Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

All interesting questions, aragorn, and these big-picture related questions are maddening indeed since we don't seem to be allowed to see that far behind the curtain. (Or up the fat lady's skirt! LOL!!)

The C's mentioned (hell, I better look it up - see below) a Quorum or some sort of overseer group that seems to be comprised of multiple actors in the grand chess game, but, the implication as to what restrictions or what types of power politics/rules play out at that level are unclear. We boots on the ground are left with conjecture, implications, PSYOPS and reverse-engineering of seemingly contradictory vectors of action and obfuscation. And don't forget to throw in a healthy dose of random chance, ignorant buffoonery and blind luck. And no further mention of this Quorum has been forthcoming to my recollection. I could be wrong.

"Osirians originated the Freemasons in 5633 B.C. 33rd degree is still same. They are Overseers of the status of the Quorum, a Deeper knowledge organization. Totally secret to your kind as of yet. Very important with regard to your future/Earth changes. Quorum is mostly alien; Illuminati is mostly human. They Meet; two halves of whole.

The Quorum is a group with advanced knowledge and abilities, but their objectives and intent are to preserve Free Will for all, while the objectives of the Brotherhood are to manipulate, dominate and control others."

Not sure if that helps but it sounds over-arching and big picturish enough. I suppose preserving the Free Will for all includes preserving the free will of the Brotherhood to keep trying to restrict the free will for all. Quite a Catch 22.
 
So as far as Putin fits in? He seems to be fighting for free will. Sure, it may play into some of the plans of the NWO but that's how chess goes sometimes. On some level it boils down to "Are you willing to fight for your soul when your back is against a wall? Are you willing to resist domination for the sake of free will?" On the real world political level, turning the other cheek becomes suicide when you realize your pearls are cast before swine. Sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't but you still have to make a choice at some level and live with that choice. It's called fate. I don't doubt the west has plenty of weaponry up their sleeve. Otherwise, why would they be giving the out of date arsenal out like after dinner mints? Another strategy is to get your opponent to show his hand. That could be going on too. The Western Snake is not above a premeditated preemptive strike at the drop of a hat if they think they can wipe out the Bear. Is Corbin tipping his own hand by subscribing to the 'we're all doomed/they are all crooks/it's hopeless' point of view?

IDK - it's like playing bridge with 2 decks trying to hold 26 cards or maybe Calvinball with multiple Calvins.
 
aragorn said:
Lately, I've been thinking about something regarding the battle/conflict between Russia and the Empire of Lies that may seem a bit childish, but newertheless, it's been on my mind. That has to do with the concept that has been alluded to in various places about how the "hidden technology that is available for the real rulers of our world is decades/centuries ahead of what is publicly known/used". I think that the C's have also commented on this. I come to think, for instance, about 9/11 and how there was maybe some quite advanced technology involved (and that's 20 years ago). Then there's the idea that was presented in one of the C sessions of inducing heart attacks in targeted individuals by using satellites in some fashion. And so on...

The Russians now have their hypersonic missiles, and other advanced 'normal' weaponry. If it would be true that the US would be, at some deep level, in possession of some amazing and super advanced technology – why would they mind these Russian advances?

So, my question is, if the real (and evil) rulers possess this amazing technology, why don't they use it to stop 'Russian aggression' and e.g. target Putin giving him a heart attack? Perhaps at the utmost top-level (Consortium) they have rules of when and how to allow
'the children' the use of such things? Or, do the Russians have ways to defend themselves against these things, and as a 'mutual interest' these things are not introduced in the battle field because of not revealing their existence to the public?

I'm reluctant to agree with the idea of "Putin just being part of the cabal, playing his assigned role", as e.g. James Corbett (to my surprise) seems to think. I can't see why they (US, GB, Russia) would go through all the trouble with the whole Ukraine thing if they could just impose the things they want together.
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„There is one World Government”. If they are not stopping all of this then it means that they want this situation or even created it. It’s not about stopping Russia. It’s about creating suffering. Food. At the end normal people suffers..
 
syldan said:
Something dosen't sit right with all these countries, like Canada sending all their weapons to Ugraine (sorry my mispelling) are we being set-up for a foreign take-over? April drop-dead date? Sure seems like it! And the end of the City on the Hill. If I were and lucky I am not. In a position to make big difference, I would blast the Pentagoons to smithereens and walk on! It is not besides whishfull thinking that Amerdica should get nuked.Also remember that nukes can also leave no trace! Just look at Hiroshima today - all we learned is false. They can nuke and no washout afterwards, all we believe is a sham?!
Love from quèbec.
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How could nuclear explosions do more long-term damage than all the intentional/unintentional poisoning of us all and by chemical, GMO life? syldan, your saying nuclear scares are unfounded. I'd like to know more about that!

