Regulattor said:
Have you tried ebay?
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Have you tried ebay?
paralleloscope
The Living Force
I'm not sure if the company Sebbe posted here do Croatia.Regulattor said:
Otherwise there are posting services in the UK probably also US to which you sign up for free and get to use their address, and they'll send it to you at reasonable prices. I don't have a link though. You could also search for the word autoclave as it's probably more known as this in Europe.
meta-agnostic
Jedi Master
I apologize for not catching up on the entire thread first. I've been meaning to do it but it seems I'm of more than one mind on the subject.
It didn't look like it was mentioned so I wanted to point out a site I found called shtfschool.com. The author survived the Balkan wars of the early 90's and details his experience living in primitive and hostile conditions. I've gotten some good recommendations both from his writings and from the comments, like kellykettle.com / kellykettleusa.com, a good portable stove / water boiler that can use brush and twigs for fuel. The site is about as 3D-oriented as you can get, and there is of course a fair amount of gun talk, but at least the author does his best to keep politics and religion out of the discussion. Not that they shouldn't be discussed, but the majority of "prepper" sites seem to be run / overrun by right-wing, bible-thumping nutjobs.
It didn't look like it was mentioned so I wanted to point out a site I found called shtfschool.com. The author survived the Balkan wars of the early 90's and details his experience living in primitive and hostile conditions. I've gotten some good recommendations both from his writings and from the comments, like kellykettle.com / kellykettleusa.com, a good portable stove / water boiler that can use brush and twigs for fuel. The site is about as 3D-oriented as you can get, and there is of course a fair amount of gun talk, but at least the author does his best to keep politics and religion out of the discussion. Not that they shouldn't be discussed, but the majority of "prepper" sites seem to be run / overrun by right-wing, bible-thumping nutjobs.
jasstnhawk
Jedi
The following is a list of 23 books (most in PDF format) about ‘Canning, Preserving, Pickling and Dehydrating Food’ (As far as I know, these books are not in copyright.)
1. “Home and Farm Food Preservation” (1918): _http://ia700301.us.archive.org/1/items/homefarmfoodpres00cruerich/homefarmfoodpres00cruerich.pdf
2. “Canning and Preserving” (1887): _http://ia700308.us.archive.org/24/items/canningpreservin00rorerich/canningpreservin00rorerich.pdf
3. “Dehydrating Foods Fruits, Vegetables, Fish and Meats” (1920): _http://ia700307.us.archive.org/13/items/dehydratingfoods1920andr/dehydratingfoods1920andr.pdf
4. “Everywoman’s Canning Book: The ABC of Safe Home Canning and Preserving” (1918): _http://ia600504.us.archive.org/21/items/everywomanscanni00hughrich/everywomanscanni00hughrich.pdf
5. “Preservation of Food: Home Canning, Preserving, Jelly-Making, Pickling, Drying” (1910): _http://ia700208.us.archive.org/9/items/preservationoffo00hayerich/preservationoffo00hayerich.pdf
6. “Successful Canning and Preserving; Practical Handbook for Schools, Clubs and Home Use” (1917): _http://www.icsarchive.org/icsarchive-org/paperback/successful_canning_and_preserving_1917.pdf and _http://archive.org/details/successfulcanni00powegoog
7. “Canning, Preserving and Pickling” (1914): _http://www.armageddononline.org/uploads/Canning__preserving_and_pickling.pdf and _http://archive.org/details/canningpreservi00neilgoog
8. “Recipes for the Preserving of Fruit, Vegetables and Meat” (1908): _http://ia700308.us.archive.org/9/items/recipesforpreser00wagnrich/recipesforpreser00wagnrich.pdf
9. “Home Canning by the Cold Pack Method” (1917): _http://ia700202.us.archive.org/20/items/homecanningbycol00smitrich/homecanningbycol00smitrich.pdf
10. “Balanced Meals with Recipes: Food Values, Drying and Cold Packing Menus” (1917): _http://ia700400.us.archive.org/22/items/balancedmealswit00lake/balancedmealswit00lake.pdf
