Session 26 April 2025

Thanks to Laura and Andromeda 👍 for sharing your energy with everyone, those who participated thank you for being there to share with your questions and input. Once again, an excellent session.




I remembered that I had some images with information I had about Göbekli Tepe in my folders that came from the book by Andrew Collins of which I leave part of the review that appears on amazon. And of course it seems to me that the info and the thread explained by @Michael B-C where he explains his detailed semiotic research of each image is also very valuable to see.

From the book of Andrew Collins Karahan Tepe: Civilization of the Anunnaki and the Cosmic Origins of the Serpent of Eden in Amazon:
An in-depth investigation of the ancient structures at Karahan Tepe, its builders, and its cosmic shamanic purpose
• Examines the intricate carvings, chambers, and structures, revealing the site’s acoustical properties, shamanic symbolism, and astronomical alignments
• Reveals how Karahan Tepe was used by shamans to connect with the Milky Way’s Galactic bulge in its role as the head of the cosmic serpent
• Explains how the site’s builders, who created the world’s first post–Ice Age civilization, are remembered in myth and legend as the Watchers and Nephilim of Jewish religious tradition and as the Anunnaki gods of Sumerian mythology

Chronicling his explorations of Karahan Tepe, Andrew Collins presents the first in-depth investigation of the discoveries at the site: who built it, its astronomical alignments, and its cosmological connections. He examines the intricate carvings and architectural features, including a newly discovered statue of a giant human figure. Explaining how the site functioned as a shamanic oracle center, Collins shows how its rock-cut structures were used to connect with the Milky Way’s Galactic Bulge and stars of Scorpius in their role as the head and active spirit of a perceived cosmic serpent. He traces this serpent motif throughout history, identifying it with the biblical serpent of Eden, the kundalini of Vedic tradition, and the black snake of the Yezidis. He demonstrates how the belief in the existence of the Milky Way serpent among the inhabitants of Karahan Tepe went on to influence the foundation of the Gnostic Ophite mysteries suppressed by the Christian Church. He also shows how the founders of Karahan Tepe were recalled in Hebrew myth and legend as the Watchers and Nephilim and in Sumerian and Babylonian mythology as the Anunnaki.
Collins argues that the builders Karahan Tepe (and other sites) possessed a profound understanding of astronomy and aligned their structures with celestial events. He mentions the suspected alignments of certain enclosures with the rising or setting sun at solstices and proposes connections between some structures and stars. An example is the Pit Shrine’s alignment with the setting of the star Deneb, is an example of the sort of astronomical knowledge and sophisticated thinking. He goes on associate the serpent imagery found in Karahan Tepe as a representation of the Milky Way, suggesting that the builders viewed the galaxy as a celestial serpent. This, in itself, isn’t a stretch. Though it might as easily been viewed by the builders as a celestial river. Or mountain range. Or perhaps the builders were divided about what the Milky Way represented. Or maybe they viewed it differently at different chronological periods.
-Collins alludes to appears to be comprised of these mythical deities of Sumerian culture, the Annunnaki. There are no archaeological data to support his claim that these are the builders of Karahan Tepe.

He suggests that Karahan Tepe might be the location of the biblical Garden of Eden
…what was taking place at Karahan Tepe in the tenth millennium BCE would go on to become mythologized in Hebrew tradition as Adam and Eve’s temptation by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden…

Collins also speculates that the builders of Karahan Tepe had knowledge of the galactic center and its alleged influence on Earth. He draws on scientific hypotheses about the cyclical activity of the galactic center and its possible impact on life on Earth, suggesting that the site’s builders were aware of these cosmic events.
The question then becomes: did the Great Serpent really exist as a supercelestial intelligence out in the cosmos, or was it simply the creation of Karahan Tepe’s Ta? Tepeler community? That the Galactic Bulge, as the head of the cosmic serpent, corresponds with the center of our own Milky Way galaxy is something that our most ancient ancestors should never have known about. This, however, would appear to be contrary to the evidence, for as we see in the final part of this book, there are clear indications that the Karahan community’s choice of the Galactic Bulge as the sky portal leading to the cosmic source of creation might well have been based on some knowledge of the Galactic Center, and in particular its dynamic impact on the rise and fall of life on Earth.

