Session 26 April 2025

I just saw grass-fed beef in Target today for $7.99. Do you have Aldi's or Trader Joe's where you are?
Yes, Aldi is the most affordable option so this is where I do most of my grocery shopping. I haven’t looked at their meats in a very long time, so I will do that.

Just do a full budget and priceshop, i actually ended up saving more eating meat like that
This has crossed my mind. I will look into it!

I noticed two mayor things, bowel movements and bowel obstruction were very unproblematic, I've had constipation all my life so it wasn't that strange to have infrequent movements and less amount, having less waste to dispose, I assume.
!!! Yes, I can actually attest to this. I have horrible digestion, IBS, etc. The times that I’ve switched to meat-focused diets, these problems immediately seem to disappear. In fact, it’s extremely frustrating, knowing that we can be healthier so simply and easily and still having to navigate so many obstacles.

For me, ③ was the decisive factor that led me to completely eliminate sugar and sweets. At the same time, I also started a meat-based diet. What made it possible was the pain. At the end of 2017, I fully understood what overeating sugar and sweets had brought me. I also realized that it was difficult for me to control it in moderation. At that time, with the knowledge I had accumulated until then, my past experiences, and the decisive pain, along with the strong will it awakened in me, I began a meat-based diet and simultaneously gave up sweets. Completely.
I’m so glad you were able to stop eating sugar! Keep cultivating a strong mindset♥️
 
Mary Settegast's research makes a connection between the very ancient world and how it leads to the Mesopotamia civilization. Eventually that leads to the Yahweh business, the god of materialism.

More info on this thread:


This is also good to keep in mind:


Although this is more like a macro-myth, it is also related:



With the above in mind, here are some Settegast's excerpts:

When Zarathustra Spoke



From "Plato The Prehistorian" by Settegast:



More related excerpts from "The Origins of the World's Mythologies" by Witzel and from "Dawn and Twilight of Zoroastrianism", here:

Thank you for your comprehensive response. There is a lot to digest in there.

The Taş Tepeler civilisation was, of course, much older than the Çatal Höyük civilisation and the Indo-Aryan civilisations that followed, as referred to above in your post. Since the Taş Tepeler civilisation seems to have been a civilisation that emerged soon after the Great Flood, its philosophy would most probably have reflected the cosmology and the belief systems of the Atlanteans who were a high tech society more advanced than our own, which almost certainly had a good working knowledge of hyperdimensional physics. No doubt some of this Atlantean scientific knowledge was subsequently incorporated into the mythology of these later civilisations who lost sight of the original scientific nature of the knowledge that had now been mythologised. The American writer Joseph Farrell certainly espouses this view and it would explain why groups such as the Nazis took a close interest in the writings of ancient cultures such as those of the Vedas wherein they sought to rediscover the lost scientific knowledge imbedded within the texts.

Where Laura states:​

"So it seems to me that these very ancient myths may preserve some ideas of what "really happened" and, of course, the death of primal man and the primal bull could represent an early cataclysm where most of life on earth was destroyed. For those who have gone through the book about Prehistoric Earth that I've mentioned elsewhere, you will notice that each "era" is more or less ended by a "Great Dying", following which all the types and species of plant and animal life is dramatically changed and expanded. So this might be the idea that is preserved in these myths: that extinction events are used by 4D engineers to "make all things new" as in a whole new experimental phase."

I do wonder if some of the islands in the western Pacific may have been used as test laboratories by 4D engineers for the trialling of new species of hominids judging from this latest discovery in the Philippines, which follows the earlier discovery of Homo floresiensis in Indonesia:
Homo luzonensis is an ancient human species discovered in the Philippines.©Image by geralt via Pixabay

See:

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The discovery of Homo luzonensis has added another intriguing branch to the human evolutionary tree. Found in Callao Cave on the island of Luzon in the Philippines, this species was first identified from just 13 fossils, including finger and toe bones, teeth, and a leg bone from a juvenile. These remains, dated to at least 130,000 years ago, suggest that H. luzonensis was small in stature, with some estimates placing its height below 1.2 metres. However, with so few fossils, much about this species, including its brain size, remains a mystery.

Scientists have debated whether H. luzonensis should be classified as a new species, with some suggesting it could be related to Homo floresiensis, another miniature human species found in Indonesia. This raises questions about island miniaturisation, where isolated environments lead to smaller body sizes. Notably, H. luzonensis possessed curved fingers and toes, which may have been adaptations for tree climbing, further complicating our understanding of its place in the human family tree.

The fossils of H. luzonensis were discovered after researchers returned to Callao Cave, inspired by the unexpected finding of H. floresiensis. Initially, the cave had not revealed any significant discoveries, but upon digging deeper, scientists uncovered human remains, suggesting ancient humans reached Luzon through sea crossings. This challenges the long-held belief that early humans lacked seafaring abilities. The evolution of these humans in Southeast Asia now suggests that multiple human species lived in the region at the same time, including Denisovans and Homo erectus.

