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I doubt that would have caused it to crash. Maybe a "dump and burn"?

Alternativamente, al ver los aviones muy cerca, un operador tomó el control del dron (que hasta entonces estaba en piloto automático) e intentó algunas "maniobras evasivas" que no funcionaron.

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There are several hypotheses.
It could be a destruction tactic in which missiles are not used, the drone is "urinated" with fuel so that the fire of the aircraft's engine itself causes a self-insertion or this spilled fuel can also be ignited, by making the engines of a plane come closer to the drone enough to start a fire.
These drones could be participating in the attacks against the Crimea in a certain way by providing assistance and Russia came with its Su-27 to prevent this or it was simply a provocation.
This is already more speculative, but the drone could have carried out a suicide maneuver on purpose in which it lost control, all this matter could serve to distract attention from the banking collapse that is taking place in the United States and in turn the banking collapse could be used as an excuse to reduce aid to Ukraine and point to this factor as the cause of a possible catastrophe in Backmuth.
 
If you damage the prop, the drone is finished. That the propulsion from the turbine and that drone only has one, unlike passenger planes that can normally land on one engine if the props get damaged on another one.

I think the "Russian jet damaged the drone prop and the plane was also damaged in the encounter" as narrated by the Pentagon is probably nonsense in the same old 'Russia is losing even when it's winning' gambit the US has been using for the past year (or more). I mean, what are we meant to think, that the Russian jet pilot flew the nose or wing of the Su-27 into the prop?? Unlikely.
 
I think the "Russian jet damaged the drone prop and the plane was also damaged in the encounter" as narrated by the Pentagon is probably nonsense in the same old 'Russia is losing even when it's winning' gambit the US has been using for the past year (or more). I mean, what are we meant to think, that the Russian jet pilot flew the nose or wing of the Su-27 into the prop?? Unlikely.

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UPDATE:​

The Russian Defense Ministry reported:

On the morning of March 14 this year, means of the airspace control of the Russian Aerospace Forces detected an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle flying over the Black Sea near the Crimean Peninsula in the direction of the State Border of the Russian Federation.

The flight of the unmanned aerial vehicle was carried out with the transponders turned off in violation of the boundaries of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation, of which all users of international airspace were informed and information on which was officially published in accordance with international standards.

In order to identify the violator, fighters from the air defense forces on duty were lifted into the air. As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9.30 (Moscow time), the MQ-9 UAV went into an uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface.

The Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to the home airfield.

Wonder what they mean by sharp maneuvering.
 
I think the "Russian jet damaged the drone prop and the plane was also damaged in the encounter" as narrated by the Pentagon is probably nonsense in the same old 'Russia is losing even when it's winning' gambit the US has been using for the past year (or more). I mean, what are we meant to think, that the Russian jet pilot flew the nose or wing of the Su-27 into the prop?? Unlikely.
I think they caused the engine to stall by dumping fuel in front of the drone or maybe used the 30mm cannon to hit the prop, either one could down the drone.

Russia already recovered the wreckage from the Black Sea, so they’ll be exploiting the electronics.
 
FWIW, there are reports that the drone flew with it's transponders turned off heading towards Russian borders. From my days in the AirForce, that was enough to shot first and ask questions later!
Whatever happens to this drone, I think it has been asking for a long time, and secondly, it should become a "good tradition" and it would be desirable to extend this tradition to Poseidons, Centry, etc. reconnaissance vehicles flying near the borders of Russia. The owners of the fallen drone do not hesitate to officially declare that they are transmitting intelligence to Ukraine, while, like a "priest at matins," they talk about their non-participation in the conflict. What prevents Russia from promptly declaring the area of air defense exercises, the territory where the scout enters and on this basis influence the scout?
Today's topic is the lies and hypocrisy of the West towards Russia.
Episode 1 (this is only for today, if anyone doesn't know. In fact the number would be somewhere around 100500)
British representative to the UN Eckersley spoke in Russian to prove that he was not a Russophobe
UN, 14 Mar — RIA Novosti. The political coordinator of the British permanent mission, Fergus Eckersley, spoke in Russian at a meeting of the UN Security Council to prove that London does not promote Russophobia.

"We are not Russophobes, we have historical relations between our countries, we fought together in two world wars. Russia's rich cultural heritage is deeply respected in our country. I myself have been studying the Russian language, its history and wonderful literature for seven years," the diplomat said.

