Session 2 May 1998

[Mr. Premise]

Thanks, Mr. Premise for correcting my mistake! Sorry folks.

What you wrote wasn't a mistake, Cassandra, I apologize for not being more clear. What you wrote is true for the last 3 or 4 hundred years, I was just going farther back to the origin of the term Hochdeutsch in the Middle Ages. So you're right that High German is now spoken and learned in school throughout all Germany in addition to the regional dialects but Muxel is also right that High German originated in Southern Germany (highlands).

I should also add to what I wrote that the other, more common, term for Low German is Plattdeutsch or "Flat German" which refers to the lowlands also.

 

[Avi]

This was the first of the Iron Age cultures. The western regions of this culture, between France and west Germany, already spoke a Celtic language. Around the year 600 BC the Greek geographer Herodotus writes of the Celts dwelling beyond the "Pillars of Hercules" (i.e. Spain) and the Upper Danube. The name "Celt" probably came from the dominant tribe of the Hallstatt, and became a unifying concept for the whole culture.

Lake Neusiedl (once part of the Pannonian Sea) was first inhabited by the Hallstatt culture (Early Iron Age). City of Iron (Eisenstadt)!

There appears to be some confusion between "Ice" and "Iron" so here's what I dug up:
[quote author=_http://starling.rinet.ru/]
Germanic: "*īs"
Proto-IE: *ayes-
Meaning: metal, ore (copper, magnetic)
Old Indian: áyas- n. `iron, metal'
Avestan: ayaŋh- n. 'Metall, Eisen'
Germanic: *aiz-a- n.; *ī́sarn-a-, *īzarn-a- n.; *aiz-ug-a-z m.
Latin: aes, gen. aeris n. `Erz, Bronze, Kupfer, Geld'
Other Italic: Umbr ahesnes `aenis'
Celtic: *īsarno-: Gaul pl.Isarnodori gl. `ferrei ostii'; Isarnum; OIr iarnn; OBret Iserninus (Männername); Cymr hayarn, Corn hoern
Russ. meaning: металл, руда (медная, железная)

Proto-IE: *īs- (?)
Meaning: pelvis, hip, hip-bone
Old Greek: iskhío-n n. `Hüftgelenk, Hüfte', ískhi = osphǘs (Hsch.)
Germanic: *ī́s=
Russ. meaning: тазобедренное что-то

Proto-Germanic: *ī́s=
Meaning: hip-bone
English: dial. ice-bone
Old Saxon: īs-been
Middle Dutch: īse-ben, ijs-been `heupbeen, heiligbeen'
Dutch: ijsbeen n. `dijsbeen in een varkensham'
Middle Low German: īs-been
Old High German: { īs-pein }
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Note: Isern (Celtic), Eisen (Germanic) — connotes "metallic".
Isn't it curious that "hip bone" cropped up? Jacob's hip...Jacobus Handl...?
Now we have: Ice, Iron, Hip bone.

From truth seeker's link:
[quote author=_http://starling.rinet.ru/]
Proto-IE: *eig'-
Meaning: ice-floe, icicle
Hittite: eka- n. 'Eis?', ekuna-, ikuna- 'kalt' (Tischler 103, 105)
Slavic: [ *jьkrā `льдина' - с глухим под влиянием прочих "икр" ? ]
Baltic: *eĩǯ-iā̃, *eĩǯ-ia- c., *iǯ-ā̂ f., *iǯ-a- c.
Germanic: *jik-an- m., *jik-il-a-, -ul-a- m.
Celtic: MIr aig, gen. ega f. `Eis'; Cymr iā m. `Eis', iaen `glacicula'; OCorn iey gl. `glaties', iein gl. `frigus'; MCorn yeyn, yen `kalt'; Bret ien `kalt'
Russ. meaning: льдина, сосулька

I don't feel that "Ice" applies here. The results show "Eis" is found in two Celtic languages and one Hittite language. However the "Eis" we want is a Germanic one, if that makes any sense. So, I think "Eis" comes from the Germanic "*īs". Which makes sense because then "Eisen" would be the adjective form of "Eis".

"But eiswein translates to ice wine—it says so on Wikipedia!" you exclaim. "Not so," answered I. Ice wine is basically the grapes being left out to freeze so a more concentrated wine can be produced. Raisins are a recommended source of dietary iron for anemics; they're more "efficient" than grapes because they've been dehydrated. One could say the iron has been "concentrated". Same with eiswein—would it be a stretch to say that it's iron wine because it's concentrated?

Celts, Iron, Faerie. Any fellow Terry Pratchett fan here remember "iron in the head" from Lords and Ladies?

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Really intriguing, Muxel. Thanks for sharing. :)

Nope, don't remember Lords and Ladies, but what does come to mind reading this thread, is Sergei Eisenstein. A bit of a tangent, true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Eisenstein

Film has had quite an effect on human perception in the 20th C - Battleship Potemkin is arguably the seed which sprouted all the fruit (some of which is very rotten) we see in the world of cinema today. Until this film, montage and the mise-en-scene were still in infancy, it revolutionized the industry, which admittedly was very young at the time and is considered a classic, like, one of the top ten films of all-time.

Battleship Potemkin has been called one of the most influential propaganda films of all time,[1] and was named the greatest film of all time at the Brussels World's Fair in 1958.[2][3][4] The film is in the public domain in some parts of the world.[5]
Contents [hide]
1 Film style and content
2 The Odessa Steps sequence
2.1 Treatment in other works of art
3 Distribution, censorship and restoration
4 Soundtracks
5 Critical reaction
6 Cast
7 Notes
8 External links
[edit]Film style and content

The film is composed of five episodes:
"Men and Maggots" (Люди и черви), in which the sailors protest at having to eat rotten meat;
"Drama on the deck" (Драма на тендре), in which the sailors mutiny and their leader, Vakulinchuk, is killed;
"A Dead Man Calls for Justice" (Мёртвый взывает) in which Vakulinchuk's body is mourned over by the people of Odessa;
"The Odessa Staircase" (Одесская лестница), in which Tsarist soldiers massacre the Odessans; and
"The Rendez-Vous with a Squadron" (Встреча с эскадрой), in which the squadron tasked with stopping the Potemkin instead declines to engage, and its sailors cheer on the rebellious battleship.

Eisenstein wrote the film as a revolutionary propaganda film,[6][7] but also used it to test his theories of "montage".[8] The revolutionary Soviet filmmakers of the Kuleshov school of filmmaking were experimenting with the effect of film editing on audiences, and Eisenstein attempted to edit the film in such a way as to produce the greatest emotional response, so that the viewer would feel sympathy for the rebellious sailors of the Battleship Potemkin and hatred for their cruel overlords. In the manner of most propaganda, the characterization is simple, so that the audience could clearly see with whom they should sympathize.

As I said, most likely unrelated to this thread, but Eisen made me think of Eisenstein and those not familiar with the film or filmmaker may enjoy this.

