Recommended Reiki Master?

[meadow_wind]

Any leads regarding recommendable healers or masters in the region of Montreal or its surroundings?

When Googling "Usui Reiki Montreal", there's a bunch of schools and academies popping up. I'm frankly untrustful of any of this, and my intuition is far from being reliable.
I just went to a Reiki session, just to find out what it was and what it can do for me. It was a friend's referral.

To start the session, there was all this "new age" mumbo jumbo about using gemstone pendulums to get answers to some questions, Lizards nests in closets and under people's houses, 4 Hybrid lizards attached to me that she sent away, 35 entities living in my house, and ... whatever else nonsense not worth mentioning. She seems like she's being misguided with some concepts.
During the session, I didn't feel much at all. So either I'm "energetically constipated" like Laura said in her EE breathing video, either that woman's gifts lie elsewhere...

 

[Vajra91]

Long shot, but is there any recommendation for a good Reiki master in Italy? I've been meaning to get an attunement for years, I think it's time to just set my worries aside and go for it.
Otherwise, anything new to check for aside from the usual suspects (Make sure it's the Usui method, check the lineage to make sure it comes through Takata and DOESN'T come through Diane Stein, check the symbols to see if they correspond with the ones here _Reiki Symbols, get a normal session before the attunement and of course, if known, avoid anyone dabbling in any new agey or otherwise suspect stuff)?

 

[Jones]

If there are no suggestions coming from Italian members, the next best thing to do could be to just contact any reiki masters that are advertising and ask them for their reiki lineage. I once found a reiki master that had a good lineage, but later became heavily involved with the Reiki Alliance and if I recall correctly, as it was anfew years ago now, it was a good idea to avoid the Reiki Alliance. Others might have better insight or suggestions.

 

[Vajra91]

So, after a bit of searching I've found an "interesting" Reiki master not too far from me.

He was attuned as a Reiki master by Marta Getty (who was seemingly initiated to reiki by Bethal Phaigh, one of takata's students, and then attuned as a master by Phyllis Furumoto), so.. That sounds promising? Fairly short and direct lineage?
However, Marta Getty seems to have also developed her own Reiki technique for "Healing your Family Tree with Reiki" (finding in-depth information on this technique is proving more difficult than I expected), so that could be little bit of a red flag, perhaps. This master I would go to also teaches this technique, along with other "traditional" healing reiki techniques (no specifics given on the website), but only as additional seminars/workshops. The "base" class seems to be just the good old Usui Reiki.

He also has in his curriculum bioenergetic massage, phytotherapy, foot reflexology, naturopathy, crystal therapy, chromotherapy, ho'oponopono (a traditional hawaiian practice of "reconciliation and forgiveness") and... "Akashic records reader"...

Another can of worms in regards to this Reiki master is that he also offers "shamanic journey workshops", something he learned through the foundation for shamanic studies. No drugs, no excessive focus on rituals (from what I could gather so far), but a focus on accessing an altered state of consciousness using drumming, seeking contact with power animals, spiritual teachers and compassionate spirits for healing.. Bit of a mixed bag.. I could imagine someone toying with this kind of stuff without sufficient knowledge and preparation getting a bad attachment or two. Or worse. And yet, I find myself quite tempted to schedule a Reiki treatment to get a feel and ask a few questions, ask about the symbols he uses, etc...


I have found a few other masters, but the one big problem with them is that they received their attunement from a seemingly very prolific italian reiki master who received SEVEN (yikes) different master attunements in seven different "traditions" (gendai reiki, komyo reiki, usui reiki, japanese reiki, karuna reiki, tibetan reiki and "advanced reiki training"). Basically, it's absolutely impossible to figure out what kind of energy this guy (or any of his students, by extension) is actually carrying. It gives me a feeling of just absolute chaos, and 3 of his 7 lineages go through William Lee Rand, so that seems like a very bad idea.


Do you guys think that the "Reiki Master Shaman" is bad news to avoid a priori? My intuition is not sounding the alarm, in fact I am a little intrigued, but..

 

[Alejo]

Do you guys think that the "Reiki Master Shaman" is bad news to avoid a priori? My intuition is not sounding the alarm, in fact I am a little intrigued, but..

I am not sure, a lot of practitioners tend to focus on other things too, so him having extra stuff on his curriculum isn't particularly bad. However, some of those things to me would indicate a lever of delusion that would make me think twice about it. Think about the fact that you said this...

Another can of worms in regards to this Reiki master

Which is kind of an alarm in and of itself already. I would personally thread carefully if at all with someone like that.

 

[Aeneas]

He was attuned as a Reiki master by Marta Getty

I was attuned to Reiki 1 by Marta Getty in 1988 and my experience with her was good. She has been and appears to still be very committed to Reiki as the central thing in what she does. Something I can appreciate. That being said, then it isn't from her that you are going to learn Reiki but from one of her students.

No drugs, no excessive focus on rituals (from what I could gather so far), but a focus on accessing an altered state of consciousness using drumming, seeking contact with power animals, spiritual teachers and compassionate spirits for healing.

Yes, he does seem to be into quite a mixed bag of things as Alejo says.
He says no drugs but does he use ayahuasca in his shamanic practices? The shamanic thing makes me apprehensive and I am also inclined to suggest to tread carefully.

