Session 1 November 2025

Could this be related to an alignment and/or sol's companion? It could be a remnant of Venus cometary properties too.

On this day, back in the 17th century:


Venus's ashen light: the mysterious glow from the dark-side of second planet from the Sun

For hundreds of years, astronomers have pondered whether there is any truth to testimonies of a glow illuminating the dark side of Venus.
The ashen light of Venus is rather like an astronomical ghost story: it would be easy to dismiss the phenomenon as a romantic relic of a bygone era were it not for a small number of observations by planetary astronomers well into the 21st century. Will we ever solve the riddle of the ashen light?

The story starts in the 17th century. On the evening of 9 January 1643, Italian astronomer Giovanni Riccioli turned his telescope towards Venus. On that date Venus would have appeared as a crescent, with a phase of about 29%.

Riccioli noticed that the dark side of the planet – which is normally invisible – appeared to be glowing with a faint greyish light that he called ‘The ashen light of Venus’.


The next reported sighting came in 1714 when William Derham, who was a Canon of Windsor, observed it with his telescope and described the ashen light as a ‘dull rusty colour’.

Sir William Herschel also observed the phenomenon on a number of occasions.

The British astronomer Thomas William Webb caught sight of the light on 31 January 1878 with his 9.4-inch reflector.

Using magnifications of 90x and 212x, he noticed that the light had a slight brown-ish cast.

Webb may well have been the first person to recommend using an eyepiece with an occulting bar – a device that hides the brilliant crescent to reduce glare.

20th century sightings of Venus's ashen light

There were many sightings of the ashen light in the 20th century: in 1940, 1953, 1956 and 1957 a number of observers reported sightings on consecutive nights to the British Astronomical Association.

Dale Cruikshank, a planetary scientist at NASA Ames Research Center together with William K Hartmann, also a planetary scientist, made an interesting observation of Venus in 1962.

On 12 November at 7pm, when Venus was at inferior conjunction, both Cruikshank and Hartmann observed the night side of the planet enclosed within a thin ring of light (this would have been the extended cusps of Venus).

The night side seemed to be glowing with a brownish colour, quite different from the surrounding blue sky. The effect was not uniform and appeared to be strongest closest to the thin crescent.

Sir Patrick Moore was another veteran planetary observer who recorded Venus's ashen light.

Although he sighted it numerous times during his long observing career, the event that convinced him of the reality of the light occurred on 27 May 1980.

Using his 15-inch reflector at 300x magnification, Patrick described the effect as ‘striking’, with the ashen light strongly resembling the effect of earthshine on the Moon.

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Could this be related to an alignment and/or sol's companion? It could be a remnant of Venus cometary properties too.

On this day, back in the 17th century:
Yes, there were apparently quite a few phenomena like that during that time, eg. glowing sword of Orion or many instances of red skies. It could have been caused by Birkeland plasma currents between the Sun and the companion on closest approach.

I looked a bit into it and it seems that these Birkeland plasma currents would have had a chaotic structure, not just one or two big filaments. So whenever one of the planets passed through one of these, there could have been visible effects like the Ashen light of Venus.
 
I had been working on this post in December but then Christmas stuff hit and I didn't return to it in time and it got deleted. This is a reconstruction.

I had the idea of comparing the Ark of the Covenant and the Transdimentional Atomic Remolecularizer. Here are several sections pertaining to the AotC.

Nov. 7, 1994
Q: (L) What was the "Ark of the Covenant?"

A:
Power cell.

Q:
(L) What was the origin of this power cell?

A:
Lizards given to the Jews to use for manipulation of others.

Q:
(L) Why was it that if you came close to this object or touched it you would die?

A:
Energy overload; scrambling by reverse electromagnetism.

Q:
(L) What is reverse electromagnetism?

A:
Turned inward.

Q:
(L) What effect does it produce?

A:
Liquification of matter.

Q:
(L) Well, that is pleasant. This "cell" was kept in an ornate box of some sort, is that correct?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) Why was it only the priests who could handle it?

A:
Only those who would not try to use for selfish reasons.

Q:
(L) But then did just coming near it injure a person?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) Well why were these individuals able to come near it?

A:
Nonselfish energy field.

Q:
(L) So it could tune into thought fields?

A:
Yes.

