Session 24 October 2009

[Tigersoap]

Awesome work on the different variations of proposed logos ... wish I was able to do that in Photoshop. One day I'll have someone show to me how to do it!

You can always start by following tutorials and see where your creativity leads you ;)

_http://psd.tutsplus.com/category/tutorials/

 

[mada85]

I am thinking about all the places that the logo could appear, i for one would like a mug a T-shirt with the logo on.

But for know I have tried a plaque with a logo in glass.

This is a beautiful piece of work, rolyateel. I really like way that light becomes an integral part of the logo. Having the logo seemingly suspended in space gives it a sense of elegance and dynamism that the flat 2D representations don't have to quite the same degree, at least for me. Beautiful.

Where can I get one? ;D

 

[Buddy]

Nickelbleu's logo design developed for jewelry.

Most awesome!

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=Laura]Thing is, if they had left it all alone, maybe we would have focused on "alternative healing practices
as well as in comforting the dying or distressed." As it is now, we have a large focus on pathology. So, in other words, they just made it worse for themselves overall...

Funny how that works.
[/quote]

I guess when they used there ‘psychopathic’ tactics it was also a opportunity to learn from it. Like they gave themselves away. Every time an attack occurred there was this risk for them that they would expose themselves, that you would saw right through them. I guess it goes both ways. You either fall or stand up again and well you stood up again and kept standing.


So the other time-line had 2050 in mind. Well FotCM is much better. We see what happens. But probably this version will go a lot faster. :D

All those logo’s variations it really gets better and better. – I was thinking what about it’s font. Most symbols, logo’s got one. Will FotCM have it also? When I have some time left I will try to make a few. Anyway maybe something to think about. ;D

 

[Gawan]

Thing is, if they had left it all alone, maybe we would have focused on "alternative healing practices
as well as in comforting the dying or distressed." As it is now, we have a large focus on pathology. So, in other words, they just made it worse for themselves overall...

Funny how that works.

I think about this all the time - how when someone is trying to prevent you (in general) from doing something, it often leads to their own demise... It reminds me of several fairy tales where the king/queen is given a prophesy and helps the very prophecy to be realized by taking steps to stop it whereas if they had done nothing, the prophesy would never have happened (eg. snow white). Perhaps the magic mirror in the story was STS reflecting the queen's own wishful thinking back to her...

By the way, great job everyone on the designs. It's really coming along! What's especially nice is that we're using this medium (internet) in an artistic way.

Well there is a quote from Goethe running through my head, also since following this session somehow, maybe it is related:

emphases mine

Faust.
The being of such gentlemen as you, indeed,
In general, from your titles one can read.
It shows itself but all too plainly when men dub
You Liar or Destroyer or Beelzebub.
Well now, who are you then?

Mephistopheles.
Part of that Power which would
The Evil ever do, and ever does the Good.

Faust.
A riddle! Say what it implies!

Mephistopheles.
I am the Spirit that denies!
And rightly too; for all that doth begin
Should rightly to destruction run;
'Twere better then that nothing were begun.
Thus everything that you call Sin,
Destruction - in a word, as Evil represent-
That is my own, real element.

Faust.
You call yourself a part, yet whole you're standing there.

Mephistopheles.
A modest truth do I declare.
A man, the microcosmic fool, down in his soul
Is wont to think himself a whole,
But I'm part of the Part which at the first was all,
Part of the Darkness that gave birth to Light,
The haughty Light that now with Mother Night
Disputes her ancient rank and space withal,
And yet 'twill not succeed, since, strive as strive it may,
Fettered to bodies will Light stay.
It streams from bodies, it makes bodies fair,
A body hinders it upon its way,
And so, I hope, it has not long to stay
And will with bodies their destruction share.

Faust.
Now I perceive your worthy occupation!
You can't achieve wholesale annihilation
And now a retail business you've begun.

Mephistopheles.
And truly there by nothing much is done.
What stands out as the opposite of Naught-
This Something, this your clumsy world - for aught
I have already undertaken,
It have I done no harm nor shaken
With waves and storms, with earthquakes, fiery brand.
Calm, after all, remain both sea and land.
And that accursed trash, the brood of beasts and men,
A way to get at them I've never found.
How many now I've buried in the ground!
Yet fresh, new blood forever circulates again.
Thus on and on - one could go mad in sheer despair!
From earth, from water, and from air
A thousand germs evolving start,
In dryness, moisture, warmth, and cold!
Weren't it for fire which I withhold,
I'd have as mine not one thing set apart.