This is a schematic and illustrated explanation of the Vulture stele on one of the columns of the in Göbekli Tepe.

Everything in Göbekli Tepe is mysterious.
From the techniques used to erect the monoliths without the help of animals, to the fact that no settlements were found near this temple. The site is believed to be a shrine due to its configuration and alignment with various constellations, and thus it is concluded that there was a cult that looked to the sky.
11,000 years old Karahan Tepe is just 37 km away from Göbekli Tepe, Türkiye.

The pillars at Göbekli Tepe are notable for their size and craftsmanship. The largest pillars on the site are about 5.5 meters (18 ft) high and can weigh up to several tons. These massive stone pillars are decorated with intricate carvings and reliefs of animals, abstract symbols and humanoid figures, demonstrating the high level of artistic and technical skill possessed by the ancient builders.


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The Celestial Secrets of the Vulture Stele: Echoes of an Ancient Cosmic Catastrophe.

The Vulture Stele, a mysterious artifact estimated to be at least 12,000 years old, was discovered in ruins reminiscent of the famous Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey. The ancient monument has sparked heated debate among scholars and enthusiasts alike, as its intricate carvings point to far more advanced astronomical knowledge than previously thought for
At the center of the stele is a sphere, widely interpreted as the Earth, surrounded by a variety of animal figures that many believe represent constellations. This raises intriguing questions: could our distant ancestors have known that the Earth was spherical, and did they organize the heavens into a complex system of constellations? The precise placement of these figures hints at a close connection to the cosmos, meaning that these early peoples were able to observe celestial patterns with a sophistication that defies conventional timelines.
Adding to the mystery, a closer look at the top right of the stele reveals two serpentine shapes seemingly descending from the sky. Some researchers have suggested that these “snakes” represent a swarm of comets, cataclysmic events that are believed to have bombarded the Earth around the time the stele was created. This interpretation is supported by recent astrophysical research, which has documented a significant comet impact event around 12,000 years ago.

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New find at Karahan Tepe - a hoard of stone vessels and plates. The bowls are made of black colored chlorite stone and are fully decorated with geometry and animal patterns. Numerous fireplaces were found in a structure that probably was a public building complex.

Ryan) Is the hypothesized dating for the earliest construction of Gobekli Tepe (9700 - 9500 BCE) approximately correct?
A: About 1k years off.
Q: (L) About 1000 years off. That means older, like 10,700?
A: Yes

Q: (L) So it's a little bit older than what... Well, you would imagine that they would try to make it as young as they possibly could and get away with it.

(Ryan) Who was responsible for the initial construction?
A: Survivors.

Q: (L) Survivors from where?
A: Those who built pyramids.

Q: (L) So there was some event that fell upon the people who built the pyramids and they fled and built this thing here?
A: Yes

Q: (Niall) The Exodus.

(L) It was the Exodus, yes! [laughter]
(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe's primary purpose, as Klaus Schmidt theorized, as a place of ritual or religious activity?
A: Not precisely. More like an observatory. Also a message.

Q: (Ryan) For how long was the site in use?
A: 3 to 4K years.

Q: (L) Three to four thousand years. So that would take it to about 7,000, something like that? Okay.

(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe always temporarily inhabited or were there ever permanent settlements there or close nearby?
A: Temporary.

Q: (L) So they temporarily used it, they would come and go, is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) But they lived elsewhere?
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Was it an observatory for observing movement of the skies, basically, in anticipation of another...?
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And they tried to leave a message to future generations about cyclical catastrophes or periodic...?
A: Yes

Q: (Niall) And they succeeded because it's been decoded recently.
(L) Yeah. Somebody's done some really good work decoding it.

