We’re actually watching it on Netflix, so not for free. I haven’t yet watched a show with such bad translation on the platform. They only have the English subtitles, so I don’t know why they couldn’t invest some money in a couple of professionals.
Resurrection Ertugrul: An epic with heart and values
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happyliza
The Living Force
I too loved the show for all the lessons and stories from Ibn Arabi. Ertugrul and Suleyman, his father and mother Halime were brilliant too as was Selcan in many scenes. I have finished all the Osman back series a while ago so look forward to Thursdays when the new episode is aired with glee. I am also watching 'Once upon a time Cyprus' which is also fantastic but relevant as I live here - again very enoyable and looked forward to.
Do not be too disappointed with Kurulus Osman as is does leave you on a cliff-hanger every week and the actor has changed but the lessons are still great. It does get as good as Ertugrul in different ways - and justice is truly done too
Enjoy.
Do not be too disappointed with Kurulus Osman as is does leave you on a cliff-hanger every week and the actor has changed but the lessons are still great. It does get as good as Ertugrul in different ways - and justice is truly done too
Enjoy.
Been enjoying the series greatly, so far at the end of season 3. Here is an exchange between Ibn Arabi and our hero from season 1, episode 18, it doesn't actually contain any spoilers as it doesn't reveal much of what's going on, it was beautifully scripted:
Pepe Escobar has written an interesting article where he endorses a recent book about the Ottoman empire.
thesaker.is
A couple of snippets:
The book he writes about is:
Alan Mikhail: God's Shadow: Sultan Selim, His Ottoman Empire, and the Making of the Modern World
So what if the Ottomans shaped the modern world? | The Vineyard of the Saker
A bird's eye view of the vineyard
A couple of snippets:
The book he writes about is:
Alan Mikhail: God's Shadow: Sultan Selim, His Ottoman Empire, and the Making of the Modern World
First of all, thank you everyone who recommended this show. It's great and a lot can be learned from it. I also recommend it.
Many of you have already written here quite a lot of good insights and reviews about it, so I'll just drop my few cents that haven't seen discussed so far.
Nonetheless, the whole series was a pleasure to watch and it was a very nice distraction that also/even enabled some quality time for the "whole family" to spend together and discuss things and relations to our world today that aren't usually (or ever) seen on the TV. I also liked the emotional component of the series and even shed a tear or two at some scenes, not only because of 'negative' emotions but also a joyful ones.
The show made me think about organized religions, Islam in particular, as a means of programming and propaganda, their influence on ordinary people lives, and inclusions of "small", on the first hand maybe no so important things/notions into religious doctrine that open a door to psychopathic corruption and contamination (ponerization).
At the personal level:
For example, obsession for blood revenge/vendetta that was present even in the 1980's (maybe even today) in Albania and some places in ex-Yugoslavia. From the show, I got the impression that this part of tradition (religion?) was there from the very beginnings. In the case of Sirma at the end of the show it can be seen how this can be used for personal psychopathic evil goals and also how this thirst for revenge, no matter how righteous person might seem in their pursuit for justice, can be corrupted and used by outside psychopathic forces for their purposes (Dragos with Ilbilge vis-a-vis charges of Gunduz killing her father).
At the group level:
I find it very interesting that nomadic way of life in Anatolia Seljuk state described in Ertugrul and high moral values of Islam, like fighting for oppressed and liberating them from tyrannical rulers, sound quite similar to what Thompson wrote about Assyrian war propaganda and conquest of Palestine (cited by Laura in Ch 10 of High Strangeness when talking about 'history' of Israel).
Side note:
I've been wondering how come the Islam became so popular in Afro-american community during (second part of) last century, and these values with their attractiveness to oppressed people kind of explained it. Of course I might be way of the mark here, so I'll appreciate if somebody can correct me.
When Truth&Justice are added to above mix of moral values and goals, as can be seen in Ertugrul show, one really gets something that looks quite close to the ideal doctrine.
With vengefulness present, together with high sense of one's moral rightness which is intrinsic to Muslims and Islam, IMO, we can get people who are more or less easily offended and ready to go up even to arms to defend their doctrine/programming and/or (personal) revenge. In itself, that's not such a bad thing, especially if thirst for Truth, real truth, is still present there and one would go an extra mile and give a benefit of a doubt just to be sure that the real truth is known and Justice is served justly. This can be seen at the end of the show when Ertugrul came to meet Berke Khan and appealed to his truth seeking nature to avoid being sent away or even killed, but to find a spy in his close ranks.