Apr. 11, 1998
Q: Ummm, in reading this funny book I just finished {I believe it was “Fingerprints of the Gods” by Graham Hancock}, I discovered that there is the tradition of the Ark of the Covenant being in Ethiopia. This guy did a bunch of research on it, and it seems possible that it is there, and that it may even be active. Is it, in fact, in the church of St. Mary of Zion in Ethiopia?

A: No.

Q:
Where is it?

A:
If we were to reveal this to you, it would be akin to giving a hand grenade to a baby!! [There are probably other reasons but the previous mention of "liquification of matter" comes to mind. Nevertheless, this might be a confirmation that such a device actually exists on this planet.]

Q: Well, I just thought I would ask! What I found out was that this wonderful Hakluyt Society that chronicled the funny business in the Canary Islands {which I had read previously, and which claimed that the Ark of the covenant was there} also kept track of the goings on in Ethiopia. One of the things they told about was the carrying of the Ark in procession by red or blond headed guys. And there was the Croix Patte of the Templars on a number of objects in Ethiopia. The Rose Croix. Did we have Templars there, or what was going on? Was the Ark there and was it then taken somewhere else?

A: The Ark of the Covenant is not what you think it is.

Q:
You guys said that it was a power cell. I don't have some sort of romantic idea of it. I can accept that. But there are all these stories about it and a lot of people have mythologized it. What do you mean by saying such a thing. What is the Ark?

A:
See Oak Island.

{Trans-dimensional Atomic Remolecularizer?}

Q:
It seems that the Templars were in charge of building the Cathedral at Chartres, and there is a tableaux on one of the porches of Melchizedek and the Queen of Sheba. Equidistant between them is the Ark of the Covenant in a cart. Melchizedek is holding a cup that is supposed to be the Holy Grail. Inside this cup is a cylindrical object of stone. What is this?

A: Greater sight.

So, the AotC gets connected to the TDARM at Oak Island in this session but that doesn't mean they are the same thing.

This next session is very interesting which is known as the Mirror Session where Laura uses "the mirror" under hypnosis. Vincent Bridges was very interested in the AotC (and the Grail) and its current location, which is not revealed.

July 5, 2001
Ark: Can you see kabbalah tree? Its real structure? Through all the densities?

Laura: Umm! As close a representation as there is, it seems is...

VB: [Interrupting] Can you allow yourself to see it by looking through the mirror...

Laura: [Apparently ignoring VB] Now this is very strange.

VB: Describe it.

Laura: Aaaah! This is a very fluid place! Whooo!

VB: Describe it. How do you mean "fluid?"

Laura: Ahh! Well, light doesn't go in straight beams here. It... it ... it's like ropes or strings. You ask about kaballah tree and suddenly I see ropes and strings, structures... the object that we draw as the kaballah tree is very structured and static and has nothing to do with the real thing! Here it is - and it's almost indescribable.

VB:
Keep looking. What happens as you just watch? Can you still see the tree?

Laura: Yes, it's living light that moves and connects like a vast network with infinite...


VB: [Interrupts] Can you show Laura the time machine?

Laura: Would YOU like to see the time machine?

VB: Sure. Can you show Laura the time machine?

Laura: That's an inappropriate request.

VB: Why so?

Laura: It's not phrased properly.

VB: Can Laura see the time machine?

Laura: Would YOU like to see the time machine?

VB: I would like for Laura to see the time machine and describe it to us.

Laura: It seems to be an object about the size of a very large breadbox. It emanates a field, or a glowing beam. I'm not sure if you only have to be in contact with it, or stand in the beam, or if you just stand near it. It's clear that one does not get "inside" it, like in the movies. The field it produces is the important thing.
The beam is like in the movie where they shine the beams up in the sky and wave them around; it's like that, only it has a shape. It's not long, straight and tubular, it's more cone shaped. So yes, there it is, it's...

VB: [Interrupts] Now I want you to stay focused...

Laura [Ignoring the interruption] ...it has angles to it, metal plates, and the structure itself is like some sort of geometric tubing...

VB: Will Laura be able to remember and draw it?

Laura: Actually, in a funny sort of way, it's similar to the shape of the static tree of life on it's side, doubled and inverted like having a mobius twist...

VB: Is this the Ark?


Laura: Yeah... it...

VB: Ark. Noah's Ark. The Ark of the covenant... the Ark of Time...

Laura: The object of which you speak, goes inside... it's the field...

VB: Now, keep looking, and stay outside the mirror; could you show Laura, so she can describe it for us, where, in time, this machine originates?

