Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[caballero reyes]

I have the impression that Europeans, I cannot assure that the majority, are afraid of the swastika and I don't know why, perhaps because they are not interested in History.


N1mTzo said:
We're going a little off topic here, but I'd like to put in my two cents.
Indeed, what you described about the swastika is the "official version". The Nazis "turned over" the cross and it became bad. Even from Sanskrit, the word "swastika" is translated as "bring good." But is it really so? Is it possible that ancient people were cleverly deceived by those who presented themselves as Gods (they gave people culture, art, metallurgy, agriculture, etc. "goods") There are, as the C's would say, "deeper levels of reality" (literally I mean, the answers are in the depths of the earth).
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What you wrote is something that may be possible.

I have not known that for the ancient Mexicans, nor for the current ones, the swastika had something deceptive or mysterious.
It is simply a moving cross, a solar sign, which represents the four cardinal points of the earth, the four seasons, the four lunar quarters, and the four primary colors, all in motion and very well known to the ancient Mexicans.

I don't see anything extraordinary about this, nor do I think it's an 'official version', although other cultures may interpret it differently.

And, yes, I think you're right, we're off topic for this thread, maybe we should open another thread, 'Symbols and some things you read about in books or the internet but that people can't understand'.
The moderators decide.

 

[Natus Videre]

From Session 26 February 2022:

(Niall) I'm worried, so I want to ask this and get it out of the way. Are they gonna try to assassinate Putin?
A: It has been tried and they will try again.
[...]
Q: (Julian) Will elements of the Ukraine military attempt to oust Zelensky?
A: Zelensky is more likely to be subject of a permanent hit.

From Svetlana Dragan's thread:

8.04.23 – 25.05.23 is a time of extreme danger for Zelensky. It's an extremely difficult time for decisions. There will be some choice, but it will be fatal in a sense. And for Ukraine itself, this time is exceptionally turning. A lot will be determined there. It is especially difficult in the area of 19-20.04.23.

Things are getting dicey for Zelensky...

 

[youlik]

Good news. By the way, Russian similar ammunition, the so-called UMPK bombs, have not yet gone astray, which the Ukrainian military has been constantly complaining about lately

Russian air defenses destroyed the American JDAM-ER aerial bomb for the first time.

Igor Konashenkov, a representative of the Ministry of Defense, reported on the first case of the destruction of the American JDAM-ER aerial bomb used by Ukrainian pilots.

During the daily briefing on the progress of the special military operation, Igor Konashenkov, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, announced the first official destruction by Russian air defense forces of the American JDAM-ER aerial bomb used by Ukrainian pilots.

Meanwhile, Russian aerial bombs with control and correction modules continue to strike enemy positions, remaining unattainable for the Ukrainian air defense system. According to data from the Russian Ministry of Defense, 9 successful sorties were carried out only in the Artemovsky direction.

The summary also indicated the destruction of 16 enemy unmanned aerial vehicles and the successful interception of four missiles fired from the HIMARS MLRS. Recently, there has been a significant increase in the activity of Ukrainian UAVs, both in the special operation zone and in the deep rear of Russia.

In addition, it became known about night attacks by Ukrainian drones on objects located far from the special operation zone. As a result of one of the attacks, a fire started at an oil depot in the Krasnodar Territory, and information was also received about an attempted attack on the Kremlin residence of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Российские военные впервые перехватили американскую авиабомбу JDAM-ER

They have already written about the strike on Odessa. Now we have concretized the immediate purpose of the attack

A powerful blow was struck at the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy in Odessa
The Russian unmanned vehicle "Geran-2" attacked the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy in Odessa.

The Russian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) "Geran-2" made a successful attack on the headquarters of the Naval Forces (Navy) of Ukraine, located in the city of Odessa. The attack was allegedly extremely powerful. This is reported by the Russian military commander Rudenko.

The attack on the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy led to the destruction of the building and significant damage to the military infrastructure. As a result of the strike, there are wounded and dead, but the exact number of victims is still being determined.

According to sources in the defense industry, the Geran-2 UAV was designed and developed in Russia and has the ability to fly autonomously over long distances, as well as to target targets using a powerful warhead. Probably, these characteristics ensured the successful execution of the operation.

At the moment, there are no official comments from the Russian side on this matter, however, the attack could be related to the response to the recent drone attack on the Kremlin.

