Session 15 August 2020

Pashalis

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in my opinion this is a fake. the guy is fooling everyone by inserting ufo into the video using the video editor.

I think so too. At one point the UFO finally starts to move and he just turns away almost as if he didn't see anything in the original video and inserted the UFO later. Why would you turn away the camera when it gets interesting and the thing starts to move? I say that's because the UFO never was seen in the original unedited video to begin with.
 

nyseday

The Force is Strong With This One
Off the topic. I'm very curious what C's would say about the destruction of Benedictine abbey at Monte Casino, that Walter Miller (author of Canticle for Leibowitz) was part of. Something there that needed to be buried? Did Miller saw something that made him shy away from people for over 40 years? Then committing suicide. Is there a clue in his above mentioned book, that to this day is very popular read? Just madman's musings...
 

Luks

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Off the topic. I'm very curious what C's would say about the destruction of Benedictine abbey at Monte Casino, that Walter Miller (author of Canticle for Leibowitz) was part of. Something there that needed to be buried? Did Miller saw something that made him shy away from people for over 40 years? Then committing suicide. Is there a clue in his above mentioned book, that to this day is very popular read? Just madman's musings...
Nice that you are curious. But if people would ask the questions there will be no end to answering them. This is rather a question to look for an answer on our own. Honestly, you make me curious about that mention too, however still...
 

nyseday

The Force is Strong With This One
Nice that you are curious. But if people would ask the questions there will be no end to answering them. This is rather a question to look for an answer on our own. Honestly, you make me curious about that mention too, however still...
Thank you. I have been reading this book and it has very curious religious undertones. There was a secret there. Oldest Benedictine monastery destroyed by mistake? Not a chance. Additionally Laura just completed a religious work that is going to be published soon. And she did say that when it comes to history of our religion, there is nothing but lies, lies and cover ups.
 

Andrian

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Except the quality of information is decidedly different. Case in point would be the coronavirus video on her channel:
https://w_w_w.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPn5rpFUFc

It is basically mainstream talking points. Wear a mask for protection, wash your hands, etc. There are some small differences - like they said go outside rather than stay indoors. But not anything new or interesting, and just parrots what mainstream knows about the virus. The questioner even asked if the "federation of light" would intervene if it got out of hand and presented a danger to the human race, and the entity being channeled said they have a meeting in April and he can bring it up to the council. Like.. really? Whoever she's channeling isn't very informed and/or doesn't have access to much - if she's really channeling anyone at all. I didn't watch the other videos, but I'm not sure if I even want to given the level of information in this one.
This channeler is basically another cointelpro new age mumbo jumbo word salad movement most probably a disinfo campaign designed to target and lead astray the Russian audience. @Keit and other Russian speaking forum members discussed this argument on the following thread: Russian Cointelpro
 

Keit

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Another two cents about a guy from Kemerovo who "found" an alien glass through which UFOs are visible....
this guy is a videographer and he came clean when someone traced the donation request to his real account email. I can provide a link to a debunking video by another YouTuber...
This channeler is basically another cointelpro new age mumbo jumbo word salad movement most probably a disinfo campaign designed to target and lead astray the Russian audience. @Keit and other Russian speaking forum members discussed this argument on the following thread: Russian Cointelpro

Yeah, both the UFO video and Podzorova were discussed and linked to earlier this month in another thread.
 

Hitsu

Padawan Learner
(L) Now one thing that's really been bugging me is this thing about masks. For years, they put all this money and effort into creating facial recognition software. They put cameras everywhere. Now all of a sudden they're putting masks on everybody which makes facial recognition software just completely obsolete - after all that money and time and effort! So, what's the real deal with the masks?

A: Facial recognition was never the full plan as it can be easily thwarted. It was used to accustom populace to tracking and surveillance. The ultimate surveillance is chipping. The fake pandemic justifies the vaccine with chip and wider tracking mandate. The mask is similar to antismoking. It induces obedience and allows identification of dissidence. Masks have the additional advantage of inducing brain damage and lowering of intelligence and general health.

Q: (Joe) Masks induce brain damage...

(Andromeda) Low oxygen?

(L) Lemme ask: Is the brain damage from low oxygen causing the death of neurons?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And the lowering of health is because of the accumulation of viral and other pathogen loads in the masks themselves?

A: Yes

Not sure if this was already posted here but regarding avoiding brain damage from low oxygen, for me there are 3 ways:

1. Do not wear mask (in Poland, right now we have to wear mask in public transport, but you can safely don't wear it and it will be fine in most cases).