Being set up for foreign takeover. WHO taking over pandemic management, pandemic management seems the basic way of life now, with the new scares.

Wherever the Green and anti-agriculture agendas prevail, they disable current society - further....

The agreement with China that Chinese troups can deploy on Canadian soil to protect assets with no notification to local authorities? Sure it's reciprocal but don't you get the feeling Canada is not going to deploy military on Chinese soil?

Quebec already saw UN troups showing up at a protest in the last year (or two years) as well as the riot police in Ottawa.

Look no further than the gov't response to the Freedom Convoy.

Foreigners at least in Ontario have been showing up at farmers' doors with cheque book in hand saying name your price. One local farmer as he left the farm after 88 years living and working there refused the offers and sold at much lower price to neighbours. How often would that be the case?

There's that CBC podcast, 'Somebody Knows Something', with investigation of unsolved crimes. The enrollment in PALS gun licence courses is off the charts here. Somebody knows or suspects something.

Then there was the firing on Belgorod last night. Reported by Reuters within minutes. Dr. Strangelove, what a great movie. Apparently no need to blast the Pentagoons as they will take care of it themselves! I don't see it going that far, BTW.

Everything pales before massive Earth and cosmic processes underway now. We can pick our way through reality here thennote the viewpoint of Ra that only those things matter which will make a difference in 10,000 years.

The Buddha said (so it's reported), what to do when confronted with evil, one supports the good.
 
aragorn said:
as e.g. James Corbett (to my surprise) seems to think.
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I'm highly skeptical of Corbett. To him, everyone in a position of power is automatically a "bad guy" who's in on the globalist agenda in some way. It's a naive, simplistic way to view the situation. He does get a lot of stuff right, but I think he's got cognitive limits that don't allow him to take his analyses past a certain level of nuance. Seems like a bit of a "gatekeeper" for the conspiracy crowd.

Regarding "secret tech", if we consider the possibility of an entire advanced underground civilization, then it seems that controlling the awareness of humanity is the real name of the game otherwise they could just enhance the surface infrastructure to any desired level. It might be that the higher-level STS forces only wish the more advanced technologies to be available once the public has been sufficiently indoctrinated in materialism, atheism, or other restrictive modes of left-brain thought (and no doubt suitably depopulated).

Of course, when spiritually-aware countries like Russia are resisting the indoctrination agenda and utilising their natural human creativity as a source of invention, 4D STS need to keep the psychopathic elites "one step ahead" so to speak, and this is probably where we get into grey areas like the Consortium and Quorum etc, where there are likely competing agendas for how to manage both the non-psychopathic and psychopathic political elites in a situation where public awareness continues to grow. After all, 4D STS doesn't want the non-psychopathic elites to gain the upper hand, but also doesn't want to risk a Frankenstein scenario where their creation ends up killing their creator.

And then there's the influence of 4D STO, who are likely helping out where Free Will allows. So imo, it's most likely that Russia has developed its own protective technologies, but like many technologies used in war, won't be declassified for years or unless other circumstances permit. The psychopathic elites could be trying to implement more advanced technologies to get around this, but the population might be insufficiently "prepared" at this point, leaving the elites open to the "risk" of creating an explosion of awareness if they deploy such technologies without due caution.

In short, the whole scenario is super complex and I tend to think that if there was an "easy way out" for the psychopathic elites via a tech advantage, they would have taken it by now. Perhaps this is one aspect of what the C's meant regarding the "levelling of the playing field"? FWIW!
 
The Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Paris had violated the confidentiality of talks between Russian and French Presidents Vladimir Putin and Emanuel Macron, noting that the entire conversation was recorded and filmed by journalists.

Confidentiality of Putin-Macron talks violated by French side — Russian diplomat​

3 JUL, 2022
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova noted that Paris had eight years to "demonstrate marvels of its professionalism" while working on the Minsk agreements within the Normandy format

MOSCOW, July 3. /TASS/. Paris has violated the confidentiality of talks between Russian and French Presidents, Vladimir Putin and Emmanuel Macron, which reveals France’s approaches to diplomacy in principle, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Sunday.