11. “The Hygienic Cook-Book Containing Recipes for Making Bread, Pies, Puddings, Mashes, and Soups, With Directions for Cooking Vegetables, Canning Fruit, Etc.” (1881): _http://ia600202.us.archive.org/14/items/hygieniccookbook00joneiala/hygieniccookbook00joneiala.pdf
12. “War Food Practical and Economical Methods of Keeping Vegetables, Fruits and Meats” (1917): _http://vintagecookbooks.healthyeatingandlifestyle.org/books/1917warfood.html and _http://archive.org/details/warfoodpractica00handgoog
13. “A Treatise on Food Conservation and the Art of Canning” (1917): _http://ia700500.us.archive.org/9/items/treatiseonfoodco00snyd/treatiseonfoodco00snyd.pdf
14. “Methods of Canning Fruits and Vegetables by Hot Air and Steam” (1890): _http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/digital_books/pdf/TX603.B58_1890.pdf
15. “Uncle Sam’s Advise to Housewives covers canning, drying, storage” (1917): _http://ia700306.us.archive.org/30/items/unclesamsadvice00admigoog/unclesamsadvice00admigoog.pdf
16. “Food Drying Progress and Importance” (1919): _http://ia700307.us.archive.org/4/items/fooddryingprogr00commgoog/fooddryingprogr00commgoog.pdf
17. “Preserving and Canning: A Book for the Home Economist” (1914):
_http://ia600209.us.archive.org/20/items/preservingcannin00ries/preservingcannin00ries.pdf
18. “Preserving and pickling: Two Hundred Recipes for Preserves, Jellies, Jams, Marmalades, Pickles, Relishes, and Other Good Things” (1918): _http://books.google.com/books?id=Sj8EAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=subject:%22Canning+and+preserving%22&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=bvWiS6GpNoa-zATz_7jlCA&cd=60#v=onepage&q&f=false
19. “The Book for all Households or the Art of Preserving Animal and Vegetable Substances for Many Years” (1920): _http://ia600302.us.archive.org/25/items/bookforallhouseh00appeuoft/bookforallhouseh00appeuoft.pdf
20. “The Whole Art of Curing, Pickling and Smoking Meat and Fish” (1847): _http://ia700506.us.archive.org/14/items/wholeartofcuring00robi/wholeartofcuring00robi.pdf
21. “Lowney’s Cook Book” (1907): _http://ia600309.us.archive.org/5/items/lowneyscookbooki00howa/lowneyscookbooki00howa.pdf
22. “The Complete Housekeeper” (1917): _http://ia600409.us.archive.org/4/items/cu31924000624092/cu31924000624092.pdf
23. “How to Save Money on Food: Home Canning” (1917): _http://books.google.com/books/about/How_to_save_money_on_food.html?id=yFIKAAAAIAAJ
1. “Home and Farm Food Preservation” (1918): _http://ia700301.us.archive.org/1/items/homefarmfoodpres00cruerich/homefarmfoodpres00cruerich.pdf
2. “Canning and Preserving” (1887): _http://ia700308.us.archive.org/24/items/canningpreservin00rorerich/canningpreservin00rorerich.pdf
3. “Dehydrating Foods Fruits, Vegetables, Fish and Meats” (1920): _http://ia700307.us.archive.org/13/items/dehydratingfoods1920andr/dehydratingfoods1920andr.pdf
4. “Everywoman’s Canning Book: The ABC of Safe Home Canning and Preserving” (1918): _http://ia600504.us.archive.org/21/items/everywomanscanni00hughrich/everywomanscanni00hughrich.pdf
5. “Preservation of Food: Home Canning, Preserving, Jelly-Making, Pickling, Drying” (1910): _http://ia700208.us.archive.org/9/items/preservationoffo00hayerich/preservationoffo00hayerich.pdf
6. “Successful Canning and Preserving; Practical Handbook for Schools, Clubs and Home Use” (1917): _http://www.icsarchive.org/icsarchive-org/paperback/successful_canning_and_preserving_1917.pdf and _http://archive.org/details/successfulcanni00powegoog
7. “Canning, Preserving and Pickling” (1914): _http://www.armageddononline.org/uploads/Canning__preserving_and_pickling.pdf and _http://archive.org/details/canningpreservi00neilgoog
8. “Recipes for the Preserving of Fruit, Vegetables and Meat” (1908): _http://ia700308.us.archive.org/9/items/recipesforpreser00wagnrich/recipesforpreser00wagnrich.pdf
9. “Home Canning by the Cold Pack Method” (1917): _http://ia700202.us.archive.org/20/items/homecanningbycol00smitrich/homecanningbycol00smitrich.pdf
10. “Balanced Meals with Recipes: Food Values, Drying and Cold Packing Menus” (1917): _http://ia700400.us.archive.org/22/items/balancedmealswit00lake/balancedmealswit00lake.pdf