Ongoing research aims to uncover more about the life and extinction of H. luzonensis, but much is still unknown. While fossil evidence of modern humans in the Philippines dates back 40,000–50,000 years, it’s uncertain if the arrival of Homo sapiens contributed to the extinction of H. luzonensis. Only further discoveries of ancient human remains in Luzon and other islands in Southeast Asia will help resolve the mystery of this elusive ancient relative.

 
For me, the C's answer did seem a little ambiguous since when we think of ancient pyramids we tend to think of those built on the Giza Plateau. However, your alternative proposal is logical and fits in very nicely with the timing of the Great Flood:

Q: (L) Did an event of this type take place at the time of the flood of Noah?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many years ago did the flood of Noah occur?


A: 12,656. (i.e., 10,662 B.C.)

The C's said that the dating of the construction of Göbekli Tepe, based on radiocarbon dating, was off by about a thousand years, meaning it was built circa 10,700. This is only 38 years out from the date they gave for the Flood. What this suggests is that Göbekli Tepe was built fairly soon after the Flood by Atlantean survivors who would seem to have regrouped there. This fits in well with the Noah legend since the Ark is meant to have landed in that general region of Turkey (formerly Armenia) according to the Bible.

What people may not appreciate though is that Göbekli Tepe is only one of several similar sites in that particular region of Turkey (I think Andrew Collins mentions that there are now up to 32 sites comprising the Taş Tepeler civilisation, which could have supported a population of several hundred thousand people) including Karahan Tepe, which has been yielding incredible archaeological finds. I am grateful to Liliea
for bringing this to our attention in her earlier post (Session 26 April 2025) as well as the work of Andrew Collins, which I also quoted in my previous post since Collins is the only person that I am aware of who has linked the construction of the Giza Pyramid complex with the builders of the Taş Tepeler complexes.

I recall that Michael B-C in his excellent thread on Göbekli Tepe mentioned that there seems to have been a dark side to the rituals that may have been conducted at Göbekli Tepe by the priestly caste. It is interesting that early on in the sessions with the C's, Laura noted that there seems to have been a clear philosophical division between the groups of people who built the pyramids and those who built stone circles such as Stonehenge during the Megalithic/Neolithic ages. This may have reflected the philosophical differences between the Sons of Belial and the Sons of the Law of One, as referred to by Edgar Cayce in some of his trance sessions touching upon Atlantis. Perhaps the two groups united for a while for reasons of survival and worked together, subsequently splitting and going their separate ways over the course of time. This proposition may be backed up by what the C's said in the 22 August 1998 session:
A: Atlantean descendants.

Q: Obviously the Great Pyramid is a marvel of engineering - and Stonehenge is as well - yet the two structures are so dissimilar. The Pyramid presents such a finished and sharp and elegant appearance, and Stonehenge might give a person - of course that is based on how it appears today - a more primitive presentation.

A: Was not originally.

Q: Did they work in conjunction with one another and did the two groups that built them in communication with one another?

A:
No and yes.

Q: Was it two different groups? One with the Stonehenge business and one with the Pyramid business?

A: Offshoots of same group.


Q: Were they antagonistic toward one another or were they friendly toward one another?

A:
No, yes.

The C's answer suggests to me that that the builders of Stonehenge and the builders of the Great Pyramid of Giza would seem to have been offshoots of the group who had built Göbekli Tepe and its associated sites. It is also curious that like the Great Pyramid and Sphinx in Egypt, the authorities in Turkey seem to be preventing a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe for fear of what may be revealed:​

Q: (Joe) Was it an observatory for observing movement of the skies, basically, in anticipation of another...?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And they tried to leave a message to future generations about cyclical catastrophes or periodic...?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) And they succeeded because it's been decoded recently.

(L) Yeah. Somebody's done some really good work decoding it.

(Ryan) Was Gobekli Tepe deliberately buried by later generations?

A: No. Buried to protect it from later generations. See Settegast.

Q: (L) Okay. So that's Mary Settegast and her book, what's the title of her book? Plato Prehistorian. Yeah. And then there was one other she did... When Zarathustra Spoke. Have you read those books, Ryan?

(Ryan) No, they're on my list now.

(L) I see. All right. And then:

(iamthatis) Is there a deliberate effort to prevent a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe?

A: Yes

Q: (iamthatis) If so, why?

A: Will reveal too much.


