Coming back to the question of what it will feel like suddenly finding yourself in 4th density, it may be worth considering what exactly the C's meant when they spoke of being like Alice when she went through the looking glass:
As to exactly what "through the looking glass means", I found this quote from Raymond McGuire on line:
The question is, did Lewis Carroll have such a "looking glass" experience himself and, if so, did he use that experience within his book? The answer may be yes.
Carroll was allegedly a member of a Victorian English secret society called the Orphic Circle. The Circle was led by an English aristocrat, Lord Edward Bulwer-Lytton, who happened to be the Colonial Secretary in Benjamin Disraeli's Conservative government. The group also contained such other luminaries as Charles Dickens (an active spiritualist), Sir Richard Burton (a famous English explorer) as well as the Prime Minister Sir Benjamin Disraeli, who like Carroll, Dickens and Bulwer-Lytton was an author (one of the characters in his 1844 book Coningsby is meant to be based on the banker Lionel de Rothschild, the "hidden hand" behind the British throne who bankrolled the Crimean War).
Bulwer-Lytton was a noted author as well and his book Vril: The Power of the Coming Race would be a great inspiration to the German Thule Society and later the Nazis. The book also popularised the Hollow Earth Theory. The main character in the book finds his way into a subterranean world occupied by beings, the Vril-ya, who seem to resemble angels [4th density?] and are the descendants of an antediluvian civilisation called the Ana [MJF: Hmmm... sounds a bit like the Mesopotamian Anu, the leader of the Anunnaki, to me}, who live in networks of subterranean caverns linked by tunnels. Originally surface dwellers, the Vril-ya fled underground thousands of years ago to escape a massive flood and gained greater power by facing and dominating the harsh conditions of the Earth. Their society is a technologically supported Utopia, chief among their tools being an "all-permeating fluid" called "Vril", a latent source of energy that the spiritually elevated hosts are able to master through training of their will, to a degree that depends on their hereditary constitution [a reference to special bloodlines perhaps?]. This mastery gives them access to an extraordinary force that can be controlled at will.
When you consider what the C's have told us about the underworld civilisation called the Nation of the Third Eye who are the descendants of Atlantean Aryans who went underground over 14,000 years ago, i.e., before the Deluge in 10,800 BC, then you have to wonder whether like the Thule Society and the Antareans in the 20th century, Bulwer-Lytton had some sort of an encounter with the Nation of the Third Eye, which inspired him to write his book. Consider here what the C's had to say about the Nation of the Third Eye:
Carroll was allegedly a member of a Victorian English secret society called the Orphic Circle. The Circle was led by an English aristocrat, Lord Edward Bulwer-Lytton, who happened to be the Colonial Secretary in Benjamin Disraeli's Conservative government. The group also contained such other luminaries as Charles Dickens (an active spiritualist), Sir Richard Burton (a famous English explorer) as well as the Prime Minister Sir Benjamin Disraeli, who like Carroll, Dickens and Bulwer-Lytton was an author (one of the characters in his 1844 book Coningsby is meant to be based on the banker Lionel de Rothschild, the "hidden hand" behind the British throne who bankrolled the Crimean War).
Bulwer-Lytton was a noted author as well and his book Vril: The Power of the Coming Race would be a great inspiration to the German Thule Society and later the Nazis. The book also popularised the Hollow Earth Theory. The main character in the book finds his way into a subterranean world occupied by beings, the Vril-ya, who seem to resemble angels [4th density?] and are the descendants of an antediluvian civilisation called the Ana [MJF: Hmmm... sounds a bit like the Mesopotamian Anu, the leader of the Anunnaki, to me}, who live in networks of subterranean caverns linked by tunnels. Originally surface dwellers, the Vril-ya fled underground thousands of years ago to escape a massive flood and gained greater power by facing and dominating the harsh conditions of the Earth. Their society is a technologically supported Utopia, chief among their tools being an "all-permeating fluid" called "Vril", a latent source of energy that the spiritually elevated hosts are able to master through training of their will, to a degree that depends on their hereditary constitution [a reference to special bloodlines perhaps?]. This mastery gives them access to an extraordinary force that can be controlled at will.