Cheers,

~H

 

[Muxel]

Don't worry about it cassandra, in fact you pointed me in another direction—Bavaria! More in next post.


Hi Herakles, I went off to watch the "Odessa Steps scene" and I feel a bit more cultured now. :D
[quote author=_http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/eisenstein][list type=decimal][*]German: topographic name for someone who lived by a place where iron ore was extracted, or perhaps a habitational name from a place named for its iron workings.
[*]Jewish (Ashkenazic): ornamental compound of German Eisen 'iron' + Stein 'stone'.[/list][/quote]
Sergei got the name from his German-Jewish dad, so "2" applies to him. But isn't "1" interesting? Living around iron-stones, being around iron...
[quote author=_http://debate.atheist.net/showthread.php?t=1373&page=6]The rocks that comprise the Stonehenge monoliths are mafic bluestones, the kind of rocks that form in subduction zones (usually visible in ophiolite sequences like those in the Alps and Iran). Their composition is analogous to that of a volcanic rock, lots of metals, specifically iron and magnesium.

The ground that Stonehenge sits on? Chalk, a white sedimentary rock that forms in shallow, warm tropical seas, a carbonate.[/quote]
The key words here are "mafic" and "iron". The Stonehenge builders specifically needed iron-stones, and there were none in the immediate vicinity, so they had to go all the way to Mynydd Y Preselau to get it!


Building upon truth seeker's info (Pedunculate oak and alfalfa growing in Carpathian Plain)—
This link explains why the Carpathian Basin is alkaline:
[quote author=_http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/library/themes/salinization/]Two main types of salt accumulation in soil can be distinguished in Europe:

• Continental salt accumulation due to intense weathering and arid climate or due to hydro-geological conditions (e.g. closed evaporative basins).
• Human induced salt accumulation due to improper land use (e.g. irrigation, fertilizer application).

The Carpathian Basin in Hungary is a good example of the first case. Surface runoff, seepage and groundwater transport soluble weathering products from a large water catchment area to the lowest part of the basin where subsurface waters, enriched with sodium, calcium and magnesium carbonate (salts), accumulate in a thick continuous aquifer. In poorly drained, low lying areas, capillary flow transports high amounts of water soluble salts from the shallow, stagnant groundwater to the overlying soil horizons. Due to the chemistry of the soil solution (strongly alkaline), the sodium is the dominant element in the migrating waters. High sodium saturation of heavy-textured soil with large amount of expanding clay minerals results in unfavourable soil properties and limits their fertility, productivity and agricultural utility.[/quote]
Plants that cannot stand alkaline soils develop iron chlorosis (their leaves can't produce chlorophyll and get yellow) and become really sick. However, lucerne (alfalfa) thrives in alkaline (high pH) soil! The English oak (Pedunculate oak) also tolerates alkaline soil.
[quote author=_http://www.ext.colostate.edu/ptlk/2115.html]In alkaline soils, iron is present in a chemical form less usable by plants.[/quote]
[quote author=_http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8386730_iron-deficiencies-pin-oak-trees.html#ixzz1l3LBCkJg]Iron chlorosis is usually caused by alkaline soil, which binds the iron in the soil making it unavailable to plants.[/quote]
So we have soil rich in iron (alkalinity prevents iron from being depleted by plants), soil bound to iron...


As an aside (dunno if this is relevant):
[quote author=Cassiopaean transcripts]A: Trampled leaves of wrath.
Q: This is what Jacob gave to Esau?
A: Yes, and what is the "core" meaning there?
Q: I don't know. What is the core meaning?
A: Leaves are of the Tree of Apples, from whence we get the proverbial "grapes of wrath", the Blue Apples incarnate!
Q: Why are these leaves 'trampled'?
A: Removes chlorophyll.
Q: What is the significance of the chlorophyll?
A: When the chlorophyll dies, the autumnal equinox is at hand.[/quote]
Lack of iron, chlorophyll dies. As for Blue Apples...Oxidized iron in our body makes our blood red; when the iron is deoxidized, our blood turns blue. Oxidized copper (Cu2+) is blue-green; if the 4D "bluebloods" had copper blood instead of iron, their blood would be blue. So, iron-blood = Red Apples / copper-blood = Blue Apples. Refer to Laura's take on "Blue Apples" here. Does an iron-deficient apple tree produce blue apples? Does a tree that uses copper (a "4D tree") produce blue apples? Maybe I'm being too literal here.

 

[mada85]

26 July 1997
Q: Did the Templars discover the secrets of the Ishmaelis, the Assassini, and is this what they carried into Europe, and then underground?
A: Buried in Galle.

A bloodline?

23 August 2001

Q: (L) What is the difference between Galle and Gaul?
A: Clue.
Q: (L) Do they both refer to France?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Galle refer to Rhineland?
A: Close.

There is an old French family called Galle. Some limited info can be seen at House of Names. Right click and copy functions are disabled on this page.

Some of the Galle family settled in the New World in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. The American branch of the family has a genealogy website here.

Don’t know if this relates:

[quote author=Wikipedia] The cockerel was already of symbolic importance in Gaul at the time of the invasion of Julius Caesar and was associated with the god Lugus. . . Today it is an emblem of France, Wallonia and Denizli.

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According to House of Names, the Galle family crest features a cockerel.

Surname web says:

Origin: Galli is an Italian word meaning 'roosters'. In ancient Roman times, Gaul was a name of a province consisting of present-day France, Belgium, and Switzerland. The Latin name for Gaul was Gallia, literally meaning 'land of the Galli'. At that time, 'Galli' meant 'man of Gaul', to denote a vain person with a fickle characteristic. Interestingly, the Romans used that term as a degratory term associating the Gauls with roosters for their fanatical obsession with fighting as is probably seen in cock-fighting. Another origin of the Gallii surname is probably from when in ancient Rome, there were priests of Cybele who were called 'galli' from newly-conquered Phrygia. They brought the religion of Cybele Magna Mater to Rome, one more religion brought in the Empire out of many others from other conquered provinces. They would practice forms of self-mulitation including castrating themselves as part of their religious ceremonies. Coincidentially, just to the east of Phrygia was the land of Galatia, meaning 'Galli (or Gauls) of the east', its population being Gaulish and Greek. So it is just one aspect out of many behind the history of the first Galli surname.
Surnames: Galle, Galli, Gallo, Galley

More info on the surname 'Galle' can be found here although the author only discusses the English and Scottish derivations.

This page on the Ancient Faces website lists some ancient members of the Galle family going back to the twelfth century.

 

[truth seeker]

Just found this and thought the timing to be interesting as it relates to eiswein. It may or may not mean anything.:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06/czech-ice-wine_n_1256839.html?ref=world

STOSIKOVICE NA LOUCE, Czech Republic -- In a vineyard in Moravia, the Arctic chill striking Europe at least has some people jumping with joy.

