Session 23 August 2025

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

As to pentatonic scales; they occur in almost every styles of music. There are literally 231 pentatonic scales. When I compose I utilize anywhere from one to perhaps five different pentatonic scales within the music.

I've always thought playing major pentatonic scale fifth above a Maj7 chord sounds beautiful, calming and meditative, so I improvised little bit with this idea a while ago when I was thinking about pentatonic scales.

I still had the recording so I'll attach it here (recorded with my phone but the idea hopefully conveys). After reading this discussion I thought if you (or anyone else) might want to try out the idea, if it's any beneficial (i.e using pentatonic scale in a meditative, relaxing manner, preferably improvising).

So in here I took major chord (started with Fmaj) and improvised using pentatonic scale always starting fifth above (for example C pentatonic over Fmaj chord), which gives intervals: 5, 6, 7, 9, 3 (with minor chords need to use a minor pentatonic fifth above, same principle, and there's other ways to use them than this).

The chords used here were something like this (I always moved the scale with the chord):

Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Ebmaj7, Bbmaj7,
Fmaj7 Cmaj7, Gmaj7, Dmaj7,
Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Abmaj7, Gm7,
Gbmaj7 Fsus4, F

But it can be anything and more simpler (like few chords repeating), this is just what I happened to record. It's also a neat way to bring chord extensions with pentatonic scale, I think!

 

[iamthatis]

Maybe, instead of composing and playing music with instruments, @Musicinventor could try singing, i.e. use his own body as a resonance chamber to shift the frequencies of his soul. This would quite literally "take his breath away" and would be a "turn in another direction" with regards to how his music is produced.

The C's have long emphasized the musical aspect of words.

There's also a certain way of singing recommended by the C's to attune to higher energies. There is a certain way of doing it with proper intent and preparation that can be beneficial, even hyperdimensional - I suppose one could call it sacred music:

July 4, 2020:

(Artemis) Do you want to ask about the phenomenon you heard when we were charging the crystals?

(L) Oh yeah! We finished charging a whole new batch of crystals. When we started out, we were all in a very bad voice. Andromeda and I were still recovering from all that virus business that affected our lungs and throats, and it took us a number of days to even start to be able to breathe properly and sound normal. But then at certain points once we had gotten our mojo back, there were times when we were singing and I would hear other voices joining in. Was I actually hearing other voices?

A: Yes

Q: (L) What were those voices?

A: 4D STO support for charging magnification.

Q: (L) Were those voices that I was hearing coming from our throats, or from the air around us?

A: Your voices enhanced.

Q: (Chu) That’s like what they said about your voice when you were doing EE, remember?

(L) What about it?

(Chu) That your voice carried more than what could be heard.

(L) Well, this went to the point that we could actually hear it.

(Andromeda) And I could feel it. Is this the same thing that was causing the sensation I was having of vibration like we were singing inside a bell?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) I could physically feel it. It was like a vibration almost. You could feel an echo.

(Chu) And you didn’t record any?

(L) No, we did it live every time.

(Joe) Maybe you should ask if you can get that kind of help for karaoke? (laughter)

(Artemis) I’m sure they’ve helped with karaoke sometimes. Have you helped with karaoke sometimes?

A: If you would go about karaoke in the proper manner, you would indeed have connections forming and “celestial” voices would join in!!

Q: (Joe) What is the proper manner?

A: Right music, warm up, leave aside ego and sing for unification and simple beauty and emotion.

Q: (Andromeda) Would we even need the karaoke machine? Well, I suppose it’s helpful. We could just sing hymns together…

(L) So we need to more carefully select songs and begin with warm-up songs.

(Chu) And songs that EVERYBODY can sing.

(L) Yeah, songs that people can all sing together.

(Artemis) Would you like to suggest to us songs that we can sing?

A: You all can sort that out.

Q: (Ark) There are too many songs.

A: Simple melodies.