When you consider what the C's have told us about the underworld civilisation called the Nation of the Third Eye who are the descendants of Atlantean Aryans who went underground over 14,000 years ago, i.e., before the Deluge in 10,800 BC, then you have to wonder whether like the Thule Society and the Antareans in the 20th century, Bulwer-Lytton had some sort of an encounter with the Nation of the Third Eye, which inspired him to write his book. Consider here what the C's had to say about the Nation of the Third Eye:
The hero of Bulwer-Lytton's book discovers that the Vril-ya have great telepathic and other parapsychological abilities, such as being able to transmit information [telepathy], get rid of pain, and put others to sleep [hypnosis]. Interestingly, the C's have told us that the bi-density beings who form the Nation of the Third Eye are, like the Vril-ya, psychic projectors who can place thoughts directly into surface dwellers minds:
Perhaps Bulwer-Lytton, like Gene Roddenberry a century later, was inspired by Thor's Pantheum when writing his book but it is uncanny how accurately his book reflects what the C's have said about the Nation of the Third Eye. It is also worth noting here that Gene Roddenberry was a Rosicrucian, being a long term member of AMORC. Bulwer-Lytton was also considered in his time to be the leading Rosicrucian in England, although he always denied this publicly. However, his 1841 book Zanoni, alluded to deep Rosicrucian mysteries regarding the four elements, secrets that only initiated Rosicrucians have the power to reveal and which enable them to attain the ultimate goal: the discovery of the Elixir of life and the attainment of immortality and eternal youth. This mention of the Elixir of Life makes me think of the medieval alchemists and their quest to transmute base metal into gold through the Philosopher's Stone and also what the C's had to say about monoatomic gold:
*Given that Abraham/Moses (an Egyptian prince and High Priest who no doubt was acquainted with Egyptian alchemical secrets) forced the rebellious Israelites to ingest powdered gold made from the smelted down Golden Calf, one has to wonder if the C's could have had the Israelites of the Exodus in mind here.
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These references to alchemy and the Elixir of Life connect us with the mysterious enclave of alchemists in the Pyrenees who seem to possess the secret to longevity of life given what the C's said about the famous 14th century French alchemist Nicolas Flamel:
As a leading Rosicrucian, could Bulwer-Lytton have been aware of the enclave of alchemists and the powers associated with monoatomic gold?
There is another possibility though and that is that Bulwer-Lytton may have received the information about the Vril-ya (the Nation of the Third Eye) through channelling sessions conducted by the Orphic Circle, just as the Thule Society did when they were in contact with the 4D STS Antareans:
There is another possibility though and that is that Bulwer-Lytton may have received the information about the Vril-ya (the Nation of the Third Eye) through channelling sessions conducted by the Orphic Circle, just as the Thule Society did when they were in contact with the 4D STS Antareans:
If this was the case, such contact may have occurred during channelling sessions (using trance mediums) conducted by the Orphic Circle at which Lewis Carroll may have been present. It should be noted that the Orphic Circle (named after the Greek mythic figure of Orpheus who descended into the underworld in search of his lover) also used sacred mirrors at their sessions perhaps like the 'Spirit Mirror' the 16th century English magus Dr John Dee used in his scrying sessions, which was presented to him by King Phillip II of Spain in gratitude for his services as an astrologer to the king and his wife, Queen Mary I of England. This mirror of polished obsidian, which is now held in the British Museum's collection, was allegedly an Aztec artefact brought back to Spain from Mexico (see: 'Spirit mirror' used by 16th-century occultist John Dee came from the Aztec Empire). This in turn makes me think of what the C's said about John Dee and his encounter with angels:
