Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

I keep getting the impression that something major is being cooked up for October/November along the Ukraine/Russia frontline. Democrats must do something to rescue themselves.

Something left field - one sure fire way of getting the US involved would be for a major attack inside US that then gets blamed on Russia.
 
I keep getting the impression that something major is being cooked up for October/November along the Ukraine/Russia frontline. Democrats must do something to rescue themselves.

Something left field - one sure fire way of getting the US involved would be for a major attack inside US that then gets blamed on Russia.
Well, maybe, but in the current situation, this is a game with fire. On the other hand, they've been doing just that lately.

It no longer seems like the ravings of a madman: the threat of a new civil war is growing in the United States, — The Guardian
22.08.2022 - 4:00

Distrust of democratic institutions is growing within American society. Moreover, many citizens buy weapons and admit that they are ready to use them against their political opponents. According to experts, all this indicates that the country is on the verge of a new internal conflict, the Guardian writes.

Earlier, Dr. Garen Wintemute, who founded the Center for the study of gun violence in California, laughed at warnings about the coming civil war in America, calling them "the ravings of a madman." writes, writes the Guardian.

Wintemute has long noticed that Americans are actively stocking up on weapons before the presidential election. Usually, after the vote, this excitement weakened, but not this time.

"2020," writes The Guardian. — We knew that, unlike previous bursts, this one does not end. People are still buying guns like crazy."

The expert wanted answers, and they stunned him. A survey conducted by the Wintemute Center showed that half of Americans expect a civil war in the United States in the next few years.

According to the study, one in five Americans believes that political violence is justified in some circumstances. In addition, about 40% said they were ready to sacrifice democracy in order to get a strong leader at the head of state.

"Combined with previous research, these results indicate a continuing alienation and distrust of American democratic society and its institutions. Significant minorities of the population approve of violence, including fatal ones, in order to achieve political goals," the authors of the report conclude.

Wintemute notes that many respondents expecting a civil war say that it is only "partly likely." But the fact that half of the population is considering such a possibility at all indicates a decline in the confidence of a large number of Americans in the existing state system, which is "under attack from Donald Trump and a significant part of the Republican Party," the Guardian believes.

A search conducted by the FBI at Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence earlier this month triggered another flurry of threats of violence against officials. Florida Senator Rick Scott compared the agency to the Gestapo. Police have killed a US Navy veteran who attacked the bureau's office in Ohio. A Pennsylvania resident was accused of threatening to "stab" federal agents, whom he called "scum of the police state" and compared with SS men, the publication draws attention.

A few days after the Mar-a-Lago search, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security reported a surge in threats of violence against federal agents, their families and the judge who issued the search warrant. The Bureau said that among them were calls for "civil war" and "armed uprising."

Election commission workers also began receiving threats after Trump accused the Democrats of rigging the 2020 elections. There has also been a sharp increase in cases of intimidation of other civil servants — from school board members and librarians to politicians.

According to Wintemute, the surge in violent threats is compounded by an increase in gun sales. "What happens when you take a society that is increasingly afraid for its future, becomes more polarized, more angry at yourself, and add a bunch of weapons to this cocktail?" he asks rhetorically.

Many Americans shudder when talking about the civil war, which has become the bloodiest in the history of the country. But Rachel Kleinfeld, a specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, does not rule out that a new internal conflict may shake the United States.

"Now I am most concerned about the poll, which shows that from 20% to 40% of Americans would like the country to be led by a strong leader who is not obliged to follow democratic rules. This will allow institutions to weaken, and an insurgency similar to the troubles in Northern Ireland may break out," she suggested in an interview with The Guardian.

A detailed analysis of the survey gives a more complex picture. But even so, according to Kleinfeld, the results are alarming. "You see 3 to 5 million Americans ready to harm other Americans for their political beliefs," she said.

The United States has a long history of political violence and murder. But now the biggest threat to stability comes from within the power structure, including Republicans, "undermining the electoral system and further weakening confidence in democracy," the publication claims.

In Kleinfeld's opinion, a study by the Wintemute Center shows that the American people are very tired of democracy. But at the same time, according to her, it is the Republicans who believe that they can get away with violence against opponents, "which is normalized by their leaders."

