(A Jay) A number of people across the internet have claimed they have no inner monologue. Similarly, a researcher specializing in inner experience claims that some people never experience inner speech. Both claims, however, rely solely on people's self reports. Is it true that some people never experience inner speech?
A: Yes
Q: (A Jay) If so, why?
A: OP.
Q: (L) Does that mean that they just think in images?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, that's weird. I never heard of that.
(Joe) But do they think at all when they're not actually actively...
A: No
Q: (L) So they don't really think. They're reaction machines.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) It's like a monkey doing back flips in their brain?
(A Jay) Laura, I have a follow up to it. So the researcher was saying that some people have inner speech and some people don't. And similarly, there's a total of five different inner experience: inner voice, inner vision, emotions, sensations or sensory awareness, and also unsymbolized thinking. So they said that the people who don't experience inner speech are OPs. Does that then extend out to the other five methods of inner experience that this researcher talks about?
Q: (L) So name the second inner experience?
(A Jay) Inner visualization.
(L) Okay.
(A Jay) Emotion, sensory awareness and unsymbolized thinking.
A: Emotion is body swarms, not a thinking style.
Q: (L) And what's the next one? Okay, there's inner visualization... Is inner vision... Okay. Well, the question I would have is: Do the people who do not have inner speech have all the others, or do they just have nothing?
(A Jay) Are you asking me?
(L) Yes. You're the one that was researching it.
(A Jay) So it seems like some people who don't experience inner speech do experience some of these other things, although it is not a hundred percent clear to me to what extent there is or is not an overlap. Some people experience all five. Some people seem to lack one or two, but I'm not entirely clear and I haven't read that much yet to know whether it is...
A: Do more research to clarify questions. We are not here to do the work for you.
Q: (L) I mean the C’s have said, talked about emotions and that most emotions that people feel are just chemical. And a lot of it is happening in your gut, which is why you feel it in your gut. It's not a thinking style.
(Niall) Not a thinking style. So that was kind of a comment to the researchers.
(Joe) The problem is that those kind of emotional chemical body swarms give rise to thinking and then action based on them.
(L) Yeah, they definitely do. I mean, that's what Mouravieff and Gurdjieff talked about. People thinking with their emotions or being...
(Joe) Or reacting to emotional stimuli and developing narratives or theories based on them.
(Andromeda) Yeah, or even if they don't have the ability to do that with an internal monologue, they could still react to emotions.
(L) Yeah, so if they're having emotions and they don't have any ability to think with a monologue, like ask themselves...
(Andromeda) Like to talk themselves out of anything!
(L) Yeah. I mean, you got to be able to talk yourself out of stuff. Talk yourself down! [laughter]
(Ryan) Laura, would it be relevant to ask the question: What is the primary difference between the inner experience of an OP and a souled person?
(Joe) It's a bit general.
(L) Yeah. I don't know if you can... I mean, maybe we just got the clue from the previous question, which was the inner monologue maybe. Is that our clue to the primary difference between the inner landscape of an OP and a souled person?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is it more or less the ability to kind of see yourself to have an observer in a certain sense?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Because the inner speech kind of denotes an observer. You're talking to yourself or that one part of you is talking to some other part of you.
(Andromeda) But can OPs do that to any extent as well?
A: No
Q: (Chu) But it's still a rare phenomenon not to have inner monologue, right?
(L) Well, I don't know. We don't know how rare it is. We don't have enough information. I mean, A Jay did us dirty! He didn't have enough information! [laughter]
(A Jay) I've tried to find that number of how many people the researcher has come across that don't have that inner feature and inner monologue and the best number that I can find for him is somewhere between 30 and 50%.
(Chu) Whoa!
(Gaby) Jesus.
(L) That's about right.
(Andromeda) Holy cow.
(L) That's scary.
(A Jay) But it was only in one article that he said that, and I'm having a difficult time tracking down how he came to that conclusion.
(L) Well, another question would be, I mean it would occur to me was if a person doesn't have inner speech, would they even know it?
(Joe) Exactly. If you ask them do they have an inner monologue? They go, what's an inner monologue? What do you mean inner monologue? Would you find a lot of them at Biden rallies? [laughter] Anyway, carry on...
(L) Well, it does seem that a lot of the lefties are just driven purely by emotion: reaction machines. Completely brainwashed.