Q source / Qanon

[Rhythmik]

Thank you!! for asking about Q. I sincerely appreciate it.
I gotta say though I feel the C's answer invited so many more questions..

As Joe mentioned the intro was a tad loaded and then a lot of assumptions were dumped onto the C's statement where another question may have been asked. This information is like gold to people following the drops. Maybe I am a little too invested into it now, but I know that Q is not here to save us, we just are incredibly intrigued as to the origin of the source and the direction it's headed due to the prescience of the drops and connections to the administration.

Why was "insider" in quotes, what does that imply? Has Trump recruited an insider of psy-ops to aid him along with his military allies? Implying inside the administration or something else like inside a hidden society? How deep does this go? The C's did say that Trump would try to alter US policy. A psy-op is not necessarily a negative thing, correct? What if it's a psy-op to 'redpill' a sizable segment of 'normies' onto some deep occult aspects of the government and our reality? Is there zero chance to expose to the world the true extent of government corruption to enact some positive change? Or is Trump just a Zionist and this is a fun game to distract us on our way to doom.

As for the MSM picking up on Q, they had to address it due to its growing reach, so they're publishing hit pieces on the material that's full of lies. So what does this prove? Because Q also predicted all of this, so is the source some overarching psy-op with connections to the entire MSM? Q is making predictions and we're seeing results. The top of the FBI has been removed, many people who thought they were untouchable are now being investigated or are sweating profusely. CEOs and politicians resigning left and right, they're publicly sacrificing celebrities. There are also 51,000+ indictments that many are eager to see unsealed.

And I assume most of us here follow the news and political events around the world even though in the grand scheme of things they may or may not matter. Following Q often takes less time a day than reading a news article, it's simply another (arguably proven) source of news for a growing number of people. And isn't virtually all news media mixing truth with lies?

 

[luc]

Rhythmik, I'm sorry, but I find it really astonishing how you engage in such extreme mental gymnastics to "save" your precious Q source. This only confirms how dangerous these psy-ops are and how they can totally engulf and trap the minds of intelligent people. (Not that we needed any further confirmation.)

 

[goyacobol]

A psy-op is not necessarily a negative thing, correct?

Wikipedia definition

Psychological operations (PSYOP) are planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

By definition a PSYOP is at minimum a manipulative maneuver. If you see that as positive then maybe you should think about the difference between STS and STO ( or do you not see any).

 

[Ant22]

Rhythmik, I'm sorry, but I find it really astonishing how you engage in such extreme mental gymnastics to "save" your precious Q source. This only confirms how dangerous these psy-ops are and how they can totally engulf and trap the minds of intelligent people. (Not that we needed any further confirmation.)

Yeah, I find it quite astonishing too. Stuart Chase's words come to mind: “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” Although maybe this would be more accurate: those who have made up their mind don't care about proof and none will be sufficient.

(...) And I assume most of us here follow the news and political events around the world even though in the grand scheme of things they may or may not matter. Following Q often takes less time a day than reading a news article, it's simply another (arguably proven) source of news for a growing number of people. And isn't virtually all news media mixing truth with lies?

Unless you have enough knowledge to separate the truth from lies tread carefully when believing what the media says or you'll end up believing PsyOps are the real deal.

Oh, wait...

Besides, no, not "virtually all news media" mixes the truth with lies. SOTT for example doesn't do that and the writers and editors put a lot of work into separating the wheat from the chaff. I think SOTT is a much more nourishing source of information than Q.

 

[Rhythmik]

^I wholeheartedly agree and I believe the original SOTT articles are written in an attempt to convey unfiltered truth. Yet SOTT also links many articles from other sources that are generally trustworthy but we cannot verify all claims and there are always mistakes or slight discrepancies (for whatever reason).

I'm not trying to save anything here, I just feel that some are being dismissive of something potentially important, and then making assumptions about me for wanting to understand it.

Look at the first post of this thread, I stated it was an insider.
Others who had maybe not given it a fair go were certain it was some troll.
C's confirmed it was an "insider", whatever that means..
Since the beginning I've suggested it was a psy-op but does that automatically make it worthless?

 

[Aeneas]

Rhythmik, your reasoning is based on belief. The response about Q was:

A: An "insider" of psyops.

In plain words the response was that Q is a psyop. The "insider" bit means in my understanding that it is someone pretending to be an insider to sell the message, but the whole lot of Q is a psyops. That is the meaning of those quotation marks that the C's used. There is nothing more to it. Remember there is a program written for everyone, with the purpose to distract, confuse and make obscure.

A case can be made that this addiction to Q is similar to porn addiction. Instead of fantasizing about imaginary women/men, then there is the fantasizing about the hidden mystical all knowing patriotic cavalry who is going to save the day...in some future. Just a variation of the Rapture movement, who were going to be raptured...in the future that never comes. Again, it is all about distraction. Distraction fit for machines as ScioAgapeOmnis pointed out.

