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1 The NKVD is best known for the Main Directorate for State Security (GUGB), which succeeded the OGPU and the Cheka as the secret police agency of the Soviet Union. Many consider the NKVD to be a criminal organization, mostly for the activities of GUGB officers and investigators, as well as supporting NKVD troops and GULAG guards. The NKVD was also responsible for administering Stalin's foreign intelligence service and overseas 'special operations'. These NKVD sub-branches were responsible for the recruitment of spies and gathering of political, military, and economic intelligences from other countries, the liquidation of political enemies residing outside the Soviet Union, subversion of foreign governments, and enforcing Stalinist policy within Communist Party movements in other countries. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD

2 http://www.bnm.me.gov.ar/barras/novedades/boletin_electronicoBNM/boletin_27/hallazgos/02.htm

3 Original titles: “El encanto de la conspiración”, “Autores, cómplices y encubridores del comunismo”, and “Yo y Moscú.”

4 http://perso.wanadoo.es/madrid1939/recensiones.htm

5 http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html, copied from the last page of the original book, entitled “WARNINGS.”

6 Note: No reference is made about him on the Internet. This is rather normal, given that he was “a nobody” at that point in time and space. But his name could have been changed to conserve his anonymity.

7 http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html

8 Apparently, this is his real name. In the original, his name is spelled as: Gabrilo Gabrilovich Kuzmin, Gabriel Díaz and Gabriel Bonín. What is surprising, though, is that, the same as for Dr. Landowski, there is not any information available about him on the Internet. Is this because he didn’t exist, and he was a name given to an anonymous person?

9 http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html

10 http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html

11 http://www.qfgpublishing.com/product_info.php?products_id=54

12 http://www.qfgpublishing.com/product_info.php?products_id=54

13 State Political Directorate was the secret police of the RSFSR and USSR until 1934. Formed from the Cheka on February 6, 1922, it was initially known under the Russian abbreviation GPU for Gosudarstvennoye Politicheskoye Upravlenie of NKVD of the RSFSR (??????????????? ???????????? ?????????? ???? ?????).

14 From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda : Genrikh Grigor'evich Yagoda (Russian: ?????? ??????????? ?????; born Enokh Gershonovich Yagoda; 1891 – March 15, 1938) was the head of the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, from 1934 to 1936. Yagoda was born in Rybinsk in a Jewish family, and joined the Bolsheviks in 1907. After the October Revolution of 1917, he rose through the ranks of the Cheka (the NKVD's predecessor), becoming Felix Dzerzhinsky's second deputy in September 1923. After Dzerzhinsky's death in July 1926, Yagoda became deputy chairman under Vyacheslav Menzhinsky. Due to Menzhinsky's serious illness, Yagoda was in effective control of the secret police in the late 1920s. After losing a power struggle with Menzhinsky's other deputies in 1931 Yagoda was demoted to second deputy chairman. On July 10, 1934, two months after Menzhinsky's death, Joseph Stalin appointed Yagoda "People's Commissar for Internal Affairs," a position that included oversight of regular as well as secret police.

[…] Yagoda oversaw the interrogation process leading to the first Moscow Show Trial and subsequent execution of former Soviet leaders Grigory Zinoviev and Lev Kamenev in August 1936, an important milestone in Stalin's Great Purge. However, on September 16, 1936 he was replaced by Nikolai Yezhov, who oversaw the height of the purges in 1937-1938. In March 1937 Yagoda was arrested. He was found guilty of treason and conspiracy against the Soviet government at the show Trial of the Twenty One in March 1938. […] Yagoda was executed by shooting shortly after the trial.

15 From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgenii_MillerEvgenii Karlovich Miller (Russian: ??????? ???????? ??????) (September 25, 1867–May 11, 1938) was Russian general and one of the leaders of counterrevolutionary White movement during and after Russian Civil War.

Miller was a career officer born in a Russian-German family in Dvinsk (now Daugavpils, Latvia). After he graduated from the General Staff Academy he served with Russian Imperial Guard. Between 1898 and 1907 he was a Russian military attaché in several European capitals such as Rome, The Hague and Brussels. During the First World War headed Moscow military district and 5th Russian army and was promoted to the rank of lieutenant general.

After the February Revolution of 1917 General Miller opposed "democratization" of the Russian army and was arrested by his own soldiers after he ordered them to remove red arm bands.

After the October Bolshevik coup Miller fled to Archangelsk and declared himself Governor-General of Northern Russia. In May of 1919 Admiral Kolchak appointed him to be in charge of the White army in the region. In Archangelsk, Murmansk and Olonets his anti-Bolshevik army was supported by the Entente, mostly British forces. However, after unsuccessful advance against the Red Army along the Northern Dvina in the summer of 1919, British forces withdrew from the region and Miller's men faced the enemy alone.

In February 1920, General Miller left Archangelsk for Norway. Later he moved to France and together with Grand Duke Nicholas and Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel continued anti-Bolshevik activity.

Between 1930 and 1937 Miller was a chairman of the Russian All-Military Union. On September 22, 1937 he was kidnapped in Paris by NKVD agent Nikolai Skoblin working for Inner Line organization, Miller was taken to Le Havre and from there he was taken by cargoship to Soviet Union. Evgenii Miller was executed on May 11, 1938 in Moscow.



16 There is not information available under this name, on the Internet.

17 This is his real name, but the correct way to spell it is: Nikolai Ivanovitch Yezhov.

From http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Nikolai+Ivanovich+Yezhov : Yezhov was born in St. Petersburg. He completed only elementary education. (…) From 1915 to 1917, Yezhov served in the Tsarist Russian army. He joined the Bolsheviks on May 5, 1917 in Vitebsk, a few months before the October Revolution. During the Russian Civil War 1919–1921 he fought in the Red Army. After February 1922, he worked in the political system, mostly as a secretary of various regional committees of the Communist Party. In 1927 he was transferred to the Accounting and Distribution Department of the Communist Party where he worked as an instructor and acting head of the department. From 1929 to 1930 he was the Deputy of the People's Commissar for Agriculture. In November 1930 he was appointed to the Head of several departments of the Communist Party: department of special affairs, department of personnel and department of industry. In 1934 he was elected to the Central Committee of the Communist Party; in the next year he became a secretary of the Central Committee. From February 1935 to March 1939 he was also the Chairman of the Central Commission for Party Control.