Winemakers in southeast Czech Republic, waiting for a dip in temperatures during an unusually warm winter, finally got the deep chill they needed to harvest grapes for the most prestigious part of their business – ice wine.

The sense of relief was palpable after temperatures finally dropped to minus 7 Celsius (19 Fahrenheit), allowing grapes to be picked for the sweet, expensive wine. Strict government regulations are in place saying the grapes for ice wine can't be picked until the mercury drops to that level.

"Thanks God! It's minus 13 (Celsius) today," Antonin Zatloukal said with relief at the Three Oaks vineyard at dawn on a recent frigid February day with a biting wind. The deputy director of the Znovin Znojmo winery was there to oversee the harvest of around 10 metric tons of Pinot Noir and Traminer grapes.

"We never picked the grapes so late before," Zatloukal said. "Previously, we always managed to do it before the year's end."

When the grapes are harvested, they are immediately taken for pressing. With the water inside them frozen, the result of the pressing is a highly concentrated juice, rich in sugar and acids, which then undergoes fermentation before it becomes ice wine.

Ice wine, which is believed to have been invented by accident in Germany in the late 18th century, is made in several European countries, including Switzerland, Germany, Austria and Slovenia, in addition to Canada and the U.S. It goes well with sweet desserts.

In the Czech Republic, a tradition of winemaking has been undergoing a considerable revival after decades of stagnation under communist rule, which ended in 1989. This winter, though, many people had already given up and harvested the grapes the grapes originally meant to be used for ice wine because of fears they could be damaged by warm and rainy weather, eaten by birds or simply stolen by thieves.

"They just thought it's better to be safe than sorry," said Jiri Sedlo, chairman of the Czech Association of Winemakers.

Zatloukal said the pickers had been ready three times at the vineyard this winter, but the temperature never dropped far enough.

"About 10 days ago, I almost gave up any hope," said Libor Kahoun, the director of a company that grows the grapes for Znovin. "But we decided to wait because the grapes were in very good condition."

"We expect a high quality vintage," Zatloukal said. "The grapes are healthy."

The pickers didn't seem to be bothered by the freezing conditions.

"I don't care much about the cold, we're used to every (type of) weather," one of them, Iva Rezacova, said. "This is not a punishment for us. We're dealing with the ice wine grapes," she said with a smile, putting the grapes carefully into a plastic box.

In less than two hours, the harvest was over and the grapes taken immediately for pressing.

The entire process was carefully watched by the Czech Agriculture and Food Inspection Authority.

"We have to confirm the origin of the grapes and check the weather condition," said Iva Libenska, an inspector from the city of Brno who arrived equipped with a thermometer.

Ice wine is relatively new in the Czech Republic where it has been produced since 1995 after a new wine law set rules for its making. It forms less than 1 percent of overall wine production in the country but has proved successful.

The 2009 Riesling by Znovin, also grown at the Three Oaks vineyard, won the double gold medal at the San Francisco International Wine Competition in 2010 among other international awards, evidence that local wine production is back on track after the collapse of communism.

A 200-milliliter (less than seven-ounce) bottle sold for 435 koruna ($22.50) at the Czech Wine Saloon, which offers the top 100 Czech wines of the year, in the southeastern town of Valtice near the border with Austria.

Marek Drobisz, head sommelier of the National Wine Center in Valtice said for him ice wine represents "the top of winemaking art. Only the best can make it."

He said it could accompany a sweet desert, but also "foie gras together with a small glass of ice wine makes a perfect gourmet experience."

Czech producers made a total of 16,400 liters (4,300 gallons) of ice wine in 2010, according to figures from the Czech Association of Winemakers. Up to 10 percent of that amount could have been exported, association secretary Martin Pucek said.

 

[Muxel]

Good article, truth seeker. Bavaria (now part of Germany) and Bohemia (now Czech Republic) are the ancient homebase of the Boii (a Celtic tribe, possibly a Celtic federation), from which they spread throughout Europe. English Bohemia > Latin Boiohaemum > "homeland of the Boii". So it's not surprising that Celtic cultural artifacts persist via names like "Three Oaks vineyard".

Also, grapes are obvious candidates for the "Blue Apples" mentioned in the transcripts. However, blackberries are red when unripe, blue-black when ripe (Red Apples > Blue Apples). Blackberries, like grapes, are iron-rich. Blackberries are of the same family (Rosaceae) as the hawthorn/thornapple (a very Celtic-y tree).

[quote author=_http://merganser.math.gvsu.edu/myth/trees.html]The vine (Old Irish "Muin", genus Vitis) is often replaced by the blackberry in Celtic mythology. In Ireland, blackberries cannot be gathered after October 31, and are abandoned to the pooka.[/quote][quote author=_http://mothermoonsmessage.blogspot.com/2010/08/celtic-tree-lore-month-of-vine.html]It is said that the Tuatha Dé Danann were the ones who first brought vine with them to Ireland. Although it is not necessarily considered a tree, any plant with woody stems was considered a tree by the Celts. Although most associated the vine with that of grapes, it can also refer to brambles/blackberry vines. Wine was and still is produced from blackberries as well as the grape.

At one time, picking and/or eating blackberries on or after October 10 was not allowed. This was due to a belief that they were poisonous because the devil had spit upon them. This belief came about prior to the calendar change in 1752. At this time October 10th was known as St Michael’s Day. It was St Michael who was said to have thrown the devil out of heaven and into a blackberry thicket.

The name of the vine comes from the Latin word "viere" meaning "to twist". This name describes how the vine grows. The vine grows in a spiral, which of course is the symbol of the Mother Goddess. The vine is also one of the sacred woods for a sabbat fire and represents joy.[/quote]

Note the taboo of not eating blackberries after Samhain (All Hallows' Eve). Are blackberries somehow symbolic of comets? After all, comets = "Rain of Iron".

Anthocyanins are what give blackberries and grapes their color. Anthocyanins give a blue color in alkalis, but give a red color in acids. Anthocyanins bonded to iron give a blue color.


Thanks Endymion for clearing up the "rooster" connection, which was really bothering me. :)
[quote author=_http://www.houseofnames.com/handl-family-crest]Spelling variations of this family name include: Handel, Haendel, Hendel, Handle, Handele, Handell, Haendle, Haendele, Haendell, Hendle, Hendele, Hendell, Haehndel, Hehndel, Handl, Haendler, Handler and many more.

First found in Silesia [...][/quote]
Silesia corresponds to present-day southwestern Poland, with some encroaching into northern Czech Republic and East Germany. Its capital was Wrocław. (Btw isn't Ark from Wrocław?)

