Re the video posted underneath, any idea why that "Foreign Agent" is cherry-picking details and says at the beginning that Vovk "moved to France" but omits the fact that it was after several years of her living in Lebanon? There is a few more similar omissions in that video that may, or may not, indicate a specific bias.
Re the video posted underneath, any idea why that "Foreign Agent" is cherry-picking details and says at the beginning that Vovk "moved to France" but omits the fact that it was after several years of her living in Lebanon? There is a few more similar omissions in that video that may, or may not, indicate a specific bias.
The person who runs that channel is a Brit living in Russia (St Petersburg). He's quite pro Russian and usually covers news articles on the ongoing situation. I listen to him from time to time as he essentially provides a summary of the key articles in any given day. The main bias I picked up in this specific video is he was reluctant to conclude Vovk was guilty, merely a suspect. I do think the evidence is damning though. He also appeared not to like Lavrov essentially calling for her to be punished in a similar fashion to what she did i.e. killed. His bias is essentially one of restraint.
Kiev has killed an official in Russian-held Zaporozhye Region by planting a bomb in his car, local officials claim
www.rt.com
Zaporozhye official killed in car bombing
The head of the Russian-controlled Ukrainian village of Mikhailovka died after his vehicle exploded
The top official in the military-civilian administration of Russian-held Mikhailovka, Ivan Sushko, was killed after his car was blown up by Ukrainian saboteurs, Zaporozhye Region Council member Vladimir Rogov announced on Wednesday.
“An explosive device was planted under the seat of the car of the head of the settlement. As a result of the explosion, Ivan Sushko was wounded and taken to the hospital in critical condition, where he soon died,” Rogov said on Telegram.
Just one day earlier, officials in Kherson Region also reported a blast that was targeted at one of the members of the local administration, according to regional head Kirill Stremousov.
He said the perpetrators also used an improvised explosive device and their intended target was Igor Telegin, the deputy head of the department of internal policy of the administration of Kherson Region, which is currently controlled by Russian forces. Stremousov stated that Telegin was not injured as a result of the explosion, which he blamed on local saboteurs.
Кадры с моментом подрыва автомобиля с главой администрации поселка городского типа Михайловка Запорожской области Ивана Сушко. О гибели Сушко в результате подрыва автомобиля стало известно ранее в этот день. В момент трагедии в салоне с ним находилась шестилетняя приемная дочь. «Иван Сушко...
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transl:
The footage of the car bombing of Ivan Sushko, head of the administration of Mikhailovka city-type settlement in Zaporizhzhia region.
The death of Sushko as a result of the car bombing became known earlier that day. At the time of the tragedy, his six-year-old adopted daughter was in the car with him.
"Ivan Sushko was taking her to kindergarten. Fortunately, the child survived and was not critically injured," said Vladimir Rogov, a member of the council of the regional administration.
Chairman of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation Alexander Bastrykin instructed to initiate a criminal case on the fact of the incident
I was just thinking back on the Mossad hit in Dubai of a Palastinian leader. Off the top of my head I think they used around 6-8 people. That many JUST TO KILL ONE PERSON. Looking at the videos of the hit, one would think that 3 could easily do it yet more were used.
So I find it very hard to believe that this one women was "the team" that did this, even if someone else gave her the bomb. Someone with her profile entering Russia I would think would result in close surveillance of what she was up to, regardless if she was with a child or not. Russia's facial recognition system of people entering Russia surely was good enough to ID her for who she was.
The choice of where this was done might be because way out in the outskirts of the city there are fewer human as well as electronic eyes to capture who was around the place of the hit. The hit wasn't done in the garage, after which the body could have been stuffed into a trunk and driven off into the country side, giving plenty of time to leave the country. Nope, the desired effect was to make it a spectacular fire show. The given explanation seems to me to be way too simple, unless it is presented this way to cover up a operational failure on the part of Russian intelligence services.
The person who runs that channel is a Brit living in Russia (St Petersburg). He's quite pro Russian and usually covers news articles on the ongoing situation. I listen to him from time to time as he essentially provides a summary of the key articles in any given day. The main bias I picked up in this specific video is he was reluctant to conclude Vovk was guilty, merely a suspect. I do think the evidence is damning though. He also appeared not to like Lavrov essentially calling for her to be punished in a similar fashion to what she did i.e. killed. His bias is essentially one of restraint.