In the "Letter of an Old Bolshevik" (1936), which is purported to be the musings of Nikolai Bukharin, there is this contemporary description of Yezhov: "In the whole of my long life, I have never met a more repellent personality than Yezhov's. When I look at him I am reminded irresistibly of the wicked urchins of the courts in Rasterayeva Street, whose favorite occupation was to tie a piece of paper dipped in parafin to a cat's tail, set fire to it, and then watch with delight how the terrified animal would tear down the street, trying desperately but in vain to escape the approaching flames. I do not doubt that in his childhood Yezhov amused himself in just such a manner and that he is now continuing to do so in different forms. Physically, Yezhov was very short in stature - and that, combined with his sadistic personality led to his nickname 'The Poisoned Dwarf' or 'The Bloody Dwarf'.

He was known as a determined loyalist of Joseph Stalin, and in 1935 he wrote a paper in which he argued that political opposition must eventually lead to violence and terrorism; this became in part the ideological basis of the Purges. He became People's Commissar for Internal Affairs (head of the NKVD) and a member of the Presidium Central Executive Committee on September 26, 1936, following the dismissal of Genrikh Yagoda. Under Yezhov, the purges reached their height, with roughly half of the Soviet political and military establishment being imprisoned or shot, along with hundreds of thousands of others, suspected of disloyalty or "wrecking". Yezhov also conducted a thorough purge of the security organs, both NKVD and GRU, removing and shooting many officials who had been appointed by his predecessors Yagoda and Menzhinsky. The effectiveness of the GRU as a military intelligence agency was virtually destroyed as experienced case officers were recalled from abroad and executed, leading in part to the USSR's disastrous performance in the Winter War with Finland.

(…) Although he was also appointed to the post of People's Commissar for Water Transport on April 8, 1938, maintaining his other posts, his role was gradually diminishing. On August 22, 1938, Lavrenty Beria became the deputy to Yezhov and took over the governance of the Commissariat. When Stalin and Vyacheslav Molotov criticized heavily the work and methods of the NKVD in their writing of November 11, 1938, he was relieved of his post as the People's Commissar for Internal Affairs at his own request on November 25, 1938, and Beria succeeded him. His noted homosexual inclinations were also displeasing to Stalin. On March 3, 1939 Yezhov was relieved of all his posts in the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. On April 10, 1939 he was arrested. The Soviet judge Ulrikh tried him in Beria's office. Yezhov refused Beria's suggestion that he confess to a plot to kill Stalin saying "it is better to leave this earth as an honourable man". On 3/4 February he was shot. His ashes were dumped in a common grave at Donskoi Cemetery (Montefiore, Stalin 288).

Note: In this other website, http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/24.html , there is another version of his death, and in the book the reader will see still another version: In October he was removed from his post. He was arrested in January 1939 and liquidated after atrocious torture. According to unconfirmed data, he was buried alive at the NKVD sanatorium at Sukhanovo.

18 See footnote 1.

19 There is not information available under this name, on the Internet.

20 From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comintern : The Comintern (Russian: ???????????????? ?????????????, Kommunisticheskiy Internatsional – Communist International, also known as the Third International) was an international Communist organization founded in March 1919, in the midst of the "war communism" period (1918-1921), by Vladimir Lenin and the Russian Communist Party (Bolshevik), which intended to fight "by all available means, including armed force, for the overthrow of the international bourgeoisie and for the creation of an international Soviet republic as a transition stage to the complete abolition of the State." The Comintern was founded after the dissolving of the Second International in 1916, following the 1915 Zimmerwald Conference in which Lenin led the "Zimmerwald Left" against those who supported the "national union" governments in war with each other. The new International thus represented a response to the latter's failure to form a unified coalition against the First World War, which the founders of the Third Internationalists regarded as a bourgeois imperialist war and which the whole of the anti-militarist socialist movement had been completely opposed to until the beginning of the war itself.

The Comintern held seven World Congresses, the first in March 1919 and the last in 1935, until it was officially dissolved in May 1943. In 1938 the Trotskyists, opposed to the Soviet Union which they qualified as a "degenerated workers' state", created the Fourth International. Groups coming from the tradition of Left Communism today recognize only the first two congresses, and groups coming out of the Trotskyist movement recognize the decisions of the first four only. Communist parties of the Stalinist or Maoist persuasion recognize all seven congresses. At the start of World War II, the Comintern supported a policy of pacifism and non-intervention, arguing that this was an imperialist war between various national ruling classes, much like World War I had been. In fact, Stalin was instrumentalizing it, in accordance with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signed with Germany in August 1939, a year after the Munich Agreement in which the Soviet Union hadn't been invited and during which Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland had been delivered to Hitler by the French and British democratic regimes in a measure of "appeasement". However, when the Soviet Union itself was invaded on June 22, 1941, during Operation Barbarossa, the Comintern switched its position to one of active support for the Allies. The Comintern was subsequently officially dissolved on May 15, 1943. Its successor, the Cominform, was created in September 1947, following the Paris Conference on Marshall Aid in July 1947. The Cold War had officially begun.



