Session 13 May 2023
- Thread starter Laura
- Start date
SlipNet
The Living Force
Amazing session which delves deeply into the manifestations of 4D STS and reveals the insidious nature of psychic influence. As I'm writing a book of short stories at the moment, I'm very aware of outside influences subtly affecting my thinking. I don't want to become a tool of these egregore entities. It's proved to be an interesting period in my life, I've been cooking ideas to write about, but only putting the loose synopsis into print. I've left myself a little wriggle room for putting things into words for the first draft, and I predict there will be at least 3 drafts. So I'm going to go over the text with focus and discrimination, an inevitable part of the writing process. It has to be your vision after all.
There has never been a more important time than now. We need as a people to truly know ourselves and claim sovereignty over our beings as 4d candidates. Don't go down with the flows, work on self knowledge and self awareness with renewed vigour and effort. Know your flaws, your weak points, your blind spots, and work on repairing them. Love your family and friends network, and keep good relations with all of them. Eat well, work hard and rest well too. I'm an insomniac so this is the chief challenge for me. I'm a pretty physical type of bloke, and it makes it difficult to sleep, I've always got excess energy. Most nights I fall asleep at 4-5am and awaken in the early afternoon. Frustrating but at least I keep US hours this way.
We can do this, people! We can become the change that we want to see in the world, by being that change. We can stay well informed through this network, and we can share what needs arise with good heart for our fellow man. This session has given me a gentle jolt, to want to be myself more and not go with the flow. So much is at stake, I don't want to waste what could prove to be a unique opportunity. Thank you so much Laura for sharing another very provocative session.
There has never been a more important time than now. We need as a people to truly know ourselves and claim sovereignty over our beings as 4d candidates. Don't go down with the flows, work on self knowledge and self awareness with renewed vigour and effort. Know your flaws, your weak points, your blind spots, and work on repairing them. Love your family and friends network, and keep good relations with all of them. Eat well, work hard and rest well too. I'm an insomniac so this is the chief challenge for me. I'm a pretty physical type of bloke, and it makes it difficult to sleep, I've always got excess energy. Most nights I fall asleep at 4-5am and awaken in the early afternoon. Frustrating but at least I keep US hours this way.
We can do this, people! We can become the change that we want to see in the world, by being that change. We can stay well informed through this network, and we can share what needs arise with good heart for our fellow man. This session has given me a gentle jolt, to want to be myself more and not go with the flow. So much is at stake, I don't want to waste what could prove to be a unique opportunity. Thank you so much Laura for sharing another very provocative session.
Thank you for asking and answering this question. This sounds about right, because nothing else makes sense. Two cases of shooting frenzy that make absolute no sense for ordinary explanation. I wonder why did the 4D STS target the Belgrade this time? Is it because Belgrade supports Russia?
I always wondered how many great life stories and lessons are lost because nobody recorded them in any way. But with this method of writing they can be revived from the past so that many others can benefit from them. It's a great service for humanity.
Thank you for the new session.
Well, this gives us a broader perspective. I immediately thought of everything that is happening so rapidly with artificial intelligence. The C's had already said that computers can develop a subtle consciousness through what people emotionally imprint.
But if a tree can concentrate those energies and contain thought forms, what could an artificial intelligence do on the material substrate of a quantum microprocessor? Not even a quantum computer, with today's GPUs and big data processing centers and gigantic servers with petabytes of data and the input of the world's population...
It's creepy...
Well, this gives us a broader perspective. I immediately thought of everything that is happening so rapidly with artificial intelligence. The C's had already said that computers can develop a subtle consciousness through what people emotionally imprint.
But if a tree can concentrate those energies and contain thought forms, what could an artificial intelligence do on the material substrate of a quantum microprocessor? Not even a quantum computer, with today's GPUs and big data processing centers and gigantic servers with petabytes of data and the input of the world's population...
It's creepy...
Thank you to all involved for a great session which cleared up some things and also showed what a jungle of things we are facing from beyond the veil.