Q: (Joe) I think we should stop calling it karaoke and start calling it choir practice. Or singing practice.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Karaoke carries with it the wrong connotation. Standing in a bar, cranking out a crappy 80’s hit or something… It should be more like a choir practice. Singing practice.

(Andromeda) Everybody in together, the songs should have simple melodies, and they should be about simple beauty and emotion.

(Chu) “Country Roads”. Everybody sings that one.

(Andromeda) “Amazing Grace”.

(Joe) Any song where everyone can sing in harmony.

(L) Alright.

(Andromeda) We can pick some.

(Ark) And after all this time, we should have a standard set of songs. And then we can add, but there should be… I mean, we should not make experiments with songs that are unlikely to be appropriate.

(Joe) Well, we already know some songs that fit.

(L) Songs that people like, that they can all sing… And I think that we know of enough of them so that you don’t have to repeat the same songs every time we do it.

(Joe) We did one of those that they do in the Crystal Meetings… We did it pretty well last time. Which one was it? “Will the Circle be Unbroken”.

(Andromeda) Yeah. And “Wayfaring Stranger”.

(L) Yeah, that one’s good.

(Joe) And everyone can just be aware when they’re singing to try to help others and try to make a unified sound.

(L) So, we need to have another karaoke session soon and put this into practice. And at least a day in advance, we need to select the right songs and not try to go for exotic or non-melodic hardcore rock-n-roll or whatever…

(Joe) It’s Singing Practice!

(Artemis) Joe’s trying to hammer in that it’s NOT karaoke.

(Joe) We can keep karaoke. That can be a separate type of event. But this can be called Singing Practice.

(L) Alright, we’ll do that. Any other questions?

The sense I got from studying Native American religious understandings of music is that the right songs need to be sung in the right way at the right time. One way it was described to me was that the singer needs to carry the right frequency, or be in the right 'key'. This word 'key' is understood to not just be a regular musical term, but also references a sort of frequency 'key' that opens up a 'door' or a hyperdimensional portal for blessings to come through. Kinda resonates with what was mentioned in the above session.

Anyways, all the best with your healing, @Musicinventor, hope this helps!

 

[Don Cesar]

Thanks but that’s what the website is for…

Would it be possible to share the link of your site? Thanks.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

Would it be possible to share the link of your site? Thanks.

It's in the signature (last line) of each post by Musicinventor.

 

[Jones]

Hale Bop anyone?

Had me think if the Hale Bop Prophecy and I think it may pertain to this even more. Celestial events have a lasting effect 1997 was kind of a turning point. Seems like the last time creativity in culture and in music was really thriving. Groundhog Day effects seem to be ever increasing since then. Maybe the Hale Bop Prophecy was a little early and mistook it for that object.

Just some thoughts.

Hello @John Michael James.
I noticed that you haven't yet written an introduction in the Newbies forum. If you'd like to share a bit about yourself and how you found your way to the forum, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks to everyone involved for sharing this session

 

[Don Cesar]

It's in the signature (last line) of each post by Musicinventor.

Thank you @Olivierlejardinier, but excuse my computer ignorance I do not understand what I have to do or click in "the signature in the last line of each post" ... I can't "see" what it is...

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

Thank you @Olivierlejardinier, but excuse my computer ignorance I do not understand what I have to do or click in "the signature in the last line of each post" ... I can't "see" what it is...

Here's a copy of the signature, just click on the last blue highlighted line to open the link:

Love of consciousness evokes the same in response. Love of feeling evokes the opposite. Love of body depends only on type and polarity.
Hope of consciousness is strength. Hope of feeling is slavery. Hope of body is disease.
Faith of consciousness is freedom. Faith of feeling is weakness. Faith of the body is stupidity.

There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand.

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.

What does it take to change the essence of a man?

Redpil Studio – Music for Acoustic and Electric Instruments – Original Classical/Jazz/Rock, Solo and Ensemble works composed by Michael Karwowski

 

[Evan]

I've always thought playing major pentatonic scale fifth above a Maj7 chord sounds beautiful, calming and meditative, so I improvised little bit with this idea a while ago when I was thinking about pentatonic scales.