If this (personal) truth-seeking is corrupted, real Truth taken out from the ordinary people lives and brought to institutional level in the form of dogmas and/or given and assessed from some (high-er) authority figures, we end up with SJW movement where all "right" components of a ideal doctrine (e.g. Islam) are seemingly present. But, with above ponerization, its followers, with right emotional buttons pushed, will go to the very end for Justice; and even more, when a notion of a sacred martyrdom for the cause is there, then there's an army that will willingly go to their very death (or death of "others") just because (holly) authority said so.
Many of you have already written here quite a lot of good insights and reviews about it, so I'll just drop my few cents that haven't seen discussed so far.
Agree, especially later/last seasons, if the show wasn't so good it would probably repel me from watching it further. Which makes me wonder if it maybe wasn't done on purpose to annoy and repel people on West from watching it to the end?
Nonetheless, the whole series was a pleasure to watch and it was a very nice distraction that also/even enabled some quality time for the "whole family" to spend together and discuss things and relations to our world today that aren't usually (or ever) seen on the TV. I also liked the emotional component of the series and even shed a tear or two at some scenes, not only because of 'negative' emotions but also a joyful ones.
Thanks for the heads-up; similar to what Gaby said in other thread, after watching Ertugrul, instead of Osman it would maybe be more useful to dive into reading recommended Romance Novels.
I was really annoyed of the last 10 (Netflix) episodes of the last season, at that time not seeing why would they want to unnecessary prolong the show when, IMO, the story was nicely rounded at that point. But, the last episodes of the show really brought home several (important) messages for me - revenge in case of Sirma's end and Islam's connection to today SJW movement in scenes of Ertugrul's visit to Berke Khan.
I was a bit disappointed when Ibn al'Arabi left the show, although his religious successors like imam/hodja of Sogut had their moments in delivering some of the inside viewpoints of Islam, like explaining some of the names of the God/Allah to children in the school, they were more like a poor imitation of deep and profound messages of Sufism that Arabi conveyed in first half of the show.
Also, the shift in later seasons to more pronounced vengefulness/vendetta in a sense that revenge was sought for every offense, no matter how big or small it was, by the principle "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth", compared to much more empathetic/loving and forgiving attitude at the beginning of the show, was a bit disturbing to me. That's not to say that justice was to be disregarded and that every offense should be forgiven, in case of Sirma and her sister Ilbilge at the end of the show it could be nicely seen how all-forgiving attitude can be a huge weakness and could potentially lead to a complete disaster, if offense is not treated properly and justly.
Also, the shift in later seasons to more pronounced vengefulness/vendetta in a sense that revenge was sought for every offense, no matter how big or small it was, by the principle "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth", compared to much more empathetic/loving and forgiving attitude at the beginning of the show, was a bit disturbing to me. That's not to say that justice was to be disregarded and that every offense should be forgiven, in case of Sirma and her sister Ilbilge at the end of the show it could be nicely seen how all-forgiving attitude can be a huge weakness and could potentially lead to a complete disaster, if offense is not treated properly and justly.
The show made me think about organized religions, Islam in particular, as a means of programming and propaganda, their influence on ordinary people lives, and inclusions of "small", on the first hand maybe no so important things/notions into religious doctrine that open a door to psychopathic corruption and contamination (ponerization).
At the personal level:
For example, obsession for blood revenge/vendetta that was present even in the 1980's (maybe even today) in Albania and some places in ex-Yugoslavia. From the show, I got the impression that this part of tradition (religion?) was there from the very beginnings. In the case of Sirma at the end of the show it can be seen how this can be used for personal psychopathic evil goals and also how this thirst for revenge, no matter how righteous person might seem in their pursuit for justice, can be corrupted and used by outside psychopathic forces for their purposes (Dragos with Ilbilge vis-a-vis charges of Gunduz killing her father).
At the group level:
I find it very interesting that nomadic way of life in Anatolia Seljuk state described in Ertugrul and high moral values of Islam, like fighting for oppressed and liberating them from tyrannical rulers, sound quite similar to what Thompson wrote about Assyrian war propaganda and conquest of Palestine (cited by Laura in Ch 10 of High Strangeness when talking about 'history' of Israel).
Side note:
I've been wondering how come the Islam became so popular in Afro-american community during (second part of) last century, and these values with their attractiveness to oppressed people kind of explained it. Of course I might be way of the mark here, so I'll appreciate if somebody can correct me.