21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Zinoviev

22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotsky

23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Radek

24 From the Spanish banca judía. Banca means “a group of bankers or banks” ; judío/a means Jew or Jewish

25 In Chapter XVI, G says that Kilinov’s real name is BERZIN. From http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/24.html : 2nd Grade Army Commissar BERZIN, Yan Karlovich (real name Kyuzis Peteris): 13.11.1889 — 29.7.38. Born in Latvia, Berzin joined the Social-Democratic Party in 1904. He was conscripted into the army in the First World War but deserted and went underground. He took part in the October Revolution and afterwards he worked in the central apparatus of the NKVD and in the NKVD in Latvia. One of the main organisers of the 'Red Terror', he initiated the hostages system. He was also a fervent supporter of the establishment of a communist dictatorship in Latvia and one of the organisers and leaders of the Latvian Red Army (subsequently the 15th Army). He was head of a special department of this army and played a part in the suppression of the Russian sailors' mutiny at Kronstadt. He particularly distinguished himself in the course of the pursuit and liquidation of captured sailors. >From April 1921 he was Deputy Head of Intelligence Directorate (GRU) but, from his first days in military intelligence, he was, de facto, its head. With effect from March 1924 he became its head legally as well. He was one of the most talented, industrious and successful heads of intelligence, the creator of the most powerful and successful intelligence organisations in existence anywhere. He personally recruited and ran the most outstanding intelligence officers — Yakov Mrachkovski (Gorev), Moshe Milstein (Mikhail M), Ruth and Rolf Werner, Richard Sorge, Lev Manevich, Sandor Rado, Karl Ramm, Aino Kuusinen, Ignati Reis and the most eminent intelligence officer of the 20th century, Konstantin Efremov. In 1936 Berzin transferred the Soviet military intelligence command post from Moscow to Madrid, where he carried out his most notable recruitments while he was working under cover, officially designated as chief military adviser to the Republican Government. In order to sustain this cover story his deputies Uritski and Unshlikht carried out his duties in Moscow. On returning from Spain he continued to lead military intelligence. On 13 May 1938 he was arrested and on 29 July he was shot.

26 His real name is Navachin. See footnote 28.

27 See footnote 19.

28 “Rakovsky's testimony, though it differs from most of the well-known historical versions of events, is nonetheless confirmed by a whole series of sources. For example, the fact that the White government was formed of "allies" from among the Masons was accepted as fact by the well-known writer Roman Gul. The support given by Wall Street magnates to Hitler was confirmed later, after the end of the Second World War. Other details are also worthy of attention: for example the fleeting reference in the text of The Red Symphony to "your acquaintance Navachin", a garbled translation from Spanish of Dmitry Navashin (with whom Rakovsky was indeed acquainted), the director of the Franco-Soviet Bank, the safekeeper of Trotsky's funds and a leading Mason. (He was killed in 1935 near Paris in unexplained circumstances. The spouse of the deceased declared in a "Paris-Soir" interview: "They killed my husband because he knew too much. He was the victim of powerful, worldwide occult forces.")” from http://boards.historychannel.com/thread.jspa;jsessionid=abcFSTRrxUjWD7vv01Z6q?forumID=101&threadID=600024182&messageID=600413146#600413146 Red Symphony could then be proving that Navachin wasn’t killed by any « powerful, worldwide occult forces », but by Gabriel for self-defence and to defeat the antifascists.

29 Real name: B’nai B’rith. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27nai_B%27rith : The Independent Order of B'nai B'rith (Hebrew: ??? ????, "Sons of the Covenant") is the oldest continually-operating Jewish service organization in the world. It was founded in New York City by Henry Jones and 11 others on October 13, 1843.

The organization is engaged in a wide variety of community service and welfare activities, including the promotion of Jewish rights, assisting hospitals and victims of natural disasters, awarding scholarships to Jewish college students, and opposing anti-semitism through its Center for Human Rights and Public Policy.

Besides its welfare activities, B'nai B'rith is also a vocal supporter of Israel. Together with AIPAC, it created in 2002 an initiative called 'BBYO 4 Israel'.

Also, until 2001, B'nai B'rith sponsored the B'nai B'rith Youth Organization (BBYO), which is now BBYO, Inc. BBYO, an organization for high school-age Jewish teens, was founded in 1923, and is comprised of the boys' order, Aleph Zadik Aleph (AZA), and the girls' order, B'nai B'rith Girls (BBG).



30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKW

31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung : The Sturmabteilung (help•info) (SA, German for "Storm Division", usually translated as stormtroops or stormtroopers) functioned as a paramilitary organization of the NSDAP – the German Nazi party. It played a key role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1930s. SA men were often known as brownshirts from the color of their uniform and to distinguish them from the SS who wore black (compare the Italian blackshirts). Brown coloured shirts were chosen as the SA uniform because a large batch of them were cheaply available after World War I, having originally been ordered for German troops in Africa. The SA was also the first Nazi paramilitary group to develop pseudo-military titles for bestowal upon its members. The SA ranks would be adopted by several other Nazi Party groups, chief among them the SS.



32 See footnote 1

33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Gamarnik Yan Borisovich Gamarnik (Belarusian: ?? ???????? 1894-1937) was First Secretary of the Belarusian Communist Party from December 1928 to October 1929.[1] He was condemned for Trotskyist conspiracy after the Case of Trotskyist Anti-Soviet Military Organization in 1937; however, shortly before the trial he had actually been called upon by the Soviet government to be one of the judges for the accused. He inisisted on Tukhachevsky's (a prominent figure in the trial) innocence and later killed himself before he could be punished for his actions. Only after this was he added to the list of conspirators.



34 From http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/24.html : Corps Commander URITSKI, Solomon Petrovich: 1895-1937 was chief of the GRU during Berzin's absence.

35 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazare_Kaganovitch

36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tukhachevsky : Mikhail Nikolayevich Tukhachevsky (Russian: ?????? ?????????? ???????????, Polish: Micha? Tuchaczewski) (February 16, 1893 [O.S. February 4] – June 12, 1937), Soviet military commander, was one of the most prominent victims of Stalin's Great Purge of the late 1930s.

