Oh well, I never thought my objection to the usage of the word "war" mentioned in this forum would get me into that much trouble?
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That's incredible. You really think that it was your objection to the "war" that we are all commenting on? No. It is your rudeness and belligerence that we are talking about. I thought you were able to see that. I guess I may be wrong.
No, see, I objectified against the usage of the word "war"
The way I read it, you didn't object to the use of the word war at all, rather you have claimed that there is no war.
That would be a difficult opinion to explain because it's obviously wrong.
More cannon fodder.
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Yes, i think they said "all is one" which is just a different formulation within this context.
Sure, Its all military style on "need to know" base and very fewin the highest ranks know partially whats "really going on".
Doesnt look like it. They gave the perfect excuse to open the WEF/NWO endgame of shutting down commerce/industry and introducing food shortages. Just when Euro and USD started to go into "serious inflation" mode.
The sanctions will hit russia a lot less than europe/germany. Germany is basicly committing suicide as we speak. Together with the other european states. Only that germany had been the heart/powerhouse of europe. Germany dies, europe dies. Already half dead anyway but now the coffin is about to be sealed.
Like someone said in a video posted in the "food shortages" thread here in this form: "Its amazing to watch a country putting the gun at its head and pull the trigger".
Russian Tactics In Occupied Ukrainian Cities: Russian Troops Entered Slavutich
On March 26th, Russian forces entered the city of Slavutich in the Kiev region, located 30 kilometers to the West...
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RUSSIAN TACTICS IN OCCUPIED UKRAINIAN CITIES: RUSSIAN TROOPS ENTERED SLAVUTICH
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On March 26th, Russian forces entered the city of Slavutich in the Kiev region, located 30 kilometers to the West of Chernihiv.
On the eve, the city was surrounded and blockaded by the Russian troops. The administration of the Kiev region confirmed that the city of Slavutich was “isolated”. Clashes were reported on the western outskirts. Several fortified positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed but no strikes have being carried out on the city.
Late on March 25, the mayor of the city confirmed that the Russian armed forces attacked a checkpoint of the AFU in Slavutich.
He added that the city was blocked and it is impossible to leave it.
Despite the fact that Russian forces have been present in the region since the first days of military operations in Ukraine and they were deployed on the vicinity of Slavutich, there was no mass evacuation from the city. Instead of securing the humanitarian corridors for civilians, local Ukrainian authorities have banned residents from leaving their homes, as the Ukrainian snipers were working in the city when the Russian military already approached Slavutich.
Despite the hysteria spread by the media showing the allegedly barbaric military actions of the Russian military in Ukrainian cities, local authorities realize that if the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not use residential areas to start bloody street battles in cities, numerous civilian casualties and catastrophic destruction can be avoided. Despite the presence of the Russian armed forces, the city administrations continue to function normally, while receiving humanitarian support from Russia. This was the case in all Ukrainian cities and towns in the eastern regions of Ukraine and around the capital that are currently under the Russian control.
On March 26, Russian forces entered Slavutich. No clashes were reported in the city. No civilian facilities were damaged.
In order to avoid any casualties, the mayor of the city agreed for negotiations. On the other hand, Ukrainian media rushed to declare that he was kidnapped.
The mayor of Slavutych, who has already been claimed assassinated by bloodthirsty Russians, appealed to the population. He confirmed that he was not in captivity, but held negotiations. He said that the local Ukrainian administration continues to work and now has to coordinate several issues, such as evacuation, with Russian troops.
He declared that local civilians could leave the city, and the delivery of humanitarian aid from Russia will be organized.
In order to demilitarize the city, the population must hand over machine guns and military weapons. Weapons should be withdrawn from all civilian facilities, an inventory should be made.
After the city is demilitarized, Russian forces will leave the city and only checkpoints will be established on the roads leading to Slavutich.
While the AFU have left Slavutich almost without fighting, civilians became the main force for the Ukrainian “media counter offensive”.
A rally was organized. Kiev officials and the media are distributing encouraging videos showing brave Ukrainian patriots protesting in the streets, declaring their fierce resistance to the Russian occupiers. They encourage people all over the country to provoke the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the streets.
In fact, Ukrainian flags are flying all over Slavutych, the footage proves that the Russian army does not react to peaceful rallies until the protesters cross the red lines. Encouraging civilians to fight the Russian army, the Kiev regime is waiting for new bloody shots from the streets of Ukrainian cities to once again show the alleged brutality of the Russian aggressors.
