Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[Voyageur]

This is from What's Up Canada? that is making its rounds. Thought it was going to be all on covid/Jabs, however it starts off with a discussion on Ukraine (first 30 min. or so). Curiously, these types of outlets have a growing left following (anti-vax have both sides), so they too are getting the alternate messages on Ukraine.

One wonders if more and more in Canada are seeing what's going on (you'd have to be blind not to).

All his points may not be agreed upon, and things need to be checked, yet he has things to say.

Off the record, guest Dr Trozzi had "unexpected" questions

Oh boy did this one go delightfully sideways! I've been unfairly fortunate to get to know a lot of doctors over the past few years, some of the best humanity has to offer. A few like Dr Mark Trozzi ha

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Off the record, guest Dr Trozzi had "unexpected" questions​

Oh boy did this one go delightfully sideways! I've been unfairly fortunate to get to know a lot of doctors over the past few years, some of the best humanity has to offer. A few like Dr Mark Trozzi have even become friends. We had arranged to have a catch up chat this afternoon, we usually have a lot to catch up on and try to connect semi regularly. Today however went a little differently when a few minutes into our chat Mark asks "Can we turn the camera on, I want to ask YOU some questions if I may?"...it caught me a little unprepared but why not?

Totally off the cuff, we wander was not your usual #DoctorTalk here is like. I got interviewed on my own show lol. Funny thing, it may have ended up more informative in different ways thn either of us expected. Either way, I was happy to answer questions he couldn't get answers to, and to give him an opportunity to have a stimulating, intellectual discussion getting answers to his questions. A nice change I learned, like a mini holiday from what he spends endless hours regurgitating daily, for years, answering questions. I hope you enjoy my interview with the talented Dr Mark Trozzi and don't forget to subscribe!

Mentioned (Ukraine):

- The old Harper governments early work in Ukraine (Chrystia Freeland's mother was mentioned having been send there by Harper, and more on daughter Chrystia's role)
- Hunter Biden's work with Burisma in Ukraine that happen to have extensive holdings/ties in Canada
- Canada is a doormat for the alphabet agencies to funnel and wash, with deniability
- Putin's experiences with the WEF and what he came to understand, hence his multipolar push back
- Ukraine became the melting pot of corruption
- Ukraine biologicals(western lead) experimentations
- The Ukraine war from the get-go, was already lost. Its a meat grinder

This then moves to Canadian politics, vaccines, climate change etc. (heavy on the WEF ties) and could be cross posted to a different thread, although the Ukraine aspect is mentioned here.

 

[Michael B-C]

Here is something I find pretty interesting ever since the special military operation started:

I think all analysts, commentators and experts, no matter how good they are, continuously and repeatedly failed to make sound/good/true predictions on "what will happen next". It looks like nobody really can predict what the Russians will do exactly and where and when. I think that can partly be explained by the very fluid situation in Ukraine, but also by the military strategy the Russians employ, which seem to use strategies that are not set in stone at all, in large parts. I think a big part of the Russian strategy is based around the idea that reality changes always, so they have to continuously adapt to changing realities on the ground (and the greater reality surrounding it: aka; Russia against the global empire). Another part is certainly brilliant tactics and abilities from Putin himself and other important people down the line.

Therefore, I think any analyst should learn from that and be more cautious and thoughtful when it comes to predictions.

Ever since the change of emphasis happened post the shelving of the SMO and the gradual transformation ever since, if you look carefully and objectively from a distance at every single step the Russians have taken since - be they on the battlefield or at a state and economic level - the answer seems to be that Russia is preparing for all out hot war with NATO/the west. The current battlefield strategy in Ukraine is all merely preparation for that. They know its coming and are getting all their ducks in a row. That's my take on why analysts are confounded - because they keep thinking in terms of this 'side-show' conflict not the real one that actually has long since begun. The physical realization into a recognizable reality on the ground - or dare I say it, broadcast as such in the 'News - is but a matter of time - and Russia is getting fully prepared for that 4 steps ahead of the rest. My suggestion FWIW.

