Session 1 November 2025

[panoptix]

Hi @MJF: I tried to respect your highlighting, but I needed to add my own, so I used italics; if you saw both, then we agree on the topic.

I think it was this supernova that was mentioned in the:

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?
A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?
A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.
A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

I like to enrich with another source which sadly isn't available in archive.org neither annas-archive.org: two good and free resources for books in PDF format. So I'll type manually from my paper copy. (Hilarion's books had very limited print runs; I believe they were printed by his own publishing house, founded by the author and medium, the physicist Maurice Borden Cooke. Perhaps because of this, the books are available at ridiculously high prices today.) Try not to confuse him with another source called "Master Hilarion;" I think it was a countermeasure to muddy the waters.

In his first book, the physicist renders a model of physical and ethereal reality, very tied to the String Theory:

[...] The main assumption which needs to be made before space can be understood is that there is something which defines its position with respect to other higher realities. If this fact can be accepted, then all of various fields, effects motions and phenomena observed in the real world will fall into place in a single unified scheme.
The substance which defines the space of the real worlds is a tenuous material which properties of elasticity. Its basic nature allows it to stretch, to contract, to flow as a current of water does, and to carry vibrational wave disturbances. This substance permeates all of the three-dimensional matrix. There is no location in the physical universe which does not contain the substance in one of its many forms.

The discussion continues to present the æther and the failed (or misguided) attempts of nineteenth-century scientists to try to prove it existence. In the past, it seems Plato fused different theories or models, and the classical elements typically refer to earth, water, air and fire, but in Timaeus he adds: “there is the most translucent kind which is called by the name of æther (αἰθήρ).” In operative alchemy æther is a must: the famous Magnesia or Magnet of the Philosophers, needed to attract Spiritus Mundi. Modern alchemists find hard to understand the old books and treatises faced with the ignorance of this “substance.” Hilarion continues:

In essence, the scientists of that century were correct in their assumption, but they did not extend their reasoning far enough to grasp the full significance of this miraculous substance. If they had done so, they would have realized finally that all matter of every form is composed of the æther in one of its states of condensation or expansion, and that every phenomenon observed by man in the real world is accounted for by one or more of the properties of the ætheric matrix.

The dissertation goes one with an analogy of Flatland, but the final point is when he/it presents the hyperdimensional nature of reality:

The skin of the Flatland universe corresponds to the æther of the real universe. The æther is curved upon itself to define a spherical shape as pictured from four dimensions, and this hypersphere has an immense diameter, far beyond the possibility of any physical being to travel even a portion of its girth in the normal lifespan.

Right; enough with this introduction. Now I will cite from Chapters XI and XII, titled “Quasars” and “The Redshift,” and the reason behind my highlighting of the aforementioned C's session:

Quasar invariably exhibit what has been called a “redshift.” This refers to a lengthening of the wavelengths of emitted radiation which, in the visible region of the spectrum, would be detected as a reddening of the light received.
The reason for the redshift is simply that the quasars are displaced immense distances away from the matrix of three-dimensional space in the fourth dimension. In effect, the source of the quasar radiation is not “in” space at all.
Because of this displacement in the fourth dimension, the radiation coming from the quasar to the observer in three-dimensional space follows an oblique line through the four-dimensional construct, and impinges against the three-dimensional matrix at that angle. The angular impingement of this radiation results in sympathetic vibration which is excited is longer than that originally emitted due to the trigonometric relationship of the directions involved.

Now, a Supernova, a Quasar and a Pulsar (remember March 1, 1997 session: “we transmit 'through' the opening that is presented in the locator you represent as Cassiopaea, due to the strong radio pulses align from Cassiopaea, due to pulsar from neutron star 300 light years behind it, as seen from your locator”), represent distinct astronomical phenomena. In a nutshell, while a supernova is an explosive event, a pulsar is often a direct byproduct of such an event, and a quasar operates on a vastly larger galactic scale. Hilarion said:

The nature of the redshift in light arriving from distant galaxies has been misinterpreted by the early discoverers of this phenomenon. They have assumed that the redshift was due to the recession of the sources giving off the light, in the same manner as the Doppler effect will produce a lowering of the tone of a train whistle as the train passes and moves further away.
The explanation of the redshift in the light from distant galaxies is similar to that for the redshift in quasar radiation. The light arriving from distant galaxies passes along a chord of the immense hypersphere which constitutes the three-dimensional universe, and thus arrives at an angle against the local region of space. There ir excites sympathetic light vibrations in the æther, but these vibrations have a longer wavelength because of the trigonometric relationship between the directions involved.
Light cannot travel in the æther itself between galaxies. The only way that it can arrive from such distant points is by passing directly across the four-dimensional construct along a line a which is straight with respect to the four dimensions.