Perhaps this thread can now be moved to Cointelpro, as it has nothing to do with esoterica, and to avoid that others will spend days trying to read this dead-end subject?

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Rhythmik, your reasoning is based on belief. The response about Q was:
In plain words the response was that Q is a psyop. The "insider" bit means in my understanding that it is someone pretending to be an insider to sell the message, but the whole lot of Q is a psyops. That is the meaning of those quotation marks that the C's used. There is nothing more to it. Remember there is a program written for everyone, with the purpose to distract, confuse and make obscure.

Exactly. I think of an insider (without quotation marks) as a whistleblower, someone on the inside who wants to share the truth. Whether their motivations are noble or not doesn't necessarily matter - maybe they've got a grudge and want to harm their 'bosses', or maybe they just genuinely want to spread the truth. Either way, they are what they say they are.

But putting "insider" in quotation marks implies someone who is not precisely an insider, i.e., they are misrepresenting themselves. They have another, unstated agenda. And that's a problem, because it throws all their statements into question. You can't just trust their statements to be "the truth as they understand it", as you could with a real insider. Some of their statements may be true - the result of inside knowledge - but the only way to know is from outside confirmation. They may predict some things - but it's impossible to know whether some of those predictions were guesses or the result of actual knowledge. And some of their statements may be unverifiable and false.

In such a case, there isn't any real advantage to taking ANYTHING they say seriously, because what can be confirmed WILL be confirmed, with or without them. And the things that CAN'T be confirmed could easily by lies. And that's the purpose: to put in just enough verifiable information, and enough of what people WANT to hear, to get them hooked. Then they will start lowering their defenses and accepting the unverifiable stuff as truth. And some of those things will be for a purpose. That's the psyop.

 

[Rhythmik]

I understand.
Thanks again for asking.

 

[meta-agnostic]

Going ahead and cross-posting this from the C's session thread 9/22/2018:
Session 22 September 2018

Maybe while the Q subject is still fresh is a good time to ask what it means in regard to Trump. Not necessarily of the C's, but of ourselves and in general since Trump is still something of a question mark around here.

I see these as possibilities and I'm sure someone can correct me if my logic is all twisted up somehow:

1) Oblivious. Trump literally has no idea about the Q stuff or has been consciously ignoring it. All of the so-called confirmations were set up somehow. This might be fairly called larp-psyop or psyop-larp. I'm not giving odds for the rest but for this one I'll go out on a limb and say odds=low.

2) Deceived. Trump is aware of Q and thinks it is going to help the people, or do what it says, but this is not the case. He is being led along by the psyop the same as everyone else.

3) Nefarious. Whatever chance there was for Trump to be "good" is gone. He is fully in bed with the DS/NWO/STS etc. etc. and is consciously allowing them to use Q as a pied piper.

4) Hamstrung. Trump still may have some good intentions but is in enough of a bind to where he can't do much. The Q stuff is leading people along and he knows those behind it don't have good intentions, but he's not in a position to challenge it. Hopefully this can still change.

5) ????

I'm very interested to see others opinions of these possibilities and I'm happy to re-post this in the designated QAnon C's questions thread, or have someone else do it, or even have this post moved.

 

[goyacobol]

I am cross-post replying:

I think this could be cross-posted and still be useful.

Of course #4 is the most hopeful/wishful I guess but I am loosing some optimism lately.

It could be #5 He knows he has been hamstrung and has acquiesced to the forces of the swamp/deep state. Maybe the deep state (through it's vassals) is now trying to stroke his ego with presidential perks like:

Poland suggests 'Fort Trump' as U.S. weighs military base



That's about as much credit I can muster up thinking that he "tried" (have to "wait and see").

 

[meta-agnostic]

Continuing a discussion from Joe's post in C's 2018/9/22 session thread here:
Session 22 September 2018
(if this discussion may branch, may its branches be blessed with Knowledge)

I understand your frustration, and I have to admit that I also wished that the C's would have been asked about who was behind it and for what purpose.

Why? The purpose seems obvious. There is a 'deep state' that doesn't like Trump, wants to keep him on a tight leash. They don't like him because he has galvanized a section of the US population that supports an isolationist policy for the Trump admin. These people, especially the most ardent supporters of Trump, are seen as a minor threat by the 'deep state'. But no big deal, they can be dealt with in the way that pretty much EVERY such threat is dealt with: by co-opting it. Hence 'Q'.

I'm still amazed at how some people here did not automatically suspect a psy-op of some sort, rather than run with the 'insider' idea. I suppose some people just haven't learned enough about how the world works yet.