Faust.
So to that Power never reposing,
Creative, healing, you're opposing
Your frigid devil's fist with might and main.
It's clenched in spite and clenched in vain!
Seek something else to undertake,
You, Chaos' odd, fantastic son!

Imperfect though they may be, I thank Cosmic Mind for the Cs!!!

And thank you as well Laura, for making things possible!


And by the way, great finding Johnno, to see that symbol of your quote has been: shocking and also exciting.
Really great session so far and again it's great to see the developing of the symbol!

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

Notice how there seemed to be concern for keeping the "mainstream religions" in place, especially Christianity. Notice also that "it is seen as threatening in the extreme." Well, obviously, this info is only a tiny bit of the remote viewing info available to the PTB so they have undoubtedly done a lot more in this direction and it is clear that this idea was seen as so threatening that they decided to do something to try to "void that future." A little traveling into the past to try to change things there, and a little 9-11 and Fascist crack-down, and there you go! No challengers to the PTB anymore!

Another interesting thing to note is Half Past Human's prediction of some big "emotional release" on October 25th, approximately. Well, nothing obvious to them and those who follow them happened. And George Ure even pointed out it may be something that only in hindsight will it be known. Maybe this C session with the announcement of the FOTCM was it. If so, we seem to have done a good job at not drawing attention to ourselves in its inception.

I notice also that Terence Mckenna's 'Timewave Zero' program singles out October 26th 2009 as a crucial 'Novelty' point. For those unfamiliar with the Timewave Zero Computer Program, it is a Mathematical formula based on the King Wen Sequence of the I-Ching which was conceived by Mckenna in the mid seventies and it claims to highlight points in our history during which critical transformation and fundamental shifts in our collective evolution occur.

The formula supposedly pinpoints history's most important events of which october 26th is one . Mckenna himself believed that there would be some form of radical and complete transformation of human conciousness/existence on or around December 21 2012 or at least after this date, entropy and habituation would cease to exist. Whilst we're aware that such exact dating is more than likely false I thought the 'Novelty' point of 26/10/09 was interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugypsEdTy-o

You can read more about the man himself and Time-Wave Zero here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_mckenna

 

[seek10]

Thought I'd throw this in what is going on. This is from Remote View Joseph McMoneagle's "The Ultimate Time Machine" 1999 edition. I usually take anything RV with a grain of salt, yet this seems to be rather close to the mark, 10 years on.

Note he predicts the death of the Pope John Paul in 1999 to be replaced by an Italian one though. :)

Beginning sometime between 2002 and 2005, there will
be a concerted effort to birth a new view of religion that is
designed to bring religion and science together again, but
without the emphasis on Christianity. Its primary dogma will
be based on universal rules or laws of the spirit. These new
religious principals will attempt to merge current scientific
belief with current spiritual thinking. This new religion will
address the ephemeral science of soul, or how man's interaction
with reality affects life, health, and well-being. It may
even be called something like The Metaphysical Church of
Science. This will be a rough birth initially, as it will be seen
as threatening in the extreme. However, in its design, it will
allow for individual variations of belief, and preach respect
for those individual variances. By the year 2050, it will have
established a firm base in both--alternative healing practices
as well as in comforting the dying or distressed.

The sign for this church will be the Infinity Symbol, superim-
posed on a circle:

Rather than be threatened by this, other denominations
should take warning from this prediction and begin now to
expand on the issues surrounding unconditional love, as well as
the need to integrate the morality of science into their dogma.

when I go to book stores and see the sci-fi novels, romantic novels (mental porn) and thriller stuff, I wonder where does it come from ?. some body keep on feeding these authors according their needs.
PTB technlogies are another area , we see the same pattern. When one technology or junk science is exposed , alternative is ready , but the same effect but with different trojan horse. same thing with the politicians. see the emergence of , bush, sarah palin, obama's election ( a man with absolute no history of any thing, he doesn't have money or even the right color ) , then the threats of exposing his father with a probable replacement of him, then sarah palin makes news of possible come back.

It all sounds like some body keeping the pawns ready over and over and over again , when the time comes, his puts the light on the one pawn out of thousands of pawns waiting or mixes and matching of pawn's effects.

4D STS's time travel and their 3D PTB minions ability to read "mass dreams of future" are good enough to control and plan for the future, the only solution is to not to come under the mass dreams. is this has any thing to do C's concept of ' Not anticipating' ?. I am assuming that anticipating has some thing to do the dreams. probably, these dream are effected by infinite issues .

Another thing that comes to mind is vinnie's galactic alignment funda , propagated by the history channel and others. This sounds like a divertion to the brown star elliptic plane intersection to the solar system intersection. sounds strange to see they have answer to every truth.

