Psychomantium Mirrors - Past, Present, Future?

[Palinurus]

Wow, ignis.intimus - that was quick! And you are right. Thanks for spotting that.

 

[Gonzo]

Regarding the C's statement on the mirror facing the window as a contributor to the haunting (or echo), I have come across this a few times in relation to psychics trying to help people with hauntings. As well, mirrors facing mirrors seem to also create a similar potential.

I was trying to figure out why a window would make a difference, since most radiation (from what little I know) can penetrate the walls of an average house or make their way through all sorts of openings and bounce around inside the house. So, what was unique about a window? Then I thought about symbology and the term, window to the soul. The word "window" itself carries a strong connotation.

So, could it be that a window, through the use of symbology, becomes a portal and a mirror a beacon?

Not sure if this is just noise, but I thought I'd put it out there.

Gonzo

 

[Meager1]

So a first conclusion may be that any experiment with any "mirrors" involved is beneficial, but it must be shared, or it will remain unknowable as no one can be conscious by being alone, with a brain that remains filtered no matter what you know or you're able to see. The difficult part is always that the single subject must be aware that what he's experimenting could be a lie, and never identify with it in any way.

I don`t see how the mirror experiments might equal a "first conclusion" or even be a good idea for most people. If you have used the link and read any of the book "Cosmic Consciousness" devoted to using these mirrors for experiments, one of the first things you notice is that by far, the majority of people involved experienced tremendous, overwhelming and irrational fear.

Many could not remain in the vicinity of the mirrors, they were to frightened.
Which is just something, to keep in mind.

And one can imagine that the "first conclusion" of these terrified people might have been..that not experimenting with mirrors.. was by far the better choice.
Speaking of the book "Cosmic Consciousness" it is interesting that on the title page the S after con, resembles a serpent and separates the word, into con ciousness in an odd way as if some unknown "con" was involved in the "ciousness.
We may have been bio-engineered to miss a whole lot more then even supected so far.

Fasinating thread!

 

[Rabelais]

I was wondering whether the following excerpt of a session could be relevant here (bold, mine):


This excerpt was found here: http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters3.htm
about halfway through that page. There was no sessiondate provided for the excerpt.

It is from session date April 11, 1998

Edit : I didn't read far enough through the thread before answering... again. Sigh.

One note though. I have a very precision ground and polished 15 inch concave mirror in the telescope. It is available to the chateau crew if needed. It is easy to remove.

Also, in reading through this thread and noting the several references to spinning. It might be time to review Schauberger's work with centripetal/implosive forces. I think Ark has my old copy of Living Energies. It can be read at scribd.com

Edit #2 : In looking over the link to the book, Cosmic consciousness of humanity : problems of new cosmogony that Psyche posted, I noticed this chapter heading on page 53:

PALEOPSYCHOLOGY AS A WAY TO
UNDERSTANDING OF THE COSMOPLANETARY
ESSENSE OF MAN.

Paleopsychology sounds right up our alley.

 

[Joe]

No Guardian, I don`t.

That's interesting, 'cause I have several friends who (individually) dabble in altering their states of consciousness using a variety of tools, and they all have two things in common. None of them really understand/accept the extreme danger they're putting themselves in, and they all LOVE "Dancing with the Stars," "American Idol," etc., shows like that.

The common denominator between those two interests sounds like a penchant for dissociation. Dissociation ain't bad, it has it's time and place and can be very useful for getting some real "down time", but it should really be done consciously, in the sense that it should be entered into deliberately and care should be taken about what we are exposing ourselves to while in that state. Dancing with the stars probably isn't going to do anything for anyone's spiritual development! The same goes for combining dissociative practices with potential openings to "other realities" and the possible denizens therein. It's like going on holiday and hanging a big "gone for two weeks" sign on your home.

 

[Laura]

If you consider the information in "The Adaptive Unconscious" thread, and realize what is going on under the surface of your own conscious mind, you'll realize that getting THAT house in perfect order is the first thing you need to do before you start opening other doors of consciousness.

 

[Guardian]

The common denominator between those two interests sounds like a penchant for dissociation. Dissociation ain't bad, it has it's time and place and can be very useful for getting some real "down time", but it should really be done consciously, in the sense that it should be entered into deliberately and care should be taken about what we are exposing ourselves to while in that state.

Exactly! To be fair, I think there's much worse zone out TV than "Dances with the Stars"
I've also noticed that some Elders seem especially fond of it too? I watched it one time, and all I felt was sorry for the poor people...so I don't understand what folks see in it, but there's got to be something I'm missing?

I prefer science fiction/fantasy stuff where the good guys eventually defeat the bad guys (preferable with fascinating "technology" that hasn't been invented yet) and folks live happily ever after...so there's little doubt where my imagination is going.

As you say though, it needs to be a conscious choice, as in "Oh gawd, it's been a horrendous day, I think I'll just veg and have some mental bubble gum"

Every single thing I've ever encountered in 3D could be used for something helpful, or something harmful....it's the person who chooses, not the item. OSIT

 

[Guardian]

If you consider the information in "The Adaptive Unconscious" thread, and realize what is going on under the surface of your own conscious mind, you'll realize that getting THAT house in perfect order is the first thing you need to do before you start opening other doors of consciousness.

Interesting. This is also the core belief of every single indigenous culture I've ever met. I think the shift to external/material focus started with monotheism...which you go into in the Wave :)

 

[Cyre2067]

If you consider the information in "The Adaptive Unconscious" thread, and realize what is going on under the surface of your own conscious mind, you'll realize that getting THAT house in perfect order is the first thing you need to do before you start opening other doors of consciousness.