This chapter continues with a discuss and another example with Flatland, which, out of respect for the kind reader and my tired fingers, I will refrain from transcribing.

By the way, I wonder whether Sir Francis Bacon might be another candidate as an undergrounder and a 'Deep Level Punctuator'. He rose from relative obscurity to become Lord Chancellor of England and was one of the main drivers in the creation of the British Empire which really started with the fledgling American colony of Virginia for which he, as secretary to the Virginia Company, would write the colony's constitution that would later greatly influence the drafting of the US Constitution. Many people also think that he may have been the Grand Master of the early 17th century Rosicrucians, an underground movement and brotherhood which had a great effect on the late Renaissance and heavily inspired the Enlightenment as well as the launch of the modern scientific age, Bacon being one of the founders of the modern scientific method. Finally, he was most likely the real writer or pen behind the plays of William Shakespeare that helped to create modern drama as we known it today and are amongst the most influential written works of the last millennia. On this basis you could argue that he was more influential in the long term than Sargon the Great, Queen Nefertiti, Mayer Amschel Rothschild and even Napoleon Bonaparte if he was indeed an undergrounder and a Deep Level Punctuator. Moreover, did he really die in 1626 as claimed or did he go underground with his fellow alchemists in that mysterious enclave in the Pyrenees?

There is a reference in A Rosicrucian Notebook regarding the death of “Lord Verulam.” I know that Willy Schrödter may well be a spokesperson for the Order and this quote only an alchemical analogy of the Purple Elixir (frozen fowl = ice phoenix = cold fire), with is the Exilium Stone:

It is worthy of note that the Rosicrucian, Francis Bacon (Lord Verulam), thought by many people to be the true author of Shakespeare’s plays, centuries ago saw a frozen fowl lying in the road. He got down out of his coach, studied it from all points of view, and was struck by the conserving power of ice. Lost in thought, the philosopher himself became chilled through, contracted inflammation of the lungs and died!

Like the missing body of engineer Paul Decœur:

His death was recorded at his residence on Sunday, May 6, 1923, at the age of 84, with no descendants and no recorded profession. His remains were buried two days later in the Parisian cemetery of Pantin; unlike Canseliet, they did not wait for the new moon on May 15. Distinguished from the cenotaphs richly adorned with bronze or marble perpetually bearing heraldic symbols and lineage, burial plot 3475, pavilion 97, row 16, plot 38 no longer exists: it was a temporary concession with a maximum duration of five to fifteen years. Not even the rose could wither on his cross.

 

[neohamsa]

Merci , prenez soin de vous

 

[N1mTzo]

I think that is a big leap to make. Do we know that undergrounders immortal or do you make the assumption that because he was an undergrounder, then he couldn't have died on the island? Even if Napoleon did not die on the island of Saint Helena, it doesn't follow that the story about the doppelgangers therefore is true.

I find the story of Napoleon's doubles interesting, but a bit secondary. At least for now.
Of far greater interest is Napoleon's "family." It was quite large by today's standards (13 children, 8 of whom survived to adulthood). Were any of them also "underground" figures, helping Napoleon in the future and maintaining his "legend"?
His older brother, Joseph, seems a good candidate. Napoleon's right-hand man, during the height of his power, was elected Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge of France.
Considering the number of Napoleon's siblings, it seems odd that this young man left behind only one child (Napoleon II), who died at 21, leaving no children of his own. The genetic line was broken.
It seems Napoleon himself long believed he was sterile. Was he truly sterile? (And then Napoleon II and other children attributed to Napoleon are not his children.)
Is infertility one of the markers of "underground" members? Do they deliberately send "sterile" men/women to the surface so that they cannot leave their DNA (genetic line) and continue the family line?

PS
In one session, the C's said that there are very few real Illuminati and that they "keep their DNA to themselves."