Thanks, that's more or less what I know. On the same ground you mentioned, Mike iEarlGray aka Foreign Agent seems at the very least a bit too soft. I understand the need to counter any propaganda and stay as objective as possible, but then along with his objections to call Vovk the murderer he should have mentioned that it's also possible that SBU have some supporting evidence that cannot be made public, at least not yet. IF they have it, they wouldn't want to compromise their sources. But Mike leaves it out and fails to be unbiased. Or so it seems to me.
For me this whole explanation as given by Russia does not compute.
When Vovkova entered Russia I would think that red lights must have gone off and the System had to have an eye on her if she is who they say she is. Now the bomb goes off and Vovkova speeds off to Estonia from Bolshiye Vyazyomy.
Shortest route to Estonia is around 750 km. Lets give this super spy the benefit of doubt and say she covered this distance in 10 hrs. Now I have no idea how Russian Intelligence work but I would think that is a fair amount of time to connect Vovkova (Ukrainian) to the bombing, placing her on a list of people of interest. After all she lived in the same building. Appearing at the border check point one would think from hundred of years of experience, the System would check for "6-Degrees of Separation" between the address of person exiting Russia and the victim of a recent high profile bombing. If she was Azov related makes things even more bizarre that she simply drives out. How all this plays out in reality we can only imagine but for me it is all a bit too simple. Smoke and Mirrors at its Best.
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The mainstream media is very enthusiastic about showing how the streets of Kiev are turning into a Russian tank museum...
Message to the younger generations: "To win a war, take a picture of it and claim victory!"
A few days ago, we discussed the Russian decision to post three MIGs in Kaliningrad. Already on August 20, there was an article:
Poland is ready to call up article 5, which as I understand would mean war with Russia - over three planes with missiles near their border.
Poland intends to adequately respond to the deployment of hypersonic missiles by Russia in the Kaliningrad region, up to the implementation of Article 5. of the NATO Charter on Collective Defense, said Polish State Secretary of Defense Wojciech Skurkiewicz, PAP reports.
Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that three MiG-31 aircraft equipped with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles were deployed to the Kaliningrad region as part of strategic deterrence measures.
“Our actions and consultations with our allies and NATO headquarters are and will be adequate to the threats and actions taken by the Russian Federation,” Skurkevich said.
He recalled Art. 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which stipulates that an attack on one member state of the alliance is tantamount to an attack on all countries of the alliance, and called this provision “realizable”. According to Skurkiewicz, cooperation within NATO is 'the basis for ensuring the security of Poland', and all existing guarantees and obligations 'were and remain in force.'
For me this whole explanation as given by Russia does not compute.
When Vovkova entered Russia I would think that red lights must have gone off and the System had to have an eye on her if she is who they say she is. Now the bomb goes off and Vovkova speeds off to Estonia from Bolshiye Vyazyomy.
Shortest route to Estonia is around 750 km. Lets give this super spy the benefit of doubt and say she covered this distance in 10 hrs. Now I have no idea how Russian Intelligence work but I would think that is a fair amount of time to connect Vovkova (Ukrainian) to the bombing, placing her on a list of people of interest. After all she lived in the same building. Appearing at the border check point one would think from hundred of years of experience, the System would check for "6-Degrees of Separation" between the address of person exiting Russia and the victim of a recent high profile bombing. If she was Azov related makes things even more bizarre that she simply drives out. How all this plays out in reality we can only imagine but for me it is all a bit too simple. Smoke and Mirrors at its Best.
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My only explanation is security isn't as tight as you'd think. Russia is a big country and they can't be checking every single person entering the country to the extent we think. Also I doubt movement within the country can be monitored to that degree. Don't forget Ukraine has launched attacks within Russia via helicopters that managed to get in and out under cover of darkness. Security isn't as airtight as you'd think - that's my explanation.
Today I read in the Polish news: "On Tuesday, air quality monitoring stations in the eastern part of Poland reported high concentrations of PM10 particulate matter - a result of the war in Ukraine."
In addition, I received a text message from the RCB ( Government Security Center) this morning to refrain from outdoor activities due to particulate matter.
My only explanation is security isn't as tight as you'd think. Russia is a big country and they can't be checking every single person entering the country to the extent we think. Also I doubt movement within the country can be monitored to that degree. Don't forget Ukraine has launched attacks within Russia via helicopters that managed to get in and out under cover of darkness. Security isn't as airtight as you'd think - that's my explanation.