I still had the recording so I'll attach it here (recorded with my phone but the idea hopefully conveys). After reading this discussion I thought if you (or anyone else) might want to try out the idea, if it's any beneficial (i.e using pentatonic scale in a meditative, relaxing manner, preferably improvising).

So in here I took major chord (started with Fmaj) and improvised using pentatonic scale always starting fifth above (for example C pentatonic over Fmaj chord), which gives intervals: 5, 6, 7, 9, 3 (with minor chords need to use a minor pentatonic fifth above, same principle, and there's other ways to use them than this).

The chords used here were something like this (I always moved the scale with the chord):

Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Ebmaj7, Bbmaj7,
Fmaj7 Cmaj7, Gmaj7, Dmaj7,
Fmaj7, Cmaj7, Abmaj7, Gm7,
Gbmaj7 Fsus4, F

But it can be anything and more simpler (like few chords repeating), this is just what I happened to record. It's also a neat way to bring chord extensions with pentatonic scale, I think!

Maj7 is my personal favorite! Led Zeppelin’s Ten Years Gone and Grateful Dead’s Eyes of the World. The Fmaj7 makes the Dead’s Terrapin Station possibly my favorite song ever. Especially with Hunter’s beautiful lyrics: “Inspiration move me brightly. Light the song with sense and color. Hold away despair. From the northwest corner of brand new crescent moon. The spiral light of Venus rising first and shining best. More than this I cannot as. Faced with mysteries dark and vast. Some rise. Some fall. Some climb to get to Terrapin.”

Sorry, got carried away for a moment..

But hey, I’ve literally got the terrapin from the album cover tattooed on my arm!

 

[nicoleblalonde]

Thank you for another great session!

I really like this book (Metaphysical Anatomy) as a resource for helping me figure out the deeper emotional issues behind any symptoms I may be feeling. I took a few snapshots from the cancer and lung cancer section:
@Musicinventor

 

[seek10]

Thank you Laura and team for the fascinating session.

(Ryan) What consciousness or intelligence was working through the crystals to cause this destruction?

A: STS elemental. Something like an egregore.

This is interesting. Searching forum for 'elemental' gave quite a few descriptions.

Post in thread 'Question regarding the identity of a Blue Man'

Sep 27, 2011

I'm sorry, can I ask what exactly are you referring to by "Elemental"? :)

Something similar to flora and fauna in other dimensions/densities. They can also be somewhat disturbing if they are larger and able to mimic human shapes. In some cases, they can be demonic energies that are not quite "grown" enough, or strong enough, to maintain a discrete reality. They can come into and go out of being rather quickly, like smoke from a fire.

• Laura

Something similar to flora and fauna in other dimensions/densities. They can also be somewhat disturbing if they are larger and able to mimic human shapes. In some cases, they can be demonic energies that are not quite "grown" enough, or strong enough, to maintain a discrete reality. They can come into and go out of being rather quickly, like smoke from a fire.

Thread 'Spirit Release Therapy - A Retrospective'

Jan 20, 2019

I've recently been made aware that there are some people associated with this forum who have involved themselves in some sort of SRT, possibly combining it with Reiki, and also claiming to identify "alternate personalities" within themselves, AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder. This is a bit alarming for a number of reasons. Let me try to list some of my observations and experiences and conclusions which I hope will act as a "word to the wise."

Remember, a smart man learns from his mistakes, a genius learns from the mistakes of others. In the field called SRT, there wasn't a lot of...

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The take-home message I finally understood was that, in a sense, SRT is a violation of free will. If a person gets "attached" it is usually because there is a frequency match between the individual - or some part of the individual - and the attaching entity, whether "dead dude" or elemental or demonic. If the entity is persuaded to leave, that doesn't change the individual's frequency; the only thing that can change the frequency is work on the self, by the self. That's the bottom line. And when a person thinks that "oh, it's easy, just do SRT and presto, problem solved!" they are much less inclined to do the very hard and painful work on the self. In a sense, you could say that the attaching entity is causing them the pain they COULD experience by choice, only with better ultimate results, i.e. changing their frequency, direction, and even reality.