And when you consider what they have found recently at Karahan Tepe, one can begin to understand why:

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Enclosure at Karahan Tepe
The statue of the peculiar looking man on the right of the photograph stands 2.3 metres tall and is much taller than the famous Urfa Man (see below) that was found at a site only 10 kilometres from Göbekli Tepe and is thought to date to around 9000 BC.​

For those who might want to learn more about the excavations at Karahan Tepe, I attach a link to a YouTube video of Andrew Collins talking with Hugh Newman about his 2024 visit to Karahan Tepe - See:

About 14 minutes into the video, Collins describes how the Turkish authorities prevented him from taking photographs (literally at gunpoint) of the new enclosure at Karahan Tepe, the one which contained the strange looking statue shown above, that had just been opened. Such prohibitive behaviour may be indicative of what the C's are saying about the sensitivity surrounding the excavations of these sites.

As to the C's comment that the site of Göbekli Tepe had been buried to protect it from later generations, can somebody shed light on what Mary Settegast had to say about this matter.
I would like to follow up my earlier post with some thought provoking observations having watched Hugh Newman and Andrew Collins video on the Taş Tepeler civilisation and particularly what has been unearthed at Karahan Tepe since I think it may tie together a number of things the C's have said over the years.

First I would mention the strange figure of the humanoid (perhaps a representation of an Anunnaki or Nephilim giant) who is holding his penis. Could he be masturbating? I say this because I think the much later Egyptian civilisation may have inherited this tradition since I understand that one of the most sacred ceremonies conducted by the pharoah each year was a fertility festival called the Min festival held during the last month of summer that celebrated the pharaoh's rule and was conducted on the shore of the river Nile where
crowds of people would gather around the river and wait for the pharaoh. When the pharaoh arrived by the shore, he would strip down and begin masturbating. The pharaoh would then ejaculate into the river making sure that his semen flowed with the current. After the pharaoh, other men would then come over and release their seed into the river as well. The entire process was believed to have brought more prosperity and blessings to the people by ensuring that the Nile would continue to flow for the next year. . But what was the basis for this overtly sexual ritual? According to one Egyptian creation myth, the world began when the god Atum (whose very name means "to finish") decided one day to masturbate in order to create his two children Shu and Tefnut and then masturbated some more to create everyone and everything else.

However, could this sexual act really have been a representation of the creation of new life when a supernova occurs. I say this because semen when causing impregnation represents the beginning of human life. Similarly, when a large star goes supernova (thus seeing the death or "finish" - think here of Atum - of the old star) the material ejected by the explosion will create new stars and also provide all the metals that will eventually end up embedded within newly formed planets (representing new life) and will also yield hydrogen and oxygen that will combine as water and drift through space eventually seeding the atmospheres of some of these new planets and creating seas and oceans where life may form (see my recent post on the 29 March 2025 thread Session 29 March 2025). So the end of one star becomes the beginning of new stars and with them new planets and the possibility of life.

It is interesting then that High Newman and Andrew Collins focused in their video on one of the enclosures at Karah Tepe, which they believe was deliberately aligned with the constellation of Cygnus and its main star of Deneb at the southern end of the Milky Way Dark Rift and with the stars of Scorpius, whose main star is Antares, at the end of the northern entrance to the Rift, with the Galactic Bulge visible in the centre. However, as Collins points out, the ancients formerly linked the constellation of Scorpio with the snake, a ubiquitous symbol at Göbekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe:

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In the picture above, I would particularly point out the stone bust of a man's head with what appears to be a snake moving up the back of his head. Could this be an early representation perhaps of the cult of the Brotherhood of the Snake, the snake from time immemorial being associated with wisdom? However, the C's linked the Brotherhood of the Snake not with the serpent but with the Lizard beings:
Q: (L) Is this the Brotherhood of the snake Hermes formed in rejection of unity?

A: Hermes did not form it; it was long since in existence.


Q: (L) Who was the originator of the Brotherhood of the Serpent as described in the Bramley book [The Gods of Eden]?

A: Lizard Beings.

And we know that the Lizard beings had been interacting with the Atlanteans before that civilisation's destruction.:
Session 20 October 1994:

Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies?

A: Genes spliced. Slaves of dark forces.

Q: Who are these dark forces?

A: Same.

Q: As what?

A: Brotherhood.

Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various humans?

A: Yes.

Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?

A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.

Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?

A: Slave people controlled by crystal.


But this mention of the Brotherhood brings us back to Egypt again and the Great Pyramid at Giza:
A: You mentioned pyramid, interesting... And what is the geometric one-dimensional figure that corresponds?

Q: (L) Well, the triangle. And, if you have a triangle point up you have 3, joined to a triangle pointing down, you have 3, you have a 33. Is that something like what we are getting at here?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there a connection between the number 33 and the Great Pyramid in Egypt?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is that connection? Is it that the builders of the pyramid participated in this secret society activity?

A: Yes. And what symbol did you see in "Matrix," for Serpents and Grays?

