Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

youlik said:
Another idiot voluntarily put a noose around his neck. What you can't do to become Putin's "personal enemy" in Western eyes. But it's not the time to joke, it's the time to cry - this character recently sat in our State Duma. How many of such of them are there still leave?!
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Ilyusha? Another comedian full of himself and a wannabe oligarch. A few months ago he posted on his FB (transl.):

I, Ilya Vladimirovich Ponomarev, offer $1 million to anyone who will deliver to international justice Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, [...], alive or dead, wanted for war crimes against citizens of Ukraine, as well as for usurpation of power and repeated gross violations of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

I urge fellow entrepreneurs from the Russian Federation and Ukraine to join my initiative and increase the bounty on the head of the above mentioned Putin V.V.

I guarantee the safety and, if necessary, the anonymity of citizens who have fulfilled this request.
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Just curious, whose $$ he offers?
You may be right youlik, that otherwise useless idiot can become useful for Mordor after a dose of novichok.
 
youlik said:
"Bashirov and Petrov" never sleep and are always ready to eliminate all enemies of the Motherland at the first "green whistle", having bathed them in "novichok".

Seriously speaking, this fool should be afraid of her employers. For them, she is the biggest threat and a convenient excuse to once again "run into" Russia if something happens to her. Your statements prove once again that public opinion in the West is ready for this.

The situation, as I see it from here, is somewhat different. All the most high-profile incidents (Litvinenko, Berezovsky, Skripali) happened to the characters when they showed a desire to "wave their tail" in the other direction, and on the other hand, a very large number of characters "quite worthy" of a similar fate from Russia live quite safely in the United States and Britain. They live and do not cough, but only until their death (some mysterious one) turns out to be beneficial to their new owners. The story of Khodorkovsky is quite indicative. He was put in jail and he served quite a long time. YUKOS was taken away, legally or not, in this case it does not matter. Made of a billionaire.... just a millionaire, and in the very first interview after his release, he said in plain text: thank you to Putin for not touching the family. The question is, what could not be robbed "like a stick"? Don't make me laugh - if they wanted to, they would robbed him and he even still owed as much as they took away.

I think the example of the Chechens is completely incorrect, because these people are not some kind of ideological fighters, but ordinary bandits who incredibly got into political spheres, but did not become more decent people from this. These have been bickering themselves, mainly because of the money.

I'm very sorry that I'm getting into an argument again, but the "ears" of Western propaganda "sticking out" of your statements "cut me in the armpits."

"Баширов и Петров" никогда не спят и всегда готовы по первому "зеленому свистку" ликвидировать всех врагов Родины, искупав их в "новичке".
Если серьезно говорить, то эта дура должна бояться своих нанимателей. Для них она самая большая угроза и удобный повод в очередной раз "наехать" на Россию, если с ней что то случится. Ваши утверждения лишний раз доказывают, что общественное мнение на западе готово именно к этому.
Ситуация, какой она мне видится отсюда, несколько другая. Все самые громкие инциденты (Литвиненко, Березовский, Скрипали) произошли с персонажами, когда они проявляли желание "махнуть хвостом" в другую сторону и с другой стороны в США и в Британии вполне благополучно живет очень большое количество персонажей, "вполне достойных" подобной участи со стороны России. Живут и не кашляют, но только до тех пор пока их смерть (какая-нибудь загадочная) не окажется выгодной их новым хозяевам. Довольно показательна история с Ходорковским. Его посадили и он отсидел довольно долго. Отняли ЮКОС, законно или нет, в данном случае не имеет значения. Сделали из миллиардера.... просто миллионером и в самом первом интервью после освобождения он прямым текстом сказал: спасибо Путину, что не тронул семью. Вопрос, что не смогли обобрать "как липку"? Не смешите- захотели бы, обобрали бы и еще остался бы должен столько же сколько отняли.
Пример с чеченцами я считаю совсем некорректным, потому что эти люди не какие то идейные борцы, а обычные бандиты, невероятным образом попавшие в политические сферы, но не ставшие от этого более приличными людьми. Эти перегрызлись сами, в основном из за денег.
Я очень извиняюсь, что опять вступаю в спор, но "уши" западной пропаганды, "торчащие" из ваших утверждений мне "режут в подмышках".
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I don't think one can readily dismiss the fact that this woman is now a target of Russian intelligence/security services and she can easily be killed by them. I don't think that's a western propaganda?

