Queen Elizabeth II Dies - End of an Era

I am trying to understand why there is a need to see her as a kind human being when she was not that at all. She didn't even try to become one ... :cool2:

But to see why I am not appreciating these positive things about her, I went to read this post about her achievements that Adobe posted, but couldn't go to far ... It was too pathetic and long.

So I looked at some shorter and more condensed ones. Like top 5 achievements or similar, and I read this article and couldn't really find any worth mentioning. If she was a neighbor, it would be challenging to remember fast is the one that died at age 96 from 1st or 5th flor ...


Reading and observing the people's comments, I see how she was truly made into the "nice" woman wearing her "cross" with dignity?!?!

Well, she had a golden crown packed with diamonds dug by black children; it wasn't a cross that was put on her against her will, and SHE COULD DO A LOT, but she didn't. WHY? Because it was easiest for her to do nothing, like in every decent established traditional CORPO-RATIOn. She was a silent hunter gatekeeper, and humanity was also for her just prey. She distanced herself from all the evil her empire did just because it was the best way to hypnotize the masses. As many said, she was a "Mother" figure to them, OMG - and that was the biggest crime she did as she accpeted to be that "model" even though she didn't really give a dam shit for any small man on the street.

From my understanding, She sat silently for 70 years enjoying the radiant energy of love from the people she, or the forces she embodied as a queen godess, as she was the one of that kind, obviously needed so desperately. That amount of adoration or hate for an emphatic human being is not easy to take biologically ...

Fame cause a lot of stress on your body just because sooooo many people radiate their energies towards you, projecting on you all sort of things, and you feel them, and they flow through your body so strongly that most of the day, you just can't focus or even think about anything ... you literary feel how they feed on you .... not always negatively, and it is not important, as it is just energy, and you feel it very chaotically ... after some time you can get used to that and learn what part of the day and weeks are less energized, but as long as you are present in media, on TV, magazines etc, what reminds people on you, it is not avoidable. It is partly controllable as you understand it, but when it hits you feel blurry and slightly trembling like when you are excited about something that has to happen, and in that state, you can't make serious work or decisions. That is why those stars and popular people who really do good work are waking up at dawn while their fans are still in sleep mode ... and staying out of everyday media if there is no work by them they need to promote. Well, she was just the opposite - a cover page puppet so that people will be mesmerized by her, not even looking at what is behind that cover page.

Anyhow it is still hell on a way, and you can take it and endure it if there is a better message to bring to the people by your work or exmaple. But for sure if you are human you will not feel pleasant by the enormous amount of power people are ready to give to you. You don't want them to mystify you and to think that their life can be improved not by themself where you can be one piece of that puzzle, but you will not be willing ot radite stornglky like a Queen Goddess - that they will be good mostly because they worship you and want to be you, or near to you.

So she was pure supercharged 4D STS puppet ... the worst kind of puppet, a passive-aggressive one ... this is how I see it, as if she will be compassionate, she will make Africa free again as she was able to make that move. Or if she wass really kind, she was always able to resign and save herself from that kingdom of evil, but she didn't.

Looking at her family, what a mess ... and she was indeed protecting her son's degenerative mind and behaviors... leaving them with Charles and Camila ... and Lizzy Truss(t) - wasn't the name also kind of like form a myth .. a queen died after meeting with Lizzy Trusssst - a serpent, and the queen was a Taurus by astrological sing on her birth, did they maybe performed the ritual? Also, she died at age 96 - mirroring = 69! also, the date of her death looks graphically very snaky = 892022 17222 8222 = 8+9+2+0+2+2 = 5 pentagram ... etc ...
I'm sure you know that no one on this forum is going to be surprised by the idea that someone in power is corrupt and/or psychopathic. But unlike ATS or many other conspiracy circles, this forum values data and evidence, not pattern recognition run amok, not inferences from numerological suppositions (especially those that are.. a real stretch to put it mildly), not assumptions of all sorts. There is nothing wrong with making a hypothesis and putting together evidence that may indicate its validity. We would love nothing more than exactly that!

