Q: (L) Now, I have been having an exchange with Carla McCarty
who was the Ra channel. She says that we are not supposed
to DO anything, we are just supposed to BE, and what we
are supposed to BE is to just let love flow through us,
love the aliens and everybody and just sort of relax in
the tulips and, if they take us over, then we should LOVE
that, too. Somehow, I don't find this...
A: All there is is lessons!!
Q: (L) Is the lesson to learn how to give up the ghost with
panache? What's the point?
A: Your experiences never end, only transform. No
bodycentrics need apply.
Q: (L) Well, you once said something about the transition to
4th density creating a 'level playing field.' Then, the
people will wake up and there will be a battle between the
humans and aliens...
Q: (L) And if it is a more level playing field, then the
situation would not quite be the same as the
Conquistadores against the Aztecs and the Native Americans
against the Europeans and...
A: Wrong, all in that drama were at 3rd density. The
rabbits, rats, dogs, etc. are not on a level playing field
Q: (L) Do the aliens know about the upcoming comets and all
that sort of thing?
Q: (L) And they have the idea that what they are doing, this
race they are creating, is going to survive this
A: Of course.
Q: (L) Is that 'of course' as in they ARE going to survive,
or that they BELIEVE they are going to survive?
Q: (L) Okay, you once told us that this was like a 'cosmic
battle.' That the cycle was going to create balance and
so on. I am trying to understand this. If that is the
case, it seems that there is more to it than the
Conquistadores against the Aztecs and the Europeans
against the Native Americans; that at some point the story
changes - the oppressed fight back - I am trying to get
the allegory into a more understandable framework. Do you
see what I mean?
Q: (L) Well, that is because I am confused. What I am trying
to ask without asking it directly is: what chance do we
have of doing anything?
A: You are still not seeing the "bigger picture."
Q: (L) What is the bigger picture?
A: Your souls, your consciousness.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we chose to come in at this
particular point in time to experience this mass take over
of our planet and the conquest and destruction of the
human race, just so we could have this experience, check-
out and reincarnate?
Q: (L) Well, that is what it sounds like! You say that the
only thing that really matters is our souls, our
consciousness, so if we tend to our souls and our bodies
check out, then obviously the answer is to a) reincarnate,
or b) move to the next density and reincarnate. What
other option is there?
A: How long did you expect to "live?"
Q: (L) Well, under the normal circumstance, 70 or 80 years,
A: And is that long?
Q: (L) No, it is not. By cosmic standards it is a whiff of
vapor. What are you getting at here?
A: Think about it. ? Have you had any contemporaries who
transited to 5th density?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: How come? How can this be possible?
Q: (L) Because they died. The body died.
Q: (L) Because that is what bodies do.
A: But is it "fair?"
Q: (L) Is it fair?! I guess if that is what they choose.
Q: (L) I don't know where you are going with this!
A: You seem to be under the impression that only "good
experiences are acceptable.
Q: (L) No, I am not under the impression that only good
experiences are acceptable, but I AM in a little bit of a
quandary here because, here we are talking to you guys who
are supposed to be 'us' in the future. Here we are in
this period of time on this planet, where things are in a
very strange state. There is some kind of huge transition
going on, and I am just wondering what is the whole point.
Why are we talking to you? What's the point?
A: It is the lesson. Do you not understand still? The
lesson, the lessons, that is all there is. They are all
Q: (L) Okay, we are having these lessons. You have told us
what is going on. We see it going on around us. I am
convinced that what you have said is so from a LOT of
other circumstantial evidence as well as the research of
others who have come to the same conclusion and, DAMN IT,
IT'S UGLY! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?! IT'S UGLY!
A: That is your perspective.
Q: (L) Well, as Chloe said on the phone the other day, what
are we supposed to awaken to? Are we supposed to just
awaken to the fact that we can SEE all this stuff going
Q: (L) And just waking up and seeing it is the whole thing?
Okay, once we wake up and SEE it, why can't we just check
out at that point? If you know what the script is, you
don't have to watch the movie!
A: But then you miss out on the experience.
Q: (L) So, we are all here to experience being munched and
Q: (L) Imprisoned, controlled, being treated like rats in a
cage in a laboratory...
A: Ecstasy, remember?
Q: (L) Ecstasy?! WELL SWELL! We can just ALL be BURNED AT
THE STAKE! I understand that is QUITE an ECSTATIC
experience! I'm sure William Wallace felt perfectly
ecstatic when they castrated him and removed his bowels
and burned them in a brazier in front of his face!
A: Not so long ago, your face smashed upon the pavement...
Q: (L) Was that an ecstatic experience?
Q: (L) So, when you say 'ecstatic' you could just be talking
about jumping out a window and croaking?! You gotta
understand here! The perspective here on 3rd density!
You don't have faces to smash on pavements!
A: Neither will/do you/us.
Q: (A) You say knowledge protects. It protects against WHAT?
A: Many things. One example: post transformational trauma
Q: (L) So, knowledge is going to protect us against post
transformational trauma and confusion. You are saying
that this transition to 4th density is going to be
traumatic and confusing. Do you mean transformation from
3rd to 4th density, or 3rd to 5th density, i.e. death?
Q: (L) So, if one does not have the shock and trauma and the
confusion and so forth, one is then able to function
Q: (L) Well, if a person transitions directly from 3rd to 4th
density without cycling through 5th density via dying,
that implies that persons can transition directly from
3rd to 4th density without dying. Is that correct?
Q: (L) How does that feel? How is that experience...
A: Alice through the looking glass.
Q: (A) Okay, they say that knowledge is supposed to protect
from trauma and confusion. On the other hand, all is
lessons, so trauma is a lesson. Why are we supposed to
work to avoid a lesson?
A: You are correct, it is a lesson, but if you have
foreknowledge, you are learning that lesson early, and in
a different way.
Q: (L) So, if you learn the lesson in a different way, does
that mitigate the need or the way or the process of the
way of learning at the time of transition?
A: Yes. Smoother.
Q: (L) I do have to say that thinking about it all, not being
able to do anything about it, not being able to talk to
people about it because they don't believe, is certainly
more painful than being hit by the shock of it...
Q: (L) Well, you are suggesting that I CAN tell others such
A: You can convey, but suggest it be done in a subtle
Q: (L) Well, how subtle can it be? I mean, 'hello folks, you
know the words munch, crunch, yum yum???'
A: It is not all that way, and you know it! Most are not
eaten, just manipulated. Knowledge protects in the most
amazing ways. Mathematics are "taught' in your realm in
such a way that only a select few will learn. And
mathematics is the language of all creation. For example,
advanced math studies, such as algebra, provide the keys
to unlocking the doors between the matter and antimatter
universes. Suggest those present who still need to, learn
Q: (L) Okay, you suggest that those present learn algebra...
A: Who need to.
Q: (L) Are you saying that we can unlock doors between matter
and anti-matter universes? Is that what you are getting
Q: (L) I certainly don't want to hang out on this planet
after it is taken over by aliens and everybody is getting
A: Munched? Please!!