Laura: Ah! That's odd. The answer comes as 10,000 BC.


VB: Where is it in our immediate future?

Laura: Yes.

VB: Can you show Laura where it is in the immediate future?

Laura: In the immediate future.

VB: Can you show her where on the planet it is, when it enters our future?

Laura: At the appropriate time.

VB: Why is this not the appropriate time?

Laura: Because there would be danger.


VB: Stay on your side... 10,000 BC. Where has it been between then and the immediate future?

Laura: It's been found and used numerous times. It was used for very negative purposes, and it was deemed appropriate to retrieve it and...

...

Laura: Well, this is funny, have you ever seen a cartoon with a pencil being? [Laughs] Oh, that's funny. That's what it's like.

VB: The stick figure is like dowsing rods?

Laura: No. That's... that's... [Laughter] What a play on words! They are so funny! Core. You know the words "core being?" Well, it's not a joke! [Laughter] Just think of yourself as a light being, in a sense, and in another, as not so amorphous as some people would think. There is some plasticity. You know how in this reality, the solid substance seems to be what it is and we have no control over it? Well, in 4th density, there is amorphous substance all around, and there is the "core being," who can assemble this substance by an act of will. It then becomes more structured in the same way food, in our reality, becomes your body, though here it takes a long period of assimilating and converting. There, it is rather quick. There is the core being - and it's really a core!

VB: Like an apple core?

Laura: No, a core - like tubular almost. But you know, most people don't utilize it as such, because they like to play with the materials available. It's more fun. But, it's not necessary, and under different circumstance, they can remove all those things exactly the same way we take off our clothes. [Inaudible] It's just more valuable.

VB: Now, you are using "you." Is that a general term, or is the stick figure me?

Laura: Anybody in 4th density.

VB: Are we in 4th density?

Laura: I am.

VB: So that's YOU, you are seeing in 4th density?

Laura: Me and others.

VB: So the stick figure is you in 4th density?

Laura: It is the visual representation of the core being of any 4th density individual. It is the essence.

Here, the Kabbalah Tree and the AotC get associated together but not as a 1:1 comparison. The AotC/time machine is described as being the size of a very large bread box and sounds like it "goes inside the field". I find Laura's description of "the field it produces is the important thing", very interesting when looking at the Tree of Life/Knowledge with the Apkallu standing next to it. My interpretation would be that the AotC "power cell" generates an EM field and that's what the Apkallu are interacting with. Is it possible that this 'field' is invisible?

And then the description of the Kabbalah Tree itself is very interesting too: a very fluid place; ropes, strings, structures; living light; vast network; infinite... . What is this network of connecting fluid ropes of living light? It sounds like this network is the actual 'tree' with branches made out of plasma (?). Does this 'tree' act as a hyperdimensional multipurpose node for accessing information, communication, travel (time travel?), power generation, charging 'purses', healing, body duplication? Is this network being artistically depicted as the Tree of Knowledge/Life where every 'flower' is another node, all accessed by thoughts?

Apkallu and the Sacred Tree.jpg


This next part is just an idea and I don't really know where I'm going with it. Laura's other description that the visual representation of the core of every 4D being as being almost that of a tubular stick got me thinking about the centre of the 'tree' where there is a six-piece 'trunk' of sorts - three-ring base, trunk, three-ring middle, trunk, three-ring top, flower head - which could be 'tubular stick' in shape. Sort of makes me think of the magnetic field created by two bar magnets.

Dual Bar Magnets with Iron Filings.jpg


I mean, 4D birds on 3D Earth are called Rods, they look kinda tubular, just with wings. Like I said, I'm not sure where I'm going with this bit.

Lastly, Laura's date of the origination of the AotC being 10,000 BC would put it right around the same time as the Pyramids and Stonehenge. Well, I think it's older then that, imo.

Aug. 23, 2001
Q: (L) Well, I still have to deal with this King David issue. He was like a Robin Hood. Now, in another direction, what's this deal about Abraham talking to God. Is this where the whole monotheism came in?

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, it started out with Abraham and his tribe. Did he have reinforcements of his Levite brothers who came and joined his tribe from Hittite land?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Are there any details of this story that I haven't covered that I ought to?

A: David was a Levite.

Q: (L) Was he of the line of Abraham?

A: No.

Q: (L) Did he come from "Hittite land?"

A: Close.

Q: (L) How many generations before he was born did his family come to the area of Palestine?

A: 5.