When Truth&Justice are added to above mix of moral values and goals, as can be seen in Ertugrul show, one really gets something that looks quite close to the ideal doctrine.
With vengefulness present, together with high sense of one's moral rightness which is intrinsic to Muslims and Islam, IMO, we can get people who are more or less easily offended and ready to go up even to arms to defend their doctrine/programming and/or (personal) revenge. In itself, that's not such a bad thing, especially if thirst for Truth, real truth, is still present there and one would go an extra mile and give a benefit of a doubt just to be sure that the real truth is known and Justice is served justly. This can be seen at the end of the show when Ertugrul came to meet Berke Khan and appealed to his truth seeking nature to avoid being sent away or even killed, but to find a spy in his close ranks.
If this (personal) truth-seeking is corrupted, real Truth taken out from the ordinary people lives and brought to institutional level in the form of dogmas and/or given and assessed from some (high-er) authority figures, we end up with SJW movement where all "right" components of a ideal doctrine (e.g. Islam) are seemingly present. But, with above ponerization, its followers, with right emotional buttons pushed, will go to the very end for Justice; and even more, when a notion of a sacred martyrdom for the cause is there, then there's an army that will willingly go to their very death (or death of "others") just because (holly) authority said so.
I finally finished watching Ertugrul. Not going to share any spoilers, but just wanted to reassure everyone who is still watching. That the ending doesn't disappoint, and that despite all the drama, the end is very much satisfactory like in romance novels. Well, not exactly like in romance novels. 
but you get the idea.
but you get the idea.
happyliza
The Living Force
I just finished the last in the Osman series too, and it was the same as you mentioned above too. Not sure when series 3 begins but am sure sad about not having my fave learning material to watch once a weekI finally finished watching Ertugrul. Not going to share any spoilers, but just wanted to reassure everyone who is still watching. That the ending doesn't disappoint, and that despite all the drama, the end is very much satisfactory like in romance novels. Well, not exactly like in romance novels.
happyliza
The Living Force
KURULUŞ OSMAN SEASON 3: EVERYTHING WE KNOW SO FAR
The finale for Season 2 released on 23rd June 2021 and now everyone is wondering if the Turkish historical drama will return for Season 3.
Kurulus Osman is a hugely popular series which originally released on Turkish network ATV in 2019. It is produced by Mehmet Bozdag and directed by Metin Gunay.
The series loosely follows the life of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Whereas the prequel Dirilis: Ertugrul (2014-2019) focused on his father. Both series have amassed a fanbase of thousands of people across the world who follow the show’s episodes when they release every week. Please note: This article may contain spoilers.
So, now Season 2 has ended, will Kurulus Osman return for Season 3?
- At the time of writing this article, Kurulus Osman has not yet been renewed for Season 3. However, HITC does believe the series will return.
Our expectation that the series will return is based on the series is highly rated at 7.8 on IMDB, 3.7/5 on Facebook and 4.8 on Google reviews. In addition to this, while Season 2 has adapted much of Osman I’s real-life into the series, there are many important events of history, that have been left out.
These historical events include battles, conquests, his family, death and Osman I’s legacy. All of which could be adapted into future seasons. Dirilis: Ertugrul had a total of 5 Seasons, the series is rated at 8.0/10 on IMDB, which isn’t too far off the rating for Kurulus Osman. This could be a potential indication of how many seasons Kurulus Osman will go on for.
At this time, no information has been released by the director or production company to say the series will return. However, as stated earlier, we do believe it will, based on the information provided.
KURULUS OSMAN: SEASON 3 RELEASE DATE
As the series has not yet been renewed, there is no official release date for Season 3. Though, we are able to give a release date prediction based on the release of Seasons 1 and 2. HITC believes Kurulus Osman season 3 will drop in October or November 2021 following a 4-5 month break.Filming for Season 2 was reportedly wrapped earlier this month on 12th June 2021. Meaning the cast and crew are free to begin production on the next Season. For the time being, the cast and crew remain tight-lipped about the future of the series.
Please note: This is a prediction. No official release date or details about season 3’s production have been released. For the time being, fans can recap with the trailer of Season 2 below:
KURULUS OSMAN SEASON 2
Kurulus Osman Season 2
PLOT FOR SEASON 3 EXPLAINED
Being that Seasons 1 & 2 included historical facts and have loosely followed the life of Osman I and those around him. We can expect the director and producer, to adapt more of his life into the series.