2. You can buy "corona mask visor", something like this ->
3. You can wear cheap mask with do not wear it on the nose.
Something like:
{ this will work in Poland in all cases, even in Rossmann and other shops, they won't complain about it }

P.S. https://demotywatory.pl/uploads/202005/1588946942_xvcea4_600.jpg (joke for polish ppl)
 

Luks

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Not sure if this was already posted here but regarding avoiding brain damage from low oxygen, for me there are 3 ways:

1. Do not wear mask (in Poland, right now we have to wear mask in public transport, but you can safely don't wear it and it will be fine in most cases).

2. You can buy "corona mask visor", something like this ->
3. You can wear cheap mask with do not wear it on the nose.
Something like:
{ this will work in Poland in all cases, even in Rossmann and other shops, they won't complain about it }

P.S. https://demotywatory.pl/uploads/202005/1588946942_xvcea4_600.jpg (joke for polish ppl)

Of course, I understand the joke. However, it also shows how people are irrational. Some people may interpret it, quite differently. And if you appoint them that they do not breathe through their penis, that rather does not work on them.
 

luc

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(Ark) So the first question is about the idea of multiverse. There is such a thing that is called multiverse. It's supposed to be like a soup that is boiling, and that produces bubbles. These bubbles are universes. Some bubbles are small and they die very soon, and some bubbles are big and have enough energy and organization like our universe. We are one of the big bubbles. Is it an approximately correct idea?

A: No.

Q: (Joe) No bubbles.

(Andromeda) No soup.

A: Based on Darwinism.

Q: (L) In other words, random selection.

(Ark) This eliminates a number of planned questions. [laughter] Alright... Like a year ago...

A: Consciousness and information are foundational. There is no place for either in "boiling" and random emergence.

Q: (Ark) Yeah, alright. Now I want to ask: A year or two ago there was a Nobel Prize given for the detection of a gravitational wave. Since then, most of the people accept it, but there are some dissidents that call it a big fraud...

A: Yes

Q: (Ark) Oh, okay. Now, one of the guys who called it a big fraud is my old kind of friend by the name of Dimi Chakalov.

(L) I remember Dimi.

(Ark) We were discussing things years ago. Now, he is of course he doesn't spare words, calling it a fraud and blah blah blah. He gives arguments. But on the other hand, recently I downloaded a bunch of his recent papers. He is working on his idea of a platonic world. His platonic world is where all these ideas are being formed. Should I really study his ideas because he's onto something? Can I gain something from studying his crazy papers?

A: Briefly and selectively.

Q: (Ark) That was about Dimi. Last question: I would like to know if there is some most important law that governs all of the creation. We know conservation of energy is an important law. You can think about conservation of information. Maybe there is such a law? This John Archibald Wheeler who we quoted several times, he added his own law which is kind of timeless which says that it's pure geometric boundary which says boundary is zero. Another possible law is: As above, so below. Okay. Is there any kind of a fundamental physical law? Well, not physical... Some fundamental law of creation?

A: Free will.

That's all very interesting!

Yes, the bubbling universes seem to be another straw the Darwinist-materialist crowd seems to grasp at in order to explain the stunningly complex and fine-tuned order, that is information-richness, of our universe.

They pull off a similar maneuver on the quantum level (Dennet and his ilk): they interpret the indeterminism of qunatum mechanics as producing many parallel worlds all the time (many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics). This saves their precious view that our material world is still deterministic, and avoids the collapse of quantum waves, action at a distance and randomness. David Hodgson mounts/summarizes an interesting argument against this view: because in the quantum world, we are dealing with probabilities, this must be somehow reflected in these many worlds that supposedly spring into existence all the time. But this would lead to all kinds of absurdities. The alternative view is that consciousness does indeed collapse wave functions and thus brings things that only exist in a state of options into actuality in our reality. (See Hodgson "Quantum Physics, Consciousness and Free Will" in the Oxford Handbook of Free Will). If I understood all that correctly.
 

Bluegazer

Jedi Council Member
Q: (L) Okay. Is the Russian Covid-19 vaccine safe as they say?

A: Safe enough. Safer than what Gates is planning.

Well, that's a relief. Since vaccination here in Argentina is mandatory, and 10/25 million doses of the Russian vaccine have already been purchased, I hope and believe that we can dodge the bullet.


Coronavirus in Argentina: the Government will buy 10 million doses of the Russian vaccine Sputnik V, which will arrive in December


Alberto Fernández will talk tomorrow with Vladimir Putin about the purchase that Argentina will make of the Russian vaccine against the coronavirus
 

Mike

The Living Force
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If that is so, and a piece of information depends on what minds will do with it in the future, is the “object” of this information influenced by the future as well? Is the writer of a book, for example, influenced by what future readers will get from it or do with it? It kind of would make sense that information, if it depends on and changes according to minds interacting with it, might transcend time and space. But if there are different futures where minds do different things with the information, how do they affect the information, and which possible future might be dominant?

Thank you Luc for the review of the book. Interesting questions and thoughts. Your last thoughts and questions brought to mind something I had thought about a number of months ago.

