Santeria in evil organizations

[Fluffy]

@Fluffy, I can relate deeply to your Mothering experiences with your daughter, the happenings you’ve witnessed, are comparable to my adventures with my own second born son.
Thank you for your candid honesty, and detailed descriptions, it’s helped me envision how the incidents occurred for you both.
Your mention and awareness of egregores is very important knowledge, as it’s an integral part of how these “thought forms” and negative shocks and traumas are used against individuals with innate “higher awareness”, or, so I’ve come to understand while Mothering this weirdo! (And I say this with all the love in my heart!)

What if she’s not the only one to pick up on the demonic “thought form” that she drew?
What if I brought up the fact that millions of people world wide, were traumatized by seeing the same image?
An egregore is made of gathered “thought energy”, from what I’ve learned, and that image, was implanted on purpose, I suspect.
My understanding is that when enough human generated consciousness, extreme interest and focus, fascination and intent, is concentrated on a similar “happening”, an egregore can take form.
So, a question, if I may.
Are you or your daughter aware of the series “Stranger Things”?
It was featured on Netflix, and garnered a huge fan base.
Compare these pictures, with your daughters “image” that was “implanted” in her awareness:View attachment 101193
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Perhaps her abilities of tapping into the “information field” could be tuned and her superpowers trained for identifying and finding “trends”, and neutralize them?!
You know, get a sneak peek on those 4th Density STS Jerk squads that keep busy beaming out “mind programming” to negatively affect and traumatize people?

My son and I haven’t perfected anything yet, but we work on it.

What I find most interesting about her is a calm sense of balance, she has little moments of course like anybody does but restores equilibrium as quickly as she lost it. It seems like those early years where she was frightened were necessary so she could learn to counteract the fear of the creepies that were clearly trying to avert her from being comfortable on this planet. I would guess you are right in assuming that may be she has some innate ability to neutralise negative entities by the non emotional acceptance of them and then by drawing, making models, writing etc she gives herself an outlet so the energies of these things don’t stay within her.

If millions of people have had visions and dreams of this egregore then stranger things would have been another layer of trauma to add to the sinking boatload.
I have to say that I’m not much of a fan of most of her drawings, (I like flowers and birds and nice stuff) I get the creeps if I can see it, not so bothered if I hear it, but this stranger things series, which Gabriella watched earlier this year, before the drawing, and currently watching again, well I have to say I don’t really see the point of shows like this other to pique the subconscious and insert hooks for later use possibly?

I don’t think I’m over stepping, and I’m far from figuring out how best to support the kids coming in (i have a just turned one daughter too, my rider kids are 24 and 21) I don’t encourage anything much except when I see their prompts, I let them lead because I don’t want to stifle anything. It’s a tricky business.

Little weirdos is an understatement though, haha, the only slightly ‘normal’ of my 4 kids is my son, my girls are all .. well .. big weirdos haha.

 

[Pecha]

Saw this earlier today. Haitian witchcraft/voodoo is similar to Santeria--they do rituals with animal bones and blood to bring good luck, to help evade law enforcement, and to commune with spirits (see attached images from Wikipedia regarding these Iwa spirits).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833981036289753558

Maybe at a higher level, the STS forces are importing these satanic types into the USA to try to counteract the revival of God and Christianity that's happening here too. See the powerful divine intervention witnessed by many during the Trump assassination attempt. A clashing of good and evil at a microcosmic level here?

 

[Nienna]

My understanding is that when enough human generated consciousness, extreme interest and focus, fascination and intent, is concentrated on a similar “happening”, an egregore can take form.

The topic of egregores was discussed in the May 13, 2023 session:

(Navigator) Do "egregores" exist as Stavish describes them? A being created from the thoughts of a group of people which then takes a consciousness of its own, and needs to be fed from time to time, and being either positive or negative.

(L) Okay. That's basically what Stavish's main egregore definition is...

(Andromeda) Basically like a group attachment.

A: He is close except it usually happens from the top down. That is, a being can influence a group of people to take certain actions and thereby establish a feeding pool for itself.

Q: (L) Okay. But still can human beings create a being, like Stavish described?

A: Not really. Such a creation is more a function of FRV and will dissipate upon breakup of the group.

Q: (L) But for a period of time there is something that is drawing and recycling energy within a group.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) But it has no persistence or autonomy...

A: No.