Tukhachevsky was born on his family estate Alexandrovskoye (currently Safonovsky District, Smolensk Oblast) into an aristocratic family of Polish origin. He graduated from the Aleksandrovskye Military School in 1914, joining the Semyenovsky Guards Regiment. A second lieutenant during World War I, Tukhachevsky was decorated for personal courage in the battles. After he was taken prisoner by the Germans in February 1915, he escaped four times from the camps, was captured again, and finally as an incorrigible escapee held in Ingolstadt fortress, where he met another incorrigible - the then captain Charles de Gaulle.

His fifth escape was successful, and he returned to Russia in October 1917. After the Russian Revolution he joined the Bolshevik Party. He became an officer in the Red Army and rapidly advanced in rank due to his great ability. During the Russian Civil War he was given responsibility for defending Moscow. The Bolshevik Defence Commissar Leon Trotsky gave Tukhachevsky command of the 5th Army in 1919, and he led the campaign to capture Siberia from the White forces of Aleksandr Kolchak. He also helped defeat General Anton Denikin in the Crimea in 1920. Both the Kronstadt rebellion and the Tambov peasant revolt were crushed by forces under Tukhachevsky's command.

(…)In 1935 Tukhachevsky was made a Marshal of the Soviet Union, aged only 42. In January 1936 Tukhachevsky visited Britain, France and Germany. It was subsequently alleged, and may possibly be true, that during these visits he contacted anti-Stalin Russian exiles and began plotting against Stalin.

Tukhachevsky was arrested on May 22, 1937, and charged with organization of "military-Trotskyist conspiracy" and espionage for Nazi Germany. After a secret trial, known as Case of Trotskyist Anti-Soviet Military Organization, Tukhachevsky and eight other higher military commanders were convicted, and executed on June 12, 1937.

On January 31, 1957, Tukhachevsky and his colleagues were declared to have been innocent of all charges against them and were "rehabilitated." Both before and since the fall of the Soviet Union, however, some writers have suggested that there really was a military conspiracy against Stalin in which Tukhachevsky was involved.



37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Dybenko

38 Copied from http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html

39 Yezhov.

40 Former NKVD doctor, was a co-defendant with Rakovsky at the trial.

41 OKW - Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, Supreme Command of the German Army - Transl.

42 [T’s Note: I think that the proper translation here should have been: “… contradictions of Capitalism, and of the Financial International in particular, are…”

43 Wilson's Point 6 read: "The evacuation of all Russian territory, and such a settlement of all questions affecting Russia as will secure the best and freest co-operation of the other nations of the world in obtaining for her an unhampered and unembarrassed opportunity for the independent determination of her own poliical development and national policy, and assure her of a sincere welcome into the society of free nations under institutions of her own choosing, and more than a welcome, assistance also of every kind that she may need and may herself desire. The treatment accorded Russia by her sister nations in the months to come will be the acid test of their good will, of heir comprehension of her needs as distinguished from their own interests, and of their intelligent and unselfish symoathy." - Transl.

44 It will be observed that twice Rakovsky states that Stalin had been Lenin's chief; this may be a misunderstanding - Transl.

45 Rakovsky is wrong, as he mentions in "Mein Kampf" Hitler had read the works of Gottfried Feder - Transl.

46 The problem of a scientific formulation of this question and the propounding of a corresponding programme has engaged the active altention of the publishers of this book and their associates for some years. Their conclusion have been published. In the translator's book "The Struggle for World Power," second edition 1963, p. 79 a full solution of the monetary problem is set out, and on p. 237 there is a full economic, political and social programme. These conclusions can be obtained on application.

47 As is well known, Stalin followed the advice of Rakovsky. There was a pact with Hitler. Also the Second World War served solely the interests of the revolution. The secret of these changes of policy can be understood from [this] conversation between Gabriel and Doctor Landowsky, http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html



48 The illness is not named by the translator
 

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Laura said:
The source of this book:

"This is the result of a painstaking translation of several copybooks found on the body of Dr. Landowski in a hut on the Petrograd front (Leningrad) by a Spanish volunteer.
This part in the introduction is already one of the first bizarre starting points. "Petrograd front" means the seige of Leningrad. Since no one else seems to know anything about this alleged "Landowski" the only way that such biographical details about an alleged unknown dead men could have been found would have been by painstaking on the spot research into an unknown dead man's background. This allegedly occurs in the midst of a ferocious war when unknown dead bodies were a dime a dozen. Yet without being told any details about how this inquiry was conducted we're suddenly given a brief but fairly comprehensive description of the man's life background. That's impossible in the real world.

The book doesn't bear any resemblance to reality either. If we were to accept the fable of Leon Trotsky as having been a Rothschild agent as is claimed here, then one should naturally look for evidence of Trotsky being aided after his exile from the USSR in 1929. In fact, very few political refugees of the 20th century were so repeatedly denied refugee status by so many countries as Trotsky. It would be much easier to build a logical argument in support of the KGB's charges that Solzhenitsyn was a CIA agent. Although know of any reason to believe that the man began his career that way, it is a fact that once Solzhenitsyn was quickly granted refugee status here in the USA he then became a celebrity for the Right-wing which carried Ronald Reagan into office. But in Trotsky's case the almost global rejection of him as a refugee anywhere in the world makes nonsense of the claim that he was any type of Rothschild agent.
 

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There are a number of bizarre things about the book. That is why the following was included:

The original author and the translator:

Though the style might seem authentic and simple, coming from the doctor Landowski himself, one cannot be sure about who the real author might be: It could be M. Carlavilla himself, or someone else who put this diary in the hands of the doctor before he died. In any case, it is obviously someone who knew very well the details about the events and personal information concerning the leading characters of the period of history.

The fact that this book was forbidden in many countries after its publication, and that there are only a few copies left available in the market, might be a hint as to its authenticity and the consequent danger to those in power should the information contained in the book reach a wider audience.