По штабу ВМС Украины в Одессе нанесён мощный удар

If, as they say here, these are Soviet bunkers, then their addresses are known unequivocally. The question is that it was built so reliably that it is impossible to take conventional weapons. For example, we were recently shown warehouses near Soledar.

Storage locations of HIMARS systems in Ukraine have been discovered
Ukraine hides American HIMARS missile systems in Soviet bunkers.

As part of strengthening Ukraine's defense capability and implementing joint programs with the United States, the Ukrainian army has placed several American HIMARS high mobility missile systems in old Soviet bunkers. This information is based on the sources of The Drive and photos published on the Internet.

HIMARS, or High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, is a lightweight, highly mobile missile system designed to hit various targets at long distances. These systems have attracted a lot of attention of the Self-Defense Forces of Ukraine and their American allies in connection with the current situation.

It is reported that HIMARS were delivered to Ukrainian territory as part of the US military assistance program, but the exact data on the number of missile systems and their location have so far remained secret. Now, thanks to the published photos, it has become known that some of the American missile systems are located in abandoned Soviet bunkers on the territory of Ukraine.

The use of old Soviet bunkers for storing HIMARS missile systems may be due to several factors. Firstly, these structures have unique engineering features that allow them to protect equipment from the effects of external factors, such as explosions or radiation pollution. Secondly, bunkers provide an additional level of camouflage and secrecy, which allows the Ukrainian armed forces to keep missile systems in full readiness for combat operations.

It is not known exactly where such bunkers can be located, however, given the fact that they have been located on the territory of Ukraine since Soviet times and should be located near the front line, it is quite realistic to calculate the location.

Обнаружены места хранения систем HIMARS на Украине

Ukrainian Forrest Gump continues to run and his further goal became known a little ahead of time

In Kiev, they were angry because of the leak of information about Zelensky's visit to Germany

Zelensky is indeed planning a visit to Germany on May 13, but the fact that information about this was leaked to the German press irritated the Ukrainian authorities, which may affect the visit.

In particular, the German T-Online, with reference to the Berlin police, writes that during Zelensky's visit, increased security measures will be introduced in the Berlin-Mitte area — it plans an operation with barriers, document checks, snipers and dog handlers.

Zelensky is scheduled to meet with Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier on May 13, and with Chancellor Olaf Scholz on May 14.

After that, he should visit the city of Aachen, where he will be awarded the Charlemagne Prize. Then he will go back to Ukraine.

"The Ukrainian government reacted angrily to the leak of information from Germany: it was "very disappointed" that "obviously very sensitive information about security policy was deliberately published from German sources," t—online reports, citing sources in the Ukrainian authorities.

https://rusvesna.su/news/1683125336

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Хорошая новость. Кстати Российские аналогичные боеприпасы, так называемые бомбы с УМПК, пока не сбиваются, о чем украинские военные последнее время постоянно жалуются
Про удар по Одессе уже писали. Теперь конкретизировали непосредственную цель атаки
Если, как тут пишут, это советские бункеры, то адреса их известны однозначно. Вопрос в том, что построено это было настолько надежно, что обычным оружием взять невозможно. Для примера нам недавно показали склады под Соледаром.
Украинский Форрест Гамп продолжает бежать и дальнейшая его цель стала известна несколько раньше времени

 

[youlik]

I don't see Putin being vindictive to the point of murdering a head of state, but psychologically, Medvedev's words will prey on Zelensky's already overrwought mind causing him to keep looking over his shoulder.

Also Medvedev's words could send a message to the world in general that it's open season on an ex t.v.celebrity for anyone with a grudge.........Just saying.

Putin has already unequivocally and unconditionally proved his humanism, but Medvedev's words about the physical elimination of Zelensky as a terrorist are an expression of the opinion of a significant part of Russian society and this must be taken into account.

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Путин уже однозначно и безусловно доказал свой гуманизм, однако слова Медведева о физическом устранении Зеленского, как террориста, являются выражением мнения значительной части Российского общества и это надо учитывать.

 

[youlik]

A thematic selection is emerging, which I would call - about ghouls. Ghouls are categorically different, some got their name from the developers, I called someone that way and not everyone can agree with my definition. The first ghoul is the most "safe", though deadly. I hope that further you will understand what I mean by "security".