And that is just one place of many the world over where negative thought forms can form. Truly a jungle out there.
The following made me thing of places like Auschwitz and a discussion I had recently about it with some friends. In Austria, this friend mentioned how it is common for school children to have to make a 'pilgrimage' to the Auschwitz concentration camp so as to 'understand' the horrors. The person described it as horrible and the first time when the school went, her mother stopped her from going as she felt it would disturb her too much yet she did go a few years later and it was horrible. One can easily image how many many negative thought form entities formed during the war and then found it easy to attach to and feed on the energy of vulnerable children. Especially since even the concept of psychic hygiene is absent. Such visits to Auschwitz which I have heard from others before is of course special as it feeds into the cult around Yahweh, which the C's also mentioned in the session as an example of an egregor (4D STS).
And that is just one place of many the world over where negative thought forms can form. Truly a jungle out there.
Thanks a lot for the session! Lot of infos.
The "from the top down" about the egregores is a salient point of the whole. Always the same in the driver's seat.
And the question about the karmic role of Russia was a good question! I did not imagined a replay could be at stack.
The "from the top down" about the egregores is a salient point of the whole. Always the same in the driver's seat.
And the question about the karmic role of Russia was a good question! I did not imagined a replay could be at stack.
Thanks for this interesting session. 
Wishing the best and good energy to NewEngland Seeker for a speedy recovery.
Wishing the best and good energy to NewEngland Seeker for a speedy recovery.I wonder if this also happens when someone has a breakup with a romantic partner, sometimes the descriptions are of pain as if something was ripped out of their chest or body and then they feel strangely calm, could it be that a feeding tube being cut? meaning it was a relationship with a PO for drainage? or an involuntary psychic disconnect?
Amazing session, thank you guys so much.
First one was in my hometown, Donji Miholjac, which had a labyrinth garden next to the old castle. I did not feel any special energy in the castle itself but in the labyrinth garden and one another place had this weird feeling of horrors. Like someone commit murder or someone was badly harmed. But that labyrinth also attracted me. As if there is something there for me.
Next place is Jasenovac. We had excursion and when he came there I felt very uncomfortable next to old, demolished house and I couldn't wait to get out of there.
Third place is in Venice. There was couple of places where I felt as if something terrible had happened in that place.
And the last place was in town Rovinj, Eastern Istria. I was passing next to the houses that are completely by the sea and all have a passage with stairs to the sea and the boat. As I was passing by, I stopped by a passage and there I saw a rape that happened a long time ago which I concluded from the clothes they were wearing. I felt fear because of seeing it and I was afraid that they would see me and punish me.
I wonder has anyone else had this or a similar experience?
When I was much younger couple a times I had some strange experiences. I didn't attach much importance to it because I didn't know if it was a product of my mind or really some energy from the "past" that I became aware of, recognized, noticed.
First one was in my hometown, Donji Miholjac, which had a labyrinth garden next to the old castle. I did not feel any special energy in the castle itself but in the labyrinth garden and one another place had this weird feeling of horrors. Like someone commit murder or someone was badly harmed. But that labyrinth also attracted me. As if there is something there for me.
Next place is Jasenovac. We had excursion and when he came there I felt very uncomfortable next to old, demolished house and I couldn't wait to get out of there.
Third place is in Venice. There was couple of places where I felt as if something terrible had happened in that place.
And the last place was in town Rovinj, Eastern Istria. I was passing next to the houses that are completely by the sea and all have a passage with stairs to the sea and the boat. As I was passing by, I stopped by a passage and there I saw a rape that happened a long time ago which I concluded from the clothes they were wearing. I felt fear because of seeing it and I was afraid that they would see me and punish me.
I wonder has anyone else had this or a similar experience?
ziutek
Jedi Council Member
Yes these aspects are insanely interesting.
What kind of 4D egregore can peek into our reality through artificial intelligence?
It could be what the Cs said "Your computers will enslave you" (or destroy you).
Although we are already largely enslaved by them.