I’m including it here since my response touches more on the question from Pierre in this session about information and the information field.

15 Aug 2020 said:
Q: (Pierre) For the information field, does all information already exist or is information added through the experience of creatures?

(L) I didn't understand that.

(Joe) His question is does all information already exist, or is new information created and added by individuals through their experiences?

(Ark) Well, for me, time does not apply. So things like conservation of information doesn't make much sense in the information world. It may make sense when the information starts to interact with matter, but only then.

(Pierre) Would you say then that the information field contains already ALL possible information?

A: Yes

When you mentioned information basically and possibly transcending time and space with relation to minds, it reminded me of the above question from Pierre and the answer.

I had been thinking that since the information field already contains all possible information the permutations and variations that consciousness might use this information for might be infinite within reality.

It also made me think that the universal information system or field may be similar to water and space in a way (I’m not sure how the last C’s comment about ether at the end fits in). The universal information field or system may allow for consciousness to be stored or ‘flow’ or travel (even transcending space) like information is stored in water and space.

Here is the C’s sessions that talks about the interesting properties of water in relation to information. It also talks about space being like water.

6 Feb 2016 said:
(L) Oh yeah! This is very interesting. I forgot to tell ya'll about this. Ark has read a very interesting study about water and how you can talk to it and program it.

(Arky) So question is first, is it really the case that water is so smart that when you talk to it, you can change its properties?

A: Yes

Q: (Arky) Okay. Now, what is it in the water that makes it so sensitive to intentions that they make the water change its chemical and biological functions?

A: This goes beyond the material properties to the information field that is the fundament of water, a most basic substance in the cosmos with strong creative and receptive qualities.


Q: (Galatea) Water has memory. It's like a library. It has memory.

(L) That's the problem we're trying to get to.

(Galatea) Oh, you're trying to understand why?

(L) Exactly.

(Arky) Is water really VERY, VERY, VERY special in this respect?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) So other substances don't have those properties?

A: Right.

Q: (Galatea) That's where the idea holy water comes from.

(Joe) So, should we talk to our water?

(Arky) Yes

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) What should we say?

(L) Good water! Good water!

(Andromeda) Nice water! [laughter]

(Galatea) Is it good to let rainwater touch your skin whenever it rains?

A: Not much recently, you might get burned.

Q: (L) Acid rain. You've got more questions about the water, honey?

(Arky) Not about the water. I want to ask about dialectical logic. There was this guy Hegel. He invented what is called dialectics. It can be summarized like contradictions are important; there is thesis, anti-thesis, and then you have synthesis. Okay... There is idealistic dialectics, materialistic, etc. And of course there are critics saying it's nonsense, that the only good logic is Aristotelian logic, and all this dialectics is just pure nonsense. I would like to have some hint. Should I study dialectic logic and Hegel?

A: Law of Three rules!

Q: (Arky) Law of three?

(Pierre) Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

(Arky) Okay, I am done.

(Joe) On the water thing, is it best to do this with distilled water?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I have a question that'll sound crazy. Is water similar to space?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I knew it! [laughter]

(Pierre) Similar in what sense?

(L) It's like etheric.

(Galatea) Space is water?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I knew it!

(L) So did the ancients. They called it The Waters Above.

(Galatea) Really?


(Joe) Can we make heavy water by talking to it?

(Arky) No, no, no. With water, this is very strange. I was reading about the experiments. So, first you talk to water, you test the water, and it makes it different. But then you have to be clever. If it is just information, you don't have to talk to water. You use the computer to convert your talk into a number. You print the number on the piece of paper, you put it on the bottle, and water should be smart enough because anyhow it's information! It's not your talk. It's somewhere, right? You put it on the label, and water knows what was your intention. Experiments were even done like that.

(Galatea) Water is the Google search of the universe.

A: Yes

Q: (Arky) You convert your talk to a number, like 1000, 2010, okay there's a number. Your language and intent is this number. But you can say something with good intentions, or with wrong intention. The algorithm is such that it may produce the same number for either. Yet, it seems that the water is smart enough that even if you put the same number on two bottles, but derived from different language and intent, it knows whether the intention was positive or negative!

(L) Even if the number is the same?!

(Arky) You see? So the information is somewhere. It's not really important what words you use or what you say exactly. You communicate in some way with the information field that is everywhere.

(Pierre) And the water has this special connection to the information field, and it knows what the number is related to.


(Arky) So your piece of paper is really the address of a piece of information.

A: Yes

(Andromeda) That's fascinating.

(Arky) Now, I would like to know because there are many different approaches. Sheldrake we know, but he's not a physicist; he's just talking fields, fields, fields, blah blah blah. I mean, what would be the best entry point in physics to this information field? Electromagnetics? Gravity? Quantum theory?