However, even though most of what is said in this book can be proved to be true in our studies, we cannot be sure about the complete authenticity of the content in this book. The reason for this is that the translator, Mauricio Carlavilla was quite engaged politically. He wrote “The Charm of the Conspiracy”, “Authors, accomplices and cover-ups for Communism”, “Me and Moscow” , etc. We also found certain clues on the Internet indicating that he might have been a pro-nazi. This could or could not be true. It is true that he does not talk about Nazism in Red Symphony, but at the same time, what is said in the book can be proved true today.
 

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The fact that this book was forbidden in many countries after its publication, and that there are only a few copies left available in the market, might be a hint as to its authenticity
This much at least can, I believe, be accounted for by the widespread suppression of any remotely pro-Nazi literature which followed World War II. Things have narrowed somewhat since now they're more likely to target expert revisionists like Robert Faurisson or chemists who produce undesired conclusions like Germar Rudolf, rather than just any old Nazi literature. In fact, Rudolf's prosecutors would have preferred it had he produced a wild racist tirade rather than a professional chemical analysis. But after WWII there were some major book-burnings and the like to destroy all or most of the former Nazi literature. I don't think that one should need to assume that very much of this literature was really accurate in any major way in order to argue that such practices have always bred a wide-ranging tendency of censorship. In such a context there's nothing odd about one more book which could be linked with pro-Nazi sources getting banned. That's no reason to think that the book is really correct on anything more than just some general facts which could be picked up anywhere (e.g., Stalin and Trotsky were political opponents).
 

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PatrickSMcNally said:
Laura said:
The fact that this book was forbidden in many countries after its publication, and that there are only a few copies left available in the market, might be a hint as to its authenticity
This much at least can, I believe, be accounted for by the widespread suppression of any remotely pro-Nazi literature which followed World War II. Things have narrowed somewhat since now they're more likely to target expert revisionists like Robert Faurisson or chemists who produce undesired conclusions like Germar Rudolf, rather than just any old Nazi literature. In fact, Rudolf's prosecutors would have preferred it had he produced a wild racist tirade rather than a professional chemical analysis. But after WWII there were some major book-burnings and the like to destroy all or most of the former Nazi literature. I don't think that one should need to assume that very much of this literature was really accurate in any major way in order to argue that such practices have always bred a wide-ranging tendency of censorship. In such a context there's nothing odd about one more book which could be linked with pro-Nazi sources getting banned. That's no reason to think that the book is really correct on anything more than just some general facts which could be picked up anywhere (e.g., Stalin and Trotsky were political opponents).
As I posted regarding your glib side-stepping of main issues in another thread:

Laura said:
anart said:
Hello, Patrick, I find it interesting that you consistently look for discrepancies in any of the information presented here to 'disprove' things - in a very legalistic and surprisingly illogical manner - very much 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' - even when the dirty bathwater is not dirty, if you follow my meaning.
That's true, I've noticed it myself. It amounts to a certain combination of your inability to grok the crux of the matter, the dynamics, the line of force, while focusing on minor details. You know the old "can't see the forest for the trees" routine? Well, that pretty well describes it.

For example, there is a lot in the early pages of this thread that has already covered things that you are attempting to resurrect. You know the saying "beating a dead horse?"

I don't know if what you are thinking/writing is intentionally misleading, or if it is just a constitution problem of your general make-up. We have encountered several individuals with this same problem and, over time, have come to understand that it is a a typical product of conversive thinking: subconscious selection and substitution of data lead to chronic avoidance of the crux of the matter. Psychologist, Andrzej Lobaczewski addresses this problem as more or less characteristic of the U.S. in recent times, and a predictor of political disaster:

Europeans living in the U.S. today are struck by the similarity [of the social and political] phenomena and the ones dominating Europe at the times of their youth. The emotionalism dominating individual, collective and political life, as well as the subconscious selection and substitution of data in reasoning, are impoverishing the development of a psychological world-view and leading to individual and national egotism. The mania for taking offense at the drop of a hat provokes constant retaliation, taking advantage of hyper-irritability and hypo-criticality on the part of others. This can be considered analogous to the European dueling mania of those times.

People fortunate enough to achieve a position higher than someone else are contemptuous of their supposed inferiors in a way highly reminiscent of czarist Russian customs. Turn-of-the-century Freudian psychology finds fertile soil in this country because of the similarity in social and psychological conditions.

America’s psychological recession drags in its wake an impaired socio-professional adaptation of this country’s people, leading to a waste of human talent and an involution of societal structure. If we were to calculate this country’s adaptation correlation index, as suggested in the prior chapter, it would probably be lower than the great majority of the free and civilized nations of this world, and possibly lower than some countries which have lost their freedom. A highly talented individual in this country finds it ever more difficult to fight his way through to his right to self-realization and a socially creative position. Universities, politics, and even some business areas ever more frequently demonstrate an united front of relatively untalented persons. The word “overeducated” is heard more and more often. Such “overqualified” individuals finally hide out in some foundation laboratory where they are allowed to earn the Nobel prize. In the meantime, the country as whole suffers due to a deficit in the inspirational role of highly gifted individuals.

As a result, America is stifling progress in all areas of life, from culture to technology and economics, not excluding political incompetence. When linked to other deficiencies, an egotist’s incapability of understanding other people and nations leads to political error and the scapegoating of outsiders. Slamming the brakes on the evolution of political structures and social institutions increases both administrative inertia and discontent on the part of its victims.
As for an exact description of your identifiable thinking processes, and what could have caused them:

Lobaczewski said:
Reversive blockade: Emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person’s mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the “golden mean” between the truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit.

People who think like this do not realize that this was precisely the intent of the person who subjected them to this method. If such a statement is the opposite of a moral truth, at the same time, it simultaneously represents an extreme paramoralism, and bears its peculiar suggestiveness.

We rarely see this method being used by normal people; even if raised by the people who abused it, they usually only indicate its results in the shape of characteristic difficulties in apprehending reality properly. Use of this method can be included within the above-mentioned psychological knowledge developed by psychopaths concerning the weaknesses of human nature and the art of leading others into error. Where they are in rule, this method is used with virtuosity, and to an extent conterminous with their power.