And yet, I find myself quite tempted to schedule a Reiki treatment to get a feel and ask a few questions, ask about the symbols he uses, etc...

That could be a way to check out the person.

 

[Vajra91]

I am not sure, a lot of practitioners tend to focus on other things too, so him having extra stuff on his curriculum isn't particularly bad. However, some of those things to me would indicate a lever of delusion that would make me think twice about it. Think about the fact that you said this...


Which is kind of an alarm in and of itself already. I would personally thread carefully if at all with someone like that.

On that I agree. I suppose I kind of expect "most" people who deal with "energetic work" to suffer from some level of delusion, unfortunately. Not all of course, but rare are the people who favor a more sober, scientific approach. But, if Reiki works regardless of the receiver's state of mind (as evidenced by the fact that even complete skepticism doesn't seem to hinder it's efficacy), then I would expect the same to be true in regards to the practitioner's state of mind. Of course, that doesn't mean something "else" couldn't be passed along besides Reiki. That is a possibility to consider.

I was attuned to Reiki 1 by Marta Getty in 1988 and my experience with her was good. She has been and appears to still be very committed to Reiki as the central thing in what she does. Something I can appreciate. That being said, then it isn't from her that you are going to learn Reiki but from one of her students.

Seems she passed away in 2020 actually.
Even if it wouldn't be directly from her, it's good information to know that her student had a good teacher.

Yes, he does seem to be into quite a mixed bag of things as Alejo says.
He says no drugs but does he use ayahuasca in his shamanic practices? The shamanic thing makes me apprehensive and I am also inclined to suggest to tread carefully.

It is the most concerning aspect, yes. From what I read no ayahuasca either, just drumming, so there is that.
Well, the "akashic records reader" thing is also basically channeling, which could be equally concerning. It's not a service he offers, seems to be just a seminar he partecipated to years ago, and to be fair Edgar Cayce's case suggests to me that this is maybe not an automatic deal breaker. But again. ought to be considered.

That could be a way to check out the person.

I'll think about it. I would also prefer someone "safer", but since the lineage is good, If no better opportunity serendipitously presents itself, then I might just try a careful approach, check him out in person, keeping the focus of any actual, eventual "work" we might do on the Reiki itself. Bad come to worst, it would be a harsh learning experience and I might have to change my focus from reiki to exorcism
Thank you guys for the advice. Mixed bag, much to ponder..

 

[ishiki]

Long shot, but is there any recommendation for a good Reiki master in Italy? I've been meaning to get an attunement for years, I think it's time to just set my worries aside and go for it.
Otherwise, anything new to check for aside from the usual suspects (Make sure it's the Usui method, check the lineage to make sure it comes through Takata and DOESN'T come through Diane Stein, check the symbols to see if they correspond with the ones here _Reiki Symbols, get a normal session before the attunement and of course, if known, avoid anyone dabbling in any new agey or otherwise suspect stuff)?

There are many "bad" reiki practitioners from the western style reiki in my vicinity. I decided to get my attunement from a Jikiden teacher (not too far away 1 hour drive). I don't know if Jikiden is purer, but it does seem that way to me at least in my area. I checked and there are three places in Nothern Italy where you can get attunements.

Nonetheless I don't think it is neccesarily better. My friend found her master through looking at courses near her, found someone who did it for a very long time (90s) and was very open about her lineage.

 

[Alejo]

On that I agree. I suppose I kind of expect "most" people who deal with "energetic work" to suffer from some level of delusion, unfortunately. Not all of course, but rare are the people who favor a more sober, scientific approach. But, if Reiki works regardless of the receiver's state of mind (as evidenced by the fact that even complete skepticism doesn't seem to hinder it's efficacy), then I would expect the same to be true in regards to the practitioner's state of mind. Of course, that doesn't mean something "else" couldn't be passed along besides Reiki. That is a possibility to consider.

True, there is also the matter of intent that would make me pause. Without knowing what this practitioner intends or understands health to be, or how that notion is informed in their mind because of everything they've delved into, I would be cautious.

 

[Vajra91]

True, there is also the matter of intent that would make me pause. Without knowing what this practitioner intends or understands health to be, or how that notion is informed in their mind because of everything they've delved into, I would be cautious.

Fair point.. I guess his intent would most probably be colored by his other interests. Maybe I'm underestimating that aspect.

There are many "bad" reiki practitioners from the western style reiki in my vicinity. I decided to get my attunement from a Jikiden teacher (not too far away 1 hour drive). I don't know if Jikiden is purer, but it does seem that way to me at least in my area. I checked and there are three places in Nothern Italy where you can get attunements.

Nonetheless I don't think it is neccesarily better. My friend found her master through looking at courses near her, found someone who did it for a very long time (90s) and was very open about her lineage.

Thank you for taking the time to check that! You're right, jikiden teachers would be available in northern Italy, and (from a cursory glance, for now) it does look interesting. Seemingly free from external influences and with a pretty straight lineage.

I live in southern Italy, so pretty costly to reach for me, I would have to wait until sometime next year at least. Maybe it would be better to just pause at this point, I don't know.
Either way, aside from my personal situation, definitely worth checking out