Trump "welcomed with open arms" groups of white nationalists, "Proud Boys" and Oath Keepers. As a result, the armed formations became part of big politics, which helped their participants to penetrate the power structures, the publication draws attention to.

In December, three retired American generals said that "Trumpism infected part of the armed forces," and noted that an "alarming number of veterans and active military personnel" participated in the attack on the Capitol. They warned of possible "deadly chaos" inside the US army if the results of the 2024 presidential election are challenged, the Guardian recalls.

"This really feels like a turning point in American democracy,— writer Liliana Mason told the publication. — We will probably see even more violence. I don't think it will decrease in the near future. But ultimately, how Americans react to this violence will determine whether it can be calmed or it will get out of control."

Kleinfeld also looks to the future without optimism.

"We are approaching a point where if the Trump faction wins, then I think we will see a sustained extremely high level of violence in the foreseeable future. And if she loses, then, in my opinion, everything will be even worse," the expert said.
Больше не кажется бредом сумасшедшего: в США растёт угроза новой гражданской войны, — Guardian

America has already lost, — National Interest
22.08.2022 - 13:13

Regardless of who wins the confrontation in Ukraine, America has already lost - an article with this title was published in the American publication National Interest.

According to author Ramon Marx, the United States will be a strategic loser, regardless of the results of the fighting in Ukraine.

"Russia will build closer relations with China and other countries of the Eurasian continent, including India, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf countries. It will irrevocably turn away from European democracies and Washington.

Just as President Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger played the "China card" to isolate the Soviet Union during the Cold War, so Presidents Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping will play their cards to remove the global leadership of the United States," the newspaper writes.
Америка уже проиграла, — National Interest

I draw your attention to the sources. This is not "Putin's propaganda."

Ну что ж, может быть, однако в текущей ситуации это игра с огнем. С другой стороны все последнее время они только этим и занимаются.
Обращаю ваше внимание на источники. Это не "путинская пропаганда".
 
Quickly revealed - it's good, but it was necessary to prevent

The FSB announced the involvement of the Ukrainian special services in the murder of Dugin's daughter
, the FSB revealed the murder of political scientist Daria Dugina, it was prepared by the Ukrainian special services

The murder of journalist Daria Dugina, committed in the Moscow region on August 20, has been solved; it was committed by Ukrainian special services. This was reported to TASS by the FSB of Russia.

The perpetrator of the murder is a citizen of Ukraine, who disappeared after the crime in Estonia.

According to the FSB, the woman, known as Natalia Vovk, followed Dugina using a Mini Cooper car, on which the license plates were changed. At the entrance to Russia, the registration number of the Donetsk People's Republic E982HN DPR was on the car. And in Moscow, the numbers of Kazakhstan — 172AJD02 - have already been used. After the murder, the performer left the country under the Ukrainian number AH7771IP.

The materials were transferred to the Investigative Committee of Russia, which is investigating the criminal case of Dugina's murder.
ФСБ заявила о причастности украинских спецслужб к убийству дочери Дугина

Putin called the murder of journalist Dugina vile
Russian President Putin sent condolences to the family of the murdered journalist Dugina

The murder of journalist Daria Dugina is a vile and cruel crime, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a telegram of condolences that he sent to the family of the deceased. The text of the telegram is provided on the Kremlin's official website.

Putin called Dugina herself a bright, talented person with a real Russian heart — kind, loving, responsive and open.

"A journalist, scientist, philosopher, war correspondent, she honestly served people, the Fatherland, proved by deed what it means to be a patriot of Russia. The memory of Daria Dugina will forever be preserved by relatives and friends, her like—minded people and associates," the head of state said.

Putin wished the Dugina family strength and courage.

Earlier, the FSB announced the disclosure of Dugina's murder. According to the agency, it was committed by the Ukrainian special services, and the perpetrator of the murder is Natalia Vovk, who disappeared after the crime in Estonia.

Daria Dugina died in a car explosion on Mozhaisk highway in the Moscow region on the evening of August 20. She was returning from the festival "Tradition" in the car in which her father was originally supposed to go.
Путин назвал подлым убийство журналистки Дугиной
 
That one was quick!