Q: (L) Okay. So, in the cases that Stavish talks about where it's more prolonged and it seems like it changes and begins to become demanding and basically rebels, what is that?

A: Usually 4D STS using a group of people to feed and plant ideas into 3D. Note that often the eminence grise in such groups is a psychopath and you can read current studies to see how the morphing works.

Q: (L) So I think that might be referring to Lobaczewski when he describes how psychopaths within a group can shift the direction, the ideas, and then change the ideology and all that?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Right. Okay.

(Navigator) What about "personal" egregores? Why does Stavish focus exclusively on the group aspect of this phenomena? Is it because the existence of the egregore needs to be "agreed on" by more than one person?

A: Bad question. There are no personal egregores.

Q: (L) "Why does Stavish focus exclusively on the group aspect of this?" Maybe that's because that's how it's observed. Okay...

(Navigator) In one of the appendices of the book, Stavish recounts the brutal illness that affected his esoteric group once the master died, or around the time he died. He thinks the group egregore was to blame, but was it?

A: 4D STS feeder operating through astral attachments.

Q: (L) Okay. So that makes another question: Does 4D STS utilize astral beings, dead dudes, energy concentrations, or beings or elementals and so forth to affect or afflict human beings?

A: Yes, yes, yes.

Q: (L) It's a jungle out there. All right.

So it would seem that the egregore emanates from 4D STS down to 3D people.

 

[Nienna]

On the tooic of „indigo children“ see this post from Laura
Sorcha Faal/David Booth: COINTELPRO

I second this advice.

 

[Alejo]

Maybe at a higher level, the STS forces are importing these satanic types into the USA to try to counteract the revival of God and Christianity that's happening here too. See the powerful divine intervention witnessed by many during the Trump assassination attempt. A clashing of good and evil at a microcosmic level here?

Perhaps, I am currently getting through Jonathan Haidt's book, the righteous mind and I can't help to think that this is a perfect way to create a clash of civilizations, to have two very separate cultures with deeply conflicting notions of what is sacred, in the same city.

For people, specially in the US, and the West in general, pets are part of the family, to have a group of people come into a country for whom such practices are common, normal and desirable... is akin to sending a cannibal into someone's town and setting them loose.

 

[Martina]

I've read an article few years ago, something about why women in hard times turn to witchcraft. If you just forget about the epicenters of black magic practices from which lots of immigrants arrived here, there is generally a rise of all kinds of witchcraft practices among population of western culture. It's trendy.

God knows what to expect when economic situation gets even worse.

 

[A Jay]

I got the feeling when I was carrying her in my body, without anything to substantiate it, of ‘golden light child’, full light spectrum. The thing that carries weight in that thought is her fascination with lining things up in their colour order like a rainbow or chakra system, she started doing that as soon as she could move about and use her hands.

Since you mentioned spectrum, it seems also possible you could have been picking up on a potential for your child being on the autism or Asperger's spectrum as lining things up in that way can be a sign or symptom. The reason I suggest it is because you mention it being a fascination. Which suggests it's not something she has done a couple of times but has a habit of doing.

Not saying she is or isn't one or the other. But thought I would mention it in case you weren't aware of this interpretation of what you've written as girls on the spectrum are often undiagnosed and exhibit signs and symptoms that aren't always obviously spectrum indicative.

 

[Fluffy]

Since you mentioned spectrum, it seems also possible you could have been picking up on a potential for your child being on the autism or Asperger's spectrum as lining things up in that way can be a sign or symptom. The reason I suggest it is because you mention it being a fascination. Which suggests it's not something she has done a couple of times but has a habit of doing.

Not saying she is or isn't one or the other. But thought I would mention it in case you weren't aware of this interpretation of what you've written as girls on the spectrum are often undiagnosed and exhibit signs and symptoms that aren't always obviously spectrum indicative.

I think that could be said about a lot of kids quirky behaviour, though there are not any effects or symptoms that make her life difficult. She is intelligent, her has good self control and moderation, sleeps well, eats well, is physically active, a little bit socially awkward but is liked by everyone, it’s nearly impossible to have anything negative to say about her except for she can be intolerant or other people behaving badly (or not to her liking) and have blind spots in her empathy towards others, but once things are explained she understands and adjusts to new input well.
I don’t see any need to have her tested for anything.
Can I ask what would be the point of getting screening done if a child is mildly autistic?

I kinda like my coloured things lined up in rainbow order too, it just looks better.