In the Urals, the FPV drone "Ghoul" was developed for strikes against the enemy deep in the front

The representative of the manufacturer explained that the first batch was tested in the zone of a special military operation
MOSCOW, May 4. /tass/. The FPV drone (first-person view, "first-person view") "Ghoul" was developed in the Sverdlovsk region, it is designed for strikes deep in the front, including to prevent the supply of ammunition and the destruction of armored vehicles in closed positions. The first batch, partially created using 3D printers, has been tested in a combat zone, a representative of the manufacturing company told TASS on Thursday.

"The main task of our development is to strike the enemy at a tactical depth in order to isolate the combat zone. That is, we want to block the conditional square from the possibility of bringing ammunition, personnel and equipment to make the conduct of combat for the enemy as difficult and unbearable as possible. Another priority goal is tanks working on us from closed firing positions, which are hiding from our ATGM calculations (anti-tank guided missiles - approx. TASS) behind the folds of the terrain, the drone will be able to find such a target and also hit with a dive from a height," the agency interlocutor said.

He clarified that the drone can carry RPG-7 grenades, such as PG-7VL, RCG-3M hand-held anti-tank grenades, as well as high-explosive fragmentation charges made by the military directly at the front from epoxy glue and shot. The manufacturer preferred to "leave the tactical and technical characteristics of the drone as a surprise for the APU." "The first batch was tested in the zone of a special military operation, the drones performed well, now we are making changes to the base stations that relay the signal for the drone. We also produce them ourselves. The next batch will already be based on feedback from the military," the manufacturer added.

"It is difficult to answer the question of how we stand out from other Russian developments, since there are very few teams that develop such machines in our huge country. Specifically, we are currently solving the problem of full import substitution of video transmitters that are used in FPV drones, they are Chinese-made and are slowly moving into the deficit zone," the agency interlocutor said.

About production, financing and state support
The manufacturer added that some of the parts for the drone were made using 3D printers. "We are currently making antennas on the printer, partially housing elements. Rays (an integral part of the frame. - approx. TASS) we cut on CNC machines (numerical control) from fiberglass, the main elements of the body are cast by us with the technology of thermoplastics under pressure," he said.

According to him, while the production works in the interests of several divisions. "The project is completely non-commercial, we have not received any grants, all funds have been collected by subscribers of Telegram channels, including Alexander Kotsa, Andrey Medvedev, Sergey Shilov and Alexander Kharchenko, Vlad Lobaev, Dmitry Konanykhin, Maxim Cascade, Daniil Bezsonov and Evgeny Poddubny. And the administrators of the Telegram channel "Older than Edda", in addition to raising funds, were also responsible for tactical developments, the strategy of using the drone, without their combat experience, the "Ghoul" would not have turned out," the agency interlocutor said, specifying that the drone owes its name to "beautiful Russian fairy tales."

The manufacturer notes that it has not yet received support from federal, regional or municipal authorities.

"Workshops and people are needed. If Yekaterinburg allocated a room with good ventilation, it would already be a great achievement and help. We also need money for the purchase of complex components. If at least part of it were covered by irrevocable grants, then it would be easier for us to breathe and increase production," he answered the question about what measures of state support could help the enterprise in the development and expansion of production.

На Урале разработали FPV-дрон "Упырь" для ударов по противнику в глубине фронта

I've always treated the next character as a kind of chain dog. There are only two principles in such a creature: to bark the loudest and to make the owner happy. The organizational abilities of this character are clearly visible from the number of various kinds of accidents of space technology and the amount of stolen funds, for example, during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, when he was the head of Roscosmos. But the last statement of the character allows me to call him a ghoul.

To stop Ukraine's counteroffensive, it is necessary to use tactical nuclear weapons, — Rogozin (VIDEO)

To stop the counteroffensive of Ukraine, it is necessary to use tactical nuclear weapons (TNW), said the ex-head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin.

"We are waiting for the offensive, we are ready for it. We understand that it will be difficult, but no one is going to give up positions," Rogozin assured.

He noted that the best method, in his opinion, is the use of the "great equalizer — TNW" to destroy the enemy's offensive.

Tactical nuclear weapons are designed to be used in the case when the enemy has more equipment and conventional weapons, Rogozin recalled and explained that the strike should be applied to their clusters.

https://rusvesna.su/news/1683190195

The last ghouls of the current collection simply allowed everything human to dissolve into themselves and something inhuman took this place.