The fact that she can also be killed by Western security services doesn't mean she can't be killed by Russian security services! Just saying - no one knows what will happen to her for assassinating a political/cultural figure but these are just possibilities.
 
'A deceiver is surrounded by deceivers.'

Zelensky ‘troubled’ as he questions inner circle’s loyalties – Erdogan​

22 Aug, 2022
The Ukrainian leader is surrounded by “people who deceive him a lot,” he allegedly told the Turkish president

Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky is concerned he is being taken advantage of by someone close to him, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said, citing their conversation during the meeting in Lviv on Thursday.

Asked by a farmer about the Ukrainian leader’s “situation” on Monday during a visit to local vineyards, Erdogan claimed Zelensky was “very worried. There are people around him who deceive him a lot.”

Erdogan had not mentioned this confession during earlier public statements about the negotiations in western Ukraine, and he did not elaborate further on who Zelensky believed was deceiving him. The two men met with UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and signed an agreement on restoring Ukrainian infrastructure destroyed during the conflict.

The Ukrainian president has been firing high-ranking members of his administration at a fast clip since Russia’s military operation began in February. Special forces commander Grigory Galagan was removed last month.

First Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Ruslan Demchenko was also let go last month, though for apparent health reasons, while Prosecutor General Irina Venediktova and Intelligence Bureau chief Ivan Bakanov were suspended and placed under investigation on suspicion of working with Russia.

Not content to merely behead the Ukrainian security service (SBU), Zelensky announced a personnel audit in the agency and fired several regional heads as well. He had apparently been planning to audit the SBU for some time, claiming that on February 24, the day Russia launched its offensive in the Donbass, some representatives of a law enforcement agency were “somewhere [else], instead of protecting their people.”
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Adobe said:
"Why publish the video - they should send agents to apprehend her rather than let her know they know it's her?"

FWIW and just my opinion, but I think that information becoming public would give her nowhere to run. Can't imagine even her own team would have her back now. Using a US, probably, gangster term "she's been made"
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There was a post on Telegram suggesting that she is being prevented from returning to Ukraine.

"Our source in the PO said that the Main Intelligence Directorate asked Bankova to allow Vovk to return to Ukraine, but the President's Office refused to help her and banned her from returning to the country. The curators were instructed to hide all ties with Vovk, her person is highly toxic to the Ukrainian authorities"

From Military Summary
 

FWIW:​

US Alerts All Americans Still In Ukraine To 'Leave Immediately' Ahead Of Expanded Russian Strikes​


"The US State department has issued an emergency alert through the US embassy in Kyiv on Tuesday warning that any remaining Americans must leave Ukraine immediately. The alert says that Russia plans to step up attacks on civilian infrastructure across the war-ravaged country."

Article below:

US Alerts All Americans Still In Ukraine To 'Leave Immediately' Ahead Of Expanded Russian Strikes | ZeroHedge

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The following fits with China offering support for Russia while faced with US/NATO telling everyone how good and decent they are. The link to the Tweet is here. Below is an image and attached the image of the information slide only.
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Tomorrow is Ukraine Independence Day, and there have been many speculations in Ukraine, but maybe it is just going to be a normal day, although it is true that it will be six months since the beginning of the Special Military Operation.

About the National Hymn of Ukraine that no doubt will be song. The lyrics are:
Nay, thou art not dead, Ukraine, see, thy glory's born again,
And the skies, O brethren, upon us smile once more!
As in Springtime melts the snow, so shall melt away the foe,
And we shall be masters in our own home.

𝄆 Soul and body, yea, our all, offer we at freedom's call
We, whose forebears, and ourselves, proud Cossacks are! 𝄇
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And the National anthem of Russian, just for comparison.
I
Russia is our sacred state,
Russia is our beloved country.
A mighty will, great glory –
Your dignity for all time!

Chorus:
Be glorified, our free Fatherland,
The age-old union of fraternal peoples,
Ancestor-given wisdom of the people!
Be glorified, country! We are proud of you!

II
From the southern seas to the polar edge
Our forests and fields are spread out.
You are the only one in the world! You are the only one –
the native land so kept by God!

Chorus

III
A wide scope for dreams and for life
The coming years open to us.
We are given strength by our fidelity to the Fatherland.
So it was, so it is and it will always be so!

Chorus
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Some news about Natalya Vovk and the assassination case, mostly from Tsargrad (machine transl.).