Thread 'Session 13 May 2023'

May 16, 2023

Session Date: May 13th 2023

Laura and Andromeda at the board

Pierre, Joe, Gaby, Ark, Possibility of Being, Chu, Scottie, Niall, Pikabu the Cat

FOTCM Members participating via Zoom:

3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, Aeneas, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Altair, Ana Huitzil, Anamarija, anartist, Andrian, Anthony, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn, bluefyre, Bobo08, brandon, Breton, cassandra, cinnamon, ClaudiaYG, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, fabric, Fallen735, finduilas495, France, Gawan, genero81, Glenn, goyacobol, grini, herondancer, Hesper, hesperides, hlat & his wife, iamthatis...

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Q: (L) Was it, as Joe suggested, some dead dude opportunistically skipping along there in the ethereal realm saying, "Oh, that's me! I can get energy this way."

A: More or less. There are many such entities in the astral realms.

Q: (L) So be careful what you ask for. [Laughter]. Well, then that leads to the next question: Did Alexandra David-Néel create a thought being of her own?

A: No.

Q: (L) What was that?

A: She added energy to an elemental being, something like a nature creature.

Q: (L) And this leads obviously to the next question: When we're doing spirit release, we come across all kinds of really bizarre things. I mean, just like thought forms that come and attach and even thought forms that are created by the individual. Are these thought forms like discrete beings that have intelligence, autonomy, and persistence?

A: Some are. And some "die" after being disconnected from the source of energy.

Q: (L) Okay. If we encounter a thought form-type critter that has come and attached to an individual, is that thought form-type critter something that has been created by some other individual in the same way that some of the ones that we have encountered are created by that individual person?

(Andromeda) Right. Like created by a thought loop or strong emotion and/or a split-off part of their personality?

A: Some yes. Others are gathered energies of place or object.

Q: (L) Place or object. So you're saying that objects can... What kind of objects?

A: Trees, for one.

Q: (L) So natural objects?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So natural objects can concentrate energy such that it forms a thought form?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. And places also?

A: Yes. And some places respond to activities of humans and 2D creatures.

Q: (Joe) That's like Lethbridge, right?

(L) So a place can acquire a concentration of energy because of the actions of humans in that place?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the same is true for the actions of say, 2D creatures?

A: Yes. Though the latter is less concentrated.

Q: (L) So the imprints of creatures is less concentrated than humans?

A: Yes.

Q: (Ark) What is the relation of spells to this? When someone is casting the spell, is it a kind of a thought form also?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So people can create thought forms when they cast spells?

A: Yes. And also attract energies that are already free-floating and frequency matched.

Q: (Ark) How do you protect yourself against such things?

A: Knowledge protects. Awareness and psychic hygiene measures generally suffice. Group actions are the next level of defense.

Q: (Andromeda) What gives these things power? Like their power source... some are more powerful than others, you know? Is it a longer life, the emotional energy they get from the person, the frequency match? What is it?

A: Emotional energy is the key.

Q: (L) So strong emotions of love, anger, frustration, hate, despair, sadness, grief, those things?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, say a person was extremely sad at the loss of a loved one... And they can't get out of it. They just go on and on and on and concentrate on their grief again and again. And they think about either the awful state that they are in, or how things were and are no more. They could conceivably create a thought form or, you know, an energy structure of that sort?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would that energy structure then have the possibility of having its own autonomy and leaving its source?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And would it necessarily be extinguished at some point?

A: Not always.

Q: (L) So, it could be persistent...

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) Such things must be being created all the time, then.

A: Yes. It is a jungle out there.

So Atlanteans despite later being glorified (Plato's story) for their powerful technology (some calling it technology of "gods") are so out of control with their technology like any body else. This nicely explains Cayce's description of their destructions.

Q: (seek10) What was the time period when the crystals overpowered Atlanteans?