Ukrainian Marines who shot dead 12 residents of Mariupol will be tried in the DPR
The Prosecutor's office of the DPR sent to court the case of Ukrainian marines who killed 12 residents of Mariupol

MOSCOW, May 4 — RIA Novosti. The DPR prosecutor's office has sent a criminal case to the court against four Ukrainian marines accused of shooting 12 civilians in Mariupol, according to the Telegram channel of the Russian supervisory authority.
"The Prosecutor's Office of the Donetsk People's Republic has approved an indictment in a criminal case against servicemen of the 36th separate Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," the publication says.
The materials were sent to the Supreme Court of the DPR. Among the defendants in the trial are the commander of the topogeodetic department of the battery of control and artillery reconnaissance, Sergei Balitsky, the head of the radar platoon, Vladimir Kucherenko, the head of the sonometric reconnaissance platoon, Dmitry Latyshev, and the sonometrist-radiotelephonist of the platoon, Yevgeny Yakubenko.
According to investigators, from March 6 to March 15, 2022, the accused shot at 14 civilians on the territory of the Mariupol Metallurgical Combine named after Ilyich. 12 of them died from their injuries at the scene of the crime, two managed to hide.
They are charged under part 1 of Article 356 of the Russian Criminal Code ("Use of prohibited means and methods of warfare"), paragraphs "a", "g", "l" of part 2 of Article 105 of the Criminal Code ("Murder of two or more persons committed by an organized group, motivated by political, ideological hatred"), part 3 of Article 30, paragraphs "a", "g", "l" of part 2 of Article 105 of the Criminal Code ("Attempted murder of two or more persons committed by an organized group, motivated by political, ideological hatred").

В ДНР будут судить украинских морпехов, застреливших 12 жителей Мариуполя

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Вырисовывается тематическая подборка, которую я бы назвал- про упырей. Упыри категорически разные, какие то получили свое название от разработчиков, кого то я так назвал и не все могут согласиться с моим определением. Первый упырь наиболее "безопасный", хоть и смертоносный. Я надеюсь, что далее вы поймете что я имею ввиду, говоря о "безопасности".
К следующему персонажу я всегда относился как к своего рода цепному псу. В таком существе всего два принципа: гавкать громче всех и чтобы хозяин был доволен. Организаторские способности данного персонажа ясно видны из того количества разного рода аварий космической техники и количества украденных средств, например при строительстве космодрома Восточный, в бытность его руководителем Роскосмоса. А вот последнее заявление персонажа позволяет мне назвать его упырем.
Последние упыри нынешней подборки просто позволили раствориться в себе всему человеческому и это место заняло нечто нечеловеческое.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'I'm telling you, Ukraine will be burned to the ground.'

Ukrainian counteroffensive will have ‘deplorable consequences’ – Moscow

Russia’s deputy foreign minister has warned Kiev and the West that their planned counteroffensive will have “deplorable consequences”

www.rt.com

4 May, 2023

 

[Antony]

Just a short remark. Many experts stated and it was known that western weaponry would arrive in Ukraine in Spring. There were propositions to conduct an general assault before that. Again ‘we missed’ the time. And now, when everything arrived we are scratching our heads how to disrupt Ukrainian counteroffensive that even Rogozin states that using tactical nukes are the only option to stop them
Video in TG:

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t.me

That is what west wants us to do from the beginning of smo. Yesterdays ‘strange’ UAV attacks just pouring water on this mill. Coincidence or conspiracy?

 

[Adobe]

Russia Says US Behind Overnight Drone Attack On Oil Refinery​

"In a simultaneous blistering statement also aimed at Washington on Thursday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said the US and its allies are ultimately responsible for the actions of the Kiev regime."

"They destroyed the lawful government in Ukraine [in 2014], put crooks and bandits in charge, provided them with money and weapons, imbued them with a sense of absolute impunity and provided political cover and military support," Zakharova said, asserting further that Russia holds "Washington, London, and NATO in general" accountable for Ukrainian leadership's actions. But more and more of Moscow's "red lines" have been incrementally crossed, and so far it looks like the Kremlin has remained somewhat restrained. However, some are calling for going gloves off on "Zelensky and his clique".

"While all eyes were on the small drone attack against Kremlin buildings in Moscow yesterday, given Russian allegations of an assassination attempt against President Putin, a separate but very significant cross-border strike was reported in southern Russia overnight."