 

[JEEP]

Just in case . . .

Roscosmos releases coordinates for strikes on European capitals The Moscow Times

On the first day of the NATO summit in Madrid, Roscosmos published the coordinates of European capitals and Washington. The department explained that they did this “just in case.”

In addition, satellite images were posted there and stated that they represented “decision-making centers that support Ukrainian nationalists.” Roscosmos considers NATO headquarters in Brussels, the Bundestag building in Berlin, the center of London and Paris, the Pentagon and the White House in the United States, as well as the very venue for the Alliance summit in Madrid, to be such.

Earlier, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that the participants in the NATO summit in Madrid on June 28-30 would declare Russia a “threat to peace and stability”, ceasing to consider it as a partner.

He also warned Russian President Vladimir Putin about the inadmissibility of unleashing a nuclear war. Stoltenberg called Russia’s nuclear saber-rattling “dangerous and irresponsible.”

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, also spoke about the threat of a third world war on the eve of the NATO summit. He warned that Moscow would regard “any attempt to encroach on Crimea” as a casus belli, and if a NATO country does this, then Russia will have to fight with the entire Alliance.

 

[JEEP]

From Sputnik:

Russia Rolls Out Combat Robot to 'Detect and Destroy' Leopard 2, Abrams Tanks Sent to Ukraine
On Wednesday, Washington and Berlin announced they were ready to provide Kiev with M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 tanks in the coming months. The decisions came as Russia continues its special military operation in Ukraine.

A strike version of the Russian-made Marker robot will be capable of hitting the German and US-made main battle tanks, due to be delivered to Ukraine, Dmitry Rogozin, former director general of the Russian federal space agency Roscosmos, has told Sputnik.

He explained that the robot’s control system features an electronic catalog with images of targets in the visible and infrared ranges, which helps the Marker automatically detect the enemy’s military hardware.

 

[Possibility of Being]

Just in case . . .

Roscosmos releases coordinates for strikes on European capitals The Moscow Times

On the first day of the NATO summit in Madrid, Roscosmos published the coordinates of European capitals and Washington. The department explained that they did this “just in case.” /.../

Just a quick note: it was 7 months ago. Not sure what's the point in posting it here now.

 

[youlik]

Just a quick note: it was 7 months ago. Not sure what's the point in posting it here now.

In this list, it would be nice to add bases from where weapons are shipped to Europe and gas terminals filling tankers would also be nice. Although it's all on the coast and Poseidon, plus or minus, without a difference, the specific location will wash away a lot of things at once. Well, just in case

Spoiler: Russian spelling

В этот список добавить бы базы, откуда идет отгрузка оружия В Европу и газовые терминалы, наполняющие танкеры тоже неплохо было бы. Хотя это все на побережье и Посейдону плюс-минус без разницы конкретное местоположение- разом смоет много чего. Ну так, на всякий случай

 

[youlik]

Media: Britain may give Ukraine fighter jets after the withdrawal of Russian troops

Telegraph: London may transfer fighter jets to the Ukrainian Armed Forces if Russia withdraws troops from Ukraine

MOSCOW, January 28 — RIA Novosti. Britain can provide Ukraine with combat aircraft, but only after the withdrawal of Russian troops, the Telegraph newspaper writes.
According to the publication, one of the high-ranking sources in the British Air Force did not rule out that Kiev will be transferred to aviation. At the same time, he noted that such a step is not a priority for London.
According to the source, Ukraine may receive aircraft to protect its airspace, but only when Russia leaves its territory.
Earlier, Vladimir Zelensky, after Western countries announced their intention to supply tanks to Ukraine, called for planes and missiles to be delivered to Kiev.
Last spring, Moscow sent a note to NATO member countries because of the transfer of weapons to Ukrainian troops. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned that any cargo containing military equipment would become a legitimate target for the Russian Aerospace Forces.

СМИ: Британия может дать Украине истребители после вывода российских войск

Well, that's right, they are interested in making this nightmare last as long as possible and are doing everything just for this.