Q: (L) You are talking about the triangle with the Serpent's head in it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we talking in terms of this 33 relating to a group of "aliens," or a group of humans with advanced knowledge and abilities?

A: Either/or.

Q: (L) Is this what has been referred to in the Bramley book [Gods of Eden] as the Brotherhood of the Serpent or Snake?


A: Yes.

So, did the Brotherhood of the Snake operate at Göbekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe and did it subsequently have a hand in the building of the pyramids at Giza?

Returning back to the theme of supernovae and linking this to the Great Pyramid at Giza, Laura made an interesting observation connecting the Great Pyramid to supernovae in the Session dated 5 September 1998:

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?

A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?

A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.

A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

Q: (L) Also, there was a supernova that became the Crab Nebula, which occurred 5,000 years ago, yet was not seen on earth, which was 900 years ago, which happens to be exactly the time period I have been looking at as having been a turning point where seeds were planted that are now bearing fruit. Can you tell us if this supernova that was seen 900 years ago, were there effects from the Supernova that contributed to this state of affairs at the culmination of the Dark Ages, the creation of the Templars and so forth. What were the effects of this supernova that was seen 900 years ago?

A: Excitation of base liquid molecules.

Q: (L) Did this have a physiological effect, or genetic, DNA effect on people?

A: Slight.

Q: (L) What were the pronounced effects that one would have been able to note.
That is microscopic...

A: Growth.

Q: (L) Growth in what sense? Growth and change in the size of people?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Growth in a psychological or mental sense?

A: Close.

Q: (L) What kind of growth specifically?

A: Both.

Q: (L) At the time of that particular supernova, 5,000 years ago, were there any superluminal effects that were felt instantly?

A: Maybe, research and correlate.

Q: (L) Was the Great Pyramid at Giza built and lined up to supernova?

A: Part of the picture.

Q: (L) Were these supernova that occurred at the time of the construction, or that were expected to occur at some point in the future?

A: Both.

Q:
(L) Are supernova in any sense cyclical?

A: In a sense requiring higher senses.

Q: (L) Do supernova create portals to other universes?

A: The doors may be redirected.

Q: (L) Does any of this supernova business have anything to do with the constellation Leo?

A: In a way.

Q: (L) In what way?

A: Through geometric configuration.

Q: (L) What do you mean ‘through geometric configuration?’

A: Status of Trine.

Q: (L) You mentioned the importance of the Horsehead Nebula in relation to the symbol of the Knight. What is the significance of the Horsehead Nebula?

A: Keep up your search, as you are near.


The reference to the 'Horsehead Nebula' here may link us back to the constellation of Scorpio that Andrew Collins believes is connected with the enclosure at Karahan Tepe since this constellation also has a blue horsehead nebula (see below):

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However, the C's also told us that the human race was/is being formed on the planet D'Ankhiar in the constellation of Scorpio:
Q: (L) We were originally seeded somewhere else? Where? Orion? What is the name of that planet?

A: D'Ankhiar. Ankh is ancient symbol of this planet. Is female symbol. Stands for mother planet.


Q: (L) Is this other planet our original home?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is it like back Home?

A: Spent. Cindered. Burned up.

Q: (L) So it's true, you can't go home?


A: Yes.

And
Q: (L) There was an interesting reference in one of the books of the relationship of Orion to Scorpio, that Orion's bow is drawn at Scorpio. And, at one other point, you said that the physical bodies of mankind were molecularized, and ARE being molecularized, on a planet called D'Ankhiar, which is in the constellation Scorpio.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the relationship of Orion to Scorpio? The Orion "bad guys," shooting at Scorpio which is the place of origin of the physical manifestation of the human race...

A: Bad guys?

Q: (L) Forget I said bad guys. "Shooting at Scorpio." Is there any relationship, symbolically, to the fact that the human bodies...

A: It is all interrelated.


It is therefore quite interesting that the constellations of Scorpio and Orion should both contain a horsehead nebula, particularly as the three main pyramids at Giza are aligned to the three belt stars of Orion.

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The Horsehead Nebula in Orion​

Is there any giant star in the constellation of Scorpio that may be close to going supernova and destroy D'Ankhiar? The answer is yes and that star is Antares. Quoting Space.com:

Antares is a red supergiant star that is nearing the end of its life. It is a Class M red supergiant that is indeed headed toward an eventual supernova detonation. At 550 light-years from Earth it would not just disappear though; it would light up like a gigantic flashbulb, probably casting shadows on the ground and certainly being the brightest thing in the night sky." At that time its brightness will rival that of the rest of our galaxy put together,"

So, we have toss-up between Antares and Betelgeuse as to which super red giant will go supernova first. However, we should bear in mind what the C's said here about Betelgeuse:

Q: (Andromeda) Do we want to ask anything else about that? Has Betelgeuse already gone supernova?