Indeed, I picked up the book so it's next in line after I finish Primal Body Primal Mind. I also picked up Hostage to the Devil and The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts for more reading along these lines. Knowledge Protects, and Imma load up on it.

The common denominator between those two interests sounds like a penchant for dissociation. Dissociation ain't bad, it has it's time and place and can be very useful for getting some real "down time", but it should really be done consciously, in the sense that it should be entered into deliberately and care should be taken about what we are exposing ourselves to while in that state.

That's kinda how I feel about it, I can't be 'on' all the time, at least not yet, and even if I could I don't know if I'd want to. I really enjoy some good ole fantasy, the Eragon Quadrilogy did wonders for me, and now I'm watching Smallville. I'm also super wary of movies, I won't watch anything that classifies as 'torture porn' and I really don't understand why folks watch that garbage at all.

 

[Meager1]

Every single thing I've ever encountered in 3D could be used for something helpful, or something harmful....it's the person who chooses, not the item. OSIT

Just some thoughts on that. We know that a rock might contain old writings, carvings, paintings, or whatever, and that it might also be used in building, or crushed for paving stones, at the same time rock is neutral and doesn`t choose how it`s used.

Mirrors as objects would be the same, and it wouldn`t be the mirror, but what/who is acting on it or using it for a particular purpose.

We have probably all heard that certain objects especially rocks, are able to and have recorded particular segments of the environment and this has even been interpreted as a haunting in some cases. Though it isn`t a haunting, only a recording of some intense event that transpired in the immediate vicinity, of which a portion of the event was permanently encoded or imprinted in the stone. Again the stone is probably neutral and didn`t choose to record anything.

People have been known to briefly receive some of these recording while around these objects or stones, whatever, and have informed others of these "haunted" places, though I`m not sure that a person was consciously intending to receive a portion of the recording in all cases, or even expecting that they would. But it has happened.
On the other hand, there might be unlimited possibilities, not all good ones.

And it may be possible that "others" of higher learning or of a superior technology would know how to utilize these things to their own benefit, and extreme caution is a necessity.

And this will probably only serve to make me seem even nuttier..but there have been times while observing certain rocks or even other things, that it has occurred to me that we are living in an artificial environment here.
That all and everything we experience as "natural" is in fact an artificial construct, of which we are not aware and do not even suspect. That this entire planet and everything on it, is a kind of "artificial construction" and we have either forgotten, or never knew that, in fact it seems to have been purposely construction so that we couldn`t know, and that somehow every "material thing" was made to act as a barrier to the truth about what`s really there. At the same time there is something tangible "something" that penetrates and saturates all of this material stuff, with (information) as Laura described, but we are for the most part unaware of it because "stuff" obscures it.
And maybe that`s what "creation" really means after all. An artificial construct that has the appearance of something else altogether. And if something such as this is even a remote possibility then it would only be through our minds, and developing and understanding ourselves in way possible, that we might someday become aware, or be able to understand, or even to see that something ain`t quite what it seems here.

 

[Ollie]

The common denominator between those two interests sounds like a penchant for dissociation. Dissociation ain't bad, it has it's time and place and can be very useful for getting some real "down time", but it should really be done consciously, in the sense that it should be entered into deliberately and care should be taken about what we are exposing ourselves to while in that state.

Exactly! To be fair, I think there's much worse zone out TV than "Dances with the Stars"
I've also noticed that some Elders seem especially fond of it too? I watched it one time, and all I felt was sorry for the poor people...so I don't understand what folks see in it, but there's got to be something I'm missing?

I prefer science fiction/fantasy stuff where the good guys eventually defeat the bad guys (preferable with fascinating "technology" that hasn't been invented yet) and folks live happily ever after...so there's little doubt where my imagination is going.

As you say though, it needs to be a conscious choice, as in "Oh gawd, it's been a horrendous day, I think I'll just veg and have some mental bubble gum"

Every single thing I've ever encountered in 3D could be used for something helpful, or something harmful....it's the person who chooses, not the item. OSIT

As is always the case, it's down to individual choice, and that may include overcoming internal buffers brought about by peer pressure, social conditioning and indoctrination to make that conscious choice.

 

[anart]

The common denominator between those two interests sounds like a penchant for dissociation. Dissociation ain't bad, it has it's time and place and can be very useful for getting some real "down time", but it should really be done consciously, in the sense that it should be entered into deliberately and care should be taken about what we are exposing ourselves to while in that state.

Exactly! To be fair, I think there's much worse zone out TV than "Dances with the Stars"
I've also noticed that some Elders seem especially fond of it too? I watched it one time, and all I felt was sorry for the poor people...so I don't understand what folks see in it, but there's got to be something I'm missing?

I've never seen it, so I'm not sure what you might be missing. I avoid TV as much as humanly possible, though I do watch mysteries occasionally as down time. Dissociation can be a very useful thing, as has been said - as always the Law of Three applies.

 

[mada85]

I also picked up Hostage to the Devil

I've had a copy of Hostage to the Devil on my bookshelf for a couple of years now (at least). Five cases are described in the book. I read the first and haven't been able to read another. It's pretty harrowing stuff. It's probably irrational of me, but I had a weird feeling when reading that one case that I was opening myself to something not very nice. Fascinating though, in spite of the horror.

 

[lizzietreid]

All this discussion has me thinking about Plato and his theory that we are observing reality through a mirror. Perhaps this is a way to turn a mirror on a mirror and see the real image?

 

[Guardian]

I've never seen it, so I'm not sure what you might be missing.

The only clue I've gotten is how they tend to reminisce about how they used to dance when they were young, before I was born. I'm guessing there could be nostalgia involved, but I could be totally off?