"Multiple drones targeted an oil refinery in southern Russia, resulting in a large fire. "Four drones were used in an attack on an oil refinery in the Krasnodar Region, where an oil storage reservoir caught fire on Thursday night," TASS reports. The Kremlin is blaming Washington and Kiev's Western backers for the cross-border operation."

"In the wake of this latest, the Russian Foreign Ministry vowed that "Moscow will quickly deal with Kiev's terrorist and subversive activities," according to Al Jazeera."

"But what's "new" about this attack on the oil refinery is that the Kremlin is very directly pointing the finger at the United States for helping the Ukrainians conduct the attack: "

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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Washington responsible for attack on Kremlin – Moscow​

Ukraine’s actions are coordinated and approved by the US, Putin’s spokesman has claimed

"The spokesman for President Vladimir Putin dismissed attempts by US and Ukrainian officials to “disown” Wednesday’s attack as “laughable,” insisting that “we know full well that decisions to carry out such terrorist actions are made not in Kiev, but in Washington.”

Washington responsible for attack on Kremlin – Moscow

Russian presidential spokesperson Dmitry Peskov claims Washington is ultimately responsible for the Ukrainian drone attack on the Kremlin

www.rt.com

 

[f1esk]

Just a short remark. Many experts stated and it was known that western weaponry would arrive in Ukraine in Spring. There were propositions to conduct an general assault before that. Again ‘we missed’ the time. And now, when everything arrived we are scratching our heads how to disrupt Ukrainian counteroffensive that even Rogozin states that using tactical nukes are the only option to stop them
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t.me

The link to the telegram channel does not work, because there by invitation.

My opinion.

It is difficult to conduct an assault when your assault troops have staged a meat grinder in Bakhmut and cannot afford more (PMC Wagner). Who's going to attack? The Russian Federation protects the lives of regular troops. Which dug in around the perimeter of the new Russian territories.

Rogozin is a PR project of himself. I think he was blown up in Donetsk because he was a fat stupid idiot - he had a feast in honor of his visit, thought he was in Hollywood? He has not yet proved or shown anything after he was kicked out of Roskosmos.

As for the drones that attacked the Kremlin.
There are no official statements. Official I consider someone like Putin. Putin remains silent. It is important to follow what he says. The rest of the voices, such as Medvedev or Peskov, serve one or another interest of corporate groups.

As for the assault before the arrival of Western weapons, the only option that seems right is to bomb the Polish Rzeszow airfield. The bulk of NATO equipment arrives there. You can discuss the consequences for all parties.

That is what west wants us to do from the beginning of smo. Yesterdays ‘strange’ UAV attacks just pouring water on this mill. Coincidence or conspiracy?

All that the Western elites want is the destruction of the Slavs (reduction in the number and conversion of those remaining into slavery). As you correctly said referring to Bismarck. Although I searched for this statement and did not find it. On the other hand, I am conducting my historical investigation into where Ukrainian nationalism originated and where Ukrainization came from.
Basically, I use historians of the Russian Empire before 1910 during the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and its possession over the territory of Galicia and Bukovina. And further, during World War II and the consequences for these regions. I hope I will do it, but it's a very big job.

I thought it would be right to write my opinion on your message, which seemed emotional to me.

 

[Antony]

The link to the telegram channel does not work, because there by invitation.

My opinion.

It is difficult to conduct an assault when your assault troops have staged a meat grinder in Bakhmut and cannot afford more (PMC Wagner). Who's going to attack? The Russian Federation protects the lives of regular troops. Which dug in around the perimeter of the new Russian territories.

Rogozin is a PR project of himself. I think he was blown up in Donetsk because he was a fat stupid idiot - he had a feast in honor of his visit, thought he was in Hollywood? He has not yet proved or shown anything after he was kicked out of Roskosmos.

As for the drones that attacked the Kremlin.
There are no official statements. Official I consider someone like Putin. Putin remains silent. It is important to follow what he says. The rest of the voices, such as Medvedev or Peskov, serve one or another interest of corporate groups.

As for the assault before the arrival of Western weapons, the only option that seems right is to bomb the Polish Rzeszow airfield. The bulk of NATO equipment arrives there. You can discuss the consequences for all parties.



