Session 1 November 2025

[Mark7]

Sorry, your posts on this topic are kind of cryptic and contradictory. First you said that the electric universe aspect is a "special case that can be a factor when objects are close, but not so much at galactic distances".

Now you are saying that the electric universe aspect is "always a factor, as it drives the cold plasma cosmic wind that appears to govern everything".

Electromagnetic forces could be holding galaxies together, making the theorized "dark matter" unnecessary. And electromagnetism can definitely play a huge role at close distances, for example much of the Martian surface (including Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris) seem to have been shaped by gigantic plasma discharge processes.

I see both as being true based on what I read in Pierre's books. I'm sorry if I was unclear and not very explanatory. Perhaps my understanding of it could improve.

 

[Mark7]

I don't think so, after some thoughts. That's because those things are relating to 4D. Only 4D would see "a scifi landscape". We, would only see a big stone, put somewhere.

You are right, we could never duplicate what it really was like, though AI. Maybe we can get an actual video from the Stones?

 

[Benjamin]

For example, a car battery has two terminals, positive and negative.
And in the case of the guys holding the “bags,” they do so directly with one hand (without insulated gloves). Not only that. In some cases, these guys are barefoot, and in other cases, they are wearing shoes, that is, they are not grounded.
It occurs to me that depending on what they are doing, in some cases they need their own body to be like a grounding wire, and in other cases they need the ground to be their own body.

I noticed the barefoot/shoe thing but didn't make this connection. It now reminded me of this section about Leedskalnin where the C's bring up grounding.

Oct. 23, 1999

Q: We learned that Leedskalnin supposedly wrote a book back in 1949. (F) He did? I bet he didn't reveal his secrets! (L) No, but it is interesting anyway. We ordered it. We read parts of it from the internet, and it is written in rather archaic language, or he had some problems explaining things in English, but it is about basic principles he was investigating. We want to play with some of his experiments at some point. (F) Is there anything about spinning? (L) No, but I figured out what the airplane seat was for by reading some of his experiments. (A) Is there any experiment in this book that would show us the way toward UFT, or better, a way out of standard physics? Or, are his experiments just standard things, but since he did not know the laws of physics, he may have misinterpreted his results? He was amazed by the behavior of magnets, but the experiments were standard? Well, we will have to see. I wrote to this anti-gravity group and asked them if there was one, just one, repeatable experiment that I can do myself, which cannot be explained by standard theories. Is there one?

A: Is there such an experiment, yes. But one needs the necessary equipment, and that is difficult to come by. One needs the means to supply the adequate power for an artificially created EM field. [It sounds like the Pyramids could do just that since the TDARM could be powered by them magnetically.]

Q: (A) But that would mean that what is in this book by Leedskalnin is just normal experiments because, for the most part, they just use car batteries.

A: More power than that is needed, because the grid is too weak for substantive results. [You need more then car batteries to power a grid. Just wondering if 'a grid' could suggest 'alignment'? Could the alignment be to something cosmic and/or terrestrial to 'capture' electromagnetism?]

Q: (A) But, when he was building this Coral Castle, apparently he was using such effects! What power was he using?

A: Sound waves.

Q: (A) How was he producing these sound waves?

A: Through correlation of rocks and power source, obtained "illegally." Instrument was similar to a tuning fork, but energized to a level that was lethal if one were to come in contact with it, or its ground.

Q: (A) Have we been discouraged from experimenting here?

A: No.

Q: (L) Did he use this tuning fork while sitting in his suspended swing?

A: Yes, because to do otherwise would have been fatal!.

Q: (L) Where did he illegally obtain this power source?

A: Tapped into high energy power lines.

Q: (L) So, he was an energy pirate! But, that certainly makes it less mysterious! (A) Can we obtain the necessary equipment? I know what we need.

A: Be careful.