(Pierre) Light?

A: EM gravity.

Q: (Pierre) Electromagnetic gravity! [laughter]

(Scottie) No problem.

A: Make it your goal to make this hold in math.

Q: (Arky) Let me continue. [laughter] I was reading some words by this Russian-Israeli physicist. He was claiming that what was wrong with physics actually began with Maxwell because Maxwell introduces this concept of an abstract field, and electromagnetic field, to get rid of the concept of the ether. From Maxwell, it ALL went wrong! Even if Maxwell made the EM theory, it was already on the wrong way.

A: Just so! Ether is the interface between information and manifestation.

Q: (Arky) OH!

(Pierre) Because there's still a link between information on one side, and matter and energy on the other side. And once I asked this question. They mentioned "sphere arranged leptons", but I don't know what it means. It was way beyond my knowledge.

A: Gravity "travels" on ether.

And that brings to mind that the C’s and/or 6D STO are Consciousness or Thought Forms or Thought Centers that ride The Wave.

Transient Passengers | Cassiopaea

Are they riding a wave of information as consciousness in the universal information field or system similar to how information might ride a wave in water, since it is stored in the water which moves? And that this wave of information is also expressed in the material realm in energetic expressions, which people on earth will experience as hyperkinetic sensate. That the wave of information, which has aspects of consciousness at all levels associated with it, is intimately tied to energy and this wave of energy and information will affect the material realms. But that does not exactly capture how I’m thinking about it though and it is hard for me to explain, since all of this is within an interconnected system spanning multiple levels of reality and awareness.

Also, the possibility that consciousness is stored and ‘travels’ in the universal information field raises the question about how consciousness, such as the C’s as pure consciousness riding the wave, is formed and stable within in the universal information field. What holds this consciousness together? Is the consciousness, such as the C’s possess without it seems material representation, some formation and structure of information and energy tied together? What can also be thought of is that if the C’s are some of us in the future (or at the very least Laura) that there is a material connection with the C’s in terms of their consciousness which is the same, but larger, as some of us here and now with us being the C’s in the past. That the question of consciousness transcends time and/or our awareness and understanding of time, since it seems to transcend the past, present, and future. The past, present, and future are all connected via consciousness and thus all the levels of reality in terms of densities are connected, whether there is a material representation or connection or not, via this consciousness and its growth via the growth in knowledge and awareness. Connected via this growth of consciousness and widening of knowledge and awareness through the different levels of densities?

That is hard for my mind to wrap around.

As a side note: Clif High has done a lot of recent videos on magnetism and mentions ether a lot. He credits the book ‘A Theory Of Natural Philosophy’ by Roger Boscovich as helping him to make many breakthroughs with magnetism in terms of understanding and application, a few of which he has recently been awarded patents for.

 

goyacobol

The Living Force
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Are they riding a wave of information as consciousness in the universal information field or system similar to how information might ride a wave in water, since it is stored in the water which moves?

@Mike ,

I think that would possibly be true if consciousness is "thought" according to what they said in the following session:

Session 11 January 1995:
Q: (Barry) What do you mean by traveling on the wave?

A: Traveling on thoughts.


Q: (Frank) Our thoughts or your thoughts?

A: Not correct concept.

Q: (L) What is the correct concept?

A: All is just lessons.

Q: (L) Whose thoughts are they?

A: Thoughts unify all reality in existence and are all shared.

And I think the "etheric" comparison by @Laura is significant.

Session 6 February 2016:
Q: (Galatea) I have a question that'll sound crazy. Is water similar to space?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I knew it! [laughter]

(Pierre) Similar in what sense?

(L) It's like etheric.

(Galatea) Space is water?

A: Yes

I think there may be a significant relationship between the matter/physical and ether/etheric/ethereal realms.

Session 17 June 1995:
Q: (L) I don't want to. (J) There is also no space! (T) Does the sphere keep expanding... as the circle expands and you turn the circle 180 ', you get a sphere. As the sphere continues to expand it, you take a point on the outer edge of the sphere in order to take the sphere about itself, you get a donut, an ever expanding inner tube. (L) With a black hole in the middle! (SV) Why does it have to be a black hole? (J) It's a spiral. (T) If you take that and twist it, you get an even larger inner tube. It just continues to expand and encompasses more space...

A: And now, when you merge densities, or traverse densities, what you have is the merging of physical reality and ethereal reality, which involves thought form versus physicality. When you can merge those perfectly, what you realize then, is that the reason there is no beginning and no end is merely because there is no need for you to contemplate a beginning or an end after you have completed your development. When you are at union with the One at Seventh density, that is when you have accomplished this and then there is no longer any need for difference between physical and ethereal forms.

With The Wave growing stronger I think there may be some new thoughts coming our way but we need to have the receivers/antenna to receive them.
 
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