According to local sources and previous statements by local authorities, Ukrainian snipers were deployed in Slavutich. In the current conditions, they may have the only goal to provoke the Russian military to open fire during another “peaceful demonstration”.
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This is a conservative assessment of what might happen as a result of the sanctions and Russia's decision about rubles for gas. In some ways, a ' best case scenario' in a corrupt but relatively sane world where people in power want to keep the game going.
I think this might just be too optimistic when signs point to an intentional reset and collapse. The deal for LNG to be sent to Europe, for example, everybody knows it will not be near enough or logistically viable short term. I will keep growing my food stockpile!
If you flip over the chessboard because you were going to lose anyway, how likely is it that the pieces will fall on the board the way you want them to?
They will use Russia as a scapegoat, but instead, the masses will likely turn against them.
However the reality creators see it, none of this is part of a grand, well-thought-out plan. It's all rather foolish and stupid.
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I would not be so sure about this. In both cases, Russia was obliged to act as they did, but this does not demonstrates that Russia is playing there game. To me, Russia stepped out of their plans, broke the ranks, the PTB wanted the control over all countries but they finally have to limit to the ones they already control and may start to understand that if they continue they'll simply destroy their capacities to face the countries which did not bend to their dominance.
A good question i already thought about asking to C's, but that we should try to answer together first is the following :
Does Putin and Russia act in direct opposition to the 4D STS ? (or are they still under their control)
Maybe question could be improved, or followed by other sub questions ... ?If i'm asked about, let's say that I have the feeling that the answer is "Yes".
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I don't think the question is framed correctly. 4D is another level of reality and STS is a state of existence. If a 2D creature could talk and asked "Does so and so (a fellow 2D creature) act in direct opposition to the 3D STS?" I don't think the question would make sense? I would ask, what do you mean when you say 3D STS? All the creatures in 3D who are STS? Do all these STS creatures act in unison? etc
Почему Украина не объявляет России войну
Даже сейчас Киев не хочет лишаться денег от прокачки газа
Олег АДАМОВИЧ
Боец территориальной обороны на позициях под Киевом.
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Во вторник Владимир Зеленский отправил в Раду законопроект о продлении военного положения еще на 30 дней. При этом, по закону «Об обороне Украины», президент может и официально объявить нам войну, вряд ли парламент сейчас откажет. Но Киев пока сохраняет формальные отношения с Москвой. Почему так происходит, помог понять декан факультета мировой политики МГУ Андрей Сидоров.
ДЕЛО В СТАТУСЕ…
- Юридическое начало войны (военное положение и состояние войны – это разные вещи) сразу меняет статус страны. Например, по международному праву, запрещается поставлять оружие воюющим государствам. Но пока Россия проводит спецоперацию, а Украина лишь ввела военное положение, то мы официально не воюем. И это значит, что Запад может легально передавать Киеву те же противотанковые ракеты, - объяснил эксперт.
Формальное сохранение мирного статуса помогает Киеву не только с поставками оружия. Сидоров считает, что так украинские власти работают над своим образом жертвы. По крайней мере, в глазах Европы и Америки. Пока Зеленский ограничивается военным положением, он может говорить, что не давит на Россию.
Зеленский отправил в Раду законопроект о продлении военного положения еще на 30 дней.
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…И В ДЕНЬГАХ ЗА ГАЗ
- Есть еще один важный фактор: транзит газа в Европу. Сейчас он идет по трубе через Украину полным ходом, но после объявления войны прокачку придется остановить. Ведь между Москвой и Киевом тогда не может быть отношений. Украина обязана будет национализировать все наше имущество, - рассказал декан факультета.
К национализации дело, кстати, и так постепенно идет. Вот уже Киев объявил, что забирает себе все российские вагоны, находящиеся на территории Незалежной.
Но газ – штука совсем особая. Голубое топливо прокачивается в Западную Европу, и ссориться с замерзающей Австрией, Германией, Венгрией никто не хочет. Особенно Украина, ведь она получает от них помощь, и отправляет в эти страны беженцев. Да и самому Киеву наш газ тоже нужен. Пусть он покупает его не у России напрямую, а в ЕС по рыночным ценам, но происхождение-то от этого не меняется.
