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I remembered that I had some images with information I had about Göbekli Tepe in my folders that came from the book by Andrew Collins of which I leave part of the review that appears on amazon. And of course it seems to me that the info and the thread explained by @Michael B-C where he explains his detailed semiotic research of each image is also very valuable to see.
From the book of Andrew Collins Karahan Tepe: Civilization of the Anunnaki and the Cosmic Origins of the Serpent of Eden in Amazon:
-Collins alludes to appears to be comprised of these mythical deities of Sumerian culture, the Annunnaki. There are no archaeological data to support his claim that these are the builders of Karahan Tepe.
He suggests that Karahan Tepe might be the location of the biblical Garden of Eden
Collins also speculates that the builders of Karahan Tepe had knowledge of the galactic center and its alleged influence on Earth. He draws on scientific hypotheses about the cyclical activity of the galactic center and its possible impact on life on Earth, suggesting that the site’s builders were aware of these cosmic events.
This is a schematic and illustrated explanation of the Vulture stele on one of the columns of the in Göbekli Tepe.
Everything in Göbekli Tepe is mysterious.
From the techniques used to erect the monoliths without the help of animals, to the fact that no settlements were found near this temple. The site is believed to be a shrine due to its configuration and alignment with various constellations, and thus it is concluded that there was a cult that looked to the sky.
11,000 years old Karahan Tepe is just 37 km away from Göbekli Tepe, Türkiye.
The pillars at Göbekli Tepe are notable for their size and craftsmanship. The largest pillars on the site are about 5.5 meters (18 ft) high and can weigh up to several tons. These massive stone pillars are decorated with intricate carvings and reliefs of animals, abstract symbols and humanoid figures, demonstrating the high level of artistic and technical skill possessed by the ancient builders.

The Celestial Secrets of the Vulture Stele: Echoes of an Ancient Cosmic Catastrophe.
The Vulture Stele, a mysterious artifact estimated to be at least 12,000 years old, was discovered in ruins reminiscent of the famous Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey. The ancient monument has sparked heated debate among scholars and enthusiasts alike, as its intricate carvings point to far more advanced astronomical knowledge than previously thought for
At the center of the stele is a sphere, widely interpreted as the Earth, surrounded by a variety of animal figures that many believe represent constellations. This raises intriguing questions: could our distant ancestors have known that the Earth was spherical, and did they organize the heavens into a complex system of constellations? The precise placement of these figures hints at a close connection to the cosmos, meaning that these early peoples were able to observe celestial patterns with a sophistication that defies conventional timelines.
Adding to the mystery, a closer look at the top right of the stele reveals two serpentine shapes seemingly descending from the sky. Some researchers have suggested that these “snakes” represent a swarm of comets, cataclysmic events that are believed to have bombarded the Earth around the time the stele was created. This interpretation is supported by recent astrophysical research, which has documented a significant comet impact event around 12,000 years ago.


New find at Karahan Tepe - a hoard of stone vessels and plates. The bowls are made of black colored chlorite stone and are fully decorated with geometry and animal patterns. Numerous fireplaces were found in a structure that probably was a public building complex.
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I remembered that I had some images with information I had about Göbekli Tepe in my folders that came from the book by Andrew Collins of which I leave part of the review that appears on amazon. And of course it seems to me that the info and the thread explained by @Michael B-C where he explains his detailed semiotic research of each image is also very valuable to see.
From the book of Andrew Collins Karahan Tepe: Civilization of the Anunnaki and the Cosmic Origins of the Serpent of Eden in Amazon:
Collins argues that the builders Karahan Tepe (and other sites) possessed a profound understanding of astronomy and aligned their structures with celestial events. He mentions the suspected alignments of certain enclosures with the rising or setting sun at solstices and proposes connections between some structures and stars. An example is the Pit Shrine’s alignment with the setting of the star Deneb, is an example of the sort of astronomical knowledge and sophisticated thinking. He goes on associate the serpent imagery found in Karahan Tepe as a representation of the Milky Way, suggesting that the builders viewed the galaxy as a celestial serpent. This, in itself, isn’t a stretch. Though it might as easily been viewed by the builders as a celestial river. Or mountain range. Or perhaps the builders were divided about what the Milky Way represented. Or maybe they viewed it differently at different chronological periods.An in-depth investigation of the ancient structures at Karahan Tepe, its builders, and its cosmic shamanic purpose
• Examines the intricate carvings, chambers, and structures, revealing the site’s acoustical properties, shamanic symbolism, and astronomical alignments
• Reveals how Karahan Tepe was used by shamans to connect with the Milky Way’s Galactic bulge in its role as the head of the cosmic serpent
• Explains how the site’s builders, who created the world’s first post–Ice Age civilization, are remembered in myth and legend as the Watchers and Nephilim of Jewish religious tradition and as the Anunnaki gods of Sumerian mythology
Chronicling his explorations of Karahan Tepe, Andrew Collins presents the first in-depth investigation of the discoveries at the site: who built it, its astronomical alignments, and its cosmological connections. He examines the intricate carvings and architectural features, including a newly discovered statue of a giant human figure. Explaining how the site functioned as a shamanic oracle center, Collins shows how its rock-cut structures were used to connect with the Milky Way’s Galactic Bulge and stars of Scorpius in their role as the head and active spirit of a perceived cosmic serpent. He traces this serpent motif throughout history, identifying it with the biblical serpent of Eden, the kundalini of Vedic tradition, and the black snake of the Yezidis. He demonstrates how the belief in the existence of the Milky Way serpent among the inhabitants of Karahan Tepe went on to influence the foundation of the Gnostic Ophite mysteries suppressed by the Christian Church. He also shows how the founders of Karahan Tepe were recalled in Hebrew myth and legend as the Watchers and Nephilim and in Sumerian and Babylonian mythology as the Anunnaki.
-Collins alludes to appears to be comprised of these mythical deities of Sumerian culture, the Annunnaki. There are no archaeological data to support his claim that these are the builders of Karahan Tepe.
He suggests that Karahan Tepe might be the location of the biblical Garden of Eden
…what was taking place at Karahan Tepe in the tenth millennium BCE would go on to become mythologized in Hebrew tradition as Adam and Eve’s temptation by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden…
Collins also speculates that the builders of Karahan Tepe had knowledge of the galactic center and its alleged influence on Earth. He draws on scientific hypotheses about the cyclical activity of the galactic center and its possible impact on life on Earth, suggesting that the site’s builders were aware of these cosmic events.
The question then becomes: did the Great Serpent really exist as a supercelestial intelligence out in the cosmos, or was it simply the creation of Karahan Tepe’s Ta? Tepeler community? That the Galactic Bulge, as the head of the cosmic serpent, corresponds with the center of our own Milky Way galaxy is something that our most ancient ancestors should never have known about. This, however, would appear to be contrary to the evidence, for as we see in the final part of this book, there are clear indications that the Karahan community’s choice of the Galactic Bulge as the sky portal leading to the cosmic source of creation might well have been based on some knowledge of the Galactic Center, and in particular its dynamic impact on the rise and fall of life on Earth.
This is a schematic and illustrated explanation of the Vulture stele on one of the columns of the in Göbekli Tepe.
Everything in Göbekli Tepe is mysterious.
From the techniques used to erect the monoliths without the help of animals, to the fact that no settlements were found near this temple. The site is believed to be a shrine due to its configuration and alignment with various constellations, and thus it is concluded that there was a cult that looked to the sky.
11,000 years old Karahan Tepe is just 37 km away from Göbekli Tepe, Türkiye.
The pillars at Göbekli Tepe are notable for their size and craftsmanship. The largest pillars on the site are about 5.5 meters (18 ft) high and can weigh up to several tons. These massive stone pillars are decorated with intricate carvings and reliefs of animals, abstract symbols and humanoid figures, demonstrating the high level of artistic and technical skill possessed by the ancient builders.