A: 50k to 10900 BC approximately.

Q: (L) So it was an ongoing process?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And it kind of ended at the time of the, what was that called, the Younger Dryas event?

A: Yes

According to Cayce's description (posted here) related to circumstances around that time

Cayce’s story of how the destructive forces were unleashed is entwined with the mysterious crystal. The story begins with the “White Stone,” a stone “in the form of a six-sided figure”, which was also referred to as the “Tuaoi stone.” Initially, this stone was used for communication with the divine, in a way that appears similar to how Native American shaman utilize crystals. A priestess of the Law of One would gather together a group and concentrate on the stone, eventually entering an altered state of consciousness. From the stone would come a form of speech interpreted by the priestess. The speech came from what Cayce referred to as the “saint realm,” which imparted “understanding and knowledge” to the group.

As the Sons of Belial came to realize the unlimited power inherent in the stone, they began using it for selfish purposes. Gradually, the stone was set as a crystal, and the lights emanating from it were focused and utilized. The Atlanteans developed a system to collect and focus the rays of the sun, with the crystal housed in a domed building atop a multitiered structure. Cayce related that the focused energy was used to create heat to generate gases. These gases were employed in the turning of multi-geared wheels (to perform a variety of tasks) and also to fill what are described as hot air balloons and large, Zeppelin-like aircraft. In fact, when asked to describe aircraft at the height of Atlantean civilization, Cayce stated that the skins of elephants and other animals were sewn together to form the outer surface of these craft. He added that the gases were sometimes also used to propel these craft. Other readings refer to the Atlanteans using hot air balloons for transportation around the world. But the Atlanteans also had ships that could move under water.

The uses of this crystal were many and included a form of communication, which could be seen as similar to modern radio and television. But the Cayce readings on utilization of the crystal as a communication device can also be interpreted as meaning that the Atlanteans could project reflected beams of light into the air. This could be utilized for communication, but the exact meaning of these mysterious readings is not yet completely understood.

Whatever may be the correct interpretation of this aspect of Cayce’s readings, the first destruction appears to have resulted from volcanic activity, which was stimulated by utilizing the crystal’s energy as a weapon. According to Cayce, in 50,722 B.C., a meeting was held of the world’s leaders to discuss how to cope with large herds of huge animals that were overrunning entire regions. A plan was made to use the rays of the crystal to produce explosions that would destroy the animals. The focused rays of the crystal were turned toward the earth and caused huge gas pockets to be released in the area of the Sargasso Sea. These gases apparently exploded causing a domino-effect series of catastrophic events eventually breaking Atlantis into five major islands. Cayce related that the catastrophic events included a buildup of ice and a shift in the earth’s poles that resulted not only in the destruction of a large portion of Atlantis, but also in the destruction of most of the large islands. During this time period, many Atlanteans fled the disasters by migrating to other places around the world.

By 28,000 B. C. Atlantis had not only regained its technology but actually surpassed it. Machinery, electrical devices, and power transmission sources utilizing crystals are described. But the conflicts between the Sons of Belial and the Children of the Law of One not only resurfaced, they worsened. The continual feuds between the groups caused many Atlanteans to flee to the Americas, the Pyrenees Mountains, and Egypt. The Tuaoi Stone, once a conduit to God, had now become a “terrible crystal” or a “firestone”—an energy source that could be easily utilized as a powerful weapon. Cayce relates that Atlantis had several crystals set up into power stations located at various places. For unclear reasons, the crystals were accidentally tuned too high, causing a violent destruction. The eruptions left Atlantis with three large islands and several smaller ones. Most people accept 28,000 B. C. as the date for this event, but there is one reading that could point to the year 22,000 B.C. As occurred with the first destruction, Atlanteans migrated to various places following this event.