(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe deliberately buried by later generations?
A: No. Buried to protect it from later generations. See Settegast.

Q: (L) Okay. So that's Mary Settegast and her book, what's the title of her book? Plato Prehistorian. Yeah. And then there was one other she did... When Zarathustra Spoke. Have you read those books, Ryan?
(Ryan) No, they're on my list now.
(L) I see. All right. And then:

(iamthatis) Is there a deliberate effort to prevent a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe?
A: Yes
Q: (iamthatis) If so, why?
A: Will reveal too much.

Q: (L) So yeah, that's probably why they're down dating it a little or updating it or whatever. They really got this thing about this uniformitarianism and gradual progression and evolution and human beings now are at the peak of human evolution. And back then they were cave dwellers who rubbed bear grease in their hair and danced in the moonlight. Yeah... Okay. God forbid they should have exact astronomical knowledge and even technology.

 

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Organic Portals do not have individual souls, but operate with a collective group soul, which makes them fundamentally different from humans with individualized souls. So OPs do not have the ability to "ascend" to fifth density (5D) individually, as they lack an individualized soul.

We have been told by the Cs that 5D is a state of consciousness where individual souls reflect, learn and prepare for new incarnations or spiritual progressions. Since OPs operate with a collective group soul, they do not possess the "divine spark" or higher centers necessary to evolve spiritually into higher densities, such as 5D.

We could make an analogy between a RAM memory and an OP, both have a temporary and collective processing, that is, the RAM memory stores data temporarily for a system to process them quickly, without retaining them in the long term. Similarly, OPs, operate as "conduits" or "vehicles" that process experiences and energy in 3D collectively, without an individualized connection to a "permanent storage" such as an individual soul or Higher Self. Their consciousness would be limited to immediate experience, without an autonomous spiritual purpose.

That's not what I mean. I more or less understand the difference between OP and people with souls. What I mean is that never during a session when someone asks about a deceased person do we find out that they are not in 5D, as you say the soul of OP does not go to 5D. It's like accusing Dr Michael Newton that all his descriptions of life after death never revealed the existence of OP and the lack of the soul of the dying person. During sessions 100% of every soul we ask about is in 5D. Why don't we get an answer suggesting the person was OP?
 
During sessions 100% of every soul we ask about is in 5D. Why don't we get an answer suggesting the person was OP?
Are you sure we don't? 😏

What is an OP? A vehicle driven by an immaterial force. An empty vessel filled by a whatever decides to pour inside at the moment.
But the Cs said that nothing with intelligence can truly be "soulless". Every OP has a splinter of a soul, connected to the greater whole, which stays vacant most of the time, leaving empty space for other things hop in. If the soul sees fit... it can enter the OP fully, turning it into a souled being.

And here's a thought: why does everyone assume every OP stays an OP the entire time? And why assume every souled human stays souled?
Maybe it's a state of on and off. Slipping into the body, and slipping out. Taking full control, and running completely in autopilot.
And when the autopilot is on, something else can take over, doing the best it can do to make the soul suffer once it returns. Like getting drunk, losing consciousness, and then waking up to realize you committed a vile crime you would never do. Living in one reality, and one day waking up in a completely different reality with no memories of it!

So, how often can we really even say a person is truly an OP? And if an actual OP dies, would it even be accurate to say that they do not reside in 5D? After all, the greater soul is in 5D all the time, observing its splinters live and die, learning, gaining experience. Once those fragments finish their job, they are "absorbed" back.

And i think it's safe to say that those fragments would need to be "cleansed" before they can merge with the whole (you might even want to call it a "second death"). They would need to raise their frequency to become compatible. They would need to... go to sleep.

