Russian Invasion?

[go2]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/163633-Massive-US-Naval-Armada-Heads-For-Iran

Things are coming to a head. And it seems we are one step closer here in the axis of evil to Bush declaring a state of emergency and he will remain dictator for the short while the US will still be an empire.

Lord Stirling is the author of the article linked above.

The two-ton elephant in the living room of the neo-con strategy is the advanced biowar (ABW) that Iran, and to a lessor extent Syria, has. This places the motherlands of the major neo-con nations (America, France, the United Kingdom), as well as Israel, in grave danger. When the Soviet Union fell the Iranians hired as many out-of-work former Soviet advanced biowar experts as possible. In the last 15 or so years they have helped to develop a truly world class ABW program utilizing recombination DNA genetic engineering technology to create a large number of man made killer viruses. This form of weapon system does not require high tech military delivery systems. The viruses are sub-microscopic and once seeded in a population use the population itself as vectors. Seeding can be done without notice in shopping malls, churches, and other public places. The only real defense to an advanced global strategic biowar attack is to lock down the population as rapidly as possible and let those infected die off.

Who is Lord Stirling? There has been an increase in information on biowar in the last few weeks with the anthrax investigation increasing public awareness. It is possible Lord Stirling a conduit preparing the public for a biological falseflag attack blamed on Iran. Did these guys get their ideas from Vendetta? Lord Stirling says a world wide lock down is the only way to control a viral contagion. Maybe a lock down is the way to control a viral contagion which is the way to control a financial contagion which is the way to control humanity and so it goes into hyperdimensions. Sorry, I got carried away with that sentence.

Taking into account only standard, non-hyperdimensional power struggles,

Is it possible all power struggles are best understood as hyperdimensional?

I think that is one of the purposes: to keep us all confused and scared

Are you scared and confused? A feedback loop of studying events and my reactions to them offers endless opportunity
for esoteric work. I have noticed a reduction of emotional reaction to previously frightening developments on the world
stage as I study myself in conjunction with studying the event. It seems a mutually reinforcing activity. :)

 

[Keit]

Hello all,
Are we moving out of the war-on-terror (except as an excuse to remove civil rights in the US or invade a country every once in a while) into a trilateral (US vs. Russia vs. China vs. US), neverending struggle à la Orwell's 1984?

Well, it surely looks that way "from here". When I read Ynet articles about the conflict, Georgia presented as a clear victim and Russians as aggressors who invaded the country and now performing an ethnic cleansing in the region (the Russians from their side say the same about Georgia). And that, as article describes, didn't leave Saakashvili much choice but to declare marshal law.

There is a heavy anti-Russia campaign going on in Israel for some time now, painting Putin and now Medvedev (Putin's puppet) as dictators and another version of Stalin.

From what i read, i reckon that the conflict has to do with the AoE's access to Caspian oil, getting a thorn into Russia's side and make them appear as the bad guys, and to me it seems about probably creating some kind of destruction distraction, for other things to take place underneath - as Lynne's post shows - an attack on Iran.

Oh yes, grabbing resources and creating alliances (moving all the pieces into their place) seem to be like a major reason for the conflict. Kind of like "You are either with us or against us. Now it's the time to choose."

In Hebrew article Russia accused Ukraine with helping Georgia. And Ukraine has a long history of being aided by US ('Orange revolution' leaded by Yushchenko for example) or having endless energy (oil/gas) disputes with Russia.

Interestingly enough, Belarus, who has its share of energy disputes with Russia as well, recently agreed to allow Russian strategic bombers to be stationed on its soil.
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews+articleid_2485544&title=Iskander_Missile.html

And Belarus is another place Axis of Evil countries love to hate and call Lukashenko a dictator.

Man, some of those things are so obvious, it's really puzzling that others don't notice it. Because sometimes what is needed is only to apply a direct parallel between stuff in the books (like 1984 for example) and current world events. Heck, you can even get an insight about such things from Star Trek episodes

But I guess that we must not forget the shadow puppeteers, and that in the high levels they all have the same master. Master who doesn't mind that his servants will do all the dirty work by conveniently killing each other.

Using Dune's famous line: There are plans within plans.

 

[vinny]

A bunch of geniuses those guys at the United Nations! Who pays them? Clearly this conflict is needed to exist and continue.