 

[Kaigen]

It was interesting to read the tread and after I saw the site of the city Eisenstadt I saw the link "Mysteries in and around town"

http://www.eisenstadt.gv.at/en/tourism/welcome-to-eisenstadt/mysteries-in-and-around-town.html

Mysteries in and around Town

Kümmerling Rock, Family Mausoleum of the Esterházy Family, Germbuttn-Tree, Furrier Hollow (Kürschnergrube), Antoni Chapel,The Buried Treasure, Teufelskirnstein near St. Jörgen (St. Georgen)



Kümmerling Rock (Kleinhöflein)
Up on the way into the forest, to your right-hand side you will see the Kümmerling rock. Late at night, if you happen to be in one of the wine-inns of the village you may find the older citizens share stories of this rock - even to this day! According to the accounts, the rock bows before the most industrious vintner, the one who passes the rock first on his way to working the vineyards.
It appears that this story motivated many a not-so-eager vintner's son to rise early throughout the centuries.



Mausoleum of the Esterházy Family (Eisenstadt)
On 31 March 1682 Ursula Esterházy, the wife of Prince Paul I. Esterházy, passed away. According to tastes and customs of the time, she was laid out standing up. It remains a mystery why the corps of Ursula Esterházy never decayed: if was mummified. Due to the fact that over the decades and centuries a form of pilgrim-culture had developed, the family decided at the beginning of the 20th century to move the corps and to close the mausoleum.



Germbuttn-Tree (Kleinhöflein)
In the forests of Kleinhöflein, (past the settlement Pröstlweg), about a 20-minute walk into the woods, you get to the Germbuttn tree. Story has it that at the foot of this tree a smuggler once froze to death in his sleep. This smuggler smuggled yeast in a large trough from Lower Austria to Western Hungary. The smugglers at the time were scared stiff when they found out what had happened to their fellow and never used this smuggler's path again.



Furrier's Hollow (Kürschnergrube) (Eisenstadt)
If you head north through the Palace Park behind the castle, you will pass Johannes Grotto (follow the marked hiking paths), and about 1.5 hours on your way you will get to the Furrier's Hollow (Hornsteiner Hotter). The Furrier's Hollow is an old quarry with an extensive hollow that goes deep in the Leitha Mountains. In times of need it is said the inhabitants of the city would hide inside this hollow. The hollow got its name from the fine sand that can be found there and that the furriers got from there.



Antoni Chapel (Eisenstadt)
The Antoni ditch is a rift valley in the Leitha Mountains to the west of the Gloriette. It is said that young girls went there to pray to St. Anthony so he would see to it that they found a good husband. The chapel was built around 1700, in 1900 a neo-gothic niche was added.



The Buried Treasure (Eisenstadt)
Somewhere on Hauptstraße or in Pfarrgasse (depending on who you listen to), there could be found a treasure, buried during the ravages of the Ottoman occupation. Once a year at midnight, during full moon, the shadow cast by the parish church indicates the place the treasure is buried at.



Teufelskirnstein near St.Jörgen (St. Georgen)
Once upon a time a devil lived in the oak forest on Scheibenberg near St. Jörgen. This devil fell out of grace with a more powerful devil in hell and had been banned from hell, so he settled down near St. Jörgen, in said oak forest. During the day he led his animals to the meadow. The nights he spent underneath an immense rock, called Teufelskirnstein. Every evening he went up to the rock and called his grazing animals home - he yelled with a hoarse voice and lashed his whip loudly. It was the devil a great joy to make such hellish noise every evening and to send chills down the spines of the people in St. Jörgen. This hellish noise caused pets to be stubborn and stopped cows producing milk. The farmers wished this devil back to hell!
One day a stranger passed through the village on his way home from captivity. He was looking for a place where he could live in peace as eremite. The mayor offered him to stay in St. Jörgen. He had one favour to ask, though: the mayor told the stranger the story of the devil in the oak forest nearby. And he told the stranger that only a pious eremite could get rid of the devil. The old man gave the matter a thought and then gave the mayor his word to take care of the problem. The next day the stranger walked up to Scheibenberg and began building his hut. He had not been working long, when the devil passed by and nosily inquired what the old man was up to. The old man told the devil that the community had charged him with building the devil a home. He was extremely happy and jumped through the forest, making hellish noise again. No one in St. Jörgen could close an eye that night. The next couple of days the devil helped the old man build the dwelling. The priest and the people of the village, however, had consecrated a bell and had secretly brought it to the eremite's dwelling. In the evening the old eremite rang the bell for the first time. This was too much, even for this devil. He jumped up and ran off and had never been seen or heard of again. The farmers of St. Jörgen could now live in peace and quiet. Soon ferns grew out of the footprints the devil left when he ran. Nothing reminded the people of the devil any longer. The den of the eremite has long disappeared, too. A few moss-covered rocks remind of the place where it once stood.

 

[Eboard10]

As an aside (dunno if this is relevant):
[quote author=Cassiopaean transcripts]A: Trampled leaves of wrath.
Q: This is what Jacob gave to Esau?
A: Yes, and what is the "core" meaning there?
Q: I don't know. What is the core meaning?
A: Leaves are of the Tree of Apples, from whence we get the proverbial "grapes of wrath", the Blue Apples incarnate!
Q: Why are these leaves 'trampled'?
A: Removes chlorophyll.
Q: What is the significance of the chlorophyll?
A: When the chlorophyll dies, the autumnal equinox is at hand.

Lack of iron, chlorophyll dies. As for Blue Apples...Oxidized iron in our body makes our blood red; when the iron is deoxidized, our blood turns blue. Oxidized copper (Cu2+) is blue-green; if the 4D "bluebloods" had copper blood instead of iron, their blood would be blue. So, iron-blood = Red Apples / copper-blood = Blue Apples. Refer to Laura's take on "Blue Apples" here. Does an iron-deficient apple tree produce blue apples? Does a tree that uses copper (a "4D tree") produce blue apples? Maybe I'm being too literal here.
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Muxel, I don't find the idea of having copper blood instead of iron in 4D implausible but it always comes down to assumptions when trying to understand life in higher densities. Even in our 3D world there are species where blue blood is predominant. This occurs due to the hemocyanin, a protein containing two copper atoms, becomes the predominant molecule to transport oxygen in the blood. One such example can be found in 'horeseshoe crabs':

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_horseshoe_crab

The blood of horseshoe crabs (as well as that of most mollusks, including cephalopods and gastropods) contains the copper-containing protein hemocyanin at concentrations of about 50 g per liter. These creatures do not have hemoglobin (iron-containing protein), which is the basis of oxygen transport in vertebrates. Hemocyanin is colorless when deoxygenated and dark blue when oxygenated. The blood in the circulation of these creatures, which generally live in cold environments with low oxygen tensions, is grey-white to pale yellow, and it turns dark blue when exposed to the oxygen in the air, as seen when they bleed. Hemocyanin carries oxygen in extracellular fluid, which is in contrast to the intracellular oxygen transport in vertebrates by hemoglobin in red blood cells.

The blood of horseshoe crabs contains one type of blood cell, the amebocytes. These play an important role in the defense against pathogens. Amebocytes contain granules with a clotting factor known as coagulogen; this is released outside the cell when bacterial endotoxin is encountered. The resulting coagulation is thought to contain bacterial infections in the animal's semiclosed circulatory system.