Q: (L) Were they relatives of Abraham?

A: Somewhat.

Q: (L) Distantly related. So, what did David do? Came along and gathered the people together?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they, or did they not, have the Ark of the Covenant? Was this given to this group of people by 4th density?

A:
Close.

Q:
(L) Who was it originally given to?

A:
Abraham.

Q:
(L) Who gave it to him?

A:
Sara.

Q:
(L) Is the story of Rachel stealing the household gods from her father may have really been the story of Sara stealing the Ark from Akhenaten?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) No wonder Akhenaten was hot to follow them. He wasn't after Sara, he wanted his Ark back.

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) Who gave the Ark to Akhenaten?

A:
STS 4th Density.

Q:
(L) I begin to smell a rat! We have read that David's grandmother, Ruth, was a Moabite. That story is a whole other mystery too. Okay, where does the story the Jews tell about being imprisoned, enslaved, crushed, etc come from? What is the source of this tribal memory of being in captivity?

A:
Sumerian concept.

Q:
(L) Okay, that makes sense. So the Sumerian contribution to the Bible stories mix is the enslavement idea. They had this ancient legend of having been genetically created to be slaves. They were servants to the gods, but not the Pharaoh.

What I find interesting about this section is the mention of Sumeria and I can't help but think of the Apkallu panels.

Feb. 26, 2002
Q: (L) We were making some theories about this object that Vincent Bridges was looking for - the Ark of the Covenant, or the Holy Grail. I believe that we understand that this is an object that is of great usefulness, some kind of lensing device. Is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this something that the STS groups - yeah, we know everybody on earth is STS, but I mean the heavy duty ones - had at one time and then lost, or lost control of?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) How did they lose it?

A:
It was not so much "lost" as it was "retrieved" and put away for safe keeping.

Q:
(R & L) Who retrieved it?

A:
4th density STO mission.

Q:
(L) Who is it that is looking for it? Is it 3rd density STS or 4th density?

A:
Both.

Q:
(L) If it is a 3rd density device why do 4th density critters want it?

A:
It is a trans-density device.

Q:
(L) Well if 4th density STS are so technically advanced how come they can't just make another one?

A:
This item is tuned by consciousness. It is of such a frequency that STS gifts are not capable of such precision. The range includes multiple possibility vectors. STS operates within a narrow range.

Q:
(R) So they can't make it, but they can use it. So they have to find one that is already created. (L) Is that possible? (A) Operated by consciousness. (L)They said tuned not operated. First of all we want to ask whether they mean tuned as in tuned when it was created or as tuned as in using. (A) There is this scenario that they will wait until the STO guy will find it and tune it, and still only then they will jump on 'em. (L) Right. Do you mean tuned as in the tuning of the creation or the tuning of the operation?

A:
Creation.

Q:
(A) Okay. Once it is tuned, it is tuned, right? (R) Yeah. And if it was similar to our simulation then tuning is done by exposing it to similar frequencies. (L) Or maybe assembling it by virtue of frequencies that are produced. But it still needs to be established whether or not they can see it. So we have theorized that the reason they can't find it, the only reason we can see for why they can't find it, is because for some reason it is protected by frequency or something and that they don't know where it is either. Is this correct?

A:
Mostly. They have a general idea.

Q:
What specifically prevents them from isolating the exact spot and getting it?

A:
Occlusion.

Q:
(A) What is occlusion? (R) I think that's similar to ...

A: Frequency fence.

Q:
(R) Which is similar to what we've been talking about. If you don't have the same frequency it's ... (L) Or they can set a frequency around it that these guys can't tune to and can't penetrate. (R) It becomes invisible in some sense. (L) But they can still in some way detect a region or something. But it can be like noise or something maybe; so much noise that they can't isolate the signal. Is this the reason these people keep coming after us, because they want us to help them find this thing? Is this the reason?

A: More or less. Though not the only one.

Q: (R) Well I guess another major reason is just to disrupt in general. So more or less yes, but there are other reasons. Well Jay Weidner said that they now think that Frank is going to help them find it, that he is a channel for Set. (A) We don't know if this is true. What Jay Weidner says about their hopes about Frank. If that were true they would already have Frank they would be busy with Frank and they would be leaving us alone. So, I don't think it is so important. (L) I don't either. It was just bait tossed out by Jay Weidner. (R) I was wondering about the possible positive uses of the device?