This raises the possibility that the Orphic Circle may have made contact with fourth density in a similar fashion to John Dee by using sacred spirit mirrors. If Lewis Carroll was present at such a session, what he saw could perhaps have inspired him to write Alice Through the Looking Glass. We should also take into account here that Lewis Carroll was a brilliant mathematician who was a strict algebraist and had no time for new fangled mathematics such as quaternions invented by his contemporary William Hamilton and used by James Clerk Maxwell in his original Electromagnetic Theory before it was gutted by Oliver Heaviside post Maxwell's death. As the C's said:
It is curious to note that in his book Through the Looking Glass, Lewis introduced the characters of the identical twins Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb, which the C's seemed to link with the matter and antimatter universes in the extract shown below:
This makes me wonder whether Lewis may have been aware of an antimatter universe, a concept which I believe Clerk Maxwell accepted, as he did a dynamic aether. As the C's said in another session:
Curious then that the C's should recently point Ark to Clifford algebra in the 29 March 2025 session as regards Ark's quest for a Unified Field Theory:
However, returning to the subject of psychomantiums, the C's had more to say about their use in other sessions:
*The well known phrase "life is but a dream" suggests that our entire lives are like a series of warped, unreliable memories similar to a dream. The origins of this phrase are not known, but it has been popularised by the nursey rhyme "Row Row Row Your Boat". Interestingly, Lewis Carroll wrote a poem titled "Life is but a Dream", which explores the logic and illogic of dreams and life. The poem juxtaposes the brevity of childhood with the enduring nature of imagination, mirroring themes found in Carroll's "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland". The enigmatic final line - Life, what is it but a dream? - questions the nature of reality, suggesting that life itself may be an illusion.
Indeed, in Through the Looking Glass, the twin brothers Tweedledum and Tweedledee draw Alice's attention to the Red King—sleeping under a nearby tree — and provoke her with idle philosophical banter that she is but an imaginary figure in his dreams. This idea ties in with the simulation hypothesis which proposes that what one experiences as the real world is actually a simulated reality, such as a computer simulation. In turn, this hypothesis ties in with something the C's once said in the transcripts:
Indeed, in Through the Looking Glass, the twin brothers Tweedledum and Tweedledee draw Alice's attention to the Red King—sleeping under a nearby tree — and provoke her with idle philosophical banter that she is but an imaginary figure in his dreams. This idea ties in with the simulation hypothesis which proposes that what one experiences as the real world is actually a simulated reality, such as a computer simulation. In turn, this hypothesis ties in with something the C's once said in the transcripts:
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This last comment by the C's brings me back to Lewis Carroll's Alice Through the Looking Glass [Mirror]. Could Carroll have been given a view to "many vistas" by seeing things through a psychomantium at sessions held by the Orphic Circle. If so, did he then try to encapsulate what he may have learned from these sessions into his two Alice books, which reflected the weird things he may have glimpsed at 4th density after having gone down the rabbit hole so to speak? Think here, for example of how Alice shrinks after drinking a potion in Alice in Wonderland, which could be an attempt to reflect the nature of variable physicality in 4th density.
At the beginning of the book Alice wonders what life on the other side of the mirror may be like:
It is a curious feature that people who have had encounters with fairy folk (who are 4D beings) often speak of encountering them in a mist, which suggests they may have found themselves in 4th density when experiencing these encounters.
As to living on the 'other side of the mirror', this phrase brings to mind what the C's once said about the ancient Etruscans of Italy, who were the predecessors of the Romans.
In what way could the Etruscans have lived on the other side of the mirror? Could they have had a close connection with 4th density perhaps and specifically to the subterranean Nation of the Third Eye?