Travelling

Today morning
According to journalist Anatoly Shariy, Vovk and her son, who allegedly also served in Azov*, lived in Lebanon for some time. In his Telegram, Shariy showed a photo of an "ordinary family" and wondered if any of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky's opponents died while they were living there.

From France to Poland

According to the alleged killer's father, her journey did not end in Lebanon - Europe was next. According to him, Vovk went to France as a refugee, "and then she did not like it, she returned to Poland and then to Ukraine.

She was in Russia three times.

According to the FSB, Vovk did not stay in Ukraine for long: to carry out her criminal mission - the murder of Dasha Dugina - the neo-Nazi went to Russia.

And now there is information, as if the murder suspect used fake documents. That Vovk was trying to cover her tracks became clear from surveillance footage - read about it on Tsargrad.

According to her father, during her last conversation with her Nazi daughter, she said she was in the Baltics. "She said she was in Lithuania," he said in an interview given to RIA Novosti, noting that the call was several days ago.
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Afternoon

According to Ukraina.ru, Natalia Vovk left the territory of Estonia and headed to Austria. It is noted that the woman, who looks like the killer of Daria Dugina, stayed at the Ibis Hauptbahnhof Wien hotel in the country's capital. The publication added that the reservation at the hotel in the center of Vienna was for one night only. Vovk flew to Austria in the company of two other women and a child. [Link]
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SEEN! UKRAINIAN VOVK, SUSPECTED IN DUGINA'S MURDER, RECOGNIZED IN AUSTRIAN HOTEL

Natalia Vovk has been traveling to different countries of Europe under a different name for the second day in a row
The suspect in the murder of Daria Dugina was spotted in the Vienna Ibis Wien Hauptbahnhof hotel. Hotel employees told RIA Novosti that a woman who looked very much like Natalia Vovk stayed overnight. The difficulty is that they could not find a visitor with that name in the data system.

Before that information had already spread that Vovk had left Estonia for Austria. So, employees of the Wien Hauptbahnhof told Russian correspondents that the woman must have been under a different name. [LINK]
(Elsewhere it was added that according to the employees that woman did arrive in Mini Morris and parked it there)
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Opinions
DUGINA'S MURDERER HAS BEEN SENTENCED IN UKRAINE AND IN THE WEST: THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY OUT

The murderer of Daria Dugina, Natalia Vovk, has already been sentenced both in Ukraine and in the West, and they will try to get rid of her, says Anatoly Matviychuk. She has only one way out to stay alive.

Vladimir Rogov, deputy head of the Zaporozhye regional state administration, believes that the only way for Natalya Vovk, the killer of political scientist and journalist Daria Dugina, to stay alive is to immediately run to the Russian Embassy in Estonia to confess. The opinion was commented in an interview for Tsargrad by retired military expert Colonel Anatoly Matviychuk.

The Ukrainian media said that MI6 officials had passed intelligence information to the office of the President of the Nezalezhnaya [Independent] that the FSB had all the facts about Vovk's involvement in the terrorist attack, and recommended that the head of the administration Andrei Yermak distance himself from the murder as much as possible, so as not to discredit Kiev on the international scene, and to clean up the perpetrators of the crime.

Matviychuk recalled that as soon as the news of Dugina's death became known, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, without waiting for any details, immediately stated that Kiev was allegedly not involved in any terrorist attacks:

And suddenly there is one hundred percent confirmation that it was Ukraine that was involved in the murder. Many of our politicians, senators have already said that Ukraine is a country that preaches state terrorism. Even, I don't think, the U.S. is now able to defend Kiev against this label, which is already attached.

Besides, there is the world public. A significant number of countries will officially condemn the actions of the Ukrainian authorities, even if the EU leadership tries to keep silent, the interlocutor of the "First Russian" is sure.

Therefore, now Kiev will want to remove Vovk. And the best option for her, just to stay alive, is to turn herself in at the Russian consulate. She'll get 15-20 years, but she'll survive. Otherwise, she will have only one road left - to the afterlife, because I think the verdict has already been pronounced not only in Ukraine, but also in Great Britain and in the United States," the expert summed up. [Link]
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And the Comedian:

MOSCOW, August 23 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky claims that Kiev is allegedly not responsible for the murder of journalist and political analyst Daria Dugina.