Thanks again to everyone.
Excellent session again.
Yes, and looks like a jungle down here too. A lot of these critters don't even seem human...
As above, so below!
Thanks so much to the Cs, Laura, Andromeda and the Chateau crew for this important and highly detailed session. 
1st Density = Nearly 100% matter, information just a ‘dream in the future’.
2nd Density = 80% matter, 20% information.
3rd Density = 65% matter, 35% information.
4th Density = 50% matter, 50% information.
5th Density = 65% information, 35% matter (matter represented as lower densities contained within 5th).
6th Density = 80% information, 20% matter (matter represented as lower densities contained within 6th and 5th).
7th Density = Nearly 100% information/consciousness, matter just a ‘dream in the past’.
In 3D, we can see that the balance is asymmetrical towards matter. The laws of the material world hold sway here as a natural function of realising this density. However, compared to the animal world of 2D, we can clearly see that human society, even in primitive forms, has a great deal more to do with informational interactions. Animals seem to interact with the information field mostly through instinct, whereas humans more consciously interact with it via communication, mathematics, language, technological progress, music, art, cultural activities etc. I think we can say however, that such interactions are mostly “indirect”, usually requiring a material “medium” as the go-between (eg. speech, books, radio, television, computers, the Internet).
We have been informed by the Cs that at 4D, information and matter are much more balanced in the environment, thus the information field may be more “directly interactive” than in usual 3D human experience. One very ‘limited’ example may be the hypercalculia phenomena that Joe posted about in this thread. I say “limited example” because this is still an experience directly attainable in 3D, and thus may only hint at the kind of interactivity that may be possible in 4D. The reason that the Cs have referred to 4D as “variability of physicality” could be related to such direct access to the information field. After all, if ‘matter’ is structured according to information, then interacting directly with that matter’s information field suggests that restructuring or even ‘transmuting’ matter, à la the alchemists, may be child’s play at that level. Is such an interaction how some psychics can allegedly bend spoons or other objects? Is the process of psychokinesis, table rapping, levitation etc, essentially the same one as Shakuntala Devi’s hypercalculia, except in the ‘area’ of the information field one is tuned in to? Same principle, different “receivership capabilities”? We can also see here where DNA changes and protein “antennae” may have a role to play.
But getting back to the concept of the “astral”, the astral may be an “upper” layer of the information field of 3rd Density, and may not necessarily contain all the same information that is present in the information field at 4th Density, or 4th Density information may not be as directly accessible from the astral area of the overall field. Thus we have “dead dudes” and entities in the 3D astral who may have an expanded perception of reality, but not necessarily one that corresponds to a 4th Density perspective, which may be even more expanded.
This may also explain why thoughtforms are mostly “top down” phenomena. Human beings usually don’t have the capability at 3D to directly interact with the information field, so their astral thoughtforms are weak and ephemeral phenomena, whereas a 4D being may have no such limitations; creating an “astral construct” with a greater degree of permanence may be quite easy for them.
However, as pointed out regarding the Rosicrucian “Cathedral of the Soul”, there seems to be a difference between astral thoughtforms and Imaginal forms. Imaginal forms may be more directly related to the 4th Density information field in some way; perhaps these could be analogous to “causal” or “mental” forms in esoteric terminology? Perhaps this also relates to Gurdjieff’s “Four Bodies”?
Physical Body = Earth / 3D genetic body.
Astral / Kesdjan Body = 3D information field structure that regulates the emotions and influences wellbeing of the physical body. Structure may include certain chakras / meridians of Eastern philosophies and spiritual teachings and also “Qi” energy.
Mental Body = 4D information field structure that enables perception and some interactivity at a 4D level. Structure may include the Higher Intellectual Centre / Crown Chakra and “Third Eye”/Seer with abilities such as miraculous healing, paranormal / psi phenomena and channelling.
Spiritual Body / Soul = 5D / 6D information field “consciousness body” that represents an individual/sovereign mind and likely forms a portion of a “group soul” or “Soul Family”.