A: No.

Q: (Ark) What you mean already? Already when? (L) Like in the past so that we would soon be likely to see it. (Ark) Well, if it went in the past so that we would see it, we would see it, which means it didn't yet went off. (Andromeda) Well, doesn't it take time from the time it goes supernova? (Ark) How many? Like 3000 years. (L) Right, so that's what she means.

A: Who said Betelgeuse was going to go?

Q: (Andromeda) There was an article on SOTT. (Perceval) Oh yeah, but they said that we might see Betelgeuse go maybe this year or the next million years.


Is it even possible that 4D beings can trigger supernovae? If so, it might make sense of Laura's question concerning the Orion "bad guys," (Orion the Hunter with his bow) shooting at Scorpio to trigger a supernova that will manifest the creation of the ancient human race. Backing this up is the fact that the Orions seem to have a planetary base on a planet around Betelgeuse:

Session 16 December 1995:

Q: (L) I received an e-mail from a fellow who experienced something similar to what happened to me which you called an "eclipsing of realities."

A: It was an abduction by cyber-genetic probes
[
Greys?] whose origin, or more correctly, "station," is the 5th planet around Betelgeuse, known as A.Hur in Orion federation 4th density STS.

Q: (L) What was the purpose of this abduction?

A: Screen for compatibility for placement on shune, platter, within Mark Status 3.

Q: (L) What does that mean? Placement on "shune, platter”?

A: It is a demarcation status for compatibility of future "worker" status.


This seems to indicate that red giant stars can support life bearing planets, which means that D'Ankhiar could be orbiting a star like Antares.

These guys think Antares will go supernova in December 2026 -

So, did the builders of Karahan Tepe and the Great Pyramid of Egypt know something about a link between Orion and Scorpio that may have involved supernovae?​

And let us not forget that Giza was formerly known as "Rostau" which means "red cross" (although "Ros" can also mean dew or wisdom) and has a connection with the infamous Rosteem who the C's say now manifest as the Rosicrucians, who themselves seem to have had more than a passing interest in supernovae:

Q: Supposedly, Christian Rosencruetz was initiated by the 'philosophers of Dancar.' I want to know where this blasted place is! Okay, skip it. One of the Rosicrucian manifestos said: 'God has sent messengers and signs in the heavens, namely the new stars in Serpentarius and Cygnus, to show that a great council of the elect is to take place.' What do they mean by a 'great council of the elect?'

A: Pyrenees.

Q: Okay, the purported enclave of the alchemists...
Why was it signified by new stars in Serpentarius and Cygnus? What do they represent?

A:
Novae.


And

Session 5 September 1998:

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?

A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?

A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.


A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

So, we have had groups of people over a span of thousands of years who have been keeping an eye on supernovae for some reason. Could it be that they know that the end is also the beginning?
 
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I would like to follow up my earlier post with some thought provoking observations having watched Hugh Newman and Andrew Collins video on the Taş Tepeler civilisation and particularly what has been unearthed at Karahan Tepe since I think it may tie together a number of things the C's have said over the years.

First I would mention the strange figure of the humanoid (perhaps a representation of an Anunnaki or Nephilim giant) who is holding his penis. Could he be masturbating? I say this because I think the much later Egyptian civilisation may have inherited this tradition since I understand that one of the most sacred ceremonies conducted by the pharoah each year was a fertility festival called the Min festival held during the last month of summer that celebrated the pharaoh's rule and was conducted on the shore of the river Nile where
crowds of people would gather around the river and wait for the pharaoh. When the pharaoh arrived by the shore, he would strip down and begin masturbating. The pharaoh would then ejaculate into the river making sure that his semen flowed with the current. After the pharaoh, other men would then come over and release their seed into the river as well. The entire process was believed to have brought more prosperity and blessings to the people by ensuring that the Nile would continue to flow for the next year. . But what was the basis for this overtly sexual ritual? According to one Egyptian creation myth, the world began when the god Atum (whose very name means "to finish") decided one day to masturbate in order to create his two children Shu and Tefnut and then masturbated some more to create everyone and everything else.

However, could this sexual act really have been a representation of the creation of new life when a supernova occurs. I say this because semen when causing impregnation represents the beginning of human life. Similarly, when a large star goes supernova (thus seeing the death or "finish" - think here of Atum - of the old star) the material ejected by the explosion will create new stars and also provide all the metals that will eventually end up embedded within newly formed planets (representing new life) and will also yield hydrogen and oxygen that will combine as water and drift through space eventually seeding the atmospheres of some of these new planets and creating seas and oceans where life may form (see my recent post on the 29 March 2025 thread Session 29 March 2025). So the end of one star becomes the beginning of new stars and with them new planets and the possibility of life.