Information selection and substitution: The existence of psychological phenomena known a long time ago to pre-Freudian philosophical students of the subconscious bears repeating. Unconscious psychological processes outstrip conscious reasoning, both in time and in scope, which makes many psychological phenomena possible: including those generally described as conversive, such as subconscious blocking out of conclusions, the selection, and, also, substitution of seemingly uncomfortable premises.

We speak of blocking out conclusions if the inferential process was proper in principle and has almost arrived at a conclusion and final comprehension within the act of internal projection, but becomes stymied by a preceding directive from the subconscious, which considered it inexpedient or disturbing. This is primitive prevention of personality disintegration, which may seem advantageous; however, it also prevents all the advantages which could be derived from consciously elaborated conclusion and reintegration. A conclusion thus rejected remains in our subconscious and in a more unconscious way causes the next blocking and selection of this kind. This can be totally harmful, progressively enslaving a person to his own subconscious, and is often accompanied by a feeling of tension and bitterness.

We speak of selection of premises whenever the feedback goes deeper into the resulting reasoning and from its database thus deletes and represses into the subconscious just that piece of information which was responsible for arriving at the uncomfortable conclusion. Our subconscious then permits further logical reasoning, except that the outcome will be erroneous in direct proportion to the actual significance of the repressed data. An ever-greater number of such repressed information is collected in our subconscious memory. Finally, a kind of habit seems to take over: similar material is treated the same way even if reasoning would have reached an outcome quite advantageous to the person.

The most complex process of this type is substitution of premises thus eliminated by other data, ensuring an ostensibly more comfortable conclusion. Our associative ability rapidly elaborates a new item to replace the removed one, but it is one leading to a comfortable conclusion. This operation takes the most time, and it is unlikely to be exclusively subconscious. Such substitutions are often effected collectively, in certain groups of people, through the use of verbal communication. That is why they best qualify for the moralizing epithet “hypocrisy” than either of the above-mentioned processes.
"Subconscious selection and substitution of premises" is also characteristic of dissociation. You might wish to read Martha Stout's book "They Myth of Sanity" for deeper insight into this problem that is widespread in the U.S. Another good one for you to read is "Trapped In the Mirror," which is about narcissism.

Finally, go back and re-read the rules of the forum and the reason for it's existence. Somehow, I don't think you have grokked the crux of that matter either.
 

PatrickSMcNally

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Laura said:
As I posted regarding your glib side-stepping of main issues in another thread
I don't see anything glib about pointing out that the document is not authentic and makes insinuations which don't match with verifiable historical facts.
 

anart

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This is rather interesting. Is the part you excerpted above all you grasped about the post? Do you understand the idea that you are consistently missing the crux of the matter and that this may speak to a conversive thought process? For what it's worth, and no offence intended at all, but this response of yours is 'glib' - it is surface and shallow; without deeper understanding. One wonders at this point if the response, in its 'glib-ness' was meant to be ironic - or if it speaks, again, to an underlying thought process?
 

GRiM

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I found "Red Symphony" translated by George Knupffer (english, Peter Myers, December 31, 2003; update November 26, 2006):
It got lots of links that I haven't followed but It might be of interest.
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html (the whole book, with highlighting)
 

PatrickSMcNally

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I won't pretend to offer any psychoanalytical debate, but just to make note of another more general fallacy in the whole document. Things like the reference to a "World Bank" which I'd noted before are clearly false in a very specific way since no World Bank existed in 1938. But more generally, the overusage of the word "Communism" by an alleged "Christian Rakovsky" should be a tip-off that the document has something false about it. Calling the Soviet Union "Communist," speaking of a "Communist" world, and the like, these were linguistic patterns popular on the conservative Right during that era. But the revolutionaries themselves did not use this word in the same way. Within the Marxist schemata of history, the broadly projected stages of history follow from feudalism to capitalism to socialism to communism. This was why the full title of the Soviet Union was "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics." Stalin had claimed that by 1936 at the latest, the Soviet Union had actually succeeded in creating socialism. Trotsky in exile had rejected this description and popularized among his followers the description of the Soviet Union as a "bureaucratically degenerated workers' state," the theme being that the state of property ownership relations had made this a "workers' state" but that on the bad side it was "bureaucratically degenerated." According to this viewof Trotsky's, the USSR had not even yet achieved socialism. The terms which can be found in actual citations from the real Christian Rakovsky are more often "proletarian dictatorship," "proletarian state," and similar phrases. In the Marxist scheme of things, capitalism, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, is overthrown by proletarian revolution and the resulting proletarian state, ruled by the proletarian dictatorship, sets out to build socialism. This takes a long historical epoch in itself. Eventually, far in the future, the newly built socialist state begins to metamorphosize into communism as the state now begins to whither away, having served its historical function. The long drawn-out discussion in this script between an alleged Rakovsky and his interrogator makes repeated usage of the word "Communism" in discussing whether or not the Soviet Union has achieved true "Communism" or merely formal "Communism." Such a question would never arise in a conversation with the real Rakovsky. One might have a debate over whether or not the "proletarian dictatorship" had achieved the creation of "socialism" yet (Stalin claimed that it had by 1936 at least), but the word "Communism" would never arise in this way with the actual Rakovsky. This bears very much the markings of a script assembled by an anti-Communist author using language which would strike a chord among a conservative audience for whom the document is meant to be given.
 

anart

The Living Force
Let's try this again - could you, perhaps, pay less attention to the words themselves, and more attention to the ideas behind the words? That might prove much more fruitful.
 

PatrickSMcNally

Padawan Learner
anart said:
Let's try this again - could you, perhaps, pay less attention to the words themselves, and more attention to the ideas behind the words? That might prove much more fruitful.
If we wish to decide upon the validity of an alleged document then paying close attention to specific words is essential. If we are willing to acknowledge it as literary fiction from the onset, then that's a different question. The ideas behind the piece most likely were to provide an ideological justification either for Franco personally in sending some troops to fight in the invasion of the Soviet Union, or possibly, if the item may have been written by a former Third Reich official living in exile in Spain, to provide such a justification for that person. This would fit with what we factually know about the document, its source, and textual character.
 