 

[Heaalih]

I find that two yin/yang symbols is a bit strange for a unity symbol, as it represents already two faces of the unity.
Here is an idea. I took a try with the Gimp :

 

[Lauranimal]

Quote from: bjorn

"...All those logo’s variations it really gets better and better. – I was thinking what about it’s font. Most symbols, logo’s got one. Will FotCM have it also? When I have some time left I will try to make a few...."

Funny you mentioned this.... I was looking at the new album release by Delerium, and the letter 'I' in Delerium, really stood out to me. Beautiful. And I thought, "gee, I wonder if anyone has given any thought to the font for the logo?"

_http://www.myspace.com/delerium

looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

 

[Laura]

Okay, the OFFICIAL symbol is posted here: http://paleochristianity.org/ We are working on getting the site operational in the next few days. You'll notice that some of your suggestions have been incorporated along with my personal preferences. Since I'm the one gonna be looking at this thing day and night probably until I die, it's gonna be colors that make me happy!

Also, FOTCM matters of discussion will be moved to the new FOTCM forum. If you can't see it when you log in, that means I haven't received your application and given you the permissions to see it. When I get your app with your forum email or identity (preferably both), I'll adjust your forum account. In a couple of weeks, all fellowship business and plans will be discussed there by members only though general discussion will still be available to the whole forum.

 

[Zadius Sky]

Okay, the OFFICIAL symbol is posted here: http://paleochristianity.org/

Awesome!

 

[Turgon]

You'll notice that some of your suggestions have been incorporated along with my personal preferences. Since I'm the one gonna be looking at this thing day and night probably until I die, it's gonna be colors that make me happy!

That seems fair enough!

Also, FOTCM matters of discussion will be moved to the new FOTCM forum. If you can't see it when you log in, that means I haven't received your application and given you the permissions to see it. When I get your app with your forum email or identity (preferably both), I'll adjust your forum account. In a couple of weeks, all fellowship business and plans will be discussed there by members only though general discussion will still be available to the whole forum.

I haven't sent in my application yet. I'm hesitant to tell my parents, in particular my mom. I was thinking of printing out the Statements of Principles to let them read (if they want to - which is probably 50/50 if they will) and if they have any questions or concerns to raise them with me, and then apply in a few days after I've given them ample time to read it and talk to me about it. It seems like the fairest way of going about it.

 

[anart]

I haven't sent in my application yet. I'm hesitant to tell my parents, in particular my mom. I was thinking of printing out the Statements of Principles to let them read (if they want to - which is probably 50/50 if they will) and if they have any questions or concerns to raise them with me, and then apply in a few days after I've given them ample time to read it and talk to me about it. It seems like the fairest way of going about it.

Hi Daniel, I'm just curious, how old are you? (if you don't mind saying)

 

[Turgon]

I haven't sent in my application yet. I'm hesitant to tell my parents, in particular my mom. I was thinking of printing out the Statements of Principles to let them read (if they want to - which is probably 50/50 if they will) and if they have any questions or concerns to raise them with me, and then apply in a few days after I've given them ample time to read it and talk to me about it. It seems like the fairest way of going about it.

Hi Daniel, I'm just curious, how old are you?

Well, I just turned 27 (Still live w/my parents). So I'm more than of majority age to make the decision of what religion I choose to be a part of. But I guess there's more to it than that, as far as deep-seated programs, particularly in regards to my family, specifically my mom. So in a sense I'm a bit fearful of letting them know about this, because if I just go ahead and do it, I think there's gonna be arguments and problems. But I think if I inform them ahead of time, that maybe it might not be so bad.

I think even though I'm really excited about the FOTCM, I've still been affected by the word 'cult' and my lack of confidence in myself to properly express and explain how this is not the same thing by a longshot. (Somehow I think I'll just end up doing a terrible job of explaining and will turn people off, or against the FOTCM) - Predators Mind.

Edit - I was so hesitant to answer to the question I contemplated ignoring it, or in a roundabout way not answering it. I definitely felt a shock, something I need to look into more deeply about myself. PS - Sorry for the hijack, this thread should be used for discussions in regards to the C's session, not personal and family issues.

 

[Masamune]

Okay, the OFFICIAL symbol is posted here: http://paleochristianity.org/ We are working on getting the site operational in the next few days. You'll notice that some of your suggestions have been incorporated along with my personal preferences. Since I'm the one gonna be looking at this thing day and night probably until I die, it's gonna be colors that make me happy!

I really like this symbol and think the colors are great!