I agree. On top of it she was, from what PoB mentioned earlier, well trained in infiltration and likely didn't go under her own name.
Natalia Vovk has been a staff member of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' Main Intelligence Directorate since 2010, with the rank of major and military specialty of infiltration and data collection.
The Azov operative is just a patsy. The FSB will never reveal in public the intel it has amassed on those that issued the orders, and how they will be dealt with.
One Ilya Ponomaryov, an anti-Kremlin minor character granted Ukrainian citizenship, boasted he was in contact with the outfit that prepared the hit on the Dugin family. No one took him seriously.
What is manifestly serious, however, is how oligarchy-connected organized crime factions in Russia would have a motive to eliminate Alexander Dugin, the Christian Orthodox nationalist philosopher who, according to them, may have influenced the Kremlin's pivot to Asia (he didn't).
These organized crime factions blamed Dugin for a concerted Kremlin offensive against the disproportional power of Jewish oligarchs in Russia. So these actors would have both the motive and the local know-how to mount such a coup.
If that's the case, it potentially spells out a Mossad-linked operation - especially given the serious schism in Moscow's recent relations with Tel Aviv. What's certain is that the FSB will keep their cards very close to their chest - and retribution will be swift, precise and invisible.
The inevitable transfer of power away from the west is leading to a surge in state-sponsored terrorism, but this will do little to reverse the trend Six months after the start of the Special Military Operation (SMO) by Russia in Ukraine, the...
Scott Ritter interview of Leonid Petrovich Reshetnikov.
"On episode 1 of the show we are joined by Leonid Petrovich Reshetnikov, a former Soviet and Russian secret service agent, Lieutenant-General of Foreign Intelligence Service, director of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies (2009 - 2017). Candidate of Historical Sciences."
No idea why it says "not available" just click where it says watch on YouTube, and it plays.
Today I read in the Polish news: "On Tuesday, air quality monitoring stations in the eastern part of Poland reported high concentrations of PM10 particulate matter - a result of the war in Ukraine."
The source of the yellow dust is revealed by satellite images from recent days. It appears to have arrived from the steppes of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, as well as the Caspian Sea region, where massive dust blizzards were raging, previously also arriving from the Arabian Peninsula.
Understandable, but you can share your thoughts and views without personal digs. You're not dealing with trolls here after all. We are here to learn - including from each other.
Unfortunately, I don't exactly understand the highlighted word. My machine translates this with some kind of "archaeological" meaning. I suspect that the meaning was how to cling, touch, bother. If this is the case and someone perceived it this way, then I inform you that I did not have such a goal at all and am ready to apologize a thousand times to good people. I'll try to briefly explain what I wanted.
It is precisely for these purposes, when I see that "murder by Russian agents" is put in the first place among possible versions, I try to convey that the time of ice axes, umbrella injections, explosions with chocolates and banal shootings in entrances (all these are real events) in Russia is gone. Our authorities are trying very hard to be "white and fluffy" and not just, but whiter than all whites and fluffier than all fluffy ones, and this is in some way sometimes not clear to a part of our society. In the West, they hang literally "all dogs" on Russia and this is apparently postponed.
At the same time, as an opportunity, I do not deny at all and do not want to say in any way that Russia "does not kill." Probably still "kills". You mentioned Chechens. Of these, I can mention one. This is Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev and how he was killed in Qatar in 2004. In this story, literally everything (the scale of the personality, possible motives, organization and conduct of the event, the subsequent fate of the performers) suggests that powerful forces akin to the state participated.
In other words, all I want is for the person considering to transfer the possibility of "murder by Russian agents" from the first place in the "rating" of possibilities to one of the last places for the purposes of objectivity.
While such as Koch or Lebedev are alive (and the same notorious Skripal lived quietly for how many years until he got into the "batch") this unfortunate fool Vovk has nothing to fear from "Russian murderers". Russia, if it catches her, will put her in prison (possibly forever), but no more.
If at the entrance to the country she was not identified as an object of interest (most likely it happened), then with all her movements inside, there was no documented connection with the house where Dugina lived, at exit. That's for sure.
Renting an apartment in Moscow is not a problem at all. The problem is to rent an apartment in a particular house and in a limited time. You need to devote some time to this with an unobvious result. In my opinion, "assistants" worked here.