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Let's consider this term "world bank", that gives you such pause here. Much has been made of the use of this term by those who wish to dismiss "Red Symphony."


Moving to the context of the use of the term in the text we read:

Red Symphony said:
G. - Let us conclude: Who are they?

R. - You are so naive that you think that if I knew who "They" are, I would be here as a prisoner?

G. - Why?

R. - For a very simple reason, since he who is acquainted with them would not be put into a position in which he would be obliged to report on them ... This is an elementary rule of every intelligent conspiracy, which you must well understand.

G. - But you said that they are the bankers?

R. - Not I; remember that I always spoke of the financial International, and when mentioning persons I said "They" and nothing more. If you want that I should inform you openly then I shall only give facts, but not names, since I do not know them. I think I shall not be wrong if I tell you that not one of "Them" is a person who occupies a political position or a position in the World Bank.


As I understood after the murder of Rathenau in Rapallo, they give political or financial positions only to intermediaries. Obviously to persons who are trustworthy and loyal, which can be guaranteed a thousand ways: thus one can assert that bankers and politicians - are only men of straw ... even though they occupy very high places and are made to appear to be the authors of the plans which are carried out.

G. - Although all this can be understood and is also logical, but is not your declaration of not knowing only an evasion? As it seems to me, and according to the information I have, you occupied a sufficiently high place in this conspiracy to have known much more. You do not even know a single one of them personally?

R. - Yes, but of course you do not believe me. I have come to that moment where I had explained that I am talking about a person and persons with a personality ... how should one say? ... a mystical one, like Ghandi or something like that, but without any external display. Mystics of pure power, who have become free from all vulgar trifles. I do not know if you understand me? Well, as to their place of residence and names, I do not know them ... Imagine Stalin just now, in reality ruling the USSR, but not surrounded by stone walls, not having any personnel around him, and having the same guarantees for his life as any other citizen. By which means could he guard against attempts on his life? He is first of all a conspirator, however great his power, he is anonymous.

G. - What you are saying is logical, but I do not believe you. [538]

R. - But still believe me; I know nothing; if I knew then how happy I would be! I would not be here, defending my life. I well understand your doubts and that, in view of your police education, you feel the need for some knowledge about persons. To honour you and also because this is essential for the aim which we both have set ourselves. I shall do all I can in order to inform you.
Now, if you notice the context, you can see that the term is not really being used as codified nomenclature, but rather as a descriptive term. If you notice how the questioning proceeded, you can easily see how the individual came up with a descriptive term to try to make his interrogator understand him.

More than that, one of the things that we have considered is the fact that it is claimed that the text was translated into Spanish from French. We do not have the original French text and cannot know what exact terms were used to translate "world bank."

Thus, without that bit of data, and considering the context of the use of the term, we cannot make any real determinations about the book, or so easily dismiss it. As noted, there is a great deal in the book that could only be known by an insider - or someone close to the insiders - at the time.

And, as I point out above, the use of the term is not a use of a general nomenclature, but rather a description of a phenomenon that we certainly suspect existed for a very long time.

If two people could come up with the theory of evolution at the same time, and if certain words are descriptive of a specific phenomenon, then I suggest that balking at the use of this term without considering the entire context is like balking at the Protocols of Zion because it names "Jews" and not realizing that it is really the "protocols of the Pathocrats," i.e. pathological deviants as described by Lobaczewski.
 

PatrickSMcNally

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The thing to notice if one reads the contextual basis for the comment about a "world bank" is that he expects the listener to regard this as a publicly known institution. The context in which the reference arises is that he claims that after Rathenau's assassination, Rathenau was allegedly one of 'Them,' the group of 'Them' stopped holding positions which could give them public prominence and instead retreated into the shadows. This means by implication that the "world bank" in question is not some shadowy organization hidden away somewhere that one may speculate upon, but is an institution such that holding positions there would draw public notice the same way that Walter Rathenau drew public notice. The only such publicly known "world bank" that anyone has ever been aware of was formed out of the Bretton Woods conference of 1944. If one wishes to speculate that a secret "world bank" had existed long before, you may. But then the context of the discussion makes no sense at that point since the whole point of saying that not one of 'Them' holds any position at the "world bank" is that this would be a publicly known institution which would make 'Them' visible if they held positions there.
 

Laura

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PatrickSMcNally said:
The thing to notice if one reads the contextual basis for the comment about a "world bank" is that he expects the listener to regard this as a publicly known institution.
That is your opinion.

1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular
matter b : APPROVAL, ESTEEM

2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive
knowledge b : a generally held view

3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the formal
expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and
principles upon which a legal decision is based
PatrickSMcNally said:
The context in which the reference arises is that he claims that after Rathenau's assassination, Rathenau was allegedly one of 'Them,' the group of 'Them' stopped holding positions which could give them public prominence and instead retreated into the shadows.
And only later does he use the term "world bank" as a way to try to convey who this "them" is.

G. - Let us conclude: Who are they?
R. - You are so naive that you think that if I knew who "They" are, I would be here as a prisoner?

G. - Why?

R. - For a very simple reason, since he who is acquainted with them would not be put into a position in which he would be obliged to report on them ... This is an elementary rule of every intelligent conspiracy, which you must well understand.

G. - But you said that they are the bankers?

R. - Not I; remember that I always spoke of the financial International, and when mentioning persons I said "They" and nothing more.

If you want that I should inform you openly then I shall only give facts, but not names, since I do not know them.

I think I shall not be wrong if I tell you that not one of "Them" is a person who occupies a political position or a position in the World Bank.
Now, take the above in the context of what he just said, to wit:

Not I; remember that I always spoke of the financial International, and when mentioning persons I said "They" and nothing more.
... and you see that this is merely an additional explication of "the financial international", i.e. "world bank."

