Session 23 August 2025

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

As to pentatonic scales; they occur in almost every styles of music. There are literally 231 pentatonic scales. When I compose I utilize anywhere from one to perhaps five different pentatonic scales within the music.

I've always thought playing major pentatonic scale fifth above a Maj7 chord sounds beautiful, calming and meditative, so I improvised little bit with this idea a while ago when I was thinking about pentatonic scales.

I still had the recording so I'll attach it here (recorded with my phone but the idea hopefully conveys). After reading this discussion I thought if you (or anyone else) might want to try out the idea, if it's any beneficial (i.e using pentatonic scale in a meditative, relaxing manner, preferably improvising).

So in here I took major chord (started with Fmaj) and improvised using pentatonic scale always starting fifth above (for example C pentatonic over Fmaj chord), which gives intervals: 5, 6, 7, 9, 3 (with minor chords need to use a minor pentatonic fifth above, same principle, and there's other ways to use them than this).

The chords used here were something like this (I always moved the scale with the chord):

Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Ebmaj7, Bbmaj7,
Fmaj7 Cmaj7, Gmaj7, Dmaj7,
Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Abmaj7, Gm7,
Gbmaj7 Fsus4, F

But it can be anything and more simpler (like few chords repeating), this is just what I happened to record. It's also a neat way to bring chord extensions with pentatonic scale, I think!

 

[iamthatis]

Maybe, instead of composing and playing music with instruments, @Musicinventor could try singing, i.e. use his own body as a resonance chamber to shift the frequencies of his soul. This would quite literally "take his breath away" and would be a "turn in another direction" with regards to how his music is produced.

The C's have long emphasized the musical aspect of words.

There's also a certain way of singing recommended by the C's to attune to higher energies. There is a certain way of doing it with proper intent and preparation that can be beneficial, even hyperdimensional - I suppose one could call it sacred music:

July 4, 2020:

(Artemis) Do you want to ask about the phenomenon you heard when we were charging the crystals?

(L) Oh yeah! We finished charging a whole new batch of crystals. When we started out, we were all in a very bad voice. Andromeda and I were still recovering from all that virus business that affected our lungs and throats, and it took us a number of days to even start to be able to breathe properly and sound normal. But then at certain points once we had gotten our mojo back, there were times when we were singing and I would hear other voices joining in. Was I actually hearing other voices?

A: Yes

Q: (L) What were those voices?

A: 4D STO support for charging magnification.

Q: (L) Were those voices that I was hearing coming from our throats, or from the air around us?

A: Your voices enhanced.

Q: (Chu) That’s like what they said about your voice when you were doing EE, remember?

(L) What about it?

(Chu) That your voice carried more than what could be heard.

(L) Well, this went to the point that we could actually hear it.

(Andromeda) And I could feel it. Is this the same thing that was causing the sensation I was having of vibration like we were singing inside a bell?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) I could physically feel it. It was like a vibration almost. You could feel an echo.

(Chu) And you didn’t record any?

(L) No, we did it live every time.

(Joe) Maybe you should ask if you can get that kind of help for karaoke? (laughter)

(Artemis) I’m sure they’ve helped with karaoke sometimes. Have you helped with karaoke sometimes?

A: If you would go about karaoke in the proper manner, you would indeed have connections forming and “celestial” voices would join in!!

Q: (Joe) What is the proper manner?

A: Right music, warm up, leave aside ego and sing for unification and simple beauty and emotion.

Q: (Andromeda) Would we even need the karaoke machine? Well, I suppose it’s helpful. We could just sing hymns together…

(L) So we need to more carefully select songs and begin with warm-up songs.

(Chu) And songs that EVERYBODY can sing.

(L) Yeah, songs that people can all sing together.

(Artemis) Would you like to suggest to us songs that we can sing?

A: You all can sort that out.

Q: (Ark) There are too many songs.

A: Simple melodies.

Q: (Joe) I think we should stop calling it karaoke and start calling it choir practice. Or singing practice.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Karaoke carries with it the wrong connotation. Standing in a bar, cranking out a crappy 80’s hit or something… It should be more like a choir practice. Singing practice.

(Andromeda) Everybody in together, the songs should have simple melodies, and they should be about simple beauty and emotion.

(Chu) “Country Roads”. Everybody sings that one.

(Andromeda) “Amazing Grace”.

(Joe) Any song where everyone can sing in harmony.

(L) Alright.

(Andromeda) We can pick some.

(Ark) And after all this time, we should have a standard set of songs. And then we can add, but there should be… I mean, we should not make experiments with songs that are unlikely to be appropriate.

(Joe) Well, we already know some songs that fit.

(L) Songs that people like, that they can all sing… And I think that we know of enough of them so that you don’t have to repeat the same songs every time we do it.

(Joe) We did one of those that they do in the Crystal Meetings… We did it pretty well last time. Which one was it? “Will the Circle be Unbroken”.

(Andromeda) Yeah. And “Wayfaring Stranger”.

(L) Yeah, that one’s good.

(Joe) And everyone can just be aware when they’re singing to try to help others and try to make a unified sound.

(L) So, we need to have another karaoke session soon and put this into practice. And at least a day in advance, we need to select the right songs and not try to go for exotic or non-melodic hardcore rock-n-roll or whatever…

(Joe) It’s Singing Practice!

(Artemis) Joe’s trying to hammer in that it’s NOT karaoke.

(Joe) We can keep karaoke. That can be a separate type of event. But this can be called Singing Practice.

(L) Alright, we’ll do that. Any other questions?

The sense I got from studying Native American religious understandings of music is that the right songs need to be sung in the right way at the right time. One way it was described to me was that the singer needs to carry the right frequency, or be in the right 'key'. This word 'key' is understood to not just be a regular musical term, but also references a sort of frequency 'key' that opens up a 'door' or a hyperdimensional portal for blessings to come through. Kinda resonates with what was mentioned in the above session.

Anyways, all the best with your healing, @Musicinventor, hope this helps!