Remember remember.

[Guardian]

I think the point here is one of external consideration. Whether she was emotionally invested or not, the personal jabs in her posts were NOT called for.

In my experience, as long as you believe this, predators will consider you easy prey...and the attacks will continue.

That stuff wasn't necessary at all for a scratch test.

With all due respect, he's been here 5 years...and it took about 15 minutes worth of "That stuff" for him to EXPOSE HIMSELF as exactly what he is.....a VERY ABUSIVE MAN.

It's also interesting to see how the story is already getting twisted since the posts were deleted. What I allegedly wrote becomes more vile with each telling.....and it resembles the truth less and less. No one but those few who were awake in the wee hours saw the paragraph long insult he wrote about my parentage....or what I really said in response.

I never told him not to procreate, HE POSTED that he didn't want to procreate....and I thanked him.

Whatever..it's kinda irrelevant at this point. I don't do what I do where people don't want me to do it, that's the rule :)

 

[anart]

I think the point here is one of external consideration. Whether she was emotionally invested or not, the personal jabs in her posts were NOT called for.

In my experience, as long as you believe this, predators will consider you easy prey...and the attacks will continue.

I think you might be overestimating the 'evil' of Danny in this instance.

With all due respect, he's been here 5 years...and it took about 15 minutes worth of "That stuff" for him to EXPOSE HIMSELF as exactly what he is.....a VERY ABUSIVE MAN.

He's been 'around' for that long, but he's not been actively posting. He is asleep.

It's also interesting to see how the story is already getting twisted since the posts were deleted. What I allegedly wrote becomes more vile with each telling.....and it resembles the truth less and less. No one but those few who were awake in the wee hours saw the paragraph long insult he wrote about my parentage....or what I really said in response.

I never told him not to procreate, HE POSTED that he didn't want to procreate....and I thanked him.

Actually, I have both posts on the bridge, which is what we do when we remove a post and they are not being exaggerated. You thanked him for not procreating and then posted pictures of him. He wrote one really offensive sentence about your parentage - but you were the one who 'went there' first.

Whatever..it's kinda irrelevant at this point. I don't do what I do where people don't want me to do it, that's the rule :)

It's not irrelevant because you are a valued member of this forum. It's very relevant. No one is saying that you should not be you, 'you' is a great thing - what is being said is that there is a better, more effective way to do it.

Let's look at it this way... Danny posted a silly video here most likely because he thought it was funny and wanted to share it. Nothing wrong with that. Then, Gandalf responded to him with the standard, 'please explain why you posted this' direction since he posted a link with no explanation. Nothing wrong with that. Danny freaked out emotionally because that's what he has a tendency to do. He then recovered himself a bit, until further questioned (or provoked in his mind) at which time he made a really stupid and hurtful comment which has resulted in his removal from this forum. If he had not been further provoked, would he have made the comment? Likely not. Does it say something about him that he made the comment about the raffle? Yes, it does and it's not something good. It says that he strikes out in the most hurtful manner when threatened at all - and that he feels threatened very easily. This is not uncommon. It doesn't excuse it, but it's not uncommon. If handled differently, it would have gone differently.

Danny's longest thread on this forum dealt with a decision he made to kill himself in order to protest actions of the US government. After a discussion he didn't really want to be a part of, he changed his mind. His thinking isn't clear and he has no control over himself, but there is no evidence this guy is a psycho or out to do deliberate harm to anyone - so - was your response really warranted? Was an elephant gun needed in a situation with a purely mechanical over-reactive stoner? I don't think so, and even more importantly, I think that handling it differently might have actually served the forum and Danny better.

Not everyone who reads this forum is 'up to speed' - in fact, most people aren't and that's okay. We all started asleep - we all needed and need to be seen for who we are and spoken to at our level of 'being' - which is what we strive to do, though we don't always succeed. Due to his drinking and drug use, Danny will likely never lift his head from where he is right now - and what he said when he was scratched a bit was uncalled for - but - that doesn't mean that he should be blown away, necessarily. We are VERY used to attack here and because of it we tend to be hyper-vigilant - I include myself in that - but it will really serve us all best to stop and think before we blow people away and to network first - to check ourselves and our impressions to make sure we don't do permanent damage where some guidance and control was all that was needed.

We are - as a group - powerful enough to be generous and to err on the side of giving another chance in most instances - not all instances, but most. So, all there is is lessons, and if we learn from this one, then that makes it important. fwiw.

 

[Danny]

I am emotionally disturbed. I deserve to be considered an enemy. My track record sucks. I said years ago I think I am what is considered an organic portal. A damn living,breathing carcass without the soul to navigate said carcass. I don't want forgiveness ad I don't intend on using any reverse psychology in order for any kind of sympathy whatsoever.What I am going through is a rage and envy of those who DO have souls. What kind of sick perverted entity would put a person on this planet in that capacity? God only knows. I never intended for this thread to go beyond page 2 for cryin out loud.
My dig on Laura was totally inconsiderate and cowardly at best. I did not get my info from the thread that was implied that I read. It was on the basis of other websites.