After the second destruction, Atlantis again faced rebuilding itself. But the much smaller islands apparently never saw a full return to the height of technology reached just before the second destruction in 28,000 B.C. During this final phase of Atlantis, the Sons of Belial seemed to have become the dominant political force oppressing all those who opposed them. Cayce does not discuss a war with the people living inside the Straits of Gibraltar, but this time period corresponds to the Atlantis described by Plato. Curiously, Cayce relates that an Atlantean priest became aware that an inevitable cataclysmic event was going to result in the near total destruction of all the remaining lands of Atlantis. This awareness came from contacts with a higher intelligence that could be interpreted as either extraterrestrial or psychic in nature and occurred sometime between 11,000 B.C. to 10,500 B.C. This source also revealed to the priest a plan to preserve records of Atlantis in three different locations.

• Cayce's 1st destruction (Cayce's 50K ( C's 48K) ): They had problem of beasts invading human habitant that forced them find solution using crystals and the technology started. That led to difference of opinion between Kantek gang and native gang ( native American and Parantha type) on how to use them. They used pyramids to blow up the volcano's to kill beast habitat. This made the huge Atlantis continent in 5 pieces.
  • I was always puzzled by the scale of destruction particularly on the continent they themselves are inhabiting. How they were able to do it?
  • Even if some body used beams initially, they should realized the mess it is creating and should have backed out immediately, unless they didn't survey the continent before. right?. In my opinion, It was a mad proposition to destroy their own continent. Just 30K years back, they blew up their own planet Kantek and one would expect to be cautious.
  • These STS elemental ( with its own "will" and doesn't give dime about human condition) taking control of the technology ( due to repetition) explains the madness that must have went on during that phase. Probably it is like those drone operators shooting Iraqi civilians remotely. In this case, at least humans have some control over themselves to stop it.
• Cayce 2nd destruction ( around 28K- C's 26K ) : Cayce says it happened due to over tuning. Most probably, they thought they learned their lessons and over tuned them and same thing happened. The Atlantis continent became more pieces. only 3 pieces somewhat recovered.
• 3rd one : According to Plato's story ( from Mary Settegast's Plato prehistorian) , it is few hundred years before the nature events ( YD and Noah's flood event).

In the region around Franchthi Cave, for example, the principal resources would have been found in the rolling hill and valley-bottom country, on the coastal plain, and in near-shore waters. As it is in these now-submerged lowlands that the more important settlements of the day (including seaports) would have been located, Franchthi Cave seems very likely to have been a peripheral or marginal site, and less than exemplary of the true level of Late Paleolithic Greek culture as a whole.

But can the loss of coastal territories alone account for the striking and anomalous scarcity of archaeological remains throughout the Balkan peninsula and much of Anatolia? The emptiness of Epi-Paleolithic Greece was not limited to the coast; why should this part of the world in particular have experienced what has been termed "an extraordinary gap" in site activity between 9000 and 6000 b.c .? Is it
possible that this interval saw not only vast changes effected in the Greek coastline by the rising seas, but a dissolution of her interior landscape by waters from above? Like the paleogeog- raphers at Franchthi Cave, Plato's Egyptian priest also saw the Greece of Solon's day as a "mere remnant" ( m ) of her former size — a remarkable coincidence in itself—but the priest blamed deluge, earthquake, and subsequent erosion:

You are left, as with little islands, with something rather like the skeleton of a body wasted by disease; the rich, soft soil has all run away leaving the land nothing but skin and bone. But in those days the damage had not taken place; the hills had high crests, the rocky plain of Phelleus was covered with rich soil. . . . (Critias in ) 232

The postwar deluge and earthquakes that destroyed Ur-Athens were the greatest offenders in this process, not only swallowing up the Athenians (Timaeus 25), but denuding the Acropolis and greatly diminishing its size (Critias 112). And as the only survivors of this "greatest of all destructions by water" (Timaeus 23) were said to be rude mountain folk, we must assume that all of those other Greek nations of the day which the Critias mentions but fails to describe were similarly overcome. If this disaster were of truly the magnitude claimed by the priest, the survival even of Franchthi Cave, the only active site known to Greek archaeology during that 9000 to 6000 b .c . "gap," would be somewhat miraculous.