 

[Antony]

If I understand you aright Antony you are saying the Russians should be concerned by these new promises. Maybe consider the following:

1. The Ukrainians are currently down to around 170 tanks from an initial force close to 2,000 at the start of the war. That's an attrition rate of over 90%. So that's one reason why the scream for tanks now is so loud. This also tells you something about the Russian military's complex, inter woven and highly potent anti-tank capability. The tiny number of tanks on offer by NATO - unlikely more than 200-300 - will change nothing now the Russian military has both practiced and perfected this capability.

2. The Abrams and the Leopards are not designed or remotely suitable for tank warfare in eastern Ukraine - they are way too heavy being designed and intended for combat in built up areas of central Europe (e.g. Germany). If they come off the roads they will literally get stuck in the mud until the heat of high summer makes the ground remotely possible for them.

3. Furthermore the heavier the weaponry the higher the increase in maintenance and logistical support required. In the case of both the leopard and the Abrams, the sheer number of specialist service crew and the size of the tank transport and pick up equipment required means that the second each tank runs into any form of difficulty it will effectively be finished as a viable threat. The equivalent of a burst tyre - game over! Added to this, any broken down or damaged tanks that are rescued will have to be shipped back to Poland because the resources and skills required to fix them are not available in Ukraine, again taking them out of action for extended periods.

4. They also have significant design faults that - in the case of the Leopard - make it highly susceptible to battleground stress or crewing error. Ask the Turks who after years of training found their Leopards a total liability when facing the less well armed and resourced jihadists. Beware the lure of a name - the Leopard is actually a neutered stray and will find the last of its reputation go up in smoke as its far more feared predecessors did at the Battle of Kursk.

5. If they are to be crewed by Ukrainians it will take months before they are even close to basic battleground proficiency let alone potency, and given the scale of Russian anti tank resources they face, sadly the crews will not live long enough to acquire either.

6. The US order of Abrams is not coming from US Army stock but 'directly from the manufacturer' with some expert logistical commentators saying this is a sly fudge by the Biden team because there are actually none in stock and they will therefore have to be built from scratch which will take at least a year to deliver! And in a year's time, other than burnt out German Panzers, there will be no Ukrainian army left.

7. All these disparate weapons are all designed and operated to different specs from each other and also to totally different specs to what the Ukrainian army knows. That's called fighting with one arm behind your back.

You cannot successfully create an efficient and potent armed force on the hoof, especially one with equipment that is unsuitable and incompatible. That is why effectively two Ukrainian armies have already been destroyed to date and the third is now dying around Bakhmut.

People see tanks and go wooo! People see images on TV and think wow! But tanks, like cavalry, if not used correctly and with a high degree of protection from other resources such as air power and close infantry support, end up being so easily wiped out in large numbers and at no gains. The west cannot and will not give more than a token amount of its reserve tanks without making their own depleted stocks run so dangerously low that if it actually had to fight a hot war with Russia it would lose within a week.

As for the issue of aviation that is the funniest think I've yet heard! Do people have any idea the scale of the logistics, the complexity of integration, the length of time it would take for Ukrainian pilots to learn new western aircraft from scratch! Weapons are nothing without the men who use them and the men who use them are nothing without sometimes years of training!

None of these weapons are being sent for military strategic purposes. Its all cakes and circuses and blame game avoidance.

God help the Ukrainian boys being asked to deal with this s*'t-show!

Michael,
I understand your thoughts. But i will try to be short. West a year ago was not going to give ukraine even artillery. Even javeline and stingers were doubtful. Now, as we are not winning this ‘conspiracy’ war, they started to give heavy weaponry. As i have said, next step will be aviation, missiles etc. despite the logistics and other ‘difficulties’. (They would have not done it if we were winning).
A small and ‘funny’ question for you and Team. What country also marks it’s armor with sacred cabal/masonic V and Z? Coincidence?
Really afraid that the Nuke option could be the only deterrence

 

[Hi_Henry]

This is from What's Up Canada? that is making its rounds. Thought it was going to be all on covid/Jabs, however it starts off with a discussion on Ukraine (first 30 min. or so). Curiously, these types of outlets have a growing left following (anti-vax have both sides), so they too are getting the alternate messages on Ukraine.