[links removed by moderator]

If I am not allowed on the forum anymore so be it./ I dont deserve it and really have had enough of forums anyway. At least contributing because at my level of maturity, I have nothing useful to contribute other than being made an example. I do , however have an issue with getting onto the SOTT website which could only be user error of some sort.If I am banned please let me know.

Once again, I don't intend on any second,third, or fourth chances. I made my bed and now I shall sleep in it. That being said, I want to give you a story of why I am as angry as I am. (not right now but in general). My mother was a devout christian and in my eyes the most angelic human being I have had the pleasure of being raised by.Then later I find out thatshe was sadly misled by sick religious institutions. I have been following what REALLY is going on on this planet via the SOTT website.
Then it was brought to my attention about the "scam" that was perpetrated by the very people that I relied on for truth. The same old hateful feelings came rushing back to me. Anyone who has been betrayed by someone close to them will understand the feelings that I am talking about. Utter heartbreak.
One thing I have noticed in the alternative media outlets, sadly, is that in my estimation, about 75% of the "work" involved in running them consists of smearing all the other outlets with the remainder of the time actually reporting. I honestly don't know where the determination comes from in the people that do this kind of work because I'm literally exhausted just seeing it. Anyway I'm rambling.
I was out of control last night...clean and sober, mind you as I have been for some time now.Nonetheless, out of control. All I wanted to do was post a stupid video and get views. I got an extremely minor taste of it and can only say it was an absolute nightmare. I've read articles of cyber-bullying and always had the silly opinion of the victims of it to just "grow a pair" and get over it. Well I got a small microscopic taste of it from your precious Guardian, and now know the feeling of the victims of it and struck back with the only way i know how.Cowardly lashing out. The people here seem to admire him quite alot so by all means...enjoy.And I understand why you did what you did,Guardian. You have a fan-base to maintain. I will be told, no doubt that I am sadly mistaken. Probably so. I do have a twisted way of observing things,but that's how I see it.
This really REALLY will be my last post here. I just want to be able to read the SoTT website. I dont even want to comment there. Just be able to get on and view.If I can't...well it is what it is. Carry on folks and peace be with you all.

PS what I am getting when i try to get on SOTT is....The page isn't redirecting properly













Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.








* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept
cookies. I did not disable cookies and am far from computer saavy enough to know what I am doing wrong.

PPS Anart, out of all the posts in this thread I respected yours the most.Keep on keepin on.

 

[anart]

Danny, I was informed that you had been banned from the forum, but apparently that had not yet been instated.

Regarding the 'scam' you are posting about - please at least check your sources before you feel utterly shattered. There was no scam - ever.

Your access to the sott site has not been blocked, so try clearing your cache and cookies and see if that doesn't fix things - it must be a technical glitch and others with this issue solved it by clearing all cookies and their cache (it's under 'tools' and 'clear recent history' in firefox).

Considering the fact that after all this time of reading Sott and the forum, you couldn't even check your sources to find out the truth about this 'scam', I think the forum has not been benefiting you at all, so perhaps it is best for your posting privileges to be removed.

 

[Nawd]

I for one, would like to see you Danny, working out these issues on the forum. (don't know if you are banned or not) Heck, Organic Portals? Who knows who that might be? Why would you feel that way? Etc.

There isn't a test for such a being and being such, means nearly nothing in general.

However the insults and all should (and were) dealt with by various members.

If you had a house, and regularly the 'guests' came inside and handed you empty boxes labled as "stuff," and walked away, would you not also be a little bit concerned?

If anything, I hope that you understand that we are in sort of a war of information here. Everything counts, every-single-devil-filled-detail.

Guardian, does not have a 'fan base' per se, but I for one, appreciate her insight, because I've hung out at this place for long enough to know that she is really a kind, caring, fun individual with a skill for exposing the crap in the sunlight so to speak. Plus I never forget an act of kindness.

Let this exchange be about growth and learning, this really IS an important thread.

I also dislike cheap insults; that is incorrect behavior in this place. To go and say such things about Laura running away etc, is just cheap, icky stuff. You may feel that way, but questions are more important. Maybe that reading list is in order.

I'm no mod, or anywhere near, but I do appreciate insight, both from defending our network, and beyond.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Well, having come to this thread late, I also think that, besides being emotionally shocking (it really ticked me off that Danny would use the house raffle comment to lash out), it's a really good illustration of what this forum is about and what we do here. Warts and all.