A:
Multiple. In ancient times this object was called the Gift of God. It was used to aid in the manifestation of all things needful for existence.

Q:
(A) Manifestation? (R) That sounds like Merkabah. The Matriarch Stone. The Mother Stone. (A) So it can do all kinds of things ... (R) Is this the Merkabah?

A: Mother Stone, yes.

Q:
(R) So that's it! This is the real meaning of the Merkabah. Pretty neat. And there is only one of these available. This puts a very strange aspect on all this. (L) Where was it created?

A:
Kantek.

Q:
Was this what was used to help transport the Kantekkians to Earth at the time of the destruction of their planet?

A:
Some of them. Others transported by Lizards.

Q:
(L) Well that puts a different slant on that. Alright, we notice that when we ask details about it - location, etc - the answers come very slow, details about where it is and all those things. Let's move on.

Dec. 9, 2017
Q: (L) So in other words, there is some truth to issues of good and evil in terms of STS and STO, and in terms of what can and cannot be manifested?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Don't have many people of the right orientation...

(L) I remember the C's said something one time about some kind of... what was it? The Ark of the Covenant could only be handled or used by somebody who had a pure STO profile because anybody else would be killed. Is that basically what we're looking at here?

A:
Yes. Close.

Reading these sections, if I understand it correctly, I get the impression that the AotC, the "Gift of God" and "Mother Stone", was originally a 4D STO device because it's frequency was consciously tuned for a range of multiple possibility vectors with such precision that the narrowness of STS gifts were not capable of building one, but it appears that they could still use it. Or could they?

In the Nov. 7, 1994 session above, the "power cell" was given to the Jews by the Lizzies so they could manipulate others, but then only certain people with a non-selfish energy field - "only those who would not try to use it for selfish reasons" - could use it; ie: the priests. Any other person would receive an energy overload and become liquified by reverse electromagnetism. So, this further suggests an STO oriented creation.

But then, how is it that 4D STS could use such a device? Even if they gave it to a proxy, those proxies would still be using it for selfish reasons through 4D STS. I had a thought that 4D STS maybe created their own version of the AotC known as the TDARM. Because they could be powered magnetically by the Pyramids, are used for abductions and replications, it suggests an STS origin. Could the Jews have been given a TDARM, masquerading as the AotC, instead?

Anyway, at some point, the AotC was in the possession of STS (I'm assuming in it's ornate box so people wouldn't be liquified) and was later reclaimed by an STO mission and subsequently hidden by a frequency fence that allows STS to only have a general idea of it's location. Hence the attempt by Vincent Bridges to try and locate it via Laura, apparently, which failed.

This device first existed on Kantek and was used to transport some Kantekkians off the planet to Earth. I'm assuming it was in 4D STS possession when the planet exploded because it was given to Akhenaten by them... and then stolen by Sara and given to Abraham.

STS wants the AofC because it's a trans-density device.

Feb. 2, 2003
Q: ... (L) ... Okay, onto our research. One of the questions we would like to clear up is the issue of the Holy Grail and the Ark. Is the Ark of the covenant - the ark thing given to the early pre-Mosaic Jews that you have described previously - the same as the Holy Grail?

A: No.

Q: (L) So there are two completely different technologies?

A: If you wish to term it such.

Q: (L) Why did they answer the question that way? What is the distinguishing thing between them? (A) Maybe 'as such' refers to the fact that you termed it 'technology.' Maybe this is not quite the correct term. Technology can be part of it, but maybe not the most important part. (Galahad) Is one an STS tool and the other an STO tool?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (Galahad) Thanks guys! That's real clear!

A: This is an issue that will clarify itself soon enough.

Q: (L) Is my idea correct that we can identify the presence of these more-or-less technologies by the architecture or art or megalithic structures of the different groups on the planet?

A:
To some extent, yes. But do not let that be the only clue. You might consider "lifestyle" as well as the presence and uses of metals; particularly gold vs. iron.

Q:
(L) So, we have a whole different set of clues to look at here. Alrighty then! Was what we are calling the Ark of the Covenant at Baalbek?

A: No. But there were certainly those who had advanced knowledge.

Q: (L) I hate it when they do that: blow my theory to bits. Was there a "grail faction" and an "ark faction?"

A: Pretty much.

Q: (L) Was Baalbek built by the Ark Faction or the Grail Faction?

A:
It was Ark Faction. (Oct. 20, 1994 - Baalbek was build using Sound Wave Focusing.)