Russia releases video of suspected Moscow car bomber

Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has made public a video of Ukrainian national Natalya Vovk, identified as the prime suspect in Saturday’s car bombing that killed journalist Darya Dugina in Moscow. The footage published Monday shows Vovk and her teenage daughter entering Russia, inside the building where Dugina lived, and leaving the country in haste.

Vovk, 43, was named by the FSB on Monday as the prime suspect in the assassination of Dugina. The Ukrainian national arrived in Russia on July 23, using Donetsk People’s Republic license plates to avoid scrutiny. While in Moscow, she swapped the plates on her Mini Cooper to those of Kazakhstan, a friendly former Soviet republic. On Sunday, after the bombing, Vovk drove to Estonia with Ukrainian plates, the FSB said.
The authorities also said Vovk may have used her teenage daughter as cover to move around Russia more easily. She rented an apartment in the same building where Dugina lived, and was captured on the doorway camera.

A photo ID of Vovk in the uniform of Ukraine’s National Guard was published in April on the Russian internet, as part of a dox of neo-Nazi Azov regiment members. It lists her surname as Shaban – the surname her daughter used when entering Russia, according to the FSB. Ukraine previously claimed it was not involved in the assassination.
 
Curiouser and curiouser.

Elvira Shigapova

[machine transl.]
Natalia Vovk has been a staff member of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' Main Intelligence Directorate since 2010, with the rank of major and military specialty of infiltration and data collection.

"Since the time of the European Football Championship, she regularly had sexual relations with individuals necessary for development [her career], constantly travelled to London, Dubai, Warsaw and the Baltic countries. Escorts." - reports TG-channel The Image of the Future. According to the information of this subchannel, the father of her daughter is Vasily Burba.

I remembered an interview with Oleg Anatolievich Tsarev. At the time, in one of our stories in the program "Man and the Law" he named Burba (ex-GRU/military intelligence chief) among the founders of the CIA agent network in Ukraine.

In addition to Burba, Valentin Nalyvaichenko (ex-head of the SBU), Alexey Petrov (ex-head of the SBU counterintelligence department), and Valery Kondratyuk (ex-head of the SVR of Ukraine) were also mentioned.

So, the very fact that Vovk's daughter was most likely born to Burba "was an obstacle to closer cooperation with the handlers from MI6 from the beginning of the Russian special operation. Apparently, they assigned her the task to prove her reliability and consistency," writes Image of the Future.

[Образ будущего]
 
Why publish the video - they should send agents to apprehend her rather than let her know they know it's her?

In any case, this woman must now live knowing Russian agents can come for her at any point and she can be disappeared since she's now playing in the murky world of intelligence services.
Judging by the number of ex-Chechen terrorists who have died abroad in highly suspicious circumstances over the years, I'm thinking the SVR's attitude is probably "You can run, but you can't hide."
 
"Why publish the video - they should send agents to apprehend her rather than let her know they know it's her?"

FWIW and just my opinion, but I think that information becoming public would give her nowhere to run. Can't imagine even her own team would have her back now. Using a US, probably, gangster term "she's been made"
 
Why publish the video - they should send agents to apprehend her rather than let her know they know it's her?
She's in Estonia, part of NATO-land. They know she's out of reach, for now.

Meanwhile, TASS cites the FSB as saying that Darya was the sole target:

"Those who plotted the murder of Darya Dugina studied her daily routine and habits. When they set off the explosive device, those who remotely exploded the car were certain that Dugina was alone. Her father was not the killers’ target," the source said.
If anyone's interested, Joe and I discussed her murder on the first hour of yesterday's NewsReal.

At the risk of seeming crass, given that neither of the Dugins has real 'strategic, VIP value' to the Russian state, and thus whose 'termination' would benefit the West, we wonder if this was entirely a Ukie affair, something malicious to poke Russians more in a 'personal' than a 'strategic' way.

What seems to be happening more generally, with the recent major uptick in sabotage and terror attacks in Russian-occupied Ukraine, Crimea and Russia proper, is that the Ukies are scrambling to bring about direct, 'hot' conflict between the US and Russia, thus 'saving' Ukraine once Russia is wiped off the map. A fool's hope, of course, but the Ukies are particularly ruthless psychos.
 