В Газпроме уже сообщили, что загрузка украинской трубы сейчас высокая. В сутки прокачивается больше 100 млн. кубометров. В Европе снова устанавливается безветренная погода, поэтому спрос на газ растет, чтобы компенсировать недостаток зеленой энергии.
- Киев рассчитывает и на платежи от России за прокачку. Если же транзит остановится, то и денег не станет, - заметил Сидоров. – Правда, вся остальная торговля (оборот в 12,2 млрд. долларов в прошлом году) сейчас уже умерла.
Эксперт добавил, что официальное объявление войны заставит все производства Украины перейти на армейские нужды. Перестанут действовать многие законы. Власти начнут национализацию гражданского транспорта… Зеленский на все это пока не готов.
Несмотря на боевые действия, европейские клиенты получают российский газ через территорию Украины.
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НЕ ХОТЯТ ЗВАТЬ ОДКБ
Чрезвычайный и полномочный посланник в отставке Василий Корчмарь рассказал, что Киев не объявляет войну России еще и для того, чтобы мы не могли позвать союзников.
- В договоре о коллективной безопасности стран СНГ написано, что если одна из стран ОДКБ подвергается агрессии со стороны другого государства, то все государства выступают в защиту. Поэтому Киеву это не выгодно, - рассказал дипломат.
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Why Ukraine does not declare war on Russia
Even now, Kyiv does not want to lose money from pumping gas
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Territorial defense fighter in positions near Kiev.
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On Tuesday, Volodymyr Zelensky sent a bill to the Rada to extend martial law for another 30 days. At the same time, according to the law "On the Defense of Ukraine", the president can officially declare war on us, it is unlikely that the parliament will refuse now. But Kyiv still maintains formal relations with Moscow. Andrey Sidorov, Dean of the Faculty of World Politics at Moscow State University, helped me understand why this is happening.
IT'S ABOUT STATUS...
- The legal start of the war (martial law and the state of war are different things) immediately changes the status of the country. For example, under international law, it is forbidden to supply weapons to warring states. But while Russia is conducting a special operation, and Ukraine has only introduced martial law, we are not officially at war. And this means that the West can legally transfer the same anti-tank missiles to Kiev,” the expert explained.
The formal preservation of peaceful status helps Kiev not only with the supply of weapons. Sidorov believes that this is how the Ukrainian authorities work on their image of the victim. At least in the eyes of Europe and America. As long as Zelensky is limited to martial law, he can say that he does not put pressure on Russia.
Zelensky sent a bill to the Rada to extend martial law for another 30 days.
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… AND IN MONEY FOR GAS
- There is another important factor: gas transit to Europe. Now it is going through the pipe through Ukraine at full speed, but after the declaration of war, the pumping will have to be stopped. After all, there can be no relations between Moscow and Kiev then. Ukraine will be obliged to nationalize all our property, - said the dean of the faculty.
By the way, things are gradually moving towards nationalization. Kyiv has already announced that it is taking over all the Russian carriages located on the territory of Nezalezhnaya.
But gas is a very special thing. Blue fuel is pumped to Western Europe, and no one wants to quarrel with freezing Austria, Germany, Hungary. Especially Ukraine, because it receives help from them and sends refugees to these countries. And Kiev itself also needs our gas. Let him buy it not from Russia directly, but in the EU at market prices, but the origin does not change from this.
Gazprom has already reported that the loading of the Ukrainian pipe is now high. More than 100 million cubic meters are pumped per day. Windless weather is set again in Europe, so demand for gas is rising to make up for the lack of green energy.
- Kyiv is also counting on payments from Russia for pumping. If the transit stops, then there will be no money, - Sidorov noted. - True, the rest of the trade (turnover of 12.2 billion dollars last year) is now dead.
The expert added that the official declaration of war would force all production in Ukraine to switch to military needs. Many laws will cease to operate. The authorities will begin the nationalization of civil transport... Zelensky is not ready for all this yet.
Despite the hostilities, European customers receive Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine.
Photo: REUTERS
DON'T WANT TO CALL CSTO
Retired Envoy Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Vasily Korchmar said that Kyiv does not declare war on Russia also so that we cannot call allies.
- The Collective Security Treaty of the CIS states says that if one of the CSTO countries is subjected to aggression by another state, then all states come out in defense. Therefore, it is not profitable for Kiev,” the diplomat said.
Почему Украина не объявляет России войну
Даже сейчас Киев не хочет лишаться денег от прокачки газа
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