So, Leedskalnin held his "tuning fork" while in the swing. The tuning fork was energized by "high energy power lines". The current through the tuning fork would have killed him if he was standing on the ground, with or without shoes it sounds like. So, he breaks contact with the ground by sitting in his swing and becomes insulated. There must have been some other insulation going on otherwise the current would have ground through the chair, and the way the answer is worded, it's grounding away from him.

But the line is "if one were to come in contact with it, or its ground." Was he even holding the "tuning fork"? Because, by the sounds of it, if you touched it or it's ground you would die. This is suddenly unclear to me.

Anyway, when I think about the Apkallu in bare feet interacting with the Tree, I remember my little grounding experiment. When I am insulated I'm very AC and not DC but when I'm grounded I'm very DC and not AC. I could make the assumption that the current from the Tree is DC, if that's what's going on.

 

[Benjamin]

Just a thought, did Leedskalnin create a version of a djed pillar?

 

[panoptix]

The previous comment, from @panoptix, hints at the feeding mechanism. I suppose that all those elements could be part of an overall "way of being". It could be, too, that the stones were restricted to specific tasks.

Hi palestine. My hunch goes that every allegedly Mariophany (Mariofanía o Marian apparition), that is a fourth density STS being which appears in front of one or more prepubescent children, is an elaborate staging to gain devotion; and devotion is richness source of energy (perhaps Monroe's DLP: Distilled Loosh producers).

American anthropologist and writer Evans-Wentz became interested in the colonial Marian apparition of Guadalupe, noting that the goddess Tonantzin Coatlaxopeuh (and Coatlaxopeuh sounds like Guadalupe!), a Nahuatl fertility deity, was already venerated with ritual orgies as Our Great Mother, having had a temple—destroyed by Spanish priests—on the same hill where Juan Diego had his visions. However, thanks to the UFO-themed staging on that morning of 1531, a basilica was erected in honor of the apparition, where multitudes of indigenous people ended up converting to Christianity. Ultimately, the intelligence behind these apparitions adapted to the prevailing belief system in order to be worshipped and venerated once again.

If you check what ex-Jesuit Salvador Freixedo has to say, these entities use the children energy to manifest themselves (and I translate):

It will be argued that if it is indeed the Virgin Mary who manifests herself in the various "Marian" apparitions, there is nothing strange about her always asking for more or less the same things and appearing surrounded by the same circumstances. And this objection is not without logic. But the difficulty lies in the fact that we see these same circumstances repeated in the apparitions of Our Lady of Lourdes —recognized by the Church— and in numerous other apparitions that not only have not been recognized as apparitions, but have been rejected by the hierarchy (the case of El Palmar de Troya); and we see them again in the apparitions of Venus or Ceres as narrated by Roman historians; in the legends of fairy apparitions (and the reader should remember that even if fairies did not exist, the fact remains that similar circumstances occur in their legends, transmitted by peoples very distant in time and space); or in the apparitions of the goddess Namagiri in Hinduism or the African Changó...

We have the right to ask ourselves: why? Why do all female apparitions appear the same, do the same or similar things, ask for the same things, and even have the dubious habit of making the seers suffer, if not “abducting them” or dying shortly afterward? Could it be because the cause of the phenomenon is the same, and all it does is adapt to the cultural context in which it appears? Could it be that what the apparition has in mind is not what it says, but something that completely eludes us? [...]

Finally, another striking aspect of the message is the demand for suffering; human suffering, penance, austerity, mortification, renunciation... Marian apparitions, like other apparitions, demand that we offer it willingly, but if we don't, then it will be imposed upon us by force, and that's why there are the threats against everyone that we alluded to in previous paragraphs. [...]

Where is this maternal providence? I ask again: Why, when "the Lord" chooses certain people, does He demand so much suffering from them? Why always pain? Is humanity so evil? Who made it so flawed? And why does God have to ask precisely for pain, physical pain, from humankind?

The last point I try to emphasize about the Marian apparitions is the milking of the vital energy of the visionaries: the cases I've studied reveal that the Contactees are programmed from early childhood and the age range is centered on pre-adolescence: Maybe because the aim is to trigger the “Kundalini syndrome?”