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Judging by the number of ex-Chechen terrorists who have died abroad in highly suspicious circumstances over the years, I'm thinking the SVR's attitude is probably "You can run, but you can't hide."

The agencies she is associated with have their agents in Estonia; they may be interested in being quicker than SVR. And then Russia will be blamed, as usual.
 
Why publish the video - they should send agents to apprehend her rather than let her know they know it's her?

In any case, this woman must now live knowing Russian agents can come for her at any point and she can be disappeared since she's now playing in the murky world of intelligence services.

Judging by the number of ex-Chechen terrorists who have died abroad in highly suspicious circumstances over the years, I'm thinking the SVR's attitude is probably "You can run, but you can't hide."
"Bashirov and Petrov" never sleep and are always ready to eliminate all enemies of the Motherland at the first "green whistle", having bathed them in "novichok".

Seriously speaking, this fool should be afraid of her employers. For them, she is the biggest threat and a convenient excuse to once again "run into" Russia if something happens to her. Your statements prove once again that public opinion in the West is ready for this.

The situation, as I see it from here, is somewhat different. All the most high-profile incidents (Litvinenko, Berezovsky, Skripali) happened to the characters when they showed a desire to "wave their tail" in the other direction, and on the other hand, a very large number of characters "quite worthy" of a similar fate from Russia live quite safely in the United States and Britain. They live and do not cough, but only until their death (some mysterious one) turns out to be beneficial to their new owners. The story of Khodorkovsky is quite indicative. He was put in jail and he served quite a long time. YUKOS was taken away, legally or not, in this case it does not matter. Made of a billionaire.... just a millionaire, and in the very first interview after his release, he said in plain text: thank you to Putin for not touching the family. The question is, what could not be robbed "like a stick"? Don't make me laugh - if they wanted to, they would robbed him and he even still owed as much as they took away.

I think the example of the Chechens is completely incorrect, because these people are not some kind of ideological fighters, but ordinary bandits who incredibly got into political spheres, but did not become more decent people from this. These have been bickering themselves, mainly because of the money.

I'm very sorry that I'm getting into an argument again, but the "ears" of Western propaganda "sticking out" of your statements "cut me in the armpits."

"Баширов и Петров" никогда не спят и всегда готовы по первому "зеленому свистку" ликвидировать всех врагов Родины, искупав их в "новичке".
Если серьезно говорить, то эта дура должна бояться своих нанимателей. Для них она самая большая угроза и удобный повод в очередной раз "наехать" на Россию, если с ней что то случится. Ваши утверждения лишний раз доказывают, что общественное мнение на западе готово именно к этому.
Ситуация, какой она мне видится отсюда, несколько другая. Все самые громкие инциденты (Литвиненко, Березовский, Скрипали) произошли с персонажами, когда они проявляли желание "махнуть хвостом" в другую сторону и с другой стороны в США и в Британии вполне благополучно живет очень большое количество персонажей, "вполне достойных" подобной участи со стороны России. Живут и не кашляют, но только до тех пор пока их смерть (какая-нибудь загадочная) не окажется выгодной их новым хозяевам. Довольно показательна история с Ходорковским. Его посадили и он отсидел довольно долго. Отняли ЮКОС, законно или нет, в данном случае не имеет значения. Сделали из миллиардера.... просто миллионером и в самом первом интервью после освобождения он прямым текстом сказал: спасибо Путину, что не тронул семью. Вопрос, что не смогли обобрать "как липку"? Не смешите- захотели бы, обобрали бы и еще остался бы должен столько же сколько отняли.
Пример с чеченцами я считаю совсем некорректным, потому что эти люди не какие то идейные борцы, а обычные бандиты, невероятным образом попавшие в политические сферы, но не ставшие от этого более приличными людьми. Эти перегрызлись сами, в основном из за денег.
Я очень извиняюсь, что опять вступаю в спор, но "уши" западной пропаганды, "торчащие" из ваших утверждений мне "режут в подмышках".
 