But you haven't done any of that. You constructed a narrative with nothing to back it up. It's all "how I see it" and "how I feel". You assume a lot about what she should've and could've done, and since she didn't, you conclude all sorts of evil with no consideration for any other possibility, no consideration of her position, her life, her power or lack thereof. You seem to be attached to the idea that she's evil, and have created a narrative based on completely subjective assumptions to justify it. Don't even get me started on using someone's "bloodline" as proof of their character either.

No one here is invested in her being "good" for its own sake. In case you're not sure what forum you're on, and what it spent decades uncovering about powerful people and the world - please familiarize yourself.

As to your largely incoherent and passive aggressive reply to Laura - she has heard worse from better. Your lack of any objectivity towards the Queen, unfortunately for you, is unlikely to be an isolated mental glitch in an otherwise very objective and clear minded individual who values evidence and considers multiple possibilities. This isn't unique or special to you - anyone who displays such a dramatic lack of ability to think will create monsters out of nothing in their own life, and angels out of demons. This translates to all sorts of misery and problems and bad decisions, the root of which you're unable to identify properly without working on yourself. You can't fix the way you think with the way you think.

Long story short - it sounds like you may be in the wrong bar. You don't seem to understand what bar this is at all.
 
Well, this thread has been a bitter pill to swallow for me. I made the comment at the public EE meetup not long after the news had been announced that, "I hope she burns in hell." To me, she was always an exemplar of hypocrisy, adorning herself in lavish luxury while her people suffered under austerity, turning a blind eye to her daughter-in-law's murder, providing no useful function to the governing of the country other than as a rubber stamp, choosing a psychopathic husband who so loved the world that he publicly wished to be reincarnated as a deadly virus to effectively decimate humanity, spawning a bunch of pathological and incompetent offspring that somehow miraculously gave her one decent grandson - mostly thanks to his mother's genes, I'm sure - etc etc.

And let's not forget that if we apply equal standards, as head of state (and the Commonwealth) she bore responsibility for the crimes of her government(s) in Iraq and Libya and thus it would have been fair for her to stand trial for war crimes alongside the likes of Bush, Blair, Cheney et al - at least, in the fantasy reality where such people are actually prosecuted for such crimes.

But if I'm completely honest, I think one of the things that got my goat most of all was that, as a person, everyone seemed to love her despite all that other stuff which just got pushed into the background and forgotten. I think even I did, and still do, despite all the evidence that was mounting up about her complicity with the pathological power structure in the UK.

I agree with @Michael B-C that she didn't have the same mythos as Elizabeth I, however @Laura, @Joe and @Niall made me realise that I judged her too harshly, to an unfair standard and that things aren't always that black-and-white. It seems that her net effect upon her subjects was positive, and that her scope of action was always likely to be somewhat circumscribed, given that she accepted a position that was probably never meant to be hers, or at least not at such an early time. Reminds me a little of Maduro having to accept the Presidency of Venezuela after Chavez' assassination; the difficulties of having to adapt to a position that he was likely not yet ready for.

Perhaps there's a bit of programming around the notion of the "Divine Right of Kings", too. Maybe we assume that people who ascend to such positions are "chosen", whether by God or their higher selves, to take on such responsibility, when it's not quite so simple, and that maybe there are all kinds of reasons for why people can become monarchs that have nothing to do with predestination. If so, maybe we should cut the Kings & Queens of this world some slack, yes?

Anyway, thanks for the reality check folks; I'm sure I'll be reflecting on this for some time to come.

May Her Royal Majesty Rest In Peace. 💐🕯️
 
hi .... there is not much to say on that page ... if there will be I will ... as for the knowledge - yes I know Laura's work as well as the work of other prominent and smart members of FOTCM .. ... :) thank you!
That has been your answer when you were asked to introduce yourself.
You never gave us that honour as far as I can see. Now your account seems to be closed.... well... bye!