All that the Western elites want is the destruction of the Slavs (reduction in the number and conversion of those remaining into slavery). As you correctly said referring to Bismarck. Although I searched for this statement and did not find it. On the other hand, I am conducting my historical investigation into where Ukrainian nationalism originated and where Ukrainization came from.
Basically, I use historians of the Russian Empire before 1910 during the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and its possession over the territory of Galicia and Bukovina. And further, during World War II and the consequences for these regions. I hope I will do it, but it's a very big job.

I thought it would be right to write my opinion on your message, which seemed emotional to me.

F1esk,
Couple of notes on what you have said.
Rogozin, Peskov, Medvedev and may be even Prigozhin - all are ‘horns’ of corporate (meaning oligarch) groups? All have been or still are senior officials in government. Were for many years /still are responsible for industrial/military/space complex/government as the whole/propaganda before/during smo-you consider them as ‘nobody’? So who then is running these spheres now? One person? no sharing of responsibilities then for the failed vital programs for the 20+years? Ok.
If not Wagner, as you say, one simple question, considering that officials state that we basically suffer no losses for a year in that butchery, where is our 2nd best army (1 mln bayonets at the start of smo) in the world?...questions, questions...

P.s. Bismark, was a diplomat in Tsar’s Russia, he respected our country and people. There are many his generous statements on the topic. Look for them...

 

[Joe]

Anyone else notice the two guys walking up the ladder on the dome of the Kremlin senate building just as the drone explodes?

 

[Aeneas]

Anyone else notice the two guys walking up the ladder on the dome of the Kremlin senate building just as the drone explodes?

I saw that also on some Ukrainian channel or perhaps if was the MSM. It would not appear to be too strange in connection with the preparations for the victory parade, though it did happen at 2am, right? Is the picture from the same time as the drone or earlier?

 

[youlik]

Ukrainians shot down a drone in the afternoon over the center of Kiev. Half a day they were happy how successfully they crashed the Russian device, and then it turned out that the device was their own, local. And not some kind of fury or leleka, but a whole bayraktar. Now they say he lost control. In short, everything goes according to the traditional scheme - "peremoga" smoothly flows into "zrada"

"PEREMOGA" TURNED INTO "ZRADA": KIEV SHOT DOWN ITS OWN DRONE OVER ZELENSKY'S OFFICE
In Kiev, the whole evening they are discussing the story of a drone shot down almost over Zelensky's office. It turned out that he was Ukrainian.

Note that it is usually difficult to understand by the silhouette of a drone what kind of model it is flying in the air. Many drones are built on similar principles. However, as the telegram channel "Explains Readovka" notes, by the flattened silhouette, three blades and a retractable landing gear, it can be understood that it was the Turkish Bayraktar. Such drones are in service with the Ukrainian army, but not Russia.

Another good question: why launch a drone during the day when it is perfectly visible? Moreover, it is unclear why send a drone to the office of the President of Ukraine at a time when Zelensky is heroically waiting out the panic in the Netherlands. This was reported by almost all the media since the morning.

In general, Kiev pulled off another inept hoax. "Peremoga" in the Network very quickly turned into "zradoy". It turned out very quickly that the drone was Ukrainian. And the Ukrainians themselves understood this.

"Перемога" обернулась "зрадой": Киев сбил свой же дрон над офисом Зеленского

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Украинцы сбили беспилотник днем над центром Киева. Полдня радовались, как успешно они грохнули русский аппарат, а потом оказалось, что аппарат то свой, местный. И не какая нибудь там фурия или лелека, а целый байрактар. Теперь говорят, что он потерял управление. Короче все идет по традиционной схеме- "перемога" плавно перетекает в "зраду"

 

[N1mTzo]

What information? Where? Can we please get a detail or two?

For details, you better contact Evgeny Viktorovich personally.
As for the FSO, this information was voiced by well-known Russian journalist Andrei Karaulov.

The forming core of today's Wagner Group, Slavonic Corps, founded in 2013, consisted of about 270 former military and special service/intelligence officers. Utkin himself was in GRU and involved in its special operations.

I also read Wikipedia about the "Wagners". A lot of nonsense is written there, especially in the Russian version. Though it's probably even better for a secret military company.

 

[Navigator]

In a very disturbing video, viewer discretion is adviced, the leader of the Wagner PMC, Prigozhin, shows the bodies of fallen Wagner soldiers while demanding ammunition from the military leadership of Russia. Even naming Shoigu as responsible for the deaths of the soldiers.

This is of tectonic consequences IMO. That could prompt serious changes for the SMO.

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