Another idiot voluntarily put a noose around his neck. What you can't do to become Putin's "personal enemy" in Western eyes. But it's not the time to joke, it's the time to cry - this character recently sat in our State Duma. How many of such of them are there still leave?!

The Voice of Mordor: The obvious contender for the Darwin Prize is Ilyusha Ponomarev
22.08.2022 22:46

In the story of the murder of Dasha Platonova, an obvious contender for the Darwin Prize appeared — Ilyusha Ponomarev, who voluntarily, together with some mythical "partisans", took responsibility for this terrorist act. It is clear that he has nothing to do with it, but…

After all, no one pulled at the tongue, but fighting is such a thing that sometimes turns off the brain completely. And then — the instinct of self-preservation is nothing, and PR, and stupid — everything.

In general, I do not exclude at all that the guys from the GUR, or from the SBU are already sitting somewhere, drinking beer and deciding in what way "the FSB will kill a prominent Russian oppositionist Ilya Ponomarev." A beginner, an ice pick, or a banal bullet in the back of the head on a quiet evening Kiev street.
There are a lot of ways, and Ilyusha is not such a difficult goal for specialists from the GUR, or the SBU. Or maybe they won't get dirty themselves, but they will strain some sadists from the gang of the same Eugene Karas:
— Come on, Ilyusha, say "palyanitsa"!

Pastor Schlag was wrong. Very much. The option that Ilyusha will be sent to the next world in order to blame it on the FSB as revenge for the murder of Dasha is more than likely. Do you remember how "FSB agents killed Arkasha Babchenko"? The only difference will be that Ilyusha will not be resurrected.

In general, Ilya now needs to look around. And even better — to shave off the mustache with a beard and "tear the claws". And — not even to Poland, but somewhere much further away.
https://news-front.info/2022/08/22/...endent-na-premiju-darvina-iljusha-ponomarjov/

It's almost a pretty useless idea, but something needs to be done and these are real actions.

Russia will raise the issue of Daria Dugina's murder at an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council
22.08.2022 20:16

Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzia: Russia will raise the topic of Dugina's murder at an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on Tuesday

Russia will raise the issue of Daria Dugina's murder at an urgent meeting of the UN
Security Council novostivl.ru
Russia will raise the issue of Daria Dugina's murder at an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on Tuesday, Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzia told reporters.

"We have requested an urgent meeting on Zaporozhye, where Ukrainian provocations do not stop. Of course, we will talk about this episode (about the murder of Daria Dugina)," Nebenzia said.

"This demonstrates the character of the Ukrainian state, because there is an obvious connection between their saboteurs and this murder, which has already been disclosed by the FSB," the permanent representative added.

Political scientist and journalist Daria Dugina died on Saturday evening in a car explosion on Mozhaisk highway in the Odintsovo district of the Moscow region.

Two days later, the FSB announced the disclosure of the crime. The department reported that the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services, and the perpetrator of the murder is a citizen of Ukraine Natalia Vovk. According to the service, Vovk came to Russia with her daughter Sofia Shaban.

On the day of the murder, they were at the literary and musical festival "Tradition", where Dugina was present as an honorary guest. After committing a controlled explosion of a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado car, driven by Dugina, on August 21, Vovk, together with her daughter, left through the Pskov region for Estonia.
https://news-front.info/2022/08/22/...va-dari-duginoj-na-srochnom-zasedanii-sb-oon/

Еще один идиот добровольно накинул петлю себе на шею. Чего не сделаешь, чтоб в западных глазах стать "личным врагом Путина". Но шутить не время, время плакать- этот персонаж еще недавно сидел у нас в Госдуме. Сколько их там таких ещё осталось?!
Практически довольно бесполезная затея, но что-то делать надо и это реальные действия.
 
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This is really annoying and unprofessional conduct from the side of FSB. Why Dugin and the familly wasnt guarded? It needs only one man to be around, for bomb not to be planted in the car.
 
I'm very sorry that I'm getting into an argument again, but the "ears" of Western propaganda "sticking out" of your statements "cut me in the armpits."
Understandable, but you can share your thoughts and views without personal digs. You're not dealing with trolls here after all. We are here to learn - including from each other.
 
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