This also depends on how Season 2 will end, as we might catch the Byzantine and Mongol conflict in its entirety. We do expect Season 3 to show more of the intense battles that took place during Osman I’s lifetime.
Should the series follow a direct timeline for Season 3, we can expect to see the Byzantine-Catalan alliance and conflict. There is also the conquest of Yensehir and Bursa. However, this could be adapted into later seasons if the series continues.
Please note: As the series has not yet been renewed, no information about a potential plot has been made. Therefore, this section shows a plot prediction, not a confirmed storyline.
Kurulus Osman season 3 release date confirmed by creator
After months of speculation, the creator of the hit Turkish drama series 'Kurulus Osman' has finally confirmed the release date for season 3!
www.hitc.com
PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE SPOILERS ON THE SITE
Well, my wife and I finally finished watching the series.
A total of 448 40-minute episodes, whew!
It was well worth it though, among the best ones I have ever watched. The story, characters, setting, the attention to detail, the music, etc. all combined in a VERY compelling way!
I do have a favorite season, number 4 comes at the top, followed closely by Season 3, and then Seasons 2, 1 and 5. Sadly, I was dissappointed with Season 5.
Seasons 3 & 4 have the drama with Emir Saddetin Kopek, the main villain of the series, who delivers what I believe one of the most memorable performances for a villan. As they say, a story is just as good as the villain is, and Saddetin never lets down. The character is a cunning, smart, charming and well mannered psychopath (but is he?) moving the strings at the top of the Seljuk sultanate. Very well performed by Murat Garipagaoglu.
I laughed, cried and screamed with this series, felt the rush of the battle, the exhilaration of victory, and sadness of loss and defeat. The dignity with which the fallen were treated, the respect for tradition, family and honor. Enjoyed the words of the wise men and women, but first and foremost, the integrity, vision and endurance of a true warrior, in the Castaneda sense, of the main character. It is no easy feat to portray and irradiate such essence and character even if scripted and performed by a well crafted actor, so kudos to Engin Altan Duzyatan for that.
Anyway, Duzyatan has a new series, the life of an Admiral in the Ottoman Empire, so far not translated to English, sadly:
A total of 448 40-minute episodes, whew!
It was well worth it though, among the best ones I have ever watched. The story, characters, setting, the attention to detail, the music, etc. all combined in a VERY compelling way!
I do have a favorite season, number 4 comes at the top, followed closely by Season 3, and then Seasons 2, 1 and 5. Sadly, I was dissappointed with Season 5.
Seasons 3 & 4 have the drama with Emir Saddetin Kopek, the main villain of the series, who delivers what I believe one of the most memorable performances for a villan. As they say, a story is just as good as the villain is, and Saddetin never lets down. The character is a cunning, smart, charming and well mannered psychopath (but is he?) moving the strings at the top of the Seljuk sultanate. Very well performed by Murat Garipagaoglu.
I laughed, cried and screamed with this series, felt the rush of the battle, the exhilaration of victory, and sadness of loss and defeat. The dignity with which the fallen were treated, the respect for tradition, family and honor. Enjoyed the words of the wise men and women, but first and foremost, the integrity, vision and endurance of a true warrior, in the Castaneda sense, of the main character. It is no easy feat to portray and irradiate such essence and character even if scripted and performed by a well crafted actor, so kudos to Engin Altan Duzyatan for that.
Anyway, Duzyatan has a new series, the life of an Admiral in the Ottoman Empire, so far not translated to English, sadly:
Thanks for the tip for the new series! I'm glad to see that Duzyatan is featuring in this new one, since he was such a marvellous and spot-on actor as Ertugrul. Let's hope this new series will be better than, in my opinion, failed sequel 'Kurulus Osman'. I've been sporadically watching the Osman series, but it gives the impression of a work done hastily – the storyline isn't that good, and the actors lack depth in their characters. Considering that Osman is supposed to be 'the one' who gives birth to a great nation, the actor portraying him sadly doesn't have the charisma to be convincing, IMO (as compared to Duzyatan, for example).
I've been watching a couple of episodes of the new series Barbaroslar and I have to say it's pretty decent. IMO, in any case it's better than the Osman series. The actors are chosen well to suit their roles and all the main characters act very well. The story and plot is not that spectacular but as in the Ertugrul series it 'thickens' and 'deepens' with time. After watching the first 15min of the first episode I was almost about to give up, since the first scene with the sea battle was a bit 'cringy' (e.g., the special effects illustrating the 'roaring sea' and the cannon balls bursting into the ships weren't that convincing), but as I watched some more and the action and scenery moved onto dry land it became way better. I guess one thing was also the fact of getting used to Duzyatan in his new role – you are so used to see him as Ertugrul so it takes a while to see him as Oruc.