"When calls at the top level are made <…>, naturally, it is a confidential story, <…> naturally, these are talks behind closed doors. It turned out that a couple of months ago, when Macron called the Russian president, <…> the entire conversation was recorded by journalists, who were filming it. <…> This is an example that they interpret the word ‘diplomacy’ this very way," she said in an interview with the Voskresny Vecher (Sunday Evening) program on the Rossiya-1 television channel, commenting on French film director Guy Lagache‘s Un President, l’Europe et la guerre (President, Europe and the war) documentary about Macron’s steps toward the settlement of the Ukrainian conflict.

She noted that Paris had eight years to "demonstrate marvels of its professionalism" while working on the Minsk agreements within the Normandy format. "Zero, as you’ve seen," she said.

According to Zakharova, France is attributing diplomatic functions to the instruments that have nothing to do with diplomacy that its why its foreign policy measures turn out to be ineffective. "For eight year, no effort has been spared not to let the side called the ‘Kiev regime’ implement the Minsk agreements. The Ukrainian side was been pandered to not to let the peace scenario be implemented," she said, adding that now no one can expect the French side to maintain confidentiality.

Lagache’s documentary was shown by France 2 TV on Thursday. The film focuses on Macron’s diplomatic efforts toward setting the Ukrainian crisis, including his talks with the Russian president and other leaders.
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The first 15 minutes are about Ukraine.
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I don't know if they live up to their ideal, but it is a mission statement after all.
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2. Will the green agenda come apart with the war in Ukraine?
Here is a small experiment that just might symbolize a move towards more realism and a recognition of the underlying facts.

Take the Ukrainian flag, that this spring has hung over the official buildings in many EU countries. Next, look up the colour codes for the two colours used in the Ukrainian flag.
Ukraine Flag Colors - Flag Color - Hex, rgb, cmyk and PANTONE values says:

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Now, using Color Mixer Online | 10015 Tools, watch what happen when you mix these two colours together:

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You got a green colour, right, though it is a bit of a military or hunting green. But if the deeper goal of the green agenda is depopulation, then even that is meaningful.

I don't know if the green agenda will come apart with Ukraine, but it is certainly being stress tested.
 
BHelmet said:
All interesting questions, aragorn, and these big-picture related questions are maddening indeed since we don't seem to be allowed to see that far behind the curtain.
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Interesting questions, indeed! I also thought about it on and off over the last couple of months and I basically think that there is a lot of information and nuance we are not aware of in regards to those raised questions. I also think it is likely a very complex story, as Ryan pointed out:

Ryan said:
In short, the whole scenario is super complex and I tend to think that if there was an "easy way out" for the psychopathic elites via a tech advantage, they would have taken it by now.
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A British paper reported allegedly, though there is no hard proof, this was from TG channel
There is no unity in NATO regarding Russia The British newspaper The Sunday Times noted that the alliance is divided into three camps - "hawks", "pigeons" and "ostriches".

The first category included Poland and other countries that believe that it is necessary to return Donbass and Crimea under the control of Ukraine, as well as to deal a crushing blow to Russia.

“Pigeons" are traditionally supporters of peace. Countries that would agree to the withdrawal of Russian troops to positions before February 24, having accepted the status of the Crimea, the DPR and the LPR. An official from one of the Scandinavian countries said that "such a deal would not be fair, but it is practical."

“Ostriches", according to the newspaper, do not pay too much attention to the Ukrainian crisis, they are focused on internal problems. This group includes the states of Southern Europe.
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The above might be a clue as to who would fold quickly in the case of a shock and awe event. The EU would not necessarily survive long after a US/NATO collapse.
 
Cosmos said:
Interesting questions, indeed! I also thought about it on and off over the last couple of months and I basically think that there is a lot of information and nuance we are not aware of in regards to those raised questions. I also think it is likely a very complex story, as Ryan pointed out:
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I have opinion about that and mostly agree with you. First of all I think that conflict is going on few fields at least, not only on our 3D reality. Second, there should be some balance preserved. If such super tech will be fully possessed by psycho what a choice will be left for others? It means the future will be fixed and simply cannot be in that way. I think they are consequences that prohibits using such weapon to do significant moves. Or total reality created by psycho brings no benefits on higher levels (I mean it is useful to create some controlled mess but give them FULL options is disaster even for higher bad ass), or they want to preserve such state for broader strategy, or there are phenomena which we can compare to using nuclear bombs.

Nevertheless I think that being slave by own choice it is more "delightful" for them than by force...
 
I believe we are between a rock and a hard place. Yes there are populations underground. Likely coming overground every day, yet they blend in without surface people noticing any thing? We are being exercised in something we do not know?! We need to hold hands and create an energy that will show force and determination! If I exchange my pleasure against your grenade, will I make a difference? That is as far as I can see where we stand!
 
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