Then, in English, he said that London does not want "Russia to collapse," but on the contrary, wants it to be a successful state.
Last October, a group of 11 countries made a joint statement to the Human Rights Council (HRC) The UN, in which it condemned discrimination against Russians and the Russian-speaking population in some states.
The document was signed by Russia, Belarus, Bolivia, China, Ethiopia, Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Syria and Venezuela.
Представитель Британии в ООН заговорил по-русски

It is necessary to insert only one phrase into the statement of this figure so that it turns into the truth. The West wants Russia to prosper only under its leadership and full control.
Episode 2
Zakharova called the West's words about the exemptions from the sanctions of Russian products a lie
The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry stressed that the deal is directly related to the Russia-UN memorandum on the promotion of domestic fertilizers and food to world markets
MOSCOW, March 14. /tass/. The West's promises to withdraw food and fertilizers from sanctions against the Russian Federation in the context of the grain deal are "outright lies." This is stated in the response of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova to a question from the media, distributed on Tuesday.

"Without concrete progress in solving these systemic problems, all the oaths of Westerners about humanitarian exemptions from their sanctions, assurances of commitment to global food security and expressions of support for the efforts of the UN Secretary General are nothing more than deliberate guile and outright lies," she said.

Hypocritical actions of the West
According to her, the West had no doubt that the grain deal would take place according to the scenario when Russian exports are blocked, and the export of grain from Ukraine continues to bring profit to Kiev, which, among other things, goes to pay for arms supplies.

Zakharova also pointed out that the deal is directly related to the Russia-UN memorandum on the promotion of domestic fertilizers and food to world markets.

"No less hypocritical are the statements made by Washington again that Russian agricultural exports are not subject to unilateral sanctions by the United States and its satellites. In reality, the situation is exactly the opposite. And the Secretary General of UNCTAD, who heads the UN Working Group, fully faced this reality (the UN Conference on Trade and Development - approx. TASS) Rebekah Greenspan, whom [UN Secretary General] Antonio Guterres instructed to work on the implementation of the Russia-UN memorandum," the diplomat continued.

She also noted the lack of progress in reconnecting the Rosselkhoznadzor to the SWIFT system, in resuming the supply of agricultural machinery and their spare parts to the Russian Federation, lifting restrictions on insurance and access to ports for Russian ships and cargo, as well as in unblocking the accounts of fertilizer companies from Russia.

"Without concrete progress in solving these systemic problems, all the oaths of Westerners about humanitarian exemptions from their sanctions, assurances of commitment to global food security and expressions of support for the efforts of the UN Secretary General are nothing more than deliberate cunning and outright lies," Zakharova concluded.
Захарова назвала враньем слова Запада об изъятиях из санкций российской продукции

Episode 3
Putin called the involvement of the Ukrainian group in the terrorist attacks on the "Northern Streams" nonsense

Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Pavel Zarubin, a journalist of the Rossiya 1 TV channel, called the version that the "Northern Streams" were blown up by Ukrainian activists nonsense.

According to the president, explosions of such power and at such a depth can only be carried out by specialists who are supported by "all the power of the state, which has certain technologies."

Earlier, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said: it is obvious to Russia that the responsibility for undermining the "Northern Streams" lies with the United States.

Explosions on three lines of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream — 2 gas pipeline systems occurred on September 26, 2022 near the Danish island of Bornholm.

The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, said that the UN Security Council should urgently adopt a resolution on the establishment of an independent commission to investigate the explosions at the Nord Streams.
Путин назвал чушью причастность украинской группировки к терактам на «Северных потоках»

Чтобы ни произошло с этим дроном, я думаю, что это во первых давно напрашивалось, а во вторых должно стать "доброй традицией" и было бы желательно распространить эту традицию на Посейдоны, Центри и пр. разведывательные средства, летающие у границ России. Хозяева упавшего дрона не стесняются официально заявлять, что передают разведданные Украине, при этом, как "поп на заутрене" талдычат о своем неучастии в конфликте. Что мешает России оперативно объявлять районом учений ПВО, территорию, куда заходит разведчик и на этом основании воздействовать на разведчика?
Сегодняшняя тема ложь и лицемерие запада в отношении России.
Эпизод 1 (это только за сегодня, если кто не в курсе. На самом деле номер был бы где то около 100500)
В заявление этого деятеля надо вставить только одну фразу, чтобы оно превратилось в правду. Запад желает процветания России только под своим руководством и полным контролем.
 
