Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

[Oxajil]

Apologies if this was already mentioned. A day before the Israeli strike on an air base in Syria, I was reading this article: Defense Minister: Israel will likely have to go it alone on Syria

Israel will likely have to handle the threats on its northern border, including from Syria, on its own, Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman said on Sunday morning [...]

“President Trump did not ask me [about Syria]. I operate out of the assumption that ultimately Israel will have to deal alone, both with the threat in the North and with the threat in the South,” Liberman said.

The US is Israel’s “main strategic ally, but it has its own considerations and we live here in the Middle East,” Liberman said. [...]

Then, the day after, the strike happened. He probably wasn't happy with Trump's earlier comments of wanting to leave Syria (which of course won't be happening any time soon I think).

 

[Konstantin]

Donald Trump warned Russia to "get ready" after Moscow vowed to shoot any missiles fired at Syria down. "They will be coming, nice and new and smart," Trump tweeted.
-www.rt.com/usa/423802-trump-get-ready-russia-missiles/

Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!

It looks like there will be a very dangerous situation over Syria very soon.

 

[luc]

It looks like there will be a very dangerous situation over Syria very soon.

And then, there's this:

Europe air traffic control issues alert over ‘possible air strikes on Syria within 72 hours’

Eurocontrol, an EU body responsible for handling air traffic over the continent, has issued a Rapid Alert Notification to flight operators in the eastern Mediterranean, warning them to be ready for NATO rocket launches into Syria.

“Due to the possible launch of air strikes into Syria with air-to-ground and / or cruise missiles within the next 72 hours, and the possibility of intermittent disruption of radio navigation equipment, due consideration needs to be taken when planning flight operations in the Eastern Mediterranean / Nicosia FIR area,” the alert said.

The alert warns pilots to be ready for specific NOTAMs (Notices to Airmen), concerning flight risks and obstacles that may arise.
On Monday, US President Donald Trump said that he was “very strongly, very seriously" considering military action against the government of Bashar Assad over the alleged chemical attack in Douma in Syria on April 7. Trump said that a “major decision” would be taken within the following 24-48 hours.

An air strike was already carried out against a Syrian air base on Monday, although no state has claimed responsibility. Damascus, Moscow and Tehran say that the attack was carried out by Israel from Lebanese airspace.

Russia has warned that if any of its personnel in the country are targeted, it “will take response measures against both the rockets, and the platforms from which they’re fired.”

This doesn't look good at all

 

[Cosmos]

And then, there's this:




This doesn't look good at all

It doesn't look better if it is actually true that the russians will not only attack the missiles but the stations from where they are lunched aka. the US-military ships. According to the the russian diplomat in Beirut, that is what the russians will do:

“If there is a strike by the Americans, then...the missiles will be downed and even the sources from which the missiles were fired,” Zasypkin told Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV, speaking in Arabic. He also said a clash “should be ruled out and therefore we are ready to hold negotiations”.

Well, I don't think the US has any kind of guts anyway, so I think WWIII is as unlikely as before. And it is about the last thing the russians consider anyway. But the deep state is surely playing with dangerous fire there. Will be interesting to watch what happens. Maybe the russians will use some of their new weapon systems and eliminate the target before it even launches aka. making the rockets unable to fly in the first place or the ships unable to do what they want.

The US-Elite is surely asking for trouble, but I'm fairly certain that the russians already have more then a few solid plans at hand to counter that nonsense effectively.

 

[genero81]

Honestly, I thought about the idea that someone was using Trumps Twitter account and tweeting those things before it was mentioned elsewhere. I mean surely he can't be that stupid. It wouldn't be that hard to mimic Trumps style of tweeting either. To see all our 'leaders' reading from the same script is.... I'm not sure there are words for it. We're in a kind of dystopian nightmare come true. Wish it were just a bad dream. No one but Tucker Carlson is going to call BS on this?

And it's not just that it's yet another country we will destroy, major countries with the power to do something have drawn a line in the sand.

Not good

 

[Windmill knight]

Well, I don't think the US has any kind of guts anyway, so I think WWIII is as unlikely as before. And it is about the last thing the russians consider anyway. But the deep state is surely playing with dangerous fire there. Will be interesting to watch what happens.

It is unlikely in the sense that nobody wants it, for sure. The problem is that Trump is now in a very difficult position - having said what he said and tweeted as he did. Because now he is forced to bomb, and he is forced to do so on a larger scale than last year - otherwise he will look very weak and untrustworthy in the eyes of the 'war party' who control the media, etc. And unlike last year, the Russians are by now much more angry and convinced they should respond to this sort of nonsense, and have warned they would bomb the launching sites of an attack. When that happens, what will Trump do if an American boat or airplane is destroyed? He could stop there - everybody punched each other, lets go home now - but the US political class and media, hysterical and deluded as they are, will not accept that. The US taking damage is unprecedented since Vietnam. So the option is to retaliate, which escalates the situation, etc.

The way I see it, it's like riding your mountain bike next to a precipice. No one wants to plunge into the abyss (WWIII) - but if you go mountain-biking, there is always a possibility that you will fall.