One wonders if more and more in Canada are seeing what's going on (you'd have to be blind not to).

All his points may not be agreed upon, and things need to be checked, yet he has things to say.

Off the record, guest Dr Trozzi had "unexpected" questions

Oh boy did this one go delightfully sideways! I've been unfairly fortunate to get to know a lot of doctors over the past few years, some of the best humanity has to offer. A few like Dr Mark Trozzi ha

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It's stated in the interview by Mr. Wayne that he doesn't know exactly how Schwab got started. Well the answer to that is not too hard to find as the info is out there within easy reach.

The Kissinger Continuum: The Unauthorized History of the WEF’s Young Global Leaders Program​

The World Economic Forum’s Young Global Leaders program, Klaus Schwab’s supposed brainchild, is actually an almost exact replica of Henry Kissinger’s International Seminar that was originally run out of Harvard and was funded by the CIA. In this article, Johnny Vedmore investigates the people behind Kissinger’s International Seminar, the CIA conduits which funded the program, and Kissinger’s key role in the creation of the WEF’s Young Global Leaders program itself.

The Unauthorized History of the WEF’s Young Global Leaders Program

The WEF's Young Global Leaders program is a replica of Henry Kissinger's CIA-funded International Seminar, which the WEF's founder Klaus Schwab attended. Kissinger was not only a mentor to Schwab, but also helped launch the Young Global Leaders program himself.

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The eyes above tell clearly who is in charge and who takes directives. Schwab looks almost like a lost child. I see no confidence in the expression, as opposed to Kissinger.

I doubt anyone can do anything on a grand scale in the US without people like the Rockefellers knowing and giving the nod. After all, it is the machinery of the country they hold a grip on that is used in projects such as the one we are to believe Schwab is the brainchild of directing. Schwab is only the administrator, not the owner.

Question: I hear this off and on. "Putin was a graduate of WEF Young Global Leaders Program". Was he ?
All I ever found was that he was there with the mayor of St. Petersburg Sobchak as a right hand man.

 

[Hi_Henry]

Addition to my above post

World Economic Forum
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Arkady Volsky - World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 1991​

DAVOS/SWITZERLAND, JAN 1991 - Arkady Volsky; Leonid Kravchuk; Aga Khan; Arnold Rüütel; Anatoly Sobchak, Mayor of St Petersburg, captured during the Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos in 1991.​

Copyright World Economic Forum (www.weforum.org)​

Click on the photo below and then look through the album of photos. You get a taste of who was there many years earlier when in the prime of their lives. Some names are a surprise to me, but I'm sure they were there just to eat chocolate and drink coffee.

https://flic.kr/p/ad8wx2

 

[Pierre]

"Macron left arm of Biden and salesman of NATO would be about to authorize the delivery of combat aircraft Mirages in Ukraine ! It smacks of the full powers of March 1933 on the side of Germany."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618984983804387328

 

[JEEP]

[15:08]
Zakharova's POWERFUL Message To Olaf Scholz (EN Translated)

Maria Zakharova delivered a moving and powerful message to Olaf Sholz following his disastrous decision to open old wounds by delivering German Panzers once again to fight Russians. If you ever doubted the hurt, pain and trauma that is remembered, and still felt and carried by Russian people to this day, just look into Maria Zakharova's eyes as she recounts the words of her Grandmother.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Ever since the change of emphasis happened post the shelving of the SMO and the gradual transformation ever since, if you look carefully and objectively from a distance at every single step the Russians have taken since - be they on the battlefield or at a state and economic level - the answer seems to be that Russia is preparing for all out hot war with NATO/the west. The current battlefield strategy in Ukraine is all merely preparation for that. They know its coming and are getting all their ducks in a row. That's my take on why analysts are confounded - because they keep thinking in terms of this 'side-show' conflict not the real one that actually has long since begun. The physical realization into a recognizable reality on the ground - or dare I say it, broadcast as such in the 'News - is but a matter of time - and Russia is getting fully prepared for that 4 steps ahead of the rest. My suggestion FWIW.