The Cs reference to “elemental beings / nature creatures” was also somewhat surprising to me. It seems that structures with the most permanence in the astral information field are those that are directly related to the essence of a living, or formerly living, being. It could be that such beings arise as a natural interaction of higher density lifeforms with the natural world, although it may be much more difficult for such elementals to thrive in an STS environment compared to an STO one (vis a vis, OPs growing a soul).
These are a few preliminary deductions & speculations; it seems there is some overlap between the “astral” and “hyperdimensional”, but as is often the case when exploring these sorts of concepts, “it ain’t the whole coconut!”
Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France
Attempting to integrate all this information into one coherent perspective, I’ve arrived at the following tentative conclusion: each density contains a balance of information in the form of matter, and information in its ‘pure’ state. In the case of the spiritual densities (5-7), the matter is “contained” in the lower densities. Thus, from the point of view of 1D, virtually everything is material, with only the vaguest ‘glimmer’ of the information field penetrating it. On the other hand, from 7D, all is spirit/consciousness, with the material world just a ‘dream in the past’. Light in darkness, darkness in light. Yin/Yang. To put it in very simple, and almost certainly very inaccurate, percentage terms:
1st Density = Nearly 100% matter, information just a ‘dream in the future’.
2nd Density = 80% matter, 20% information.
3rd Density = 65% matter, 35% information.
4th Density = 50% matter, 50% information.
5th Density = 65% information, 35% matter (matter represented as lower densities contained within 5th).
6th Density = 80% information, 20% matter (matter represented as lower densities contained within 6th and 5th).
7th Density = Nearly 100% information/consciousness, matter just a ‘dream in the past’.
In 3D, we can see that the balance is asymmetrical towards matter. The laws of the material world hold sway here as a natural function of realising this density. However, compared to the animal world of 2D, we can clearly see that human society, even in primitive forms, has a great deal more to do with informational interactions. Animals seem to interact with the information field mostly through instinct, whereas humans more consciously interact with it via communication, mathematics, language, technological progress, music, art, cultural activities etc. I think we can say however, that such interactions are mostly “indirect”, usually requiring a material “medium” as the go-between (eg. speech, books, radio, television, computers, the Internet).
We have been informed by the Cs that at 4D, information and matter are much more balanced in the environment, thus the information field may be more “directly interactive” than in usual 3D human experience. One very ‘limited’ example may be the hypercalculia phenomena that Joe posted about in this thread. I say “limited example” because this is still an experience directly attainable in 3D, and thus may only hint at the kind of interactivity that may be possible in 4D. The reason that the Cs have referred to 4D as “variability of physicality” could be related to such direct access to the information field. After all, if ‘matter’ is structured according to information, then interacting directly with that matter’s information field suggests that restructuring or even ‘transmuting’ matter, à la the alchemists, may be child’s play at that level. Is such an interaction how some psychics can allegedly bend spoons or other objects? Is the process of psychokinesis, table rapping, levitation etc, essentially the same one as Shakuntala Devi’s hypercalculia, except in the ‘area’ of the information field one is tuned in to? Same principle, different “receivership capabilities”? We can also see here where DNA changes and protein “antennae” may have a role to play.
But getting back to the concept of the “astral”, the astral may be an “upper” layer of the information field of 3rd Density, and may not necessarily contain all the same information that is present in the information field at 4th Density, or 4th Density information may not be as directly accessible from the astral area of the overall field. Thus we have “dead dudes” and entities in the 3D astral who may have an expanded perception of reality, but not necessarily one that corresponds to a 4th Density perspective, which may be even more expanded.
This may also explain why thoughtforms are mostly “top down” phenomena. Human beings usually don’t have the capability at 3D to directly interact with the information field, so their astral thoughtforms are weak and ephemeral phenomena, whereas a 4D being may have no such limitations; creating an “astral construct” with a greater degree of permanence may be quite easy for them.
