Session 27 September 2025

[rrraven]

Google Gothenburg magnetic excursion , plenty of papers on it
Hilina Pali is shown in one of the charts posted above

 

[rrraven]

The Lake Mungo geomagnetic excursion | Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. Series A, Mathematical and Physical Sciences https://share.google/UtUnDUsE4eZ2SeX22

 

[Scottie]

When the C's said to get off social media, my first thought was, "Right, for our safety... like people being arrested for retweets in the UK."

My second thought was that maybe there's more to it than that... Getting off social media may be necessary for the protection of our own psychic/psychological health. The "doom-scrolling" and echo chamber effects are getting bad in many cases.

Well, there might be something to that... Everyone IMO needs to read this article on SOTT:

The Behavioral Architect

How Nikita Bier spent a decade perfecting psychological control on teenagers — and now deploys it on everyone at X "Rethink Democracy." That was the tagline for Politify back in 2011. A Berkeley student project that went viral during the...

www.sott.net

It's about Nikita Bier, who is apparently the current "head of product" at X. Excerpt:

This is why it matters. Not because this pattern is new. But because behavioral data harvesting plus infrastructure control equals manufactured reality. And manufactured reality is incompatible with informed consent.

A free people require informed consent. But informed consent requires access to information, ability to verify information, understanding of how decisions affect you, and transparency in systems of power. Bier's entire career has been about destroying all four.

The complexity prevents understanding. The opacity prevents verification. The psychological triggers override rational analysis. The architecture engineers compliance while maintaining the illusion of choice.

You think you're participating. You're being managed.

You think you're being heard. You're being suppressed.

You think you understand the system. It's deliberately incomprehensible.

You think you're making free choices. You're responding to engineered triggers.

IOW, at this point, there is no 'reaching people' on social media - just the illusion of it. Worse yet, active participation in the whole thing makes it worse, not better, and may even lead to screwing with our heads in rather sneaky ways.

How beautiful it would be to create a control system that is so 'perfect', everyone in it believes they aren't being taken in because they're smarter than that - when in reality, the only way not to be taken in is not to participate. As long as everyone is believing SOME lie (big, small, whatever), they're controlled...

 

[Jones]

When the C's said to get off social media, my first thought was, "Right, for our safety... like people being arrested for retweets in the UK."

My second thought was that maybe there's more to it than that... Getting off social media may be necessary for the protection of our own psychic/psychological health. The "doom-scrolling" and echo chamber effects are getting bad in many cases.

Well, there might be something to that... Everyone IMO needs to read this article on SOTT:

The Behavioral Architect

How Nikita Bier spent a decade perfecting psychological control on teenagers — and now deploys it on everyone at X "Rethink Democracy." That was the tagline for Politify back in 2011. A Berkeley student project that went viral during the...

www.sott.net

It's about Nikita Bier, who is apparently the current "head of product" at X. Excerpt:



IOW, at this point, there is no 'reaching people' on social media - just the illusion of it. Worse yet, active participation in the whole thing makes it worse, not better, and may even lead to screwing with our heads in rather sneaky ways.

How beautiful it would be to create a control system that is so 'perfect', everyone in it believes they aren't being taken in because they're smarter than that - when in reality, the only way not to be taken in is not to participate. As long as everyone is believing SOME lie (big, small, whatever), they're controlled...

As I was reading this, had the thought that they will maybe set up a government owned and controlled social media app. That's the only way that banning under 16's makes sense with the above article in mind and how they can influence the younger generation.

 

[Bluegazer]

When the C's said to get off social media, my first thought was, "Right, for our safety... like people being arrested for retweets in the UK."

My second thought was that maybe there's more to it than that... Getting off social media may be necessary for the protection of our own psychic/psychological health. The "doom-scrolling" and echo chamber effects are getting bad in many cases.

And also that this must be associated with the increase in negativity pointed out by C's on August 23 of this year.

A: The extreme negative charge building on your planet.