When it comes to the queen I find myself on the fence since I fed my mind with a lot of conspiracy theories a la Icke many years ago.
Some ideas are hard to get rid of but I'm quite elated to see that things have changed insofar that I'm aware now that in reality I know nothing about these people but all is hearsay.
Whatever the Queen has been I wish for her smooth transition.
Even if she has been a perfect STS tool at least we should be aware that everything is about balance. From a 3D perspective all transitions are blurred.
I hope she did the best she could.
 
Well, this thread has been a bitter pill to swallow for me. I made the comment at the public EE meetup not long after the news had been announced that, "I hope she burns in hell." To me, she was always an exemplar of hypocrisy, adorning herself in lavish luxury while her people suffered under austerity, turning a blind eye to her daughter-in-law's murder, providing no useful function to the governing of the country other than as a rubber stamp, choosing a psychopathic husband who so loved the world that he publicly wished to be reincarnated as a deadly virus to effectively decimate humanity, spawning a bunch of pathological and incompetent offspring that somehow miraculously gave her one decent grandson - mostly thanks to his mother's genes, I'm sure - etc etc.

And let's not forget that if we apply equal standards, as head of state (and the Commonwealth) she bore responsibility for the crimes of her government(s) in Iraq and Libya and thus it would have been fair for her to stand trial for war crimes alongside the likes of Bush, Blair, Cheney et al - at least, in the fantasy reality where such people are actually prosecuted for such crimes.

But if I'm completely honest, I think one of the things that got my goat most of all was that, as a person, everyone seemed to love her despite all that other stuff which just got pushed into the background and forgotten. I think even I did, and still do, despite all the evidence that was mounting up about her complicity with the pathological power structure in the UK.

I agree with @Michael B-C that she didn't have the same mythos as Elizabeth I, however @Laura, @Joe and @Niall made me realise that I judged her too harshly, to an unfair standard and that things aren't always that black-and-white. It seems that her net effect upon her subjects was positive, and that her scope of action was always likely to be somewhat circumscribed, given that she accepted a position that was probably never meant to be hers, or at least not at such an early time. Reminds me a little of Maduro having to accept the Presidency of Venezuela after Chavez' assassination; the difficulties of having to adapt to a position that he was likely not yet ready for.

Perhaps there's a bit of programming around the notion of the "Divine Right of Kings", too. Maybe we assume that people who ascend to such positions are "chosen", whether by God or their higher selves, to take on such responsibility, when it's not quite so simple, and that maybe there are all kinds of reasons for why people can become monarchs that have nothing to do with predestination. If so, maybe we should cut the Kings & Queens of this world some slack, yes?

Anyway, thanks for the reality check folks; I'm sure I'll be reflecting on this for some time to come.

May Her Royal Majesty Rest In Peace. 💐🕯️
I tend to agree - it's not so black and white. I'd say the law of 3 would be helpful here. I know it's kinda silly but for example, although I never wanted to be a deadly virus to decimate humanity, I often wish a comet would come and basically do the same. I'm not psychopathic, and I don't want innocent people to suffer or die, but I also know that humanity, in its ignorance, enables psychopaths to continuously create untold suffering and death for billions of innocents. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people in that position swallowed the whole "humanity is an overpopulated plague causing their own destruction with global warming and pollution etc" narrative, which isn't that different from what I said above about humanity being the cause of its own suffering - just the "how" is different. And feeling frustrated as a result and wanting a "cleansing" may not be a psychopathic idea. I can't say for sure why HE said what he said, but it's just a thought I had where the law of 3 may make the difference between "wow he really just hates humanity and wants to kill everyone because he's evil" and "ok he's just really frustrated and doesn't see another way out, although I think he's misinformed". Just a thought! I really don't know exactly where he's personally coming from, so it could be one or the other, or both! Plenty of psychopaths in power also are on the whole global warming shtick and have wet dreams about reducing the population as well.
 