It is established that she used 3 state license plates on one car. I wonder HOW she changed them. A woman poking around with a number would have attracted attention, but apparently they thought about it too. She rented a garage (maybe the numbers changed there).
Each state number requires a set of documents, at least at the entrance and exit from the country. This means that the Ukrainian number with which she left entered the country in the same car (changed VIN or exactly the same car). It's all possible, but obviously someone else did it.
The distance of 750 km I could definitely drive faster than in 10 hours, while not violating traffic rules. She obviously had no such problem. I don't think she was worried about traffic camera fines. There were few live traffic police officers on our roads, and besides, if "they" helped her, then the "assistants" could drive the same way in front of her and warn her about the location of the patrols. This is what car thieves do, driving stolen cars to other regions.
It turns out that all this well "does compute", on one condition - there were assistants.
Я, к сожалению, точно не понимаю выделенное слово. Моя машина переводит это с каким то "археологическим" смыслом. Подозреваю, что смысл был как цеплять, касаться. Если это так и кто то воспринял это таким образом, то я сообщаю, что совсем не имел такой цели и готов тысячу раз извиниться перед хорошими людьми. Попробую вкратце объяснить чего я хотел.
Вот именно в этих целях, когда я вижу, что "убийство российскими агентами" ставится на первое место среди возможных версий, я пытаюсь донести, что время ледорубов, уколов зонтиком, подрывов шоколадными конфетами и банальных расстрелов в подъездах (все это реальные события) в России ушло. Наши власти очень стараются быть "белыми и пушистыми" и не просто, а белее всех белых и пушистее всех пушистых и это некоторым образом иногда не понятно части нашего общества. На западе же на Россию вешают буквально "всех собак"и это видимо откладывается. При этом, как возможность, я совсем не отрицаю и никак не хочу заявлять, что Россия "не убивает". Наверно все же "убивает". Вы упоминали чеченцев. Из этих я могу отметить одного. Это Зелимхан Яндарбиев и то, каким образом он был убит в Катаре в 2004. В этой истории буквально все (масштаб личности, возможные мотивы, организация и проведение мероприятия, последующая судьба исполнителей) говорит о том, что участвовали могущественные силы, сродни государству. Другими словами все, что я хочу это то, чтобы рассматривающий перенес возможность "убийства российскими агентами" с первого места в "рейтинге" возможностей на какое-нибудь из последних мест в целях объективности. Пока живы такие как Кох или Лебедев (да и тот же пресловутый Скрипаль сколько лет спокойно прожил, пока не попал в "замес") этой несчастной дуре Вовк нечего опасаться "российских убийц". Россия, если поймает, то посадит ее в тюрьму (возможно навсегда) но не более того.
Что следует из наших реалий. Если на въезде в страну она не была идентифицирована, как объект представляющий интерес (скорее всего так и случилось), то при всех ее передвижениях внутри на выезде документально не было связи с домом, где жила Дугина. Это точно. Снять квартиру в Москве вообще не проблема. Проблема снять квартиру в конкретном доме и в ограниченный срок. Этому нужно посвятить определенное время с неочевидным результатом. На мой взгляд здесь работали "помощники". Установлено, что она использовала 3 гос номера на одном автомобиле. Мне интересно КАК она их меняла. Женщина ковыряющаяся с номером привлекла бы внимание, но видимо и об этом подумали. Она арендовала гараж (возможно номера менялись там). К каждому гос номеру нужен комплект документов, как минимум на въезде и на выезде из страны. Это значит, что украинский номер, с которым она выезжала, въехал в страну на таком же автомобиле( изменен VIN или именно тот же автомобиль). Это все возможно, но очевидно это делал кто то другой. Расстояние в 750 км я точно мог бы проехать быстрее, чем за 10 часов, при этом не нарушая правил дорожного движения. У нее такой проблемы очевидно не было. Вряд ли она беспокоилась о штрафах с дорожных камер. Живых сотрудников дорожной полиции у нас на дорогах стало мало и к тому же, если ей помогали, то перед ней "помощники" могли проехать той же дорогой и предупредить ее о местоположении патрулей. Так делают автоугонщики, перегоняющие украденные авто в другие регионы.
Получается, что все это вполне может быть, при одном условии- были помощники.
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