How did Trump get himself into this lose-lose position? Again, I think there's only 2 options: he is an idiot who believes the lies whispered on his ear or he is totally under the deep state's control. Or both are the same thing. One thing is for sure, I don't think he is anywhere nearly smart enough to get out of this nicely. In his own words, "Big price to pay".

 

[Ca.]

Turkey Hinders Evacuation Of Jaysh al-Islam Fighters, Russia Prepares To Deploy Troops In Duma
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On April 11, the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) banned the fifth batch of Jaysh al-Islam fighters, who had been evacuated from the Duma district, from entering the Turkish-held city of al-Bab in northern Syria, the Syrian pro-opposition news outlet Enab Baladi reported. A local source told the news outlet that the fifth batch consists of 4,100 civilians and fighters of Jaysh al-Islam.

In response to the Turkish decision, dozens of civilians took at the streets in the city of al-Bab and demanded the Turkish authorities and the Turkish backed-FSA to allow Jaysh al-Islam fighters and their families to enter the city immediately. Following the protests, the Turkish authorities answered the protestors requests and allowed the fighters and their families to enter the city.

According to the Ministry of Defense of Russia, over 3,354 fighters of Jaysh al-Islam and 8,642 members of their families had been evacuated from Duma district since since the evacuation agreement was reached on April 8. Jaysh al-Islam also handed over most of its light and medium weapons to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and burned all of its heavy weapons during the last two days.

The Russian Ministry of Defense added in an official statement released on April 11, serivcemembers of the Russian Military Police will be deployed in the Duma district on April 12. The deployment is a part of the original agreement, according to Syrian pro-government sources.

The number of the remaining fighters of Jaysh al-Islam in Duma district is unknown. However, local observers believe that the evacuation process will be over within 48 to 72 hours.

The city of Douma became the place of the alleged chemical attack on April 7. The reprots triggered a large-scale escalation over the conflict in Syria. The US and its allies are currently drawing plans of miltiary actions against the Syrian government. MORE HERE

Video released by the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) on Wednesday featured up to 400 pieces of weapons confiscated from the anti-government militants by the Russian Centre for Reconciliation of Opposing Sides in Syria in Eastern Ghouta's embattled city of Douma.

 

[Ca.]

Syrian War Report – April 11, 2018: US Destroyers, Subs With Hundreds Of Missiles Near Syria

 

[Cosmos]

It is unlikely in the sense that nobody wants it, for sure. The problem is that Trump is now in a very difficult position - having said what he said and tweeted as he did. Because now he is forced to bomb, and he is forced to do so on a larger scale than last year - otherwise he will look very weak and untrustworthy in the eyes of the 'war party' who control the media, etc. And unlike last year, the Russians are by now much more angry and convinced they should respond to this sort of nonsense, and have warned they would bomb the launching sites of an attack. When that happens, what will Trump do if an American boat or airplane is destroyed? He could stop there - everybody punched each other, lets go home now - but the US political class and media, hysterical and deluded as they are, will not accept that. The US taking damage is unprecedented since Vietnam. So the option is to retaliate, which escalates the situation, etc.

The way I see it, it's like riding your mountain bike next to a precipice. No one wants to plunge into the abyss (WWIII) - but if you go mountain-biking, there is always a possibility that you will fall.

How did Trump get himself into this lose-lose position? Again, I think there's only 2 options: he is an idiot who believes the lies whispered on his ear or he is totally under the deep state's control. Or both are the same thing. One thing is for sure, I don't think he is anywhere nearly smart enough to get out of this nicely. In his own words, "Big price to pay".

I agree the possibility always exist, especially in situations like this. In the last couple of years we practically saw, pretty much every other day, a situation that could have easily lead to WWIII in the past. But it didn't happen and I don't think it will happen. I agree though, from the bare looks of it, it seems there are only those two options left now. But I think that is just from the bare looks of it. Still I think that it is pretty likely that the russians planned exactly for such a scenario long time ago and will handle it in the most sensible way, considering the stakes at play. They won't make a move if anything like a WWIII could be at stake. I don't think so. They know exactly how far they can go. On the good side, we could see, for the first time ever since the empire created itself the imperial free ticket to meddle in the affairs of other countries, and bomb the hell out of them, with no restrain whatsoever, a direct sign from a country that can do it, that things like this don't fly anymore. I do hope so! I smell the bully is in for the first direct big blow on his megalomaniac madness since ever. If not now, then sooner or later.

The situation this time could be quite different then in the crimea situation, or for that matter in the situation during the sudden beginning of the russian involvement in syria. In those cases it was still a bit under the hand via proxies from the US, now that isn't the case anymore. Sort of a "direct confrontation" this time, without proxies in between, which is unique situation.

I bet on russia showing off some of their new technics and the empire will be left with no chance to react in any real way. Sooner or later the russians will follow their word, that they won't accept anything like this anymore. If that will be the case this time, I dunno, maybe it won't be this time and they will give the empire another chance "to safe face". I don't think this will go on forever though and sooner or later russia will draw the line in the sand with no exceptions.