Since then, social media has become unbearable, constantly polarizing and irritating people. You can no longer stand the flamewars in the comments, the biases, the mixture of truths and lies. It even irritates you to read people who have very good ideas in their analysis of reality, but at some point end up inserting or projecting their own problems into their ideas, and that can be demotivating.

I was reading a Facebook page by a woman with very good political ideas and fairly objective criticism. Until she contacted me via chat and we started talking.

Leaving aside some details, she reached a point where she started talking to me about her personal situation... and by the time I realized it, her proposals were being conditioned by her personal (subjective) experiences. She made comments, for example, about how she would ban live-action movies... because she finds them disgusting and they make her anxious.

Imagine my WTF face...

I'm not talking about a very young woman. I'm talking about someone in her thirties.

People are broken by things that time and the simplest of self-care can heal, and they get caught up in the diabolical game of social media, taking advantage of that to extract the emotional juice...

And in turn, it harms you, also extracting your energy through the exhaustion of the condition itself. Social media has definitely become a toxic, life-sucking swamp, and you don't want to interact with anyone anymore.

 

[Jefferson]

When the C's said to get off social media, my first thought was, "Right, for our safety... like people being arrested for retweets in the UK."

My second thought was that maybe there's more to it than that... Getting off social media may be necessary for the protection of our own psychic/psychological health. The "doom-scrolling" and echo chamber effects are getting bad in many cases.

Well, there might be something to that... Everyone IMO needs to read this article on SOTT:

The Behavioral Architect

How Nikita Bier spent a decade perfecting psychological control on teenagers — and now deploys it on everyone at X "Rethink Democracy." That was the tagline for Politify back in 2011. A Berkeley student project that went viral during the...

www.sott.net

It's about Nikita Bier, who is apparently the current "head of product" at X. Excerpt:



IOW, at this point, there is no 'reaching people' on social media - just the illusion of it. Worse yet, active participation in the whole thing makes it worse, not better, and may even lead to screwing with our heads in rather sneaky ways.

How beautiful it would be to create a control system that is so 'perfect', everyone in it believes they aren't being taken in because they're smarter than that - when in reality, the only way not to be taken in is not to participate. As long as everyone is believing SOME lie (big, small, whatever), they're controlled...

Thank you for articulating this so clearly, Scottie, that sott/substack article is definitely a must-read. I’ve had scattered thoughts about this theme myself but just haven’t managed to put it into words like this.

What stands out to me is how deep the psychological engineering runs. These platforms don’t just “harvest behavioral data” — they feed it back into the system to shape behavior, to guide emotional states, and to sustain engagement. The machinery is invisible, but it works perfectly because it gives us the feeling of agency. You think you’re participating, influencing, doing something when in reality, the system is already steering the outcome, or at minimum just tiring people out.

That’s what makes it so powerful. It isn’t just about what people believe, it’s about convincing them that they’re making a difference inside a structure designed to absorb and redirect all input. The endless scroll, the short bursts of outrage, the irritation (also at the laugh-out-loud emojis from the trolls), the “interaction” that never actually moves anything. All of it keeps people busy while the architecture quietly maintains compliance.

Over time it wears people down. Not through censorship alone, but through exhaustion via constantly pulling attention and emotion into a space where nothing really changes. It’s a psychological loop disguised as participation.

Most of us here strive to keep our intention firmly in mind, knowing we are not there to change things as ‘trying to change things’ can really take a toll on the psyche. It may be an appropriate time, considering the comment by the Cs, to look again at our intentions when on social media and how this intention matches with our overall Aim and purpose, keeping in mind the potential detrimental effects on our psychological hygiene.

 

[axj]

You think you’re participating, influencing, doing something when in reality, the system is already steering the outcome, or at minimum just tiring people out.

There is probably a big difference between "consuming" social media in a mostly passive way and actively sharing insights that can help others who are open towards new perspectives. I think that is why Laura was sharing a lot on Twitter/X until recently.