It is interesting then that High Newman and Andrew Collins focused in their video on one of the enclosures at Karah Tepe, which they believe was deliberately aligned with the constellation of Cygnus and its main star of Deneb at the southern end of the Milky Way Dark Rift and with the stars of Scorpius, whose main star is Antares, at the end of the northern entrance to the Rift, with the Galactic Bulge visible in the centre. However, as Collins points out, the ancients formerly linked the constellation of Scorpio with the snake, a ubiquitous symbol at Göbekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe:

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In the picture above, I would particularly point out the stone bust of a man's head with what appears to be a snake moving up the back of his head. Could this be an early representation perhaps of the cult of the Brotherhood of the Snake, the snake from time immemorial being associated with wisdom? However, the C's linked the Brotherhood of the Snake not with the serpent but with the Lizard beings:
Q: (L) Is this the Brotherhood of the snake Hermes formed in rejection of unity?

A: Hermes did not form it; it was long since in existence.


Q: (L) Who was the originator of the Brotherhood of the Serpent as described in the Bramley book [The Gods of Eden]?

A: Lizard Beings.

And we know that the Lizard beings had been interacting with the Atlanteans before that civilisation's destruction.:
Session 20 October 1994:

Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies?

A: Genes spliced. Slaves of dark forces.

Q: Who are these dark forces?

A: Same.

Q: As what?

A: Brotherhood.

Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various humans?

A: Yes.

Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?

A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.

Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?

A: Slave people controlled by crystal.


But this mention of the Brotherhood brings us back to Egypt again and the Great Pyramid at Giza:
A: You mentioned pyramid, interesting... And what is the geometric one-dimensional figure that corresponds?

Q: (L) Well, the triangle. And, if you have a triangle point up you have 3, joined to a triangle pointing down, you have 3, you have a 33. Is that something like what we are getting at here?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there a connection between the number 33 and the Great Pyramid in Egypt?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is that connection? Is it that the builders of the pyramid participated in this secret society activity?

A: Yes. And what symbol did you see in "Matrix," for Serpents and Grays?

Q: (L) You are talking about the triangle with the Serpent's head in it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we talking in terms of this 33 relating to a group of "aliens," or a group of humans with advanced knowledge and abilities?

A: Either/or.

Q: (L) Is this what has been referred to in the Bramley book [Gods of Eden] as the Brotherhood of the Serpent or Snake?


A: Yes.

So, did the Brotherhood of the Snake operate at Göbekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe and did it subsequently have a hand in the building of the pyramids at Giza?

Returning back to the theme of supernovae and linking this to the Great Pyramid at Giza, Laura made an interesting observation connecting the Great Pyramid to supernovae in the Session dated 5 September 1998:

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?

A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?

A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.

A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

Q: (L) Also, there was a supernova that became the Crab Nebula, which occurred 5,000 years ago, yet was not seen on earth, which was 900 years ago, which happens to be exactly the time period I have been looking at as having been a turning point where seeds were planted that are now bearing fruit. Can you tell us if this supernova that was seen 900 years ago, were there effects from the Supernova that contributed to this state of affairs at the culmination of the Dark Ages, the creation of the Templars and so forth. What were the effects of this supernova that was seen 900 years ago?

A: Excitation of base liquid molecules.

Q: (L) Did this have a physiological effect, or genetic, DNA effect on people?

A: Slight.

Q: (L) What were the pronounced effects that one would have been able to note.
That is microscopic...

A: Growth.

Q: (L) Growth in what sense? Growth and change in the size of people?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Growth in a psychological or mental sense?

A: Close.

Q: (L) What kind of growth specifically?

A: Both.

Q: (L) At the time of that particular supernova, 5,000 years ago, were there any superluminal effects that were felt instantly?

A: Maybe, research and correlate.

Q: (L) Was the Great Pyramid at Giza built and lined up to supernova?

A: Part of the picture.

Q: (L) Were these supernova that occurred at the time of the construction, or that were expected to occur at some point in the future?

A: Both.

Q:
(L) Are supernova in any sense cyclical?

A: In a sense requiring higher senses.

Q: (L) Do supernova create portals to other universes?

A: The doors may be redirected.

Q: (L) Does any of this supernova business have anything to do with the constellation Leo?

A: In a way.

Q: (L) In what way?

A: Through geometric configuration.

Q: (L) What do you mean ‘through geometric configuration?’

A: Status of Trine.

Q: (L) You mentioned the importance of the Horsehead Nebula in relation to the symbol of the Knight. What is the significance of the Horsehead Nebula?

A: Keep up your search, as you are near.