It's also interesting to note as you mentioned earlier that members of the social elite were called 'bluebloods' which could very well be tied to the actual colour of the blood. The C's have mentioned that copper as a metal is more effective than iron in 4D and we know that copper is one of the most conductive metals:

August 20, 2001
Q: What group mined the copper in northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, like
in Isle
Royale?
A: Aryans.
Q: What did they want the copper for?
A: Weapons.
Q: Wouldn't iron make better weapons?
A: Not in 4th density.

August 23, 2001
Q: (L) That's bizarre. Moving along. What sort of 4th density weapons was
copper used for?
A: Mostly conduction of EM energies.

Going back to the Galle matter, I looked at the etymology of the word and found this:

_http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/galla#Latin

Galle
Etymology - from Latin galla
Noun - galla (genitive gallae); f
1. The oak apple, gall-nut.
2. A harsh, sour kind of wine.

The second meaning of the word ties in well with the grapes that are grown in the 'galle' region. More importantly though, galle can also signify oak apple which is the common term used to define the apple shaped gall that grows on oak trees. Of course, one of the galls commonly found on oak trees are acorns.

The C's have told to look into the White House and generally North America for clues to finding the artifacts:

May 2, 1998
Q: So, all these stories being made up about all these people and dramatic scenarios...
A: It is not the people but the message, the artifacts hold the key.
Q: What artifacts? Where are these artifacts?
A: France, Spain, Canary Islands and Morocco.
Q: What kind of artifacts are they? Things that still exist?
A: Yes.
Q: Is there any possibility that I am going to be able to find out about, or even actually FIND these artifacts?
A: Of course!!
Q: Does anyone else know about these artifacts?
A: Others are "on the trail."
Q: Is one of these artifacts the 'Virgin of Candelaria' that appeared in the Canary Islands?
A: Related.
Q: Okay, well, I haven’t learned anything about Morocco yet...
A: Best to get "on the trail of..."
Q: On the trail of what? Trail of the Lonesome Pine, Trail of the Assassin... the Assassini?
A: Look for major conjunctions.
Q: Any more clues you want to give on that? Are we supposed to actually physically go to these places?
A: What does "Casablanca" mean in Spanish?
Q: White House.
A: Yes...
Q: Related to the White House in Washington?
A: On the trail...

This is Halloween October 31, 1998
Q: Now, when you were saying that I needed to get a better 'handl'
on it and I found...
A: Have you overlooked North America? Check Atlas indices for
names to pique interest.
Q: What names?
A: Oh now, we cannot tell you that!
Q: The reason I have been focusing on Europe is because you said
that this thing we were supposed to find was in the Rhineland...
A: But there are always connections, both hither and yon. Tricky
those Rosicrucians, tricky. And what of Piri Reis?
Q: Well, I was already lost in a sea of puzzle pieces. Nothing like
making it harder!
A: Or easier. Template... Templar... Temporary. Temperature...
prime numbers, prime rib... Primary.

Although I didn't find anything related to the White House per se, I did find something interesting regarding another 'white house' not too far away from the Presidential workplace, Capitol Hill. Now I know that what I'm going to say might seem bizarre but if you look at Capitol Hill's dome it looks early similar in shape to an acorn! This design also appears in some of the most prominent buildings in Europe, namely St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, St. Paul's Cathedral in London and also St. Stephen's Basilica in Budapest.

One could say that these buildings are symbolic of the power that each of the respective countries/institutions exert in this new world order, Capitol Hill in Washington representing the military power, St Peter's Basilica in Rome representing the religious/spiritual power and St Paul's Basilica in the City of London as the Financial powerhouse of the Rosicrucians, all born from the same tree.

I also found that acorns and oak leaves are frequently used in heraldry and can be found in many Coats of arms, several from the regions in question:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Acorns_in_heraldry

Coincidentally, two of the most prominent Italian aristocratic families from the Renaissance, namely the Della Rovere and the Farnese families have their names rooted in the Oak tree.

Whether or not this is actually what the C's intended when they suggested the word White House, I cannot say as many assumptions are made here.

 

[Zee Ley]

It is funny how some threads could reveal themselves. I was curious about Cronus and Ouranos similarities and their possible relations to Cernunnos the Horned. And here wants happened.

Look into the root. Carnac, Cornwall, Corinthia, Carniola.
In some languages "crown" sounds like "koronah". Lets see the etymology of this word:

1)

crown (n.)
early 12c., "royal crown," from Anglo-Fr. coroune, from O.Fr. corone (13c., Mod.Fr. couronne), from L. corona "crown," originally "wreath, garland," related to Gk. korone "anything curved, kind of crown." Old English used corona, directly from Latin.

Extended to coins bearing the imprint of a crown (early 15c.), especially the British silver 5-shilling piece. Also monetary units in Iceland, Sweden (krona), Norway, Denmark (krone), and formerly in German Empire and Austria-Hungary (krone). Meaning "top of the skull" is from c.1300. Crown-prince is 1791, a translation of Ger. kronprinz.

top of the skull is vortex (or should i say vertex) and cranium:

2)

cranium (n.)
1540s, from M.L. cranium, from Gk. kranion "skull, upper part of the head," related to kara (poetic kras) "head," from PIE root *ker- "horn, head." Strictly, the bones which enclose the brain.

[6 ]
O.E. horn "horn of an animal," also "wind instrument" (originally made from animal horns), from P.Gmc. *hurnaz (cf. Ger. Horn, Du. horen, Goth. haurn), from PIE *ker- "uppermost part of the body, head, horn, top, summit" (cf. Gk. karnon, L. cornu, Skt. srngam "horn"). Reference to car horns is first recorded 1901. Figurative

Crown of the tree. Acorn and oak with its celtic symbolism:

3)

acorn (n.)
O.E. æcern "nut," common Germanic (cf. O.N. akarn, Du. aker, Low Ger. ecker "acorn," Ger. Ecker, Goth. akran "fruit"), originally the mast of any forest tree, and ultimately related (via notion of "fruit of the open or unenclosed land") to O.E. æcer "open land," Goth. akrs "field," O.Fr. aigrun "fruits and vegetables" (from a Germanic source); see acre.
The sense gradually restricted in Low German, Scandinavian, and English to the most important of the forest produce for feeding swine, the mast of the oak tree. Spelling changed 15c.-16c. by folk etymology association with oak (O.E. ac) and corn (1).

In russian tree is "derevoh". "Drevny" means old or even ancient. "As old as a tree" or "tree like". Back in english we can find a
crone:

4)

crone (n.)
late 14c., from Anglo-Fr. carogne, from O.N.Fr. carogne, term of abuse for a cantankerous or withered woman, lit. "carrion," from V.L. *caronia (see carrion).

and

5)

The crone is a stock character in folklore and fairy tale, an old woman. In some stories, she is disagreeable, malicious, or sinister in manner, often with magical or supernatural associations that can make her either helpful or obstructing. The Crone is also an archetypal figure, a Wise Woman. She is marginalized by her exclusion from the reproductive cycle,[1] and her proximity to death places her in contact with occult wisdom. As a character type, the crone shares characteristics with the hag.
The word "crone" is a less common synonym for "old woman," and is more likely to appear in reference to traditional narratives than in contemporary everyday usage.[2] The word became further specialized as the third aspect of the Triple Goddess popularized by Robert Graves and subsequently in some forms of neopaganism...