11. “The Hygienic Cook-Book Containing Recipes for Making Bread, Pies, Puddings, Mashes, and Soups, With Directions for Cooking Vegetables, Canning Fruit, Etc.” (1881): _http://ia600202.us.archive.org/14/items/hygieniccookbook00joneiala/hygieniccookbook00joneiala.pdf
12. “War Food Practical and Economical Methods of Keeping Vegetables, Fruits and Meats” (1917): _http://vintagecookbooks.healthyeatingandlifestyle.org/books/1917warfood.html and _http://archive.org/details/warfoodpractica00handgoog
13. “A Treatise on Food Conservation and the Art of Canning” (1917): _http://ia700500.us.archive.org/9/items/treatiseonfoodco00snyd/treatiseonfoodco00snyd.pdf
14. “Methods of Canning Fruits and Vegetables by Hot Air and Steam” (1890): _http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/digital_books/pdf/TX603.B58_1890.pdf
15. “Uncle Sam’s Advise to Housewives covers canning, drying, storage” (1917): _http://ia700306.us.archive.org/30/items/unclesamsadvice00admigoog/unclesamsadvice00admigoog.pdf
16. “Food Drying Progress and Importance” (1919): _http://ia700307.us.archive.org/4/items/fooddryingprogr00commgoog/fooddryingprogr00commgoog.pdf
17. “Preserving and Canning: A Book for the Home Economist” (1914):
_http://ia600209.us.archive.org/20/items/preservingcannin00ries/preservingcannin00ries.pdf
18. “Preserving and pickling: Two Hundred Recipes for Preserves, Jellies, Jams, Marmalades, Pickles, Relishes, and Other Good Things” (1918): _http://books.google.com/books?id=Sj8EAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=subject:%22Canning+and+preserving%22&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=bvWiS6GpNoa-zATz_7jlCA&cd=60#v=onepage&q&f=false
19. “The Book for all Households or the Art of Preserving Animal and Vegetable Substances for Many Years” (1920): _http://ia600302.us.archive.org/25/items/bookforallhouseh00appeuoft/bookforallhouseh00appeuoft.pdf
20. “The Whole Art of Curing, Pickling and Smoking Meat and Fish” (1847): _http://ia700506.us.archive.org/14/items/wholeartofcuring00robi/wholeartofcuring00robi.pdf
21. “Lowney’s Cook Book” (1907): _http://ia600309.us.archive.org/5/items/lowneyscookbooki00howa/lowneyscookbooki00howa.pdf
22. “The Complete Housekeeper” (1917): _http://ia600409.us.archive.org/4/items/cu31924000624092/cu31924000624092.pdf
23. “How to Save Money on Food: Home Canning” (1917): _http://books.google.com/books/about/How_to_save_money_on_food.html?id=yFIKAAAAIAAJ
meta-agnostic
Jedi Master
During a recent discussion the subject of bicycle generators came up. I thought it would be useful to pass along this link:
http://www.pedalpowergenerator.com/
The components are pretty basic but they need to be assembled skillfully in order to run effectively and efficiently. There's a list of components on the site and links to purchase them but I'm sure most of them could be obtained from found items with the proper knowledge and skill. I got as far as getting the motor, the belt and the blocking diode and found an old bike on the street, and have batteries I can use as well as inverters. The charge controller seems pretty key if you want to avoid burning out your battery and/or inverter and not have to pedal at an exact constant speed. I'm hoping to find one that meets the specs but is less pricey than the one listed. Hopefully I'll get one of these built if/when I have more room to work on it.
http://www.pedalpowergenerator.com/
The components are pretty basic but they need to be assembled skillfully in order to run effectively and efficiently. There's a list of components on the site and links to purchase them but I'm sure most of them could be obtained from found items with the proper knowledge and skill. I got as far as getting the motor, the belt and the blocking diode and found an old bike on the street, and have batteries I can use as well as inverters. The charge controller seems pretty key if you want to avoid burning out your battery and/or inverter and not have to pedal at an exact constant speed. I'm hoping to find one that meets the specs but is less pricey than the one listed. Hopefully I'll get one of these built if/when I have more room to work on it.
We discussed what to put in an emergency bag when disaster strikes.