Q: (Galahad) Well, we got that part right.

...

Q: (L) Was any of this radiation sickness from being around the ark as we have surmised?

A:
Not so much since it was kept contained. [In an ornate box.]

Lastly, there's this thing about 'elevators' that popped into my mind.

Mar. 18, 1995
Q: ... (F) I read something last night that said a scientist had been working at one of the bases, or he was a tech working at a super-secret complex somewhere, and he was working on something in some underground room and the elevator door opened and he saw, standing there, right before his eyes, a Lizard Being. He said that the elevator must have been malfunctioning because it wasn't supposed to stop at that level, and he wasn't supposed to see it. In another instance, someone saw two Grays working on something in a hangar and they were told by an MP to leave or they would be shot.

(L) Are these stories Frank is recounting about Lizzies being on elevators and Grays working in hangars, are these true stories or are they disinformation?

A:
True.

Q:
(L) Well, that settled that!

Nov. 4, 1995
Q: (T) We plan on staying with it, we're trying to understand this...

(L) You remember when my brother was here, they kept wanting us to come back to the subject of the bases. And we didn't, we wandered off.

(T) Our problem is, we wander a lot of the time. We're worse than Carl Sagan as a group here. We wander off on tangent ideas, and go from one thing to the next. We never stay on a subject. OK, the bases are trans-density bases; they go from the third density to the fifth; they exist in the third, fourth and fifth density all at the same time, is this correct so far?

A:
Close.

Q:
(T) Now, when a being, a soul, whatever, is in the base, do they exist in all three densities at the same time?

A: No.

Q: (L) Hold on, I've got an idea...

A: When you are in a skyscraper, do you exist on all floors at the same time?

Q: (J) No, but you have got to know where the elevator is! (L) Is there something like an elevator that can move you, if you're in these locations, from one density to another, and experience these bases, these trans-density bases, at different levels?

A: It is an elevator!

Q:
(L) OK, so these bases are points... it IS an elevator, so these bases may be places that if you are taken to them, are in them, that through these portals, or trans-density bases, you are thereby able to transit the densities?

A:
You are able anyway.

Q:
(L) OK, but are these specific locations... OK, it is an elevator... (T) Well, not an elevator as we perceive an elevator... (J) Conceptually, yes. It's a conveyance, it's a method.

A: No.

Q: (T) No, that it isn't an elevator as we perceive it? (L) Is it an elevator for...

A:
Literally.

Q:
(L) It is literally an elevator?

A:
Yes.

Q: (L) So you go there to get on to go to different densities?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(T) So, it is that easy?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) So you go to these bases, to go to different densities...

A:
Although, it is possible to enter 4th and 5th in other ways too!

Jan. 25, 2025
Q: (Approaching Infinity & Joe) How can you have a literal elevator that can take a person from 3D to 5D?

A: Don't think of it as an elevator such as those who are familiar with. Think of it as a high tech version of "Beam me up, Scottie." [laughter]

Q: (Joe) "Beam me up, Scottie" is already super high tech! Can't go any higher tech than that!

(L) So, in other words, it would be like an elevator that you would get into, and it would be high tech, and it would demolecularize you and remolecularize you, or something like that?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(Joe) Or not remolecularize you and just your soul, or whatever, goes to 5D. Because the reason we asked the question was because how can you go...? It's not a physical realm. You can't go in a physical elevator. You can't step into an elevator on 3D as a person and take an elevator to 5D. First of all, the elevator can't be in 5D because it's physical, you can't be either because you're physical. So how would that actually happen? But obviously it's super high tech. So, forget about it.

The C's mentioned the AotC is a trans-density device as is the TDARM (Jan. 21, 1995).

This is what I'm thinking: there are two devices that have similar hyperdimensional and trans-density capabilities but are of different alignments; the TDARM has been written out of history and the AotC is masking them; the ToK/L is an artistic interpretation of an EM node that is an access point to an infinite hyperdimensional network.

My other thought is that there was only one technological device, the TDARM, and the AotC is like the Philosophers Stone (the C's did refer to the AotC as the "Mother Stone", after all).

As a side note, remember the Toltec statues that appeared to be holding a "purse" where Puma proposed that those were guns of some sort?

Nov. 4, 1994
Q: (L) What kind of weapons do the Nephilim use to do their "enforcing?"

A:
Stun guns.

Q:
(L) Do they actually use some kind of material weapon?

A:
Yes.
 
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