Elizabeth, like the rest of us, was programmed to do and be exactly what she was. And just like any family, some of them might be psychopaths, and others normal and empathic. I think the Queen was normal and empathic, but like everyone, trapped in her own programming/reality.
I for one cast no judgement on the Queen, for I knew her not. I hope for a peaceful transition and only she will know and see if that is what happens. So Queen Elizabeth, RIP and I hope you were greeted by your beloved Prince. Your life was by no means a normal one, God’s Speed and May the wind be at your back.

As for what is coming, Prince Charles and now King Charles is not going to be graceful by any means. Between him and Lizzy this should be a good one, need to get some popcorn and Enjoy the Show!
 
Royal beekeeper John Chapple informed the bees of the Queen's death

He also instructed the bees to be kind to their new master King Charles III, writes insider.com

The ritual, which has unknown origins, involves knocking on each hive and informing them of the death of their keeper and who will succeed them in a hushed tone, MailOnline reported. There are five hives at Buckingham Palace and two at Clarence House, the royal beekeeper said.

According to the 1901 book "New England Legends and Folk Lore," the "very old superstition" was that bees must be told of their master's or mistress' death or calamity would ensue. Failing to carry out the ritual was believed to lead to the bees deserting their hives, failing to produce honey, or dying, the book said. 🐝


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Quote of the day from the Queen herself. "Grief is the price we pay for love".

I think we can all agree on that, regardless of political opinions and so forth. Whilst an anachronistic institution, she served her role impeccably, whilst remaining mindful of darker waters in the UK, as she reminded Paul Burrell in that memorable quote. It's weird, I've never been a Royalist, but I'll miss her presence in our lives. DCM bless her smooth transition to the contemplative realm.
 
USA soap opera viewers nixed-

Upstaged! Final NBC scene of ‘Days Of Our Lives’ interrupted by Queen’s death​


Like sands through the hourglass — so flowed the outrage from “Days of Our Lives” fans Friday.

Watchers of the 57-year-old soap opera in New York suffered a real life melodrama Friday when the final scene of the show on broadcast TV was interrupted by live coverage of Queen Elizabeth’s death.

The last ever episode to air on the tube before “Days” is moved to streaming-only was cut short in its final moments by King Charles III’s speech Friday afternoon, creating the ultimate cliffhanger and enraging viewers.
 
I've called the Crown inbred psychopaths for the last 15 years, and I'm not going to stop just because the old hag croaked. But it does feel weird when non-British citizens, and especially Americans, voice sympathy for the keystone of the institution that seriously intended their annihilation.

It is much more generalized. In my country where historically (even before the 20th century) there was and there is a latent enmity -the last time was the Malvinas Islands conflict.- There are many who express a sympathy that... it is not that it borders on the absurd, but rather, as we say here in Argentina, they are 'cipayos'.

By extension to this meaning, the notion of cipayo began to be used to name an individual who, for ideological reasons or in exchange for money, defends foreign or foreign interests. In this sense, a cipayo is a kind of mercenary or "henchman for hire".

At the other extreme, there are those who even celebrated with champagne.
 
A very good message from Russel, It's so uncommon nowadays to find people/celebrities like this on YouTube with messages like this who I agree with. I'm not British, but I understood of the value of the Queen.
I used to think Russell Brand was an idiot especially after his disgraceful bating of the veteran actor Andrew Sachs after he dated his granddaughter - see The Russell Brand Show prank calls row - Wikipedia

However, I am glad to see that with the passing of the years he has matured and is now one of a small group of celebrities who is prepared to calls things things out for what they are. He has been particularly vocal over the faux Covid vaccine and its dangerous side effects and he has also openly attacked the oligarchy or PTB. Good for him. We could do with more celebrities and high profile types speaking out like this.
 
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