That one thing is probably the key here, even if, from our perspective, it might not be as clear-cut as you would want to. A traumatized soul going to 5D might look very much the same as an OP being reabsorbed, but i doubt an OP is able to quickly adjust to 5D.
Also, why does it matter anyway? :-P
 
Are you sure we don't? 😏

What is an OP? A vehicle driven by an immaterial force. An empty vessel filled by a whatever decides to pour inside at the moment.
But the Cs said that nothing with intelligence can truly be "soulless". Every OP has a splinter of a soul, connected to the greater whole, which stays vacant most of the time, leaving empty space for other things hop in. If the soul sees fit... it can enter the OP fully, turning it into a souled being.

And here's a thought: why does everyone assume every OP stays an OP the entire time? And why assume every souled human stays souled?
Maybe it's a state of on and off. Slipping into the body, and slipping out. Taking full control, and running completely in autopilot.
And when the autopilot is on, something else can take over, doing the best it can do to make the soul suffer once it returns. Like getting drunk, losing consciousness, and then waking up to realize you committed a vile crime you would never do. Living in one reality, and one day waking up in a completely different reality with no memories of it!

So, how often can we really even say a person is truly an OP? And if an actual OP dies, would it even be accurate to say that they do not reside in 5D? After all, the greater soul is in 5D all the time, observing its splinters live and die, learning, gaining experience. Once those fragments finish their job, they are "absorbed" back.

And i think it's safe to say that those fragments would need to be "cleansed" before they can merge with the whole (you might even want to call it a "second death"). They would need to raise their frequency to become compatible. They would need to... go to sleep.

That one thing is probably the key here, even if, from our perspective, it might not be as clear-cut as you would want to. A traumatized soul going to 5D might look very much the same as an OP being reabsorbed, but i doubt an OP is able to quickly adjust to 5D.
Also, why does it matter anyway? :-P

I think it matters because it's Knowledge of reality. I like these kinds of questions because we're always talking about the Soul - but I'm not sure any of us really knows what it is. It's one of those perennial concepts like Beauty or Truth that seems to escape definition when we try to describe it.

We've started getting insight into some of the many Soul possibilities, though - what it does, and its complexity. By way of comparison, I think it's kinda like we're in the same stage of Soul research as occurred during the first days of studying genetics. Like Mendel and his peas, we know something is going on here, but we really don't know very much about it at all.

About a Soul slipping in and out, on April 4, 2015, the C's said that a Soul can get kicked out of the body, indicating that someone who has made poor choices can 'have a Soul', but that Soul isn't plugged in, or something like that.
Q: (L) Okay. Well, that’s enough of that. I have another question here. The other question that people were a little curious about on the forum that I noticed was: they wanted to know at what age or stage of development does the soul of an individual enter into the body of a baby that’s about to be born?

A: It cannot be set in stone; remember that about half of all babies never house individualized souls. In some cases it can be very early, and others, as late as early adulthood.

Q: (Pierre) Wow.

(Galatea) So I guess they’re waiting around the body’s frequency to change.

(L) So, is that true? A soul can be hanging around, and there’s, say for example, a body that’s close to the frequency they need, but not quite, and they have to wait until something happens or changes?

A: Yes


Q: (L) What can change frequency?

(Perceval) Experience.

(Pierre) Knowledge.

(L) Yeah, puberty, thought, experience.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Perspectives change via experience I think.

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) Awareness of something?

(L) All kinds of things can change frequency. talked about things like vaccinations and things changing the frequency, which causes negative potentials. Does that factor into this process?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) Can a soul literally get kicked out of a body if the frequency is not matching the soul?

A: Yes


Q: (Galatea) You can be made into a soulless monster eventually!

A: Yes

Q: (Chu) And technology would have the same effects as we’ve seen…

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) Is that why there are these people who go for operations and then they wake up with a different personality or speaking a different language…?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) For an individual, when the soul attaches to the body or leaves, is it noticeable?

(Perceval) That’s what I just said.

(Chu) Yeah, sometimes.

A: Sometimes. The individual may notice inside or an observer may notice.

But then, does an OP eventually graduate to an individuated Soul? Or are they just stuck as OPs for all of eternity? Is there a process here that is the reverse of soul-smashing - soul-making?