Last but not least - megalithic cairns

7)

Cairn is a term used for a man-made pile (or stack) of stones. It comes from the Scottish Gaelic: càrn (plural càirn). Cairns are found all over the world in uplands, on moorland, on mountaintops, near waterways and on sea cliffs, and also in barren desert and tundra areas. They vary in size from small stone markers to entire artificial hills, and in complexity from loose, conical rock piles to delicately balanced sculptures and elaborate feats of megalithic engineering. Cairns may be painted or otherwise decorated, e.g. for increased visibility or for religious reasons.

In modern times, cairns are often erected as landmarks, a use they have had since ancient times. Since prehistory, they have also been built as sepulchral monuments, or used for defensive, hunting, ceremonial, astronomical and other purposes.

(to be continued)



1) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=crown
2) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cranium
3) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=acorn&allowed_in_frame=0
4) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=crone
5) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crone
6) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=horn
7) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairn

 

[happyliza]

As an aside (dunno if this is relevant):
[quote author=Cassiopaean transcripts]A: Trampled leaves of wrath.
Q: This is what Jacob gave to Esau?
A: Yes, and what is the "core" meaning there?
Q: I don't know. What is the core meaning?
A: Leaves are of the Tree of Apples, from whence we get the proverbial "grapes of wrath", the Blue Apples incarnate!
Q: Why are these leaves 'trampled'?
A: Removes chlorophyll.
Q: What is the significance of the chlorophyll?
A: When the chlorophyll dies, the autumnal equinox is at hand.

Lack of iron, chlorophyll dies. As for Blue Apples...Oxidized iron in our body makes our blood red; when the iron is deoxidized, our blood turns blue. Oxidized copper (Cu2+) is blue-green; if the 4D "bluebloods" had copper blood instead of iron, their blood would be blue. So, iron-blood = Red Apples / copper-blood = Blue Apples. Refer to Laura's take on "Blue Apples" here. Does an iron-deficient apple tree produce blue apples? Does a tree that uses copper (a "4D tree") produce blue apples? Maybe I'm being too literal here.

Muxel, I don't find the idea of having copper blood instead of iron in 4D implausible but it always comes down to assumptions when trying to understand life in higher densities. Even in our 3D world there are species where blue blood is predominant. This occurs due to the hemocyanin, a protein containing two copper atoms, becomes the predominant molecule to transport oxygen in the blood. One such example can be found in 'horeseshoe crabs':

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_horseshoe_crab

The blood of horseshoe crabs (as well as that of most mollusks, including cephalopods and gastropods) contains the copper-containing protein hemocyanin at concentrations of about 50 g per liter. These creatures do not have hemoglobin (iron-containing protein), which is the basis of oxygen transport in vertebrates. Hemocyanin is colorless when deoxygenated and dark blue when oxygenated. The blood in the circulation of these creatures, which generally live in cold environments with low oxygen tensions, is grey-white to pale yellow, and it turns dark blue when exposed to the oxygen in the air, as seen when they bleed. Hemocyanin carries oxygen in extracellular fluid, which is in contrast to the intracellular oxygen transport in vertebrates by hemoglobin in red blood cells.

The blood of horseshoe crabs contains one type of blood cell, the amebocytes. These play an important role in the defense against pathogens. Amebocytes contain granules with a clotting factor known as coagulogen; this is released outside the cell when bacterial endotoxin is encountered. The resulting coagulation is thought to contain bacterial infections in the animal's semiclosed circulatory system.

It's also interesting to note as you mentioned earlier that members of the social elite were called 'bluebloods' which could very well be tied to the actual colour of the blood. The C's have mentioned that copper as a metal is more effective than iron in 4D and we know that copper is one of the most conductive metals:

August 20, 2001
Q: What group mined the copper in northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, like
in Isle
Royale?
A: Aryans.
Q: What did they want the copper for?
A: Weapons.
Q: Wouldn't iron make better weapons?
A: Not in 4th density.

August 23, 2001
Q: (L) That's bizarre. Moving along. What sort of 4th density weapons was
copper used for?
A: Mostly conduction of EM energies.

Going back to the Galle matter, I looked at the etymology of the word and found this:

_http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/galla#Latin

Galle
Etymology - from Latin galla
Noun - galla (genitive gallae); f
1. The oak apple, gall-nut.
2. A harsh, sour kind of wine.

The second meaning of the word ties in well with the grapes that are grown in the 'galle' region. More importantly though, galle can also signify oak apple which is the common term used to define the apple shaped gall that grows on oak trees. Of course, one of the galls commonly found on oak trees are acorns.

The C's have told to look into the White House and generally North America for clues to finding the artifacts:

May 2, 1998
Q: So, all these stories being made up about all these people and dramatic scenarios...
A: It is not the people but the message, the artifacts hold the key.
Q: What artifacts? Where are these artifacts?
A: France, Spain, Canary Islands and Morocco.
Q: What kind of artifacts are they? Things that still exist?
A: Yes.
Q: Is there any possibility that I am going to be able to find out about, or even actually FIND these artifacts?
A: Of course!!
Q: Does anyone else know about these artifacts?
A: Others are "on the trail."
Q: Is one of these artifacts the 'Virgin of Candelaria' that appeared in the Canary Islands?
A: Related.
Q: Okay, well, I haven’t learned anything about Morocco yet...
A: Best to get "on the trail of..."
Q: On the trail of what? Trail of the Lonesome Pine, Trail of the Assassin... the Assassini?
A: Look for major conjunctions.
Q: Any more clues you want to give on that? Are we supposed to actually physically go to these places?
A: What does "Casablanca" mean in Spanish?
Q: White House.
A: Yes...
Q: Related to the White House in Washington?
A: On the trail...

This is Halloween October 31, 1998
Q: Now, when you were saying that I needed to get a better 'handl'
on it and I found...
A: Have you overlooked North America? Check Atlas indices for
names to pique interest.
Q: What names?
A: Oh now, we cannot tell you that!
Q: The reason I have been focusing on Europe is because you said
that this thing we were supposed to find was in the Rhineland...
A: But there are always connections, both hither and yon. Tricky
those Rosicrucians, tricky. And what of Piri Reis?
Q: Well, I was already lost in a sea of puzzle pieces. Nothing like
making it harder!
A: Or easier. Template... Templar... Temporary. Temperature...
prime numbers, prime rib... Primary.