 

[A Jay]

It was a possibility based on how you described her behavior as a fascination. Perhaps you were exaggerating a bit for effect. I don't know and it would be fine if you were, but what I said wouldn't really apply in that case. It really all depends on her actual behavior.

As you say, it's not always clear what's a child being a child and what's indicative of child having a deeper issue. That takes time and familiarity and to be honest I don't know enough about this subject or your daughter to be able to suggest whether or not it would be worthwhile or necessary for her to be tested.

However, you could ask her doctor for more information so that you can make that determination yourself. If you think and feel that it's warranted and wouldn't be a bad idea, of course.

My nephew is non-verbal autistic and my brother gets some assistance from the government to help out with things like speech therapy, schooling assistance, and so on. While I don't know what would be available for your family I do know that having the diagnosis and the help that comes along with it has helped my brother and his girlfriend in raising their son.

So, fwiw!

 

[Alejo]

I've read an article few years ago, something about why women in hard times turn to witchcraft. If you just forget about the epicenters of black magic practices from which lots of immigrants arrived here, there is generally a rise of all kinds of witchcraft practices among population of western culture. It's trendy.

God knows what to expect when economic situation gets even worse.

Interesting, because there was that book, "Live not by Lies" for christians living in the Soviet Union, or the cases of people who have claimed to be atheist suddenly turning into believers when going through a crisis, or that general notion of people drawing strength out of nowhere to deal with certain life situations, or the amazing conversions into religion after a crisis.

I do think that during economic downturn things will get even worse, but they may also get interestingly good. Some people will get worse, and dive into darkness, but some might find light as well.

 

[Fluffy]

It was a possibility based on how you described her behavior as a fascination. Perhaps you were exaggerating a bit for effect. I don't know and it would be fine if you were, but what I said wouldn't really apply in that case. It really all depends on her actual behavior.

As you say, it's not always clear what's a child being a child and what's indicative of child having a deeper issue. That takes time and familiarity and to be honest I don't know enough about this subject or your daughter to be able to suggest whether or not it would be worthwhile or necessary for her to be tested.

However, you could ask her doctor for more information so that you can make that determination yourself. If you think and feel that it's warranted and wouldn't be a bad idea, of course.

My nephew is non-verbal autistic and my brother gets some assistance from the government to help out with things like speech therapy, schooling assistance, and so on. While I don't know what would be available for your family I do know that having the diagnosis and the help that comes along with it has helped my brother and his girlfriend in raising their son.

So, fwiw!

Wasn’t exaggerating for effect, and I don’t think that there’s any need for concern with my daughter. Thanks for your interest though, I’ll certainly take advice and ask what others who know her and out GP think, I’ve already got a pretty good idea what will he said.

 

[Martina]

Interesting, because there was that book, "Live not by Lies" for christians living in the Soviet Union, or the cases of people who have claimed to be atheist suddenly turning into believers when going through a crisis, or that general notion of people drawing strength out of nowhere to deal with certain life situations, or the amazing conversions into religion after a crisis.

I do think that during economic downturn things will get even worse, but they may also get interestingly good. Some people will get worse, and dive into darkness, but some might find light as well.

Yes, that's a great book written by Rod Dreher. I admire people that were christians during communism.

From my personal story, due to my life circumstances, I had to be out all afternoon after kindergarten, so I started to go to church when was 5. That was the era when communism fell apart and christianity wasn't still popular, the church was common old house with those folding seats like you have in cinemas. Very modest place with people that lived their faith, wonderful sense of community and belonging.

Few years later christianity became massively popular due to nationalism and we got a big proper church. That was great but you know, lots of those people started to go to church because, same as in communism, they were following the social norms. You can see that from statistics, after the 90's the population of registered christians started to drop. Lots of them most likely felt some impulse and it helped them when there was war and economy was bad, so altogether good.

I would definitely rather see people bonding during hard times, finding meaning in their lives and some way to express their faith into greater good, than doing chaos, but I think we will see both, as you said, more light and more darkness.
I deeply wish for those who have ability to align themselves with light, to do so, because we need them but it's a free choice.

 

[Alejo]

I would definitely rather see people bonding during hard times, finding meaning in their lives and some way to express their faith into greater good, than doing chaos, but I think we will see both, as you said, more light and more darkness.
I deeply wish for those who have ability to align themselves with light, to do so, because we need them but it's a free choice.

True, I think it's a "showing people's true colors" type of situation right ahead of us.