The reference to the 'Horsehead Nebula' here may link us back to the constellation of Scorpio that Andrew Collins believes is connected with the enclosure at Karahan Tepe since this constellation also has a blue horsehead nebula (see below):

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However, the C's also told us that the human race was/is being formed on the planet D'Ankhiar in the constellation of Scorpio:
Q: (L) We were originally seeded somewhere else? Where? Orion? What is the name of that planet?

A: D'Ankhiar. Ankh is ancient symbol of this planet. Is female symbol. Stands for mother planet.


Q: (L) Is this other planet our original home?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is it like back Home?

A: Spent. Cindered. Burned up.

Q: (L) So it's true, you can't go home?


A: Yes.

And
Q: (L) There was an interesting reference in one of the books of the relationship of Orion to Scorpio, that Orion's bow is drawn at Scorpio. And, at one other point, you said that the physical bodies of mankind were molecularized, and ARE being molecularized, on a planet called D'Ankhiar, which is in the constellation Scorpio.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the relationship of Orion to Scorpio? The Orion "bad guys," shooting at Scorpio which is the place of origin of the physical manifestation of the human race...

A: Bad guys?

Q: (L) Forget I said bad guys. "Shooting at Scorpio." Is there any relationship, symbolically, to the fact that the human bodies...

A: It is all interrelated.


It is therefore quite interesting that the constellations of Scorpio and Orion should both contain a horsehead nebula, particularly as the three main pyramids at Giza are aligned to the three belt stars of Orion.

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The Horsehead Nebula in Orion​

Is there any giant star in the constellation of Scorpio that may be close to going supernova and destroy D'Ankhiar? The answer is yes and that star is Antares. Quoting Space.com:

Antares is a red supergiant star that is nearing the end of its life. It is a Class M red supergiant that is indeed headed toward an eventual supernova detonation. At 550 light-years from Earth it would not just disappear though; it would light up like a gigantic flashbulb, probably casting shadows on the ground and certainly being the brightest thing in the night sky." At that time its brightness will rival that of the rest of our galaxy put together,"

So, we have toss-up between Antares and Betelgeuse as to which super red giant will go supernova first. However, we should bear in mind what the C's said here about Betelgeuse:

Q: (Andromeda) Do we want to ask anything else about that? Has Betelgeuse already gone supernova?

A: No.

Q: (Ark) What you mean already? Already when? (L) Like in the past so that we would soon be likely to see it. (Ark) Well, if it went in the past so that we would see it, we would see it, which means it didn't yet went off. (Andromeda) Well, doesn't it take time from the time it goes supernova? (Ark) How many? Like 3000 years. (L) Right, so that's what she means.

A: Who said Betelgeuse was going to go?

Q: (Andromeda) There was an article on SOTT. (Perceval) Oh yeah, but they said that we might see Betelgeuse go maybe this year or the next million years.


Is it even possible that 4D beings can trigger supernovae? If so, it might make sense of Laura's question concerning the Orion "bad guys," (Orion the Hunter with his bow) shooting at Scorpio to trigger a supernova that will manifest the creation of the ancient human race. Backing this up is the fact that the Orions seem to have a planetary base on a planet around Betelgeuse:

Session 16 December 1995:

Q: (L) I received an e-mail from a fellow who experienced something similar to what happened to me which you called an "eclipsing of realities."

A: It was an abduction by cyber-genetic probes
[
Greys?] whose origin, or more correctly, "station," is the 5th planet around Betelgeuse, known as A.Hur in Orion federation 4th density STS.

Q: (L) What was the purpose of this abduction?

A: Screen for compatibility for placement on shune, platter, within Mark Status 3.

Q: (L) What does that mean? Placement on "shune, platter”?

A: It is a demarcation status for compatibility of future "worker" status.


This seems to indicate that red giant stars can support life bearing planets, which means that D'Ankhiar could be orbiting a star like Antares.

These guys think Antares will go supernova in December 2026 -

So, did the builders of Karahan Tepe and the Great Pyramid of Egypt know something about a link between Orion and Scorpio that may have involved supernovae?​

And let us not forget that Giza was formerly known as "Rostau" which means "red cross" (although "Ros" can also mean dew or wisdom) and has a connection with the infamous Rosteem who the C's say now manifest as the Rosicrucians, who themselves seem to have had more than a passing interest in supernovae:

Q: Supposedly, Christian Rosencruetz was initiated by the 'philosophers of Dancar.' I want to know where this blasted place is! Okay, skip it. One of the Rosicrucian manifestos said: 'God has sent messengers and signs in the heavens, namely the new stars in Serpentarius and Cygnus, to show that a great council of the elect is to take place.' What do they mean by a 'great council of the elect?'

A: Pyrenees.

Q: Okay, the purported enclave of the alchemists...
Why was it signified by new stars in Serpentarius and Cygnus? What do they represent?