Mount Musinè, near the city of Turin in Italy, has been the site of several notable modern UFO encounters but UFO incidents there appear to stretch back over thousands of years. Perhaps one of the most world-changing UFO incidents that occurred near there was that of the Roman Emperor Constantine who claimed to see a “cross in the sky” appear in the heavens on the night prior to the pivotal Battle of Milvian Bridge, which is in the region of Mount Musine. According to this legendary account – one which was seemingly witnessed by many of his soldiers too – Constantine would “swear his allegiance” to the cross in return for victory the following day. With victory secured, Constantine ensured that the Roman Empire would henceforth embrace Christianity as the state religion.
The persistence of UFO sightings in this area, which sits on the famous St Michael ley line, has led some UFO researchers to propose that the Susa Valley, and specifically Mt. Musinè, may be the site of an underground alien base. This may perhaps seems far fetched but then the C's have recently confirmed that Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, another location that is linked to long standing paranormal phenomena, is the site of an underground 4D STS base.
I don't know whether the Etruscans ever had a major settlement in the area (there are certainly ancient ruins in the vicinity some dating back to at least the Late Bronze Age circa 1700 BC) before the Romans occupied it and built the city of Turin but the American researcher William Henry has claimed that the Romans destroyed a technologically advanced civilisation that was already established there. Insofar as I am aware, he has failed to produce any evidence to support this claim but, if we take it at face value, is it possible that the 4D Nation of the Third Eye may have given refuge to local Etruscans fleeing the marauding Romans within their underground base in the same way they would do in Antarctica in the 1940's for a large group of defeated Nazis? If so, could it make some sense of the enigmatic comments the C's made about the Etruscans in the following extract from the transcripts:
Mount Musinè, near the city of Turin in Italy, has been the site of several notable modern UFO encounters but UFO incidents there appear to stretch back over thousands of years. Perhaps one of the most world-changing UFO incidents that occurred near there was that of the Roman Emperor Constantine who claimed to see a “cross in the sky” appear in the heavens on the night prior to the pivotal Battle of Milvian Bridge, which is in the region of Mount Musine. According to this legendary account – one which was seemingly witnessed by many of his soldiers too – Constantine would “swear his allegiance” to the cross in return for victory the following day. With victory secured, Constantine ensured that the Roman Empire would henceforth embrace Christianity as the state religion.
The persistence of UFO sightings in this area, which sits on the famous St Michael ley line, has led some UFO researchers to propose that the Susa Valley, and specifically Mt. Musinè, may be the site of an underground alien base. This may perhaps seems far fetched but then the C's have recently confirmed that Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, another location that is linked to long standing paranormal phenomena, is the site of an underground 4D STS base.
I don't know whether the Etruscans ever had a major settlement in the area (there are certainly ancient ruins in the vicinity some dating back to at least the Late Bronze Age circa 1700 BC) before the Romans occupied it and built the city of Turin but the American researcher William Henry has claimed that the Romans destroyed a technologically advanced civilisation that was already established there. Insofar as I am aware, he has failed to produce any evidence to support this claim but, if we take it at face value, is it possible that the 4D Nation of the Third Eye may have given refuge to local Etruscans fleeing the marauding Romans within their underground base in the same way they would do in Antarctica in the 1940's for a large group of defeated Nazis? If so, could it make some sense of the enigmatic comments the C's made about the Etruscans in the following extract from the transcripts:
On a sobering note to finish with, Bulwyer-Lytton ended his book Vril: The Power of the Coming Race by having the hero warn that in time the Vril-ya will run out of habitable space underground and will claim the surface of the Earth, destroying mankind in the process, if necessary.
Well we know that the Orions wish to control mankind after the transition to 4th density and to replace most of us with their new hybrids:
Well we know that the Orions wish to control mankind after the transition to 4th density and to replace most of us with their new hybrids:
. So, is there any other dynastic struggle that occurred in the appropriate timeframe, which saw a struggle out of sequence? Well yes there is and this involved the culmination of the War of the Roses, a period of political instability and periodic open civil war in England during the second half of the 15th century, which paved the way first for the Tudors and then for the Scottish Stuarts to replace the previous ruling dynasty in England, the Plantagenets. 