What we see here looks like one of the last desperate moves from an empire that is rapidly falling into itself. The more they do, the more they put themselves into the corner. Russia doesn't have to do much anymore. They just have to react sensible to the madness, the rest the empire itself will handle just fine.

 

[Ca.]

Some have mentioned the strange Tweets being so HOT and COLD ? Has me wounder if he may be having some metal issues?

Trumps Tweets looking very strange! 6:00 AM - 11 Apr 2018
[B]Donald J. Trump[/B]‏Verified account @[B]realDonaldTrump[/B]

https://twitter.com/x/status/984053549742067712

Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama. Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!

4:37 AM - 11 Apr 2018

https://twitter.com/x/status/984032798821568513

https://twitter.com/x/status/984022625440747520

CNN Stirs the POT

Rep. Ron Johnson: Trump should follow his previous advice
Published on Apr 11, 2018 / 8:38 (Of BS)

"THEY" Dug up Madeleine Albright ..........Oh S&%t

Trump taunts Russia, says US military response coming in Syria - CNNPolitics
Updated 1641 GMT (0041 HKT) April 11, 2018 Video (If you can Stomach It)

 

[BlackCartouche]

Some have mentioned the strange Tweets being so HOT and COLD ? Has me wounder if he may be having some metal issues?

Trumps Tweets looking very strange! 6:00 AM - 11 Apr 2018
[B]Donald J. Trump[/B]‏Verified account @[B]realDonaldTrump[/B]

https://twitter.com/x/status/984053549742067712

4:37 AM - 11 Apr 2018

https://twitter.com/x/status/984032798821568513

https://twitter.com/x/status/984022625440747520

CNN Stirs the POT

Rep. Ron Johnson: Trump should follow his previous advice
Published on Apr 11, 2018 / 8:38 (Of BS)

"THEY" Dug up Madeleine Albright ..........Oh S&%t

Trump taunts Russia, says US military response coming in Syria - CNNPolitics
Updated 1641 GMT (0041 HKT) April 11, 2018 Video (If you can Stomach It)

This is fascinating! No, not mental issues, c.a... Reckon its Trump vs Deep-State-Controlled-Trump wrestling with 'itself', a bit like someone demonically-possessed trying to regain autonomous control of their own body ... and its playing out before our very eyes - for those willing to see.

 

[Ca.]

This is fascinating! No, not mental issues, c.a... Reckon its Trump vs Deep-State-Controlled-Trump wrestling with 'itself', a bit like someone demonically-possessed trying to regain autonomous control of their own body ... and its playing out before our very eyes - for those willing to see.

I've listened to a recent UT that talked about this and I will see if can locate it again.
But do you not think that all this back and forth would make a person a bit mental?

Meanwhile:

11 Russian Warships Leave Syrian Port To Conduct Exercises
Update: The Russian warships leaving port has been reported as a drill, as InterFax reports:
SNIP:

Russian Navy ships, starting from April 11, will conduct exercises near the coast of Syria,

follow from the international notification for aviation personnel (NOTAM) and navigational warning for seafarers.

The reports contain the coordinates of the closed area, as well as the conduct of training shooting there.​

The training area, located in the international waters of the Mediterranean, is adjacent to the sea border of Syria. It will be closed on 11-12, 17-19 and 25-26 April from 10 to 18 Moscow time.​

Currently, as part of the permanent operational connection of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea, there are about 15 warships and vessels providing the Black Sea Fleet, including the carriers of the Caliber cruise missiles Frigates Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen, as​

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US equity markets are re-surging following headlines that satellite images show eleven Russian battleships leaving a port in Syria. It appears the market has interpreted this as potentially reducing the immediate fears of a proxy war becoming a world war, though some would argue it is the opposite as ships cannot fight at port and are potentially moving into a more strategic position.
A snapshot of the port of Tartus, shows the Russian warships at anchor before, according to ISI:

Main Scenarios Of Possible Military Escalation After US Strikes On Syria
11.04.2018

 

[BlackCartouche]

I've listened to a recent UT that talked about this and I will see if can locate it again.
But do you not think that all this back and forth would make a person a bit mental?

Meanwhile:

11 Russian Warships Leave Syrian Port To Conduct Exercises
Update: The Russian warships leaving port has been reported as a drill, as InterFax reports:
SNIP:

​

Good point. Goodness knows what Trump has endured behind closed-doors where the World cannot see. He has found himself in the belly of the Beast... And his family too! I'd have probably gone a bit mental by now.

Thanks for the links

 

[Cosmos]

Reactions and opinions on russian TV about the latest happenings:

 

[Cosmos]

I just listened to the latest press briefing of Trumps press secretary. Notice anything strange?

How come that pretty much all the questions from the fake news peeps toward Trumps secratary sound so unanimously and surprisingly reasonable and non war enthusiastic for US standards? Just coincidence?

Striktes me as strange. The most they did, is to point out how stupid Trumps announcement is.

Why is that?