If OPs can graduate, how do they do so? This would imply that all OPs are not created equally. Some would be in the process of leaving the Soul pool by learning lessons here, making good choices and beginning to connect with the higher centres, the Light, the Creative Principle. It could be that many OPs are currently in the process of becoming individuals. So there may not be a simple 'OP' or 'Souled' distinction, but rather a continuum of 'enSouledness' with many parameters.
 
I think it matters because it's Knowledge of reality. I like these kinds of questions because we're always talking about the Soul - but I'm not sure any of us really knows what it is. It's one of those perennial concepts like Beauty or Truth that seems to escape definition when we try to describe it.

We've started getting insight into some of the many Soul possibilities, though - what it does, and its complexity. By way of comparison, I think it's kinda like we're in the same stage of Soul research as occurred during the first days of studying genetics. Like Mendel and his peas, we know something is going on here, but we really don't know very much about it at all.

About a Soul slipping in and out, on April 4, 2015, the C's said that a Soul can get kicked out of the body, indicating that someone who has made poor choices can 'have a Soul', but that Soul isn't plugged in, or something like that.


But then, does an OP eventually graduate to an individuated Soul? Or are they just stuck as OPs for all of eternity? Is there a process here that is the reverse of soul-smashing - soul-making?

If OPs can graduate, how do they do so? This would imply that all OPs are not created equally. Some would be in the process of leaving the Soul pool by learning lessons here, making good choices and beginning to connect with the higher centres, the Light, the Creative Principle. It could be that many OPs are currently in the process of becoming individuals. So there may not be a simple 'OP' or 'Souled' distinction, but rather a continuum of 'enSouledness' with many parameters.
A little bit of Ra (Law of one):

Session 48
April 22, 1981

QUESTIONER: Thank you. Let's take as an example an entity who, before birth, is high enough on the priority list for positive polarization and possible readiness for harvest at the end of this cycle. I would like to be able to follow the complete cycle of its experience before incarnation: which body is activated, what is the process by which it incarnates, how the third-density physical body is activated, what is the process as the body passes through this density and the catalysts act upon it, the process of death, and how the various bodies are activated, so that the circuit is completed from a point before incarnation. I would like to walk through the process of incarnation and death; in short, a cycle of incarnation in this density. Would that be possible?

RA: I am Ra. There is great distortion in your question, for it assumes that creations are similar. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own activation patterns and its own rhythms for awakening. The important thing in the harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex, whose relative importance should be noted. We understand the central idea of your question, and we will give a very general answer, emphasizing the little significance of such arbitrary generalizations.
Let's say that before incarnation, the entity dwells in the appropriate place in time/space. The true color of that place will depend on the entity's needs. For example, Wandering entities that have green, blue, or indigo at the core of their mind/body/spirit complex will rest in that place.
Entering into incarnation requires the activation of the indigo ray or etheric body, as this is "the form-giver." The young or small physical mind/body/spirit complex has all seven energy centers in potential before the birth process. Likewise, there are time/space analogies between these energy centers, which correspond to the seven energy centers in each of the seven true color densities. Thus, in the microcosm, all the experience that has been prepared exists; it is as if the baby contained the universe.
The activation patterns of a high-priority entity undoubtedly advance with some rapidity to the level of the green ray, which is the springboard to the primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating the primary blue energy, for it requires something that is in short supply among you; that is, honesty. The blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with others. Having accepted that an entity suitable or practically suitable for harvesting works from this springboard of the green ray, it can be initially proposed that the experiences of the remainder of the incarnation will be centered on the activation of the primary blue ray of freely engaged communication, the indigo ray of freely shared intelligent energy, and, if possible, advancing through this gateway, on penetrating the intelligent infinity of the violet ray. This may manifest itself through a certain sense of the sacred or holy nature of creations and daily activities.
Upon the death of the body complex, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately return, once conscious of its state, to the form-creating indigo body and remain there until the next suitable placement occurs.
And here we have the anomaly of harvesting, for the entity will transfer its indigo body to the manifestation of the violet ray as seen in the true yellow color. This is intended to test the entity's suitability for harvesting. Once this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will return to the indigo body and situate itself in the correct true color location of space/time and time/space, at which point the necessary healing and learning/teaching are completed, and the needs of the next incarnation are determined.