In my bag I have got (see below):
toilet paper
tinned sardines and mackerel (my youngest son said that tuna fish was no good, little fat in it?)
tube tent
first aid kit
cotton wool
sewing kit
compass
pocket knife
fire thingy
flashlight/beacon with a magnetic base all in one and a thingy with which one can shatter glass
some bin liners
all weather emergency bag (reflects body heat back to the body); the same goes for
survival poncho and
rescue cover
band aid
plastic cups
water bag (10 liter)
DMSO
Naproxen and other painkillers
earplugs
katadyn micropure forte, disinfects and preserves drinking water
gauze compresses
elastic/cure tape (acupressure taping)
tinder sticks
tea tree oil
Also an extra set of clothing is a good idea, in case you get wet.
Don't forget your snowboots, your hat, scarf, gloves... :)
In my bag I have got (see below):
toilet paper
tinned sardines and mackerel (my youngest son said that tuna fish was no good, little fat in it?)
tube tent
first aid kit
cotton wool
sewing kit
compass
pocket knife
fire thingy
flashlight/beacon with a magnetic base all in one and a thingy with which one can shatter glass
some bin liners
all weather emergency bag (reflects body heat back to the body); the same goes for
survival poncho and
rescue cover
band aid
plastic cups
water bag (10 liter)
DMSO
Naproxen and other painkillers
earplugs
katadyn micropure forte, disinfects and preserves drinking water
gauze compresses
elastic/cure tape (acupressure taping)
tinder sticks
tea tree oil
Also an extra set of clothing is a good idea, in case you get wet.
Don't forget your snowboots, your hat, scarf, gloves... :)
Bo said:Here are the pictures:
The things that I have are:
- Waterproof matches.
- Waterproof bag.
- Lots of cotton balls.
- Flashlight & Alarm in 1.
- Several knives.
- Nylon cords.
- First aid kit.
- Firestarter (like a fire-plow).
- Tobacco
Just enough so that it all fits in one medium bag which I can carry on my back. Because I assume that when it comes to physical survival, there is a lot of travelling from place to place.
Bo said:
and the other one is called handgel aloe vera. So it cleans your hands without the use of water.
The waterpump one is called Katadyn Mybottle.
Foxx
The Living Force
Mariama said:
Is that like an "emergency blanket"?
_http://www.amazon.com/ER-Emergency-Ready-Thermal-Blankets/dp/B008DEYGJQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1372691608&sr=8-7
Those things are so cheap and small that I think they're a good addition to have in various places. There are also ones that are a little sturdier:
_http://www.amazon.com/Grabber-Outdoors-Original-Weather-Blanket/dp/B002CQUA3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372691651&sr=8-1
I've had some of both--I need to check again and see if I still have them somewhere and possibly pick up more.
Foxx said:
It is not a blanket, but like a sleeping bag:
http://www.noodzaken.nl/coghlans-emergency-isolatiereddingszak-p-415.html
Foxx said:
It is also a good idea to have these sturdier blankets. Thanks, Foxx. :)
ignis.intimus
Jedi Council Member
I would highly recommend a portable saw like the Sven-Saw. There are two sizes with the smallest having a 15" blade. It folds down to slightly longer than that, which will fit in most backpacks. Lighter and safer than a hatchet. We have a couple of them, and use them every time we go camping and they work like a champ.
_http://www.svensaw.com/
_http://www.svensaw.com/
lilies
The Living Force
After you cook a soup in your pressure cooker and a lot of bones are left and you want to make a bone broth immediately afterward:
Put the silicon rubber into cold water and let it soak for 20-30 minutes until your soup cools down so you can take out the meat & separate from the bones and do preparations for the broth.
This is for instances, when you make bone broth in your pressure cooker and notice that after a time the silicon rubber is pushed out at the sides somewhat [getting become used so a new rubber purchase is in order], venting steam out of the sides of the cooker not through the valve, stop and:
next time you cook or before you continue put the silicon rubber into cold water and let it soak for 20-30 minutes.
Put the rubber back in, turn on pressure cooking and it will never vent steam during that session again.
Put the silicon rubber into cold water and let it soak for 20-30 minutes until your soup cools down so you can take out the meat & separate from the bones and do preparations for the broth.
This is for instances, when you make bone broth in your pressure cooker and notice that after a time the silicon rubber is pushed out at the sides somewhat [getting become used so a new rubber purchase is in order], venting steam out of the sides of the cooker not through the valve, stop and:
next time you cook or before you continue put the silicon rubber into cold water and let it soak for 20-30 minutes.