Although I didn't find anything related to the White House per se, I did find something interesting regarding another 'white house' not too far away from the Presidential workplace, Capitol Hill. Now I know that what I'm going to say might seem bizarre but if you look at Capitol Hill's dome it looks early similar in shape to an acorn! This design also appears in some of the most prominent buildings in Europe, namely St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, St. Paul's Cathedral in London and also St. Stephen's Basilica in Budapest.

One could say that these buildings are symbolic of the power that each of the respective countries/institutions exert in this new world order, Capitol Hill in Washington representing the military power, St Peter's Basilica in Rome representing the religious/spiritual power and St Paul's Basilica in the City of London as the Financial powerhouse of the Rosicrucians, all born from the same tree.

I also found that acorns and oak leaves are frequently used in heraldry and can be found in many Coats of arms, several from the regions in question:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Acorns_in_heraldry

Coincidentally, two of the most prominent Italian aristocratic families from the Renaissance, namely the Della Rovere and the Farnese families have their names rooted in the Oak tree.

Whether or not this is actually what the C's intended when they suggested the word White House, I cannot say as many assumptions are made here.
[/quote]


FWIW I remember reading a while ago that the acorn that symbolically appears in many places represents the pineal gland.

 

[Zee Ley]

(to be continued)

We have something related with a

Head: cranium, skull, horns, garland, wreath and crown;
Acorn and oak;
Age and wisdom;
Stones;
Meat and flesh [1] ;

Celebrations and astronomical cycles [2, 3, 4] :

The Kronia was an Athenian festival held in honor of Cronus (Greek Kronos) on the 12th day of Hekatombaion, the first month of the Attic calendar and roughly equivalent to last part of July and first part of August. The festival was also celebrated in parts of Ionia, and in these places the month was known as Kronion after the festival.[1]
The Roman playwright Accius says that to celebrate the Kronia, "In nearly all fields and towns they happily feast upon banquets, and everyone waits upon his own servants."[2] Slaves and the free, rich and poor, all dined together and played games such as dice (kyboi), knucklebones (astragaloi), and the board game pessoi. The freedom from work and social egalitarianism enjoyed on the day represented the conditions of the mythical Golden Age, when Cronus still ruled the world. In the Golden Age, the earth had spontaneously supported human life, and since labor was unneeded, slavery had not existed: "it was a period of thorough harmony in which hierarchical, exploitative, and predatory relationships were nonexistent."[3] Accius describes the Kronia in order to explain its perceived influence on the Roman Saturnalia.[4]
The Kronia was a time for social restraints to be temporarily forgotten. Slaves were released from their duties, and participated in the festivities alongside the slave-owners. Slaves were “permitted to run riot through the city, shouting and making a noise.”[5] It is usually regarded as a celebration of the harvest.[6] Other than the Kronia, there is only limited evidence of religious devotion to Cronus.[7]

Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honor of the deity Saturn originally held on December 17 and later expanded with festivities through December 23. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn in the Roman Forum and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for their slaves.[1] The poet Catullus called it "the best of days."[2]
In Roman mythology, Saturn was an agricultural deity who reigned over the world in the Golden Age, when humans enjoyed the spontaneous bounty of the earth without labor in a state of social egalitarianism. The revelries of Saturnalia were supposed to reflect the conditions of the lost mythical age, not all of them desirable. The Greek equivalent was the Kronia.[3]
Although probably the best-known Roman holiday, Saturnalia as a whole is not described from beginning to end in any single ancient source. Modern understanding of the festival is pieced together from several accounts dealing with various aspects.[4] The Saturnalia was the dramatic setting of the multivolume work of that name by Macrobius, a Latin writer from late antiquity who is the major source for the holiday. In one of the interpretations in Macrobius's work, Saturnalia is a festival of light leading to the winter solstice, with the abundant presence of candles symbolizing the quest for knowledge and truth.[5] The renewal of light and the coming of the new year was celebrated in the later Roman Empire at the Dies Natalis of Sol Invictus, the "Birthday of the Unconquerable Sun," on December 25.[6]
The popularity of Saturnalia continued into the 3rd and 4th centuries AD, and as the Roman Empire came under Christian rule, some of its customs may have influenced the seasonal celebrations surrounding Christmas and the New Year.[7]

carnival (n.)
1540s, "time of merrymaking before Lent," from Fr. carnaval, from It. carnevale "Shrove Tuesday," from older It. forms like Milanese *carnelevale, O.Pisan carnelevare "to remove meat," lit. "raising flesh," from L. caro "flesh" (see carnage) + levare "lighten, raise;" folk etymology is from M.L. carne vale " 'flesh, farewell.' " Meaning "a circus or fair" is attested by 1931 in North America.

One more meaning I would like to add [5] :

crane (n.)
O.E. cran "large wading bird," common Germanic (cf. O.S. krano, O.H.G. krano, Ger. Kranich, and, with unexplained change of consonant, O.N. trani), from PIE *gere- (cf. Gk. geranos, L. grus, Welsh garan, Lith. garnys "heron, stork"), perhaps echoic of its cry. Metaphoric use for "machine with a long arm" is first attested late 13c. (a sense also in equivalent words in German and Greek).

How could this word fit in the list above. Undoubtedly with an strong enough crane you can lift any stone. But what if a crane whom we know as a bird has a mysterious connection with a karns?

That’s were a real fun begins…



1) _http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carne
2) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronia
3) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
4) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=carnival
5) _http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=crane&allowed_in_frame=0

 

[Zee Ley]

1.

In Asian culture, a white crane can travel to the heavens and is sometimes called the "heavenly" or "blessed" Crane. In China, cranes flew the gods to the "Isle of the Immortals", the legendary home of the eight immortals. A Crane's eggs were also used in magic potions to grant eternal life upon its drinkers.

Cranes are often regarded as a messenger of the gods. In ancient Egypt, legend says that a two-headed crane was once seen flying over the Nile to announce the start of a joyful and prosperous new season for the people below.

Cranes are masters at killing snakes, thus, in Christian symbolism, they were seen as natural enemies of Satan.

Due to their long migration season, they became a symbol of endurance and their wings were once used as talismans to aide weary travelers on their journey. The cranes return each spring was seen as a symbol of Christ's resurrection.

In Roman mythology, the crane was sacred to their mother goddess, Demeter, who was said to renew the earth each spring, when her daughter, Persephone, was released from the underworld.

2.

The cranes' beauty and their spectacular mating dances have made them highly symbolic birds in many cultures with records dating back to ancient times. Crane mythology is widely spread and can be found in areas such as the Aegean, South Arabia, China, Korea, Japan and in the Native American cultures of North America. In northern Hokkaidō, the women of the Ainu people performed a crane dance that was captured in 1908 in a photograph by Arnold Genthe. In Korea, a crane dance has been performed in the courtyard of the Tongdosa Temple since the Silla Dynasty (646 CE).