Yeah, diabolical geniuses

Centering it round a 'ceasefire' issue seems to be a standard nasty trick of the AoE. It's oh so easy to run a false flag op as one side or the other, and so provide a 'justification' for further violence, like "see, they broke the ceasefire, we have no choice but to retaliate", and so completely distract away from the original issues that may or may not have started the conflict. And, as in Palestine, it can be repeated indefinitely, to perpetuate the violence, if that's what the psychos want. and it seems they do.

 

[Windmill knight]

Here's an article on sott about the US navel armada moving into place along with it's friends.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/163633-Massive-US-Naval-Armada-Heads-For-Iran

Things are coming to a head. And it seems we are one step closer here in the axis of evil to Bush declaring a state of emergency and he will remain dictator for the short while the US will still be an empire.

Does anyone have some other independent source confirming that all those ships are indeed heading for the Persian Gulf? I think that the importance of the move cannot be overstated. Moving armies and ships implies money, and those in power don't spend a penny without a very good reason. No matter what they say in public, if they pull out a gun, it's because they intend to use it, particularly when the gun consists of an armada as large as the one described in the article. There cannot be any other clearer sign of war. Also, if those ships are heading that way, we should be able to know when they are due to arrive, and therefore when the war is due to begin.

Together with the events of Georgia, things are starting to look ugly in a The Day After kind of way - and rather fast. :(

 

[anart]

That's a good question - do we even know who the author is of the article referenced? Seems some nitty gritty fact checking is in order...

 

[Pierre]

Does anyone have some other independent source confirming that all those ships are indeed heading for the Persian Gulf?

A couple of medias, like Jerusalem Post, Market Watch are stating that two US carriers, the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan are currently cruising towards Iran shores.

Those two articles mention the same source : Kuwait Times but despite some searches in the Kuwait Times website I didn't find the original article.

 

[Bobo08]

[quote author=Wizard]
I'd go further than that and suggest that the entire show is a Mossad/Israel & CIA/USA (ie, Axis of Evil) organised event. The world's attention is firmly on the Olympics and Hey Presto - another war; which puts the anti-Russian propaganda in the western press, as set out in July's Connecting the Dots article http://www.sott.net/articles/show/163218-Connecting-the-Dots-A-New-Cold-War-Meets-Chinese-Lanterns-Flying-in-the-Wind-of-Change, into some perspective.
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And now we have this news item:

_http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/10/news/Iraq-Georgia.php

US begins flying Georgian troops home from Iraq

The U.S. military began flying 2,000 Georgian troops home from Iraq on Sunday, military officials said, after the Georgians recalled the soldiers following the outbreak of fighting with Russia in the breakaway province of South Ossetia. ...

 

[Bernhard]

A Russian posted this on youtube:

The truth about South Ossetia War, Georgia attack, and Russia's response
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhyZjNApBg

He writes: "American and U.K. media is feeding you lies about what happened in Georgia the night of August 7th, 2008. CNN claims that Russia invaded Georgia. The truth is Georgia had committed the act of genocide against people of South Ossetia, and Russia had no choice but to protect its own citizens!"

 

[Tigersoap]

He writes: "American and U.K. media is feeding you lies about what happened in Georgia the night of August 7th, 2008. CNN claims that Russia invaded Georgia. The truth is Georgia had committed the act of genocide against people of South Ossetia, and Russia had no choice but to protect its own citizens!"

What would be the odds that Georgia created more havoc than the Russian military to create the sense that Russia was the attacker with no pity for civilians ?
I had the impression that this could be somekind of false flag attack orchestrated to show Gerogia as the victim.

 

[GRiM]

Ghost Recon [Video game] Released in 2001, 2002 (XBOX)

Ghost Recon begins in 2008, with civil unrest in Russia. Ultra-nationalists have seized power in Moscow, with plans to rebuild the Iron Curtain. Their first step is clandestine support of rebel factions in Georgia and the Baltic States. This is where the Ghosts come in: to silence the rebellion. Armed with some of the most advanced weaponry in the world, the soldiers of the Ghost Recon force are covertly inserted into Eastern Europe and given specific missions to curtail the rebel actions and overthrow their benefactors.

The game's storyline stems from political turmoil that came to light a few years earlier, in which the Ultra-nationalist regime came to power and placed its leader, Dmitri Arbatov, as Russia's president. By 2007, the threat posed by the Arbatov Administration became clear. Russia forms an alliance called the Russian Democratic Union (RDU), which is made up of the previously conquered countries of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Together, they launch a campaign to revive the long-dissolved Soviet Union by taking back all of the former Soviet republics.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Ghost_Recon_(video_game)


Strange coincidence?