Joe, I do not mean this to be confrontational, but I have to point some things out. In almost every post I've made in this thread I have hedged with the possibility of Q being a 'larp' or a 'psyop'. My understanding of your position at the start, and more recently pre-session finish was pretty much in the larp camp, and that even considering it a psyop was giving it too much credit, or perhaps eventually "larp, psyop, what's the difference?" The difference is that some of us had examined it closely enough early on to be able to tell that there was more than just frivolous internet nonsense going on. If early on, not just those of us so curious but more like anyone on the forum who was the least bit interested had focused on things mainly from the psyop angle, taking that as the default position and not just dismissing the entire thing, we might have a much better idea of what the hell was going on with the whole entire thing without any need to ask the C's further questions about it.

The truth is, we don't really know what Trump's role is in the whole thing. Everyone who has been paying close attention to Q seems pretty convinced of one of two things:
- Trump has sanctioned, i.e. given the go-ahead to Q and that's what makes all the co-ordinations possible
or
- whatever "insider(s)" of psyops are behind this thing have enough access to the nuts and bolts of the administration to fake Trump's involvement whether he likes it or not. Which would make it all the more important, and even more odd for Q to have promoted, the idea of someone in the media to "Ask the Q" of Trump and put him on the spot.

The C's have gone back and forth a bit on Trump but before the 2016 election they did give the general impression that he looked at things like a businessman, and wanted to run America like a good business. I haven't seen anything from him to give me reason to change that impression. Maybe if there is anything left to figure out about Trump and his intentions, it's worth asking the C's what his beholden-ness is to Israel, and leave Q out of it?

 

[Rhythmik]

Oct 4, 2018 #2343

Are you ready to see arrests?
Are you ready to see PAIN?
Are you ready to be part of history?
Q

Let's see..

 

[thorbiorn]

Some many posts about "Q". I had to look Q up in a dictionary for some clarification. Here is one view: Definition of QUEUE

Is it que, queue, or q?
One of our persistent—and more puzzling—lookups is for the word que, which is entered in our dictionary (capitalized) as an abbreviation for Quebec. Qué is also a Spanish word that means “what.” That is not, however, the word that many people are looking for when they look up que in our dictionary. Que is homophonous with a number of other words, most of which have wildly different spellings and meanings. One of the words that people are looking for when they look up que is queue, a word that means “line” (as in, “We waited in the ticket queue.”) Sometimes people are looking for the homonym cue, or “a signal to start or do something” (“The lights just went out—that’s my cue to start the movie.”). Very occasionally, people look up que for coup, a word that refers to a violent and sudden overthrow or takeover of a government (“reports on the latest coup attempt”). And if you’re looking for the phonetic spelling of the letter q, try again: that’s cue.

When one looks up the various words there are even more etymologies and meanings. A cue can also be used when talking about hypnosis, in the sense of a stimulus to do or think something.

Here is some etymolgy from Definition of CUE

History and Etymology for cue

Noun (1)
Middle English cu half a farthing (spelled form of q, abbreviation for Latin quadrans quarter of an as)
Noun (2)
probably from qu, abbreviation (used as a direction in actors' copies of plays) of Latin quando when
Verb (1)
see CUE entry 2
Noun (3)
French queue, literally, tail, from Old French cue, coe, queue, from Latin cauda
Verb (2)
see CUE entry 4

 

[luc]

Oct 4, 2018 #2343

Are you ready to see arrests?
Are you ready to see PAIN?
Are you ready to be part of history?
Q

Let's see..

Seriously? Who wrote that - Quadolf Quitler? If that's not messing with people's emotions and herding them to the pathological deep end, I don't know what is.

 

[meta-agnostic]

Fresh off the Q (Hey, it's almost the weekend...)

2346 (46 is 23 times 2 )
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.342
Oct 5 2018 12:53:48 (EST)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1048079911813107713

Important moment in time.
The picture will be the signifier.
The signifier will 'force' the Q.
The Q will be answered (((WWG1WGA))).
Q

Attached image: an account of an anon meeting Trump, asking him about Q and Trump saying "Maybe..."

So yeah, it's anonymous and could be laughed off as more clickbait until confirmed. But is it important to know whether Trump is "good", or whether he thinks he is "good" but is actually entrapped by those who are "bad", or has no choice, etc. etc.? Dismissals of the importance of this issue since the C's session do not agree on these points. And maybe those of us living in the USA, and even in "purple-ish" areas have a bit more skin in the game.

I am not saying ghost stories and the origins of life are not important, I think they are very important, no irony intended. But the way this "psyop" goes has the potential to have Quite an impact on our path/timeline. Is it completely frivolous and a waste of energy to try and see what's coming? [as far as the political scene "blowing up" since that seems to be the stated prediction from the C's of what it might be likely to do before/during when "everything else" starts]