After watching the first five episodes I'm quite pleased with the quality. Compared to Ertugrul this new series (at least so far) lack the deep spiritual and philosophical dialogues, and visions, although there's some of it here and there. Another thing that's poorer compared to Ertugrul, IMO, is the music. The fantastic ethnisic and etheric (remember those 'sighs' in Ertugrul when someone got wounded or died?) music in Ertugrul is not present in this new series – the music is more modern and leans towards the kind of music you hear in Hollywood movies. This may be because they are trying to reach an even wider audience by imitiating Hollywood, which is a mistake if you ask me.
Still, I recommend watching this for anyone who liked Ertugrul. The actors portraying them are way better than in most American series and the main characters are 'strong' enough to make it interesting.
I found the first 12 episodes with English subs here:
osmanonline.co.uk
After watching the first five episodes I'm quite pleased with the quality. Compared to Ertugrul this new series (at least so far) lack the deep spiritual and philosophical dialogues, and visions, although there's some of it here and there. Another thing that's poorer compared to Ertugrul, IMO, is the music. The fantastic ethnisic and etheric (remember those 'sighs' in Ertugrul when someone got wounded or died?) music in Ertugrul is not present in this new series – the music is more modern and leans towards the kind of music you hear in Hollywood movies. This may be because they are trying to reach an even wider audience by imitiating Hollywood, which is a mistake if you ask me.
Still, I recommend watching this for anyone who liked Ertugrul. The actors portraying them are way better than in most American series and the main characters are 'strong' enough to make it interesting.
I found the first 12 episodes with English subs here:
Watch Barbaroslar with English Subtitles
Watch Barbaroslar with English Subtitles all seasons available with English translation, starring Engin Altan Duzyatan from Dirilis Ertugrul
osmanonline.co.uk
happyliza
The Living Force
'Resurrection: Ertugrul' star dies.
A PROMINENT Turkish actor Ayberk Pekcan, also known as Artuk Bey in the popular Turkish series Resurrection: Ertugrul, has passed away due to lung cancer.
Mr Pekcan had been struggling with cancer for a while.
Ayberk Pekcan, who was an actor in movies theatres and TV series was receiving treatment at a private hospital in Mersin. Mr Pekcan shared a message from his social media account on October 22 about his illness.
'I have lung cancer. The tumour has also spread to the liver and adrenal glands' Pekcan wrote.
So sad a lovely virtuous character in the series. Wish he had been able to obtain the natural cures and treatments.
A PROMINENT Turkish actor Ayberk Pekcan, also known as Artuk Bey in the popular Turkish series Resurrection: Ertugrul, has passed away due to lung cancer.
Mr Pekcan had been struggling with cancer for a while.
Ayberk Pekcan, who was an actor in movies theatres and TV series was receiving treatment at a private hospital in Mersin. Mr Pekcan shared a message from his social media account on October 22 about his illness.
'I have lung cancer. The tumour has also spread to the liver and adrenal glands' Pekcan wrote.
So sad a lovely virtuous character in the series
. Wish he had been able to obtain the natural cures and treatments.
happyliza
The Living Force
We know that horses are social creatures. It’s been proven that their memories are outstanding. They not only understand our words and emotions, but they remember us as well. Janbi Ceylan is a horse trainer in Türkiye. Coming from a Circassian background, he lived in Russia, Jordan and Ukraine for years, and worked in circuses as an equestrian acrobat. He put all the knowledge and experience gained through his circus career into horse-whispering. Known for his ability to enter into the spirit of the horses and train them as well as his mounted acrobatics skills, Janbi Ceylan has even taken part in “Dirilis Ertugrul—one of the most popular TV series in Türkiye in recent years. #HorseWhisperer #HorseTraining
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CrystalMoon
A Disturbance in the Force
Thoroughly enjoyed this series. Loved the energy it propelled from the acting, to the horsemanship, to the fighting scenes, to the costume designs, to the fast pace story lines….yes, simplistic, but highly entertaining. Even having subtitles wasn’t an issue. If you missed lines here and there, you knew exactly what was going on. A far cry from the Hollywood CGI extravaganzas which are often soulless, and obscenely expensive to produce.