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Wonder what they mean by sharp maneuvering.
I don't know if the Russians attacked, but they could have also used electronic warfare against the drone.
The incident seems like a deliberate provocation and could be used for a more short-term objective, which would be to send more weapons to Ukraine given the drop in support for Biden due to the current situation.
Now what does not quite fit me is that if the matter is a provocation, because they would be exposed to technology theft, the drone was unarmed according to the sources, so perhaps they did not expect it to be seen as such a dangerous threat Even so, the situation seems very risky... Open what to expect so as not to make cheap speculation (I say it to myself).
 
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Another explosive device at Nord Stream gas pipeline may be installed, the Russian President Vladimir Putin said, and calling Denmark for joint investigation.

14 MAR, 2023

'That sounds logical.'

(Translated by Google)

The American strike tactical drone MQ-9 Reaper that crashed into the Black Sea was destroyed by the Pentagon

2023-03-15

14 MAR, 2023
 
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Wonder what they mean by sharp maneuvering.
And this is the most probable version.

The drone pilot was trying to evade russian plane with too agresive maneuver and get the drone (which is made for planeur flying not air combat) into the flat spin. From which there wasnt altitude enough to recover.

It could be also the case that the russian plane made the dron into flat spin by placing the plane in front of the drone and geting it in his jet flow. Which could get the drone out of balance and in the flat spin. (great pilot skills with that).

Any version with any liquid pouring onto the drone's propeler is not likely, because it is made to fly through the rain, and not vulnerable to the liquids. In theory, the classic jet engine could be stoped like that, even burned, but this is turbo prop engine and is it not possible to damaged it in that way.

Anyway, I think that this is not something that happened by chance, Russians have planed it. Sort of ambush :)
 
:rolleyes:

Veteran US senator urges downing Russian warplanes​


“What would Ronald Reagan do right now? He would start shooting Russian planes down, if they were threatening our assets,” the veteran hawk told Fox News, while commenting on the incident."

“If Putin gets away with this, there goes Taiwan. The two are connected,” Graham claimed, referring to the self-administered Chinese territory, which President Biden has pledged to defend militarily, should China try to send military in."

 

Seymour Hersh shares concerns about what US could do next in Ukraine conflict

“I don’t know what happens if it goes bad for Ukraine, you have all this manpower,” he said, pointing out that the US has dispatched units of its 82nd and 101st elite airborne divisions close to the Ukrainian border, while “a lot of weapons and arms are coming” to Europe.

“I’m told the game is going to be: this is NATO, we are supporting NATO in offensive operations against the Russians, which is not going to fool the world… It’s us fighting Russia,” Hersh stressed, without disclosing his sources.

"According to Hersh, “the big deal” is that Russian President Vladimir Putin is ready to come to an agreement with the Ukrainian government. “The deal is demilitarize, and it’s going to be a no-go for us,” the journalist said, adding that the Russian leader “has not put in his main force yet” in the conflict."

"Summing up the Ukraine conflict, Hersh argued that “we just may be kidding ourselves what’s going on there and what the results are going to be”.

"He recalled the battle of Stalingrad during WWII, when Soviet troops suffered heavy losses but still emerged victorious. “Come on. Do we really want to mix up with those guys? I don’t think so,” the journalist added."

 
"Russia released a video of its fighter alongside the downed Reaper."

"Recall that the US previously refused to supply the MQ-9 to Ukraine for fear that it would be shot down and the Russians would study it.
Not only did this happen, but the downed aircraft was carrying one of NATO's most advanced surveillance systems."

 
Of course, the "Out of Africa" people slip in an even older origin (Africa), but nearly all the tracks for both Y-DNA and mtDNA, go back to Russia, Crimea, etc.

Hating your origin is just nuts, IMO.
In some people, there is perhaps what one could call a deep fear that it is true, coupled with an uncertainty of what the implications might be. For this reason, there are probably cases where a blank stare of surprise is actually not such a poor response after all.
 
Some month ago, there was a Russian video that claimed:
How true it is, I don't know, because in the article below the UA claims it is first time the Kinzhal has been used in the attack March 8- 9. Speculations are that a deep bunker like command center was hit in Kiev.

Since then there has been the downing of a US drone followed by conversation between the US and Russian military, so one could ask if the rumour of the bunker bust, the downing of the drone and the recent talks are connected?

The following article was published on 9 March 19:41:
Retaliation strike: 'Daggers' destroyed the 'shadow General Staff' of NATO in Ukraine?
According to unverified reports, American officers who controlled the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed
Alexander Sitnikov

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny, in hot pursuit, announced the data on the night (from March 8 to 9) strike. According to him, the Russian side fired 81 missiles at Ukrainian targets, including Kh-47 Kinzhal, X-22, Kh-101 / Kh-555, as well as 8 Geran UAVs. He also boasted that allegedly independent anti-aircraft gunners shot down 34, and 8 'as a result of organized opposition, they did not achieve their goals.'