In the end, it is a useless argument because, as I said, we DO NOT KNOW what the text said in the original French and if what was translated into Spanish was just a "close and convenient" term.

It is your opinion that the book is a fraud and it hinges, mainly, on the use of this term. This is the opinion of others.

There are many who say that the conditions in the U.S. at this moment do NOT mirror those in Nazi Germany because everything is not "exactly the same." The same people will say that the Protocols of Zion are not the "plan" that is being followed by Pathocrats because everything is not "exactly as described." They forget the principles of non-linear dynamics and complex systems and how nothing is ever exactly the same, but that one needs to see behind the physical appearances to the noumena - the Platonic reality - to discover what Georges Dumezil called the "line of force."

When we have taken a particular text apart and have ascertained, as much as possible from what is exposed to us, the approximate legitimacy of each element, there still remains another question that actually constitutes the essence of the matter: What are the main trends of the whole? What are the lines of force running through the ideological field in which the details are placed? This is often where subjective belief enters the picture, acting as the lens through which we view our past and present, and the scale by which we judge the merits of fact vs. belief/opinion.

As mentioned above, this is often due to a certain "bias" of the mind, a tendency to select certain premises because those premises are familiar more than because they are true.

Being able to really strip away your biases, to really ASK a question in an open way, to be able to live with ambiguity until more data is received, is a very rare quality. But it is essential that we strive for this.
 

PatrickSMcNally

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Laura said:
... and you see that this is merely an additional explication of "the financial international", i.e. "world bank."
No, that is not correct. Even here in the words you've posted above the misreading is clear. The terms "They," Them" refer the "Finance International," whereas when speaking of the "world bank" the text specifically says that not of "Them" belongs to the "world bank." The context in which this arises is that, after mentioning the assassination of Walter Laqueur, he tells us that Laqueur was one of "Them" and this convinced "Them" to not hold any public positions hereafter. Therefore the lesson for the reader is that the "world bank" is a dummy institution which stands before the public while the "Finance International" sits in the background out of sight. Hence, we should be able to identify a public institution which existed in that time of 1938 and was known to the public as the "world bank."

Laura said:
It is your opinion that the book is a fraud and it hinges, mainly, on the use of this term.
The error made with the reference to the "world bank" is an interesting kind of technical point, but we shouldn't overplay the degree to which the evidence that this document is a fallacy depends upon it. It reads textually like something written by a Right-winger using phrases and ideas that would never be used by any of the actual Russian revolutionaries of that era. The idea that Trotsky had any type of working arrangement with such wealthy families as the Rothschilds during the 1930s will appear immediately absurd to anyone familiar with the actual treatment of Trotsky as a political exile during this time. Most countries on the planet simply refused to give him refugee status and the few which did usually held him under tight constraints with the condition that he should find another country to seek refugee status in as rapidly as possible. White officers like Generals Denikin or Wrangel had no settling abroad in reasonable comfort after their defeat in the civil war. But now we're saying that the big Rothschild agent is refused refuge or held in custody wherever he gains refuge? That's preposterous.

To take another related example, we're told that the alleged "Rakovsky" says that:

"Capitalism subjective, but Communism objective. A personal synthesis, truth: the Financial International, the Capitalist-Communist one."

This typically follows the way that political conservatives used to assert that the Soviet Union was "Communist" even though it was quite specifically not called such. In the actual arguments which Trotsky spent time writing up he rejected Stalin's claim that the Soviet Union had become "Socialist" and maintained instead that it was a "bureaucratically degenerated workers' state." But if we replace the word "Communist" in the above sentence with whatever our preferred term might be, we get an idea which may be partially compared with themes popular among German Social Democrats such Eduard Bernstein or Karl Kautsky, as well as other parties in the Second International such Norman Thomas' Socialist Party in the USA, but which has no similarity to anything which Trotsky would ever utter.

Eduard Bernstein had founded the concept of "evolutionary socialism" which hypothesized that, without a proletarian revolution occurring as theorized by Karl Marx, working just through the apparatus of the capitalist form of republican state, it would be possible for socialists to enact enough legal measures so as to cause the state to metamorphosize into a socialist society without any need for an actual revolution by the proletariat to occur. A prime reason why Trotsky was rejected as a political refugee by so many nations on earth was that it was known that he firmly held to the orthodox Marxist view that only a proletarian revolution would achieve the goal. Stalin allowed this idea to be played down quite a bit during the 1930s as a way of inviting liberals hostile to Hitler to be friendly towards the Soviet Union. In his memoirs Andrei Gromyko describes some friendly exchanges with Bernard Baruch, but that was possible because Baruch knew that as Stalin's representative Gromyko would not be stirring up any revolution. Trotsky in his search for political refugee status was rejected by the Roosevelt administration because they regarded him as a potential trouble-maker. The Socialist Workers Party was prosecuted under the Smith Act before the United States had even entered World War II, because the Roosevelt administration knew that Trotsky's followers treated the war as an inter-imperialist war. Now we're being asked to believe that Rakovsky claims that there is some type of "Capitalist-Communist" synthesis. That type of talk (without the word "Communist," but making a more direct reference to the Soviet Union's claim to building socialism) was normal among people who advocated the view that capitalism could simply evolve into socialism without any actual revolution occurring. This does not fit with Leon Trotsky, or anyone connected with him such as Christian Rakovsky, but it does fit with disinformation popularized among the Right-wing in the 1950s and '60s. There was back then a chain of faked quotes attributed variously to either Lenin or other Soviet leaders which ascribed something like Bernstein's evolutionary concept to them. Many of these were intended to target would-be social reformers with the charge that they were secretly working for "Communism." That line of conservative argument is consistent with the introduction of such terms as "Capitalist-Communist synethesis." But neither the real Rakovsky or the real Trotsky ever talked like that.
 
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