 

[go2]

_http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/10/georgia.russia

It looks like the US educated lawyer and Georgian President Mikael Saakashvili with his Israeli allies and Jewish defense minister are attempting to creat a new world war for the benefit of a few elites who maintain power and profit from ordering actions resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings.

Saakashvili is a famously volatile risk-taker, veering between warmonger and peacemaker, democrat and autocrat. On several occasions international officials have pulled him back from the brink. On a visit to Washington in 2004, he received a tongue-lashing from then Secretary of State Colin Powell who told him to act with restraint. Two months ago, he could have triggered a war with his other breakaway province of Abkhazia by calling for the expulsion of Russian peacekeepers from there, but European diplomats persuaded him to step back. This time he has yielded to provocation and stepped over the precipice.

Vladimar Putin is the only one whose rhetoric appears to express regret at the necessity to resort to armed force. I have read his speech in Munich on Febuary 10, 2007 and at the time it seemed rational and human, which is a rarity for leaders on the planet. It could be wishful thinking. The speech is at the following link in an English translation

_http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/rede.php?sprache=en&id=179

Putin, speaking on state television, said: "It is a shame that some of our partners are not helping us but, essentially, are hindering us. I mean … the transfer by the United States of a Georgian contingent in Iraq with military transport planes practically to the conflict zone. The very scale of this cynicism is astonishing - the attempt to turn white into black, black into white and to adeptly portray victims of aggression as aggressors and place the responsibility for the consequences of the aggression on the victims."

_http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3580136,00.html

Temur Yakobashvilli has started a war with a surprise attack on Tskhinvali, killing thousands of civilians according to reports. Mr. Yakobashvilli now calls on the nations of the world to support Georgia in war with Russia. Humanity is called upon to save the war mongerer.

"The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers," Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili said Saturday.

Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew. "We are now in a fight against the great Russia," he said, "and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own.

"It's important that the entire world understands that what is happening in Georgia now will affect the entire world order. It's not just Georgia's business, but the entire world's business."

_http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1010230.html

L. makes clear Israel is deeply involved and responsible for spreading war to a new front in Southwest Asia. The Israeli Generals who own Global CST have profited from the thousands of civilian deaths, of course as L. says, "It looked interesting and the money was good."

L. and a group of young Israel Defense Forces reservists have been watching reports of the fighting in Georgia worriedly, concerned over the fate of the soldiers they had trained for four months.
"We have their phone numbers, but we haven't been able to reach them. These are people we know and we are all hoping for their success," L. said.

Meanwhile, the Israeli trainers are trying to glean from reports on the movements of the Georgian army whether their trainees have internalized Israeli military technique and if the special reconnaissance forces have chalked up any successes after the difficult training they underwent last winter.

"The military bases where we trained the soldiers are practically gone. The Russians have been bombing them over the past few days," L. said. He quickly added that "the bases where we trained the forces were not in the areas of conflict, but it's not a huge country, and the Russians are bombing bases in central Georgia and in the area of the capital, Tbilisi."

L. was hired by Global CST, owned by Maj. Gen. Israel Ziv, and Defense Shield, owned by Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch, about a year ago, right after he left the army. He had served as a combat officer in an elite unit, and he got the adventurous offer through his commanding officers. "It looked interesting. Relative to Israel, the money was excellent, too.

"There was an atmosphere of war about to break out. We received basic background about tensions between Georgia and Russia, but most of what I learned came from talking to the soldiers. From my point of view, the battles of the past few days were to be expected."

The Israelis, who were stationed at bases throughout the country, were to carry out battalion-level infantry and reconnaissance training. "Israel Ziv and Gal Hirsch would come from time to time and watch us in action, but we managed day-to-day operations ourselves," L. said.

 

[mamadrama]

According to the BBC: Russia 'ends Georgia operation'

Thousands of people have fled Gori in fear of Russian air attacks
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, the Kremlin says.

He told officials that the safety of Russian citizens and peacekeepers in South Ossetia had been restored.

Russia also backed an EU plan to end the five-day-old conflict. Envoys will now try to get Georgian approval.

Each side continues to accuse the other of breaking ceasefire accords, and analysts warn that the two remain far apart on a number of issues.