The truth-tellers don't believe Zaluzhny. They believe that the independent air defense was able to chalk up only 'dummy' and 'Geranium' missiles. For obvious reasons, neither Zaluzhny nor Zelensky will provide details. But, judging by the mood in Ukraine, the real despondency reigns on Bankovaya.

Later, the Speaker of the Resurrection Forces of Ukraine, Ignat, spoke. He, in particular, said: “This was the first time - at night 6 Kinzhal missiles were fired at Ukraine.

'Daggers' are much more dangerous than other Russian missiles. They are capable of flying at hypersonic speeds, which are 10 times the speed of sound, and can maneuver in flight. It is virtually impossible for air defense systems to shoot down the Kinzhal, since the missile rises up 20 km, and then dives at a great speed on the target,' Ignat explained and added that in his memory 'there has never been such a dangerous arrival.'

Zelensky was forced to admit: 'A hard night.' The audience noted that the president's coming out looked like a beaten dog, and there were no words about interceptions in his speech.

According to sources familiar with the political backstage of Banderstat, the blow fell on the bunker control and planning centers, as well as on air defense / radar. Insiders reported heavy losses among officers, including American ones. It seems that the 'shadow General Staff' of the proxy-NATO got a lot.

According to rumors that are circulating in Ukraine, on March 9, a large delegation of the Ukro-General Staff visited the American Embassy in Kyiv. It seems that the transfer of lists of star-striped '200th' took place.

In addition, it became known about hits on the Iris-r and Nasams air defense systems, which were fired at dummy missiles and were destroyed by the Xs flying behind.

What is significant: those Ukrainian Internet resources that reported this were blocked by the independent Mintsifra. As many as 25 publics immediately fell under the distribution, which indirectly indicates hysteria in the Kyiv junta.

“Based on the massive use of the Kinzhal missiles, it can be assumed that Russia has set up mass production of these missiles and they have no problems with components,” the blogger @legitimniy came to the conclusion.

The head of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine, German Galushchenko, was forced to admit that the missile attack damaged at least three thermal power plants. It must be assumed that he lied in the smaller direction.

Another well-known blogger called for the official damage data to be multiplied by three. According to him, it was 'loud' in 12 regions and everywhere with serious damage. A strong fire is still going on at CHPP-5 in Kyiv. The arrival took place in the turbine hall, so we are not talking about a quick restoration of generation.

Public 'Kharkiv' spoke about at least fifteen explosions and strikes on CHP-3 and CHP-5. Whether they are damaged is still unknown, but local residents wrote about power and water outages. Separately, the assumption is voiced that the secret barracks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed, since the SBU began “filtration” measures.

“In the Zaporozhye region, 5 missiles immediately hit a critical infrastructure facility,” the Ukrainian Pravda newspaper reported, citing officials from the regional administration.

Residents of the Pavlograd, Krivoy Rog and Dnipropetrovsk districts of ex-Dnepropetrovsk are sure that “Substation Yuzhnaya” is everything! Destroyed', although it was covered by foreign-made air defense systems. It was loud at the Krivorozhskaya TPP, but the territory is cordoned off, so there is extremely little information. Typically, such measures of 'secrecy' are correlated with the level of damage. The larger it is, the more secretive the power is.

In the Volyn region, the residents heard the strongest explosions in Lutsk and Kivertsy. The blow was so powerful that the ceiling fell down in a number of houses. According to preliminary data, the Lutsk-Severnaya substation and the military airfield were damaged.

'Odessa Fraer' informed about the next destruction of energy facilities in the region. Most likely, the Adjalyk substation was smashed to pieces. New, more stringent schedules for stabilization shutdowns of local power grids from DTEK have already been published in Odessa. However, the previous ones were not respected.

Thus, the RF Armed Forces continued to “turn off” the switch to Ukraine, moreover, with the use of more powerful Kinzhal missiles. For Bandera and their star-striped puppeteers, it finally began to dawn that there was no longer a place in Nenko where one could hide. If, for example, the Kremlin considers that it is time for Zelensky to be 'two hundred', then it will be so.
 
Video of the meeting of the Su-27 and MQ-9 Reaper published by the Pentagon.
Footage of a bent MQ-9 tail rotor blade. At 38 seconds.
Su-27 jewelry passed at an ultra-small distance.

 

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