I don't know what to say about Danny. He seems to be someone with major issues that can be really nasty with absolutely no control or consideration. Obviously, he has not done any Work on himself at all. I remember when he used to post much more often a few years ago. Now that he hardly ever posts, it's obvious that he hasn't really valued what's being done here to take the first steps to get himself together and work toward being more than a mere reaction machine.

So, I'm not even clear if he just hasn't settled in his mind about the defamatory allegations about the "scam" or he knows that the allegations are nonsense but used it as a way of lashing out to make it most hurtful. And to anyone even remotely considerate and not totally self-centered, it would be clear that it would be most hurtful to Laura who hadn't even posted on the thread. Besides, after all these years of Laura's -- and the rest of the network's, for that matter -- generosity, what would drive Danny to say such things? Again, it's obvious Danny has gotten no real benefit from his years being here.

As for Guardian's posts -- I can't speak about those that were removed before I got a chance to read them -- I would just say that Guardian has very little tolerance for abusive behavior. She CAN jump the gun and go over the top, but most of the time she does a good job of channeling her anger creatively. Heck, besides her great skills of sniffing around and digging out very interesting data very quickly, she is really funny. Granted not all her humor will be understood by all immediately.

But everyone can get burned out occasionally and lose perspective. So, Guardian is, like us all, fallible. But she is also a very generous and hard working person -- a real asset to this network. I doubt that she will establish a "fan base" here, because the network has such a wide and diverse perspective, that is not a real issue.

Guardian can be thought of as being akin to a really good guard dog. Sometimes she overreacts when it's not called for, but most of the time she does a very good and important job. I think we all appreciate Guardian as she is -- and she, like all of us, IS a work-in-progress.

There's just so much of value to constantly learn on this forum, the possibilities are endless.

 

[Laura]

I am emotionally disturbed. I deserve to be considered an enemy. My track record sucks.

True enough. It really doesn't matter how or why a person gets to a certain state, what matters is what they do. What is, IS. If a person shoots another person, it doesn't really matter if it was an accident or premeditated murder: the victim is just as dead. That is, of course, from the victim's point of view. It doesn't matter to me, as a human being, whether you attack me because you are damaged, or because you came with a covert agenda to target me.

However, from another perspective: that of the attacker, maybe it does matter? But it can only matter if there is realization that LEADS TO CHANGE. An attacker can feel remorse, or not. The attacker has a future and can choose how that future will manifest.

I said years ago I think I am what is considered an organic portal. A damn living,breathing carcass without the soul to navigate said carcass.

It's actually not very likely that you are an OP. OPs generally don't behave as you do; they are most often authoritarian types that follow the leader quietly and do what they are told.

You think that just because you don't control your emotions, that they lead you around like a pig with a ring in his nose, that means you don't have soul potential? Not necessarily true. What you do have is the emotional quotient of a 2 year old. Somehow, you got emotionally blocked at that age and the characteristics of the "Terrible Twos" are written all over everything you write, say and do.

I don't want forgiveness ad I don't intend on using any reverse psychology in order for any kind of sympathy whatsoever.What I am going through is a rage and envy of those who DO have souls.

Oh horse hockey! What you are going through is the triggering of your infantile narcissism which may be a valid problem, but you need therapy to deal with it.

What kind of sick perverted entity would put a person on this planet in that capacity? God only knows.

This is the anger of the infant for being denied its needs at a very early age and getting stuck there and never being able to grow up emotionally. It manifests as anger at God/mother, whatever. It's not even all that unusual.

I never intended for this thread to go beyond page 2 for cryin out loud.
My dig on Laura was totally inconsiderate and cowardly at best. I did not get my info from the thread that was implied that I read. It was on the basis of other websites.

But it is quite revealing that the dig was at me and I hadn't even posted to this thread - actually hadn't even read it at all until it came up in the mod's discussions. Again, that points to narcissistic wounding when a child, probably at a very early age, and probably by the mother. Via transference, I am the mother who denied you whatever you needed and must be destroyed.

If I am not allowed on the forum anymore so be it./ I dont deserve it and really have had enough of forums anyway. At least contributing because at my level of maturity, I have nothing useful to contribute other than being made an example.

Based on your history, that's probably a good idea. I would also highly recommend therapy. You might want to read "Deep Therapy in the Fast Lane." Hopefully, someone will find and provide the link.

Stop trying to find excuses for your abhorrent behavior like "I'm just an OP... can't help myself." That's a load of bollocks and you know it.

Yes, you have behaved in sick and perverted ways - no question about that - the question is, what is the REST of your life going to be like? You DO have a choice, you know. If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got. You can use today to heal the past and shape the future.

 

[Gawan]

Based on your history, that's probably a good idea. I would also highly recommend therapy. You might want to read "Deep Therapy in the Fast Lane." Hopefully, someone will find and provide the link.

Here you go:

deep therapy in the fast lane chapter one

It is very well and easy written, enjoy it Danny, in the hope that it is of help for you.