The Celestial Secrets of the Vulture Stele: Echoes of an Ancient Cosmic Catastrophe.
The Vulture Stele, a mysterious artifact estimated to be at least 12,000 years old, was discovered in ruins reminiscent of the famous Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey. The ancient monument has sparked heated debate among scholars and enthusiasts alike, as its intricate carvings point to far more advanced astronomical knowledge than previously thought for
At the center of the stele is a sphere, widely interpreted as the Earth, surrounded by a variety of animal figures that many believe represent constellations. This raises intriguing questions: could our distant ancestors have known that the Earth was spherical, and did they organize the heavens into a complex system of constellations? The precise placement of these figures hints at a close connection to the cosmos, meaning that these early peoples were able to observe celestial patterns with a sophistication that defies conventional timelines.
Adding to the mystery, a closer look at the top right of the stele reveals two serpentine shapes seemingly descending from the sky. Some researchers have suggested that these “snakes” represent a swarm of comets, cataclysmic events that are believed to have bombarded the Earth around the time the stele was created. This interpretation is supported by recent astrophysical research, which has documented a significant comet impact event around 12,000 years ago.


New find at Karahan Tepe - a hoard of stone vessels and plates. The bowls are made of black colored chlorite stone and are fully decorated with geometry and animal patterns. Numerous fireplaces were found in a structure that probably was a public building complex.
Ryan) Is the hypothesized dating for the earliest construction of Gobekli Tepe (9700 - 9500 BCE) approximately correct?
A: About 1k years off.
Q: (L) About 1000 years off. That means older, like 10,700?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So it's a little bit older than what... Well, you would imagine that they would try to make it as young as they possibly could and get away with it.
(Ryan) Who was responsible for the initial construction?
A: Survivors.
Q: (L) Survivors from where?
A: Those who built pyramids.
Q: (L) So there was some event that fell upon the people who built the pyramids and they fled and built this thing here?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) The Exodus.
(L) It was the Exodus, yes! [laughter]
(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe's primary purpose, as Klaus Schmidt theorized, as a place of ritual or religious activity?
A: Not precisely. More like an observatory. Also a message.
Q: (Ryan) For how long was the site in use?
A: 3 to 4K years.
Q: (L) Three to four thousand years. So that would take it to about 7,000, something like that? Okay.
(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe always temporarily inhabited or were there ever permanent settlements there or close nearby?
A: Temporary.
Q: (L) So they temporarily used it, they would come and go, is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) But they lived elsewhere?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Was it an observatory for observing movement of the skies, basically, in anticipation of another...?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And they tried to leave a message to future generations about cyclical catastrophes or periodic...?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) And they succeeded because it's been decoded recently.
(L) Yeah. Somebody's done some really good work decoding it.
(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe deliberately buried by later generations?
A: No. Buried to protect it from later generations. See Settegast.
Q: (L) Okay. So that's Mary Settegast and her book, what's the title of her book? Plato Prehistorian. Yeah. And then there was one other she did... When Zarathustra Spoke. Have you read those books, Ryan?
(Ryan) No, they're on my list now.
(L) I see. All right. And then:
(iamthatis) Is there a deliberate effort to prevent a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe?
A: Yes
Q: (iamthatis) If so, why?
A: Will reveal too much.
Q: (L) So yeah, that's probably why they're down dating it a little or updating it or whatever. They really got this thing about this uniformitarianism and gradual progression and evolution and human beings now are at the peak of human evolution. And back then they were cave dwellers who rubbed bear grease in their hair and danced in the moonlight. Yeah... Okay. God forbid they should have exact astronomical knowledge and even technology.
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