.' [Carl Jung in Archetypes and the collective Unconscious]


4] 'The theory would be then that macrocosmic androgyny is needed to host microcosmic androgyny created through the alchemical wedding. That only the macrocosmic hermaphrodite, and we are talking about a psychological hermaphrodite here, can support the microcosmic hermaphrodite: Shiva and Shakti united. (The terms androgynous and hermaphroditic are interchangeable here.)' [Duquesnoy/presented with kind permission/partially edited and italics by RFC]
 
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Oooh. Nine pages. Let's just throw in some useful information while we're at it.

Lobaczewsky said:
If we analyze the development of excessively egotistical personalities, we often find some non-pathological causes, such as having been raised in a constricted and overly routine environment or by persons less intelligent than the child. However, the main reason for the development of an overly egotistical personality in a normal person is contamination, through psychological induction, by excessively egotistical or hysterical persons who, themselves, developed this characteristic under the influence of various pathological causes. Most of the above-described genetic deviations cause the development of pathologically egotistical personalities, among other things. Many people with various hereditary deviations and acquired defects develop pathological egotism. For such people, forcing others in their environment, whole social groups, and, if possible, entire nations, to feel and think like themselves becomes an internal necessity, a ruling concept. A game that a normal person would not take seriously can become a lifelong goal for them, the object of effort, sacrifices, and cunning psychological strategy.

Pathological egotism derives from repressing from one’s field of consciousness any objectionable, self-critical associations referring to one’s own nature or normality. Dramatic question such as “who is abnormal here, me or this world of people who feel and think differently?� are answered in the world’s disfavor. Such egotism is always linked to a dissimulative attitude, with a Cleckley mask over some pathological quality being hidden from consciousness, both one’s own and that of other people. The greatest intensity of such egotism can be found in the prefrontal characteropathy...

...The pathological character of [people suffering from damage to the frontal areas of the cerebral cortex], generally containing a component of hysteria, develops through the years. The non-damaged psychological functions become overdeveloped to compensate, which means that instinctive and affective reactions predominate. Relatively vital people become belligerent, risk-happy, and brutal in both word and deed.

Persons with an innate talent for intuiting psychological situations tend to take advantage of this gift in an egotistical and ruthless fashion. In the thought process of such people, a short cut way develops which bypasses the handicapped function [of critical thought], thus leading from associations directly to words, deeds, and decisions which are not subject to any dissuasion. Such individuals interpret their talent for intuiting situations and making split-second oversimplified decisions as a sign of their superiority compared to normal people, who need to think for long time, experiencing self-doubt and conflicting motivations. The fate of such creatures does not deserve to be pondered long.
 
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mudrabbit said:
mopiet,
What is your agenda here?
mopiet said:
Dear members of SOTT,

I came over from Thot and World Mysteries. A very interesting article is published at WM on the alchemy hidden in Genesis. I am planning an article myself on the subject, so I would very much like to hear your opinions on the article.

hxxp://www.world-mysteries.com/PhilipGardiner/forbidden_letters_21.htm
Did I, or did I not say, that this is the funniest Forum I know? And did I, or did I not complain about people refusing to read? :rolleyes:
 
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mopiet said:
mudrabbit said:
mopiet,
What is your agenda here?
mopiet said:
Dear members of SOTT,

I came over from Thot and World Mysteries. A very interesting article is published at WM on the alchemy hidden in Genesis. I am planning an article myself on the subject, so I would very much like to hear your opinions on the article.

hxxp://www.world-mysteries.com/PhilipGardiner/forbidden_letters_21.htm
Did I, or did I not say, that this is the funniest Forum I know? And did I, or did I not complain about people refusing to read? :rolleyes:
you know what's funny? you complain that people don't read, but at the same time you are refusing to read some very good question posted by some forum members, you seem to avoid them...hmmm, I wonder why?

it's true when they say "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.''
 
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mudrabbit said:
mopiet,
What is your agenda here?
Mopiet, you did not exactly answer mudrabbit's question. Yes, you came here asking us about the article. However, what mudrabbit is partly asking is your action towards other members here. What is it that you hope to achieve here? Your actions are screaming at us like crazy, but your silent words didn't match them.

mopiet said:
Did I, or did I not say, that this is the funniest Forum I know? And did I, or did I not complain about people refusing to read? :rolleyes:
You complain quite alot here. And, you didn't answer why do you think this forum is the funniest. Oh, by the way, you're focusing so much on this topic, all your posts are here to a topic created by you. I see a full cup here.

Adam said:
it's true when they say "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.''
Sometimes it is best to get in the car and drive away while leaving an ignorant man to argue with himself.
 
Philip Gardiner: expert on hidden mysteries? PSY-OPS Agent

You can't "defeat" a man who lives only "for the game". Just don't play the game. And then it becomes very funny and obvious show :)
It is as if mopiet doesn't perceive us (forum participants) as actually "here". He exercises selective "hearing"/reading and quotes/answers only those specific sentences he sees as fit. If it is intentional - it is quite transparent, and if it is not intentional - it is still sad...and still a good lesson.
 
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He's only going to jab where he percieves he can get a reaction....possibly a negative one. Quite frankly, he seems full of himself, and loaded down with hubris.

Peg
 
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mopiet said:
Did I, or did I not say, that this is the funniest Forum I know? And did I, or did I not complain about people refusing to read? :rolleyes:
It's even funnier when you write stuff like:

P.S.

Your 'children' are not the brightest, Laura. I mean, who on earth would write...

Mopiet, are you planning on burning the world? As domivr mentioned, what brought you to that notion that the world is "not yet" burning? Have you open the window and look out to see what's going on in the world?
Since not a single one of my children has participated on this thread, I fear I am at a loss to explain your lack of awareness.

But then, that is typical of all the rest of your research. You begin with false premises and everything goes downhill from there.

Eliphas Levi, for example.

He'a another "failed magician" who wrote a lot of drivel that really makes the dark side salivate. So far, pretty much all of the stuff you have quoted and cited is, in fact, of the "dark side." If you are the kind of person attracted to this Gardiner/Paris 4 stuff, that is just another nail in the coffin.

But, like I said, let's keep the thread going. Controversy always attracts attention and readers and god knows how many pages we can get on google that will announce that Philip Gardiner is Psy-ops!
 
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