_http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7555858.stm

 

[Niall]

I came across this while looking for background to Georgia's bear-poking of Russia:

.http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/police-investigate-death-of-georgian-dissident-in-uk-1289226.html

Thursday February 14 2008

Badri Patarkatsishvili, an exiled billionaire considered an "enemy of the state" in his native Georgia, has died in his Surrey mansion of a suspected heart attack, two months after accusing Georgian authorities of plotting his murder.

Local police said they were treating the death as "suspicious" and ordered a post-mortem examination.

Mr Patarkatsishvili, who challenged the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili in last month's presidential election, was based in Britain after having his assets frozen in Georgia, where he faced charges of attempting to mount a coup against the president.

It is the second time in just over a year that British police have been brought in to investigate the death of a man with links to leading Russian dissidents in London, following the murder of the former KGB security agent Alexander Litvinenko, who died of radiation poisoning in a London hospital.

Mr Patarkatsishvili, a 52-year old television mogul who owned the independent station Imedi TV in Georgia, was a long-time associate of Boris Berezovsky, the former employer of Mr Litvinenko.

In another quirk of tangled destinies, Mr Patarkatsishvili once employed Andrei Lugovoi, the former KGB operative wanted by Britain for Mr Litvinenko's murder.

Mr Berezovsky said that the Georgian tycoon -- said to be worth €8bn -- had complained about his heart when the two men met on Tuesday.

Police said he fell ill on Tuesday evening while entertaining family and friends at his mansion in Leatherhead.

Mr Berezovsky said yesterday: "The death of Badri Patarkatsishvili is a terrible tragedy. I have lost my closest friend. This is a huge loss for all of his family and friends. I shall make no further comment on the circumstances of Badri's death. "

The tycoon's death prompted Georgia's prosecutor general's office to announce that the legal proceedings against him would be "automatically lifted".

Mr Patarkatsishvili, who was Jewish, had divided his time between Britain and Israel after Georgian authorities issued an arrest warrant against him last December.


In December, the prosecutor general's office released recordings in which he could be heard offering a $100m (€68.6m) bribe to a police chief to stage mass demonstrations in what the authorities described as an attempted coup to be staged the day after presidential elections.

Mr Patarkatsishvili said that he had intended to uncover what he said were official plans to rig the election.

Georgia's president called a snap election last November after the brutal suppression of opposition protests in Tbilisi which tarnished his reputation in the West.

Mr Patarkatsishvili funded the "rose" revolution that brought Mr Saakashvili to power, but since 2006 has accused him of having dictatorial tendencies, and was a driving force behind the November protests.

The president won re-election on January 5 and Mr Patarkatsishvili came third with seven percent of the vote. (© The Independent, London)

 

[Alana]

I think that is one of the purposes: to keep us all confused and scared

Are you scared and confused? A feedback loop of studying events and my reactions to them offers endless opportunity
for esoteric work. I have noticed a reduction of emotional reaction to previously frightening developments on the world
stage as I study myself in conjunction with studying the event. It seems a mutually reinforcing activity. :)

I was confused, until i started reading everything about the conflict, and saw the bigger picture. Yes, the psychopaths offer plenty of opportunities for personal development to us (bless their empty hearts) and you, I, others on this forum will hopefully take advantage of it, but what about the rest of the people of the world? They ARE creating confusion and chaos on a large scale, and it is a part of their plan. Transmarginal Inhibition

I watched this video this morning on youtube CNN use footage of Tskhinvali ruins to cover Georgian report:

In one of its news bulletins CNN has shown Russian tanks and ruined buildings which they claimed are in the Georgian town of Gori. Russian cameraman of the Russian TV channel, who did the footage in reality in South Ossetian city of Tskhinvali says CNN aired footage of Tskhinvali district close to former Russian peacekeepers headquarters, nearly all of them were killed by Georgians after the footage was made.

 

[Appollynon]

An interesting peice of propoganda to note, is that by 6am this morning GMT, all British news shows on all terrestrial channels, had failed to aknowledge the Russian cease fire of their own accord. Instead they have spun the ceasefire as being brought about by Sarky-Sakozy the supe-powered French head of state.

What they fail to aknowledge is the fact that the Russians ceased fire early yesterday evening, under the orders of Medvedev, and not, as is being spun by the likes of the British-Bullsh**-Corporation, by the efforts fo the Sarko-Shark. Talk about creating a false image of the guy, Im guessing Sarko's friends in high places within European media and political circles have tried to help his faltering approval rating by painting him as the saviour yet again as has been done with the freeing of Ingrid Betancourt.