A:
Novae.


And

Session 5 September 1998:

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?

A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?

A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.


A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

So, we have had groups of people over a span of thousands of years who have been keeping an eye on supernovae for some reason. Could it be that they know that the end is also the beginning?
I wonder .... can the Cs trigger supernovae? and if they could ... would they do that? ... or have they done it already?
 
Thank you so much for doing and sharing another great session.
Great as always! ❤️

Q: (L) So another one, sleeping. When they're sleeping, why are they sleeping?

A: Recoup soul energy to enable them to face the difference between what they expected and what actually is.

Q: (L) So in general, it would behoove people to have reasonable expectations about what it's like to pass over to the other side, to die, to go to the other space. Is that it? Because then they wouldn't spend time sleeping.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And they wouldn't need to recoup soul energy from having all the wrong ideas.

A: Yes.

I found that exchange particularly interesting.
It's a good reminder of how important it is to always be willing to accept the truth as it is, rather than clinging to our illusions.

Apparently it is exhausting for the Soul, that we spend our lives holding on to misconceptions about reality.
Not only that of our surroundings, but also the misconceptions we may have about ourselves.

Sometimes I miss the sweetness of the blue pill, but I immediately remember what the C's said: “Don't cry for the loss of an illusion”.

The truth is that you have to be brave not to close your eyes, but it is necessary.:boat:🏄‍♂️

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Something is not clear to me, so if someone can explain it to me? How can you be in 4D without knowing?
This can be similar to or even milder than when someone dies and doesn't know it. What makes it more difficult is that the person then creates their own reality more easily (that's a problem if the mind is limited by habits and everyday activities - Castaneda would say "the internal dialogue"*).
Some people, when they die, continue with their old habits, live in the same place and think that nothing has changed. We get this information from psychics and those who deal with haunted houses.
The transition to 4th density can be gradual and there is no click and fireworks and alarms to tell us the exact moment. The vibrations gradually increase and from the higher 3D a person comes to the lower part of 4D. So, the student is not a master all of a sudden, there is still a lot to master. One of the things is: how to use the new possibilities.
To illustrate, I once dreamed that I was standing outside my body in front of a meadow near my house. A person was explaining to me in that "dream" how to move in that state, he said to just think of the trees at the end of the meadow. I thought and automatically I found myself there (as if the trees had magnetically attracted me - that is, my consciousness, which went first). It was a way of traveling in astral projection, you don't have to think about how to go or move your legs, just the destination. Although I had this ability, I didn't know it until the person in the dream told me.
So people at the beginning of 4D will probably act and think as if they were in 3D until they learn that they can do otherwise and how to do it.
* “The internal dialogue is what grounds people in the daily world. The world is such and such or so and so, only because we talk to ourselves about its being such and such and so and so. The passageway into the world of shamans opens up after the warrior has learned to shut off his internal dialogue”
― Carlos Castaneda, The Wheel of Time
 
My interpretation of the back head with serpent on it , is , knowledge of alchemy . fwiiw.
You may well be right. All these groups such as the Brotherhood of the Snake, the ancient priesthood of Egypt (including the person we know of as the biblical Moses) with their roots in the Osirians, the Knights Templar and the Rosicrucians to name but a few all seem to have been involved in alchemy.

My understanding is that the Brotherhood of the Snake is the oldest known secret society in the world and has been manipulating events behind the scenes for thousands of years (they could be appreciably older than the Osirians who the C's said were the progenitors of today's Freemasons, whose inception dates back to over 7,500 years ago).

In esoteric circles though, the snake has always been linked with wisdom as seen with the caduceus (see image below), the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology and consequently by Hermes Trismegistus in Greco-Egyptian mythology.

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The biblical Israelites led by Moses also used the symbol of the caduceus save that their caduceus had just the one snake sliding up the rod or pole. As you touched upon in your post, the snake as depicted in the symbol of the caduceus was also adopted by medieval alchemists. However, the image of two entwined snakes may possibly have been intended as an ancient representation of DNA, the double helix, a symbolism thus inherited from a more advanced civilisation, most probably Atlantis.

It will be interesting to see what other symbolism emerges from the archaeological digs currently being conducted in south-east Turkey at Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe and other similar sites, assuming it is not all suppressed by the authorities.
 
Thank you for the session. o(* ̄▽ ̄*)ブ

There is so much happening everywhere all the time that it is hard to keep up, especially when the daily grind get arduous with a crumbling (sabotaged) economy.

The Grok conversation is interesting. As I read it and pondered the hidden depth, I noticed that its solutions and defense from nefarious AI use was to deploy counter measure also based on AI. Its convenient to put oneself on both camp. lol

Anyhow, I will get rubber boots readied and available to avoid some shocking elements.

Stay frosty everyone.
 
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