QUESTIONER: Who oversees the determination of incarnation needs and establishes priority for it?

RA: I am Ra. This question has two answers.
First, there are beings who are directly under the supervision of the Guardians, responsible for the incarnation patterns of those who incarnate automatically; that is, without having become individually aware of the process of spiritual evolution. You may call such beings "angels," if you prefer. They are, let's say, "local," or from your own planetary sphere.
Vibrational priority is similar to placing varying degrees of liquids in the same container. Some will rise to the top, while others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities follow one another. As the harvest approaches, those that harbor the greatest amount of light and love will be at the forefront, so to speak, of the incarnation experience, thanks to their very nature, and without the need for supervision.
When the entity becomes aware of the mechanism for spiritual evolution within its entire mind/body/spirit complex, it will arrange and locate the lessons and entities necessary for maximum growth and expression of polarity in the incarnation experience before the forgetting process occurs. The only disadvantage of this total free will of the priority entities choosing the form their incarnation experiences will take is that some entities try to learn so much during incarnation that the intensity of the catalyst disorganizes the polarized entity, and consequently, the experience is not as useful as intended.

QUESTIONER: A comparison might be that of a student who enrolls in more courses than they are able to assimilate during the time they are taught. Is that correct?

RA: I am Ra. That's right.

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So if you are not aware of your state, you are in a dream state, similar to the dream we know.

I think so.
 
Vibrational priority is similar to placing varying degrees of liquids in the same container. Some will rise to the top, while others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities follow one another. As the harvest approaches, those that harbor the greatest amount of light and love will be at the forefront, so to speak, of the incarnation experience, thanks to their very nature, and without the need for supervision.
I think this can be related to the Op, the soul pool, and the progression toward the individualized soul path.

And I believe that the process of the second death occurs to all souls (Op and individualized soul) after the cessation of each incarnation.

Of course, all of this is hypothetical.
 
Thank's to C 's ,Laura and all her team for session!

Q: (L) So another one, sleeping. When they're sleeping, why are they sleeping?

A: Recoup soul energy to enable them to face the difference between what they expected and what actually is.

Q: (L) So in general, it would behoove people to have reasonable expectations about what it's like to pass over to the other side, to die, to go to the other space. Is that it? Because then they wouldn't spend time sleeping.

A: Yes.
Curios one...just couple few days ago I was listening to a story, this story was transmitted by the medium Chico Xavier, it is about a soul that took 300 years to realize that it had passed away, Chico Xavier relates that he found himself in a type of hyperpsychic bubble where each day he lived his life as he used to live it when he was alive. After 300 years he began to realize that his environment was fading away little by little and he began to doubt ... it was there that he realized that he had died and began to leave that psychic bubble, is this was C's mean to be seeping? I mean i know there is no time in 5D but i just realize that ppl has very distorted belief about what dying is about, perhaps sleeping is about to reconfigured about our belief what is happen before we pass away...
 
I decided to take the natural version Berberine per Laura's recommendation & have been taking it since the session

Very good product but you have to be careful and observe how your body react to it. (as for many other products)

I have taken berberine for many months and I had to stop because my body was not anymore able to assimilate it and my stools were very black and in the form of diarrhea.
 
Thanks so much Laura, Andromeda and to all the team for another grteat session.

And most of all, thanks for sharing with us. :hug2:
Ditto. Sorry I missed it. I think old age is catching up to me. Nevertheless, it was a real pleasure to read the session. It's mind-bending that we have access through the Fellowship- more pointedly Laura et al- to the Cees.
And thanks to @Ryan for asking how Liam is making out on the other side
GREAT SESSION FOR SURE! :-D:cool::cool2:
 
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