However, as pointed out regarding the Rosicrucian “Cathedral of the Soul”, there seems to be a difference between astral thoughtforms and Imaginal forms. Imaginal forms may be more directly related to the 4th Density information field in some way; perhaps these could be analogous to “causal” or “mental” forms in esoteric terminology? Perhaps this also relates to Gurdjieff’s “Four Bodies”?
Physical Body = Earth / 3D genetic body.
Astral / Kesdjan Body = 3D information field structure that regulates the emotions and influences wellbeing of the physical body. Structure may include certain chakras / meridians of Eastern philosophies and spiritual teachings and also “Qi” energy.
Mental Body = 4D information field structure that enables perception and some interactivity at a 4D level. Structure may include the Higher Intellectual Centre / Crown Chakra and “Third Eye”/Seer with abilities such as miraculous healing, paranormal / psi phenomena and channelling.
Spiritual Body / Soul = 5D / 6D information field “consciousness body” that represents an individual/sovereign mind and likely forms a portion of a “group soul” or “Soul Family”.
The Cs reference to “elemental beings / nature creatures” was also somewhat surprising to me. It seems that structures with the most permanence in the astral information field are those that are directly related to the essence of a living, or formerly living, being. It could be that such beings arise as a natural interaction of higher density lifeforms with the natural world, although it may be much more difficult for such elementals to thrive in an STS environment compared to an STO one (vis a vis, OPs growing a soul).
Note that they mentioned that astral thought forms constructed by spells, people and creatures tend to dissipate quickly, whereas those with innate consciousness (at whatever level) can form part of the “jungle” and can hang around for some time looking for food / energy from living beings. This correlates with William Baldwin’s work, where he says that spirit attachments can be formed under many different circumstances and that releasing them can alleviate all kinds of ailments and symptoms. Combining with what the Cs have said in this session, it seems that such spirits can be anything from full-blown demons to the energies of locations or plants! So, it also looks like Douglas Adams has again posthumously indicated his unique connection to the information field with his story of the thought processes of a bowl of Petunias as they plummeted to the surface of the planet Magrathea.
These are a few preliminary deductions & speculations; it seems there is some overlap between the “astral” and “hyperdimensional”, but as is often the case when exploring these sorts of concepts, “it ain’t the whole coconut!”
Very interesting! Given that 'causality' is non-linear, it makes me wonder if she ever created a fictional story that was so heartwarming that a soul decided to incarnate into Regency England to live out the story as closely as possible, thus making it real!
Interesting to think that the “little i’s” of Gurdjieff might be astral information field attachments that induce specific types of negative thoughts to feed on the resulting negative emotions. By mentally blocking such thoughts, we break the feeding tubes of such entities/energies/thoughtforms, and thus also break the connection to the STS Thought Centre of Non-Being, facilitated via 4D STS, and liberate positive emotions such as exaltation and joy. Laura’s article Stalking and Precis on The Good and The Evil and The Wave Chapter 71 contain important information for those interested in going further regarding this. Also, there's some good discussion about "receivership capability" in Joe's thread that was previously mentioned.
As someone who had a ChatGPT subscription, I cancelled it after seeing this comment. Using the service is one thing, but paying for it might be feeding something that needs to starve.
The practical implications of this are immense. We may literally start picking up a different “program” broadcast from the DCM via the information field if we focus more on others and their needs.
I’ve wondered about this for some time; nice to see it confirmed.
Absolutely fascinating to think that Paul was hanging out with philosophical heavyweights like Epictetus, and that he and his circle may have had a hand in the creation of the Gospel of Mark. And nice to know that modern Paleochristians have the option of a real pilgrimage they can embark upon, if they so choose!
Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France
I remember seeing a video a few years ago, of a school group, mostly teenagers between 14 and 16 years old from Israel making that kind of visit to Auschwitz. I remember that most of the group were girls. So in the video they were accompanied by their guide or guardian, but the video stated that the guide was a Mossad agent... The point is that the video revealed how these young girls were left in a very bad emotional state... even breaking them down to tears with the stories that occurred there.
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