Revolt T-shirts
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unkl brws
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I saw this image online yesterday. I don't know where it originally came from, I found it on the "Postcards from Barsoom" Substack.
What are your thoughts about this. Personally, I'd change the colours to a red/white/blue scheme (osit).
What are your thoughts about this. Personally, I'd change the colours to a red/white/blue scheme (osit).
I don’t like this one as it is uses the cliche style of the Obama era “Hope” and “Yes We Can” posters.
Trump is an original.
No it’s a different picture, Trumps elbow is bent and the flag is fluttering higher up in the breeze. Although I’m sure that’s why they used this frame and not the iconic shot with Trumps arm extended and the flag visible.
meadow_wind
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Nicely done Vector image. I like the color palette as is.
I prefer the first one. It encompasses all the positive values of America in one image
These designs are great, the two first you made were very focused on the US which is also the local context, but as I saw the video of the incident, I took his message as having a greater significance that goes beyond the US.
Refections on the meaning of the images
If one only has the image of Trump and the word fight, one interpretation is that it is about Making America Great Again. From previous experience and going beyond Trump and his use of the slogan, Making American Great does not necessarily mean making the world as a whole a better place, as many are used to understand it. Might Trump be the fall guy for what is to come?
If we look to the first term of Donald Trump, there is also: Kremlin comments on Trump’s first presidential term
Trump may not have begun new wars, but it was not only positive either, in part because the vector of US power projected and already set in motion was such that it was not possible. Besides the experience for Russia, in Syria, the oil export guarded by US troops was set in motion, and Trump was okay with that.
Wearing this T-shirt in the US has one meaning. In other countries, I think one needs to know what it is one is fighting for, and what role Trump might play, or can play in this. The words you added help to make that clear, but it does not mean there will be no questions, especially in Europe where much media coverage has been solidly against Trump - for years.
What will help with material for any explanation or discussions that might be needed are all the instances that the Deep State used to obstruct him during the first term, the electoral irregularities in 2020, and the by now numerous unanswered questions the assassination attempt has left.
As a European, if I wore the symbol, it could be interpreted as if I would fight for the US, and I might have to explain that not the case, but I might answer that the spirit of defiance and resistance that Donald Trump expressed at this time can be an inspiration for many in the struggle for a better world, and that Donald Trump in what he has done, has helped to show the world, how much control there really is and how much there is to fight against, and fight for.
There should be a solid market in the US. T-shirts with similar logos will probably come quickly. Make hay while the Sun shines and try some marketing.
The colors are similar to those used by anarchists. According to the Wiki for Anarchist Symbolism they have used both red, black, and bisected flags.
Given the red-black association and the relation to Anarchists can also lead to how Antifa in the US symbolizes itself:Bisected flag[edit]
See also: Communist symbolism § Red and black flag
Red-and-black bisected flags at an anti-austerity march in London, 2011
The colors black and red have been used by anarchists since at least the late 1800s when they were used on cockades by Italian anarchists in the 1874 Bologna insurrection and in 1877 when anarchists entered the Italian town Letino carrying red and black flags to promote the First International.[2] Diagonally divided red and black flags were used by anarcho-syndicalists in Spain[17] such as the labor union CNT during the Spanish Civil War.[2] George Woodcock writes that the bisected black-and-red flag symbolized a uniting of "the spirit of later anarchism with the mass appeal of the [First] International".[17]
I don't what the intentions were of those who made the red and black image, but in some circles it could be interpreted to fight against Trump. However, one can also argue that Trump is the one who would like the US workers to get back to work rather than buying all from elsewhere. From this perspective, he is very much a US pro-labor, and turned against the multinational capitalists, that make business and exploit people and countries as they please to line their own pockets.
The raised fist
There is in the image with Donald Trump also the raised fist. It is an essential part of communicating the defiance and the power of the situation.
For some, it may also bring forth associations. The Wiki has about the symbol:
The use of the fist as a salute by communists and antifascists is first evidenced in 1924, when it was adopted for the Communist Party of Germany's Roter Frontkämpferbund ("Alliance of Red Front-Fighters"). In reaction, the Nazi Party adopted the well-known Roman salute two years later.[6] The gesture of the raised fist was apparently known in the United States as well, and is seen in a photograph from a May Day march in New York City in 1936.[7] It is perhaps best known in this era from its use during the Spanish Civil War of 1936–1939, as a greeting by the Republican faction, and known as the "Popular Front salute" or the "anti-fascist salute".[8]
Children preparing for evacuation during the Spanish Civil War (1930s), some giving the Republican salute. The Republicans showed a raised right fist whereas the Nationalists gave the Roman salute.[9]
The graphic symbol was popularised in 1948 by Taller de Gráfica Popular, a print shop in Mexico that used art to advance revolutionary social causes.[10] Its use spread through the United States in the 1960s after artist and activist Frank Cieciorka produced a simplified version for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee: this version was subsequently used by Students for a Democratic Society and the Black Power movement.[11]
The raised right fist was frequently used in posters produced during the May 1968 revolt in France, such as La Lutte continue, depicting a factory chimney topped with a clenched fist.[12][13][14]
A raised right fist icon appears prominently as a feminist symbol on the covers of two major books by Robin Morgan, Sisterhood is Powerful, published in 1970,[15] and Sisterhood Is Forever, in 2003.[16] The symbol had been popularised in the feminist movement during the Miss America protest in 1968 which Morgan co-organised.[8]
A raised fist incorporates the outline of the state of Wisconsin, as designed in 2011, for union protests against the state rescinding collective bargaining.[17]
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The raised fist logo generally carries the same symbolism as a hand gesture. It was an important symbol of workers rights and labor movements, as well as specific labor actions, such as strikes, boycotts, and walk-outs.
Notable examples include the fist and rose, a white fist holding a red rose, used by the Socialist International and some socialist or social democratic parties, such as the French Socialist Party and the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party.[8] The fist can represent ethnic solidarity, such as in the Black Power fist of Black nationalism and the Black Panther Party, a Black Marxist group in the 1960s,[18] or the White Power fist, a logo generally associated with White nationalism.[19] A Black fist logo was also adopted by the northern soul music subculture. Loyalists in Northern Ireland occasionally use a red clenched fist on murals depicting the Red Hand of Ulster, which is also featured on the flag of Ulster.[20] Irish republicans, on the other hand, have been seen displaying raised fists.[21]
The image gallery shows how a raised fist is used in visual communication. Combined with another graphic element, a raised fist is used to convey polysemous gestures and opposing forces.[22] Depending on the elements combined, the meaning of the gesture changes in tone and intention. For example, a hammer and sickle combined with a raised right fist is part of communist symbolism, while the same right fist combined with a Venus symbol represents Feminism, and combined with a book, it represents some librarians who oppose digital rights management.
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And while we are on designs; I have an old T-shirt from 2014 or 2015 with a Palestinian flag and the words, You don't need to be Muslim to stand up for Gaza - you just need to be human. This logo is epic! Are there no buyers for this anymore? I once wore it in a park in a major city and passed a young man of Middle-eastern descent who had gone for a walk with his son, and he just loved it.
Agreed. I would avoid the black and red association to the Norsefire party of the film V for vendetta.