Put the rubber back in, turn on pressure cooking and it will never vent steam during that session again.
Leonarda
Jedi
For the women, in the emergency bag I would suggest including the "mooncup". I searched the forum and I didn't find any reference to it, It has been one of my best 2013 discoveries :D
This is the what they say in their web (I copied the information because it is clearer this way than trying to explain it with my own words) : <<The Mooncup - known in the USA as MCUK - is the original silicone menstrual cup designed by women to be a convenient, safe and eco-friendly alternative to tampons and sanitary pads. Made in the UK by a multi-award winning ethical business, the Mooncup menstrual cup offers an end to the waste, discomfort and expense of disposable sanitary protection>>
I don't know if there are other companies that sell it cheaper, In my case, I paid around 20 euros (on sale) but it is a good investment. If you search the name in google images it explains how it is used.
This is the what they say in their web (I copied the information because it is clearer this way than trying to explain it with my own words) : <<The Mooncup - known in the USA as MCUK - is the original silicone menstrual cup designed by women to be a convenient, safe and eco-friendly alternative to tampons and sanitary pads. Made in the UK by a multi-award winning ethical business, the Mooncup menstrual cup offers an end to the waste, discomfort and expense of disposable sanitary protection>>
I don't know if there are other companies that sell it cheaper, In my case, I paid around 20 euros (on sale) but it is a good investment. If you search the name in google images it explains how it is used.
paralleloscope
The Living Force
The free online course 'Disaster Preparedness' has started (now at 3rd week out of 6). From watching the first weeks material (1 hours of video) it looks like it will be worthwhile to follow. The general stance is not so much about accessorizing but knowledge about how disaster situations are mitigated and organized. From having done other courses on Coursera the material may just be locked away after the 6 weeks are up, and is un-linkable outside the courseware, so if you are interested you should have a look within the next two weeks.
_https://www.coursera.org/course/disasterprep
_https://www.coursera.org/course/disasterprep
shijing
The Living Force
parallel said:
Thanks parallel -- some friends of mine and I are currently enrolled in this, and I agree with what you say above. It's focused more on short-term rather than long-term survival, and the understanding of the government that's presented is naive in some ways, but there's lots of good material that can be extrapolated to a variety of situations. As long as one applies a bit of critical thinking to some of the materials, there's much that's useful (the main project is a 'disaster preparedness plan' for yourself and your family, which is probably a good idea for everyone to think about).
A
Alchemie
Guest
I'm interested for the smoking and canning of food.
I'm only recently no longer a vegetarian and have a question.
What experience have you in shopping for meat? And what body parts of the animal can you recommend?
I know that the liver, bones and bacon are very nutritious (and other offal, eyes, brain, etc. but that's too disgusting).
Is it realistic (for a Family of 4) to create every half year a food stock? Organizationally, in any case, it is convenient, because the small (organic) farms in our region only a few times a year have slaughtering.
I look forward to your opinions.
I do not want keep animals for slaughter (I had read in the forum, that some hold rabbits). We have no room for it, and I would not want that in general (because I have a psychic harm by stock-breeding in my childhood (the death screams of the pigs and the fidgeting of rabbits at skinning to experience is very traumatizing as toddler. That was the rough time of the subsistence economy in Kazakhstan. I am also very sensitive. I already feel in passing, if a farm produces much suffering /makes self slaughtering or give this work to a butcher)....
I'm only recently no longer a vegetarian and have a question.
What experience have you in shopping for meat? And what body parts of the animal can you recommend?
I know that the liver, bones and bacon are very nutritious (and other offal, eyes, brain, etc. but that's too disgusting).
Is it realistic (for a Family of 4) to create every half year a food stock? Organizationally, in any case, it is convenient, because the small (organic) farms in our region only a few times a year have slaughtering.
I look forward to your opinions.
I do not want keep animals for slaughter (I had read in the forum, that some hold rabbits). We have no room for it, and I would not want that in general (because I have a psychic harm by stock-breeding in my childhood (the death screams of the pigs and the fidgeting of rabbits at skinning to experience is very traumatizing as toddler. That was the rough time of the subsistence economy in Kazakhstan. I am also very sensitive. I already feel in passing, if a farm produces much suffering /makes self slaughtering or give this work to a butcher)....
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