I think a hot war is a nuclear war and we all agree that won't happen. We agree, right.....? Riiiight?

 

[iamthatis]

It's stated in the interview by Mr. Wayne that he doesn't know exactly how Schwab got started. Well the answer to that is not too hard to find as the info is out there within easy reach.

The Unauthorized History of the WEF’s Young Global Leaders Program

The WEF's Young Global Leaders program is a replica of Henry Kissinger's CIA-funded International Seminar, which the WEF's founder Klaus Schwab attended. Kissinger was not only a mentor to Schwab, but also helped launch the Young Global Leaders program himself.

unlimitedhangout.com

The eyes above tell clearly who is in charge and who takes directives. Schwab looks almost like a lost child. I see no confidence in the expression, as opposed to Kissinger.

I doubt anyone can do anything on a grand scale in the US without people like the Rockefellers knowing and giving the nod. After all, it is the machinery of the country they hold a grip on that is used in projects such as the one we are to believe Schwab is the brainchild of directing. Schwab is only the administrator, not the owner.

Question: I hear this off and on. "Putin was a graduate of WEF Young Global Leaders Program". Was he ?
All I ever found was that he was there with the mayor of St. Petersburg Sobchak as a right hand man.

I think this was talked about earlier in the thread when people started clamouring about Putin being a not-so-secret agent of the PTB. My understanding is that with the comments from the C's plus his words and actions since at least the 2007 Munich Conference leading up the the present moment of the SMO tell us a lot more about where his heart is than any membership in any globalist organization. It looks like he isn't on any archived list of WEF Young Global Leaders:

The Young Global Leaders of the Davos World Economic Forum (WEF)

An overview of the World Economic Forum (WEF) Young Global Leaders and Global Leaders for Tomorrow in politics and the media.

swprs.org

In a speech in 2017, WEF founder Klaus Schwab mentioned Russian President Vladimir Putin as a Young Global Leader, but Putin is not mentioned on any archived member list. Putin did, however, attend a 1992 WEF meeting in St. Petersburg, where he was serving as head of the Committee for External Relations of the Mayor’s Office at the time.

He has made speeches as the WEF, although not very often, and they don't sound like the words of Schwab acolyte, like this most recent one:

Russian President Putin's Speech At The World Economic Forum: Complete English Translation - Russia Briefing News

“Love is impossible if it is declared only by one side. It must be mutual.” Highly Critical of US Social Media and Big Tech “Russia & Europe” belong together Warns of World Approaching Unsettling Political Future The Russian President Vladimir Putin made a Keynote Address at the World...

www.russia-briefing.com

Speaking of the Munich speech, here it is. I think the video description is useful:

Vladimir Putin's landmark speech on February 10th 2007 at 43rd Munich Security Conference where he openly criticized the US for its striving for a unipolar world, its unrestrained use of force and its disdain for international law. For the first time since the end of the Cold War he made clear that Russia does not intend to fit in this kind of world order. Despite his criticism, Putin didn't seek confrontation but called for a new partnership on a fair basis.The Western mainstream media, however, distorted his speech and portrayed it as a malicious attack.

I think that most of Putin's earlier actions, including his appearances at Davos or in company with other shady characters, might be interpreted along the lines above - he was doing his best to take care of Russian interests, and also global security stability. Perhaps was being a bit naive or wishfully thinking that he was dealing with actual human beings capable of mutual cooperation on a fair basis. Either that or he was acutely aware of being surrounded by threats on all sides and was biding his time in preparation for something like the SMO. Maybe a bit of both?

 

[Adobe]

Thank you, JEEP, for this post. It was a moving 15 minutes, maybe even "historic."

I hope it can be seen by some common people of the EU.

Zakharova's POWERFUL Message To Olaf Scholz (EN Translated)