"It's definitely not our responsibility. Not our citizen, we are not interested. And she was not on Ukrainian territory," he said at a press conference following the Crimean Platform summit.
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In case anyone is interested, a lot of details of Vovk's life are collected here (in Ru).
 
SOTTREADER said:
I don't think one can readily dismiss the fact that this woman is now a target of Russian intelligence/security services and she can easily be killed by them. I don't think that's a western propaganda?

The fact that she can also be killed by Western security services doesn't mean she can't be killed by Russian security services! Just saying - no one knows what will happen to her for assassinating a political/cultural figure but these are just possibilities.
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The Russians "will kill her" since I see it difficult for them to capture her if she remains in Estonia unless in a strange twist they extradite her, otherwise any intelligence agency will try to kill her if they see her death striking enough to blame and leave the Russians like sadists... in any case the panorama does not look good for her.

What is Erdogan playing at, apart from apparently wanting to put Turkey among the leading countries in the world sphere? , well it's not that his actions are surprising and the fact that he has been talking to Ukraine this week, maybe what he has said are not merely protocol statements and he really believes that he could mediate between Ukraine and Russia, but as much as he wants to look friendly with Ukraine this is a bit too much.

Erdogan: From the first day, Turkey openly declared that the annexation of Crimea was unconstitutional and illegal, and did not recognize it. International law prescribes that Crimea should be returned to Ukraine, of which it is an integral part.
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Armagelipsis-matíasmaurán said:
The Russians "will kill her" since I see it difficult for them to capture her if she remains in Estonia unless in a strange twist they extradite her, otherwise any intelligence agency will try to kill her if they see her death striking enough to blame and leave the Russians like sadists... in any case the panorama does not look good for her.

What is Erdogan playing at, apart from apparently wanting to put Turkey among the leading countries in the world sphere? , well it's not that his actions are surprising and the fact that he has been talking to Ukraine this week, maybe what he has said are not merely protocol statements and he really believes that he could mediate between Ukraine and Russia, but as much as he wants to look friendly with Ukraine this is a bit too much.

Erdogan: From the first day, Turkey openly declared that the annexation of Crimea was unconstitutional and illegal, and did not recognize it. International law prescribes that Crimea should be returned to Ukraine, of which it is an integral part.
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Yes - it'll be silly to think Russia don't have undercover agents already in pursuit under various aliases and guises. I suspect for some it'll be if they can't capture her but they have her in their sights, they will have orders to take her out if for example it looks like she's going to escape to like US or UK for example.

Agents from CIA, UK etc will also be after her as well. I suspect they will capture her rather than kill her but her freedom will be gone. They will likely use her as a bargaining chip down the road.

Basically, she's managed to get everyone to be after her. She'll do well to get through the week.

Her poor daughter as well is a target.

Btw, Lavrov said there shouldn't be any mercy given. He wants her gone plus anyone directly involved.

 
I was just thinking back on the Mossad hit in Dubai of a Palastinian leader. Off the top of my head I think they used around 6-8 people. That many JUST TO KILL ONE PERSON. Looking at the videos of the hit, one would think that 3 could easily do it yet more were used.

So I find it very hard to believe that this one women was "the team" that did this, even if someone else gave her the bomb. Someone with her profile entering Russia I would think would result in close surveillance of what she was up to, regardless if she was with a child or not. Russia's facial recognition system of people entering Russia surely was good enough to ID her for who she was.

The choice of where this was done might be because way out in the outskirts of the city there are fewer human as well as electronic eyes to capture who was around the place of the hit. The hit wasn't done in the garage, after which the body could have been stuffed into a trunk and driven off into the country side, giving plenty of time to leave the country. Nope, the desired effect was to make it a spectacular fire show. The given explanation seems to me to be way too simple, unless it is presented this way to cover up a operational failure on the part of Russian intelligence services.
 
I just want to share something that blew my mind recently, nothing new for all of you, but it shows how society is ponerized. Kim Dotcom posted an obvious truth bomb on Twitter:

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This is exactly what we could expect looking at how the Western world operates. But what made me really upset is the new trend among the left-leaning part of the society of buying arms industry shares:

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It comes down to the fact that common folk is trying to make some money from the misery of Ukrainians, using infantile rationalization to feel good about it. That's also why there were so many stories about "Ukrainians destroyed (...) and (...) with HIMARS" (at least in news in Poland). Sickening.
 
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