Session 24 January 2026

[iyan]

Thank you for sharing this session.

 

[Don Cesar]

Lot of tanks to Laura, Andromeda, the C's and all involved in this very informative session.

 

[loreta]

With AI as a subject, everything is emotion, and not just with AI. Netflix series, video games, TV news, and programs where people criticize and insult each other (there are many on Spanish TV; they're called trash programs), large gatherings to watch games, soccer, etc. Advertisements, politicians' speeches—everything in this system is a black hole where emotions pile up, where emptiness reigns. AI can be effective at providing factual information. But apart from that... no. On YouTube, that's all there is: social engineering to get people to adhere to this new religion, AI. And thousands of videos made with AI. We are emotional beings; it's in our nature. So, we need to learn—and we're already there—to discern what is true from what is false at all levels. It is a work of discernment.

Thank you for the session. It was really good to see all of you and see the good energy of Laura.

 

[Timótheos]

Bachman-Turner Overdrive aka BTO, probably retired now. The Cs quoted their song in an earlier session for the same reason: We ain't seen nothing yet.

Interesting anecdote... the song "You ain't seen nothing yet" by BTO, aside from being a great R&R song, was well known for the distinct stuttering style in some of the melody lines. Randy Bachman's brother Gary talked with a stutter, and the song was originally recorded as a joke and meant only for him to hear.

When it came time to release the band's 3rd studio album - Not Fragile - the producers thought it was missing a hit single. So, Randy Bachman suggested including this joke song on the album and tried rerecording the vocals without the stutter, but in the end everyone preferred it the original way, and so it was left in the final mix.

You can listen to the song on Youtube here...

 

[Cosmos]

As for the question what synthesized music and/or instruments might be, see here what AI says:

https://share.google/aimode/NctJRI6QBItvDlcfR

An electric guitar is not inherently a synthesizer, as it produces sound through physical string vibrations, not electronic generation. However, it functions as a controller that can be used with processors (pedals/software) to synthesize sounds, effectively turning it into a guitar synthesizer.

• Difference in Sound Generation:Synthesizers create sound via electronic signals, while electric guitars create sound by vibrating strings over magnetic pickups.
• How it Becomes a Synth: By using specific hardware (like the BOSS SY-300) or software, the guitar signal can be processed into synth-like sounds.
• Effects Pedals: Using fuzz, distortion, or specialized pedals can make an electric guitar produce sounds similar to synthesizers, although it is not a "synth" on its own.
• Specialized Equipment: Dedicated guitar synthesizers exist that use special sensors to convert string signals into MIDI data, allowing the guitar to trigger traditional synthesizer sounds.

In essence, an electric guitar is an oscillator that can be, but is not, a synthesizer.

Note that AI gives a pretty clear definition of what a synthesizer is and what not. So I think an electric guitar is not such a thing even if you go into overdrive/distortion as long as you don’t run the signal for example through a pedal or software. That would also be in accordance to what the C‘s said about amplified music by the way, which is, if I understood correctly, pretty much the same thing as amplifying and overdriving the electric guitar which in extreme amounts leads to distortion.

What the C‘s there suggested is basically in accordance to how I always felt in large parts about most if not all artificial music. I like a wide range of music but artificial stuff I always felt more of a dislike towards I think.

I would like to explicitly note some of my hopefully correct assumptions and presumptions that things that contain instruments like electric guitars in it are ok IMO. And no, I’m not forcing a specific outcome here to be true at all .

And by the way, I always felt [(and ever increasingly so as I delved into playing the guitar (mostly acoustic)] that the most important and interesting things in music for me is actually almost always a peculiar and amazing type of “instrument“: the human voice. A song can be as good as it gets but when it lacks the human voice at least in parts of it, IMO it almost always is lacking an important component of the whole assemble.

 

[luc]

Thanks for the session!

Regarding the electronic music discussion, the way I understood the Cs is that what they mean is not so much about "good vs. bad music" or more esoteric concepts like "raising FRV" or "uplifting" vs. "spiritually degrading" etc., but more about a straight-forward biological effect: synthesized/electronically created music has a negative impact on the body's health, independent of the music's quality (they said electronic music can be "lovely" etc., yet the health impact still exists).

So I would somewhat separate the discussion about musical taste, what constitutes beautiful music and so on from this more straight-forward health effect.

Then there's the additional issue with AI music, which given the discussion about AI videos is again that a) since it's electronically created by "probability mixing and mashing" of existing songs, although technically different from synthesizer-based music, still falls in the same category with its harmful health effects and b) I suppose especially with AI-created vocals, it can lead to "bonding" with a person (the "singer") that isn't real, and therefore fuel the "pipeline into nothingness" of emotional energy, similar to AI videos.

Again, these are interesting aspects that are somewhat independent of the "good music vs. bad music" discussion, i.e. lyrics, melodies, harmonies etc. For example, you could play techno on natural instruments, and people have done it, or you can play Beethoven on synthesizers, which people have also done, or there's house music that uses only samples of real instruments...

 

[EmeraldR]

Thanks to Cs, Laura and all the team
lots to reflect on !!!

-always had a hunch about electronic music !

glad I play music in a tradition that uses real accoustic instruments and voice