[…]

The Greek for crane is Γερανος (Geranos), which gives us the Cranesbill, or hardy geranium. The crane was a bird of omen. In the tale of Ibycus and the cranes, a thief attacked Ibycus (a poet of the 6th century BCE) and left him for dead. Ibycus called to a flock of passing cranes, who followed the attacker to a theater and hovered over him until, stricken with guilt, he confessed to the crime.
Pliny the Elder wrote that cranes would appoint one of their number to stand guard while they slept. The sentry would hold a stone in its claw, so that if it fell asleep it would drop the stone and waken.
Aristotle describes the migration of cranes in the History of Animals,[6] adding an account of their fights with Pygmies as they wintered near the source of the Nile. He describes as untruthful an account that the crane carries a touchstone inside it that can be used to test for gold when vomited up. (This second story is not altogether implausible, as cranes might ingest appropriate gizzard stones in one locality and regurgitate them in a region where such stone is otherwise scarce.)

1) _http://www.squidoo.com/divine-birds
2) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(bird)

 

[Zee Ley]

1.

In Mecca, in pre-Islamic South Arabia, Allāt, Uzza, and Manah were believed to be the three chief goddesses of Mecca, they were called the "three exalted cranes" (gharaniq, an obscure word on which 'crane' is the usual gloss). See The Satanic Verses for the best-known story regarding these three goddesses.

2.

As he was reciting Sūra an-Najm,[3] considered a revelation by the angel Gabriel, Satan tempted him to utter the following lines after verses 19 and 20:

Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá
and Manāt, the third, the other?
These are the exalted gharāniq, whose intercession is hoped for.​

Allāt, al-'Uzzā and Manāt were three goddesses worshipped by the Meccans. Discerning the meaning of "gharāniq" is difficult, as it is a hapax legomenon (i.e. only used once in the text). Commentators wrote that it meant the cranes. The Arabic word does generally mean a "crane" - appearing in the singular as ghirnīq, ghurnūq, ghirnawq and ghurnayq, and the word has cousin forms in other words for birds, including "raven, crow" and "eagle". [4]

3.

Allāt or al-Lāt (Arabic: اللات‎) was a Pre-Islamic Arabian goddess who was one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca. She is mentioned in the Qur'an (Sura 53:19), which indicates that pre-Islamic Arabs considered her as one of the daughters of Allah along with Manāt and al-‘Uzzá.

Especially in older sources, Allat is an alternative name of the Mesopotamian goddess of the underworld,[5][6] now usually known as Ereshkigal. She was reportedly also venerated in Carthage under the name Allatu.[7]
The goddess occurs in early Safaitic graffiti (Safaitic han-'Ilāt "the Goddess") and the Nabataeans of Petra and the people of Hatra also worshipped her, equating her with the Greek Athena and Tyche and the Roman Minerva. She is frequently called "the Great Goddess" in Greek in multi-lingual inscriptions.[8] According to Wellhausen, the Nabataeans believed al-Lāt was the mother of Hubal (and hence the mother-in-law of Manāt).
The Greek historian Herodotus, writing in the 5th century BC, considered her the equivalent of Aphrodite:

The Assyrians call Aphrodite Mylitta, the Arabians Alilat, and the Persians Mitra. In addition that deity is associated with the Indian deity Mitra (Vedic). The persian and Indian deity were developed from the proto-indo-iranian deity known as *mitra.[9]​

According to Herodotus, the ancient Arabians believed in only two gods:

They believe in no other gods except Dionysus and the Heavenly Aphrodite; and they say that they wear their hair as Dionysus does his, cutting it round the head and shaving the temples. They call Dionysus, Orotalt; and Aphrodite, Alilat.[10]​

In the Qur'an, she is mentioned along with al-‘Uzzá and Manāt in Sura 53:19–23. The tribe of ʿād of Iram of the Pillars is also mentioned in Sura 89:5–8, and archaeological evidence from Iram shows copious inscriptions devoted to her for the protection of a tribe by that name.[11]
Al-lāt is also explicitly attested from early Islamic records discussing the pre-Islamic period. According to the Book of Idols (Kitāb al-ʾAṣnām) by Hishām ibn al-Kalbi, the pre-Islamic Arabs believed Al-lāt resided in the Kaʿbah and also had an idol inside the sanctuary

4.

Al-Uzzá (Arabic: العزى‎ al-ʻUzzá [al ʕuzzaː]) was one of the three chief goddesses of Arabian religion in pre-Islamic times and was worshiped as one of the daughters of Allah by the pre-Islamic Arabs along with Allāt and Manāt. Al-‘Uzzá was also worshipped by the Nabataeans, who equated her with the Greek goddess Aphrodite Ourania (Roman Venus Caelestis). A stone cube at aṭ-Ṭā’if (near Mecca) was held sacred as part of her cult.

The first known mention of al-‘Uzzá is from the inscriptions at Dedan, the capital of the Lihyanite Kingdom, in the fourth or third century BC. She had been adopted alongside Dushara as the presiding goddess at Petra, the Nabataen capital, where she assimilated with Isis, Tyche, and Aphrodite attributes and superseded her sisters.[6] During the 5th century Christianity became the prominent religion of the region following conquest by Barsauma.[7]

Inscriptions related to al-‘Uzzá among the Nabataeans at Petra have been interpreted to associate al-‘Uzzá with the planet Venus.

According to the Book of Idols (Kitāb al-Aṣnām) by Hishām ibn al-Kalbī (N.A. Faris 1952, pp. 16–23)​

Over her [an Arab] built a house called Buss in which the people used to receive oracular communications.

5.

Manāt (Arabic: مناة‎; also transliterated as manāh) was one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca.[1] The pre-Islamic Arabs believed Manāt to be the goddess of fate. She was known by the cognate name Manawat to the Nabataeans of Petra, who equated her with the Graeco-Roman goddess Nemesis and she was considered the wife of Hubal.[2]

The Book of Idols describes her:

The most ancient of all these idols was Manāt. The Arabs used to name [their children] 'Abd-Manāt and Zayd-Manāt. Manāt was erected on the seashore in the vicinity of al-Mushallal in Qudayd, between Medina and Mecca. All the Arabs used to venerate her and sacrifice before her. The Aws and the Khazraj, as well as the inhabitants of Medina and Mecca and their vicinities, used to venerate Manāt, sacrifice before her, and bring unto her their offerings... The Aws and the Khazraj, as well as those Arabs among the people of Yathrib and other places who took to their way of life, were wont to go on pilgrimage and observe the vigil at all the appointed places, but not shave their heads. At the end of the pilgrimage, however, when they were about to return home, they would set out to the place where Manāt stood, shave their heads, and stay there a while. They did not consider their pilgrimage completed until they visited Manāt.
—Book of Idols, pp 12–14[5]​

1) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(bird)
2) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses
3) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-l%C4%81t
4) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzza
5) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manah

 

[anart]

Hi Zee - could you please concisely explain your point?

 

[Zee Ley]

Hello anart.
I think there is some core meaning behind this CRN root business.