Session 29 November 2001

davey72

The Living Force
Quinault said:
Freyr said:
I think this session is just released. How do you understand it better?

Hello Freyr,

This session is from November 29, 2001, just as the subject line says. Laura has an ongoing project to transfer all the old sessions into this forum. Many of us have read the previous sessions via the Cass website and/or the self-contained .EXE program that was created years ago.
I had downloaded something once that contained the session transcripts up to 2001, i think. I thought it was great, as i could not find it on the site at the time. The more i think about it though, i know it was wrong, as, for one, it was stealing. Secondly, i have been wondering if they were tampered with in some way. The reason i was thinking this, is that some of the things i read in this forum seem to not be what i remember. Either way, i would love to read them again by date.
I also would read them out of order, and therefore out of context. Thank you for taking the time to post them again, by date.
 

TOTEM36

Jedi
Laura said:
November 29, 2001
Q: {tape ended, restarted}...B*** from the egroup wrote about an event where her son was in a near fatal accident and she had some kind of experience where she was interacting with a number of beings who were "clicking" or "cliqueing" or whatever. She wanted to know what this was. It happened just before the accident.
A: She was conferencing with alternate selves of herself and others including her son.
Q: Was it because of this impending event? Was it discussions and making of decisions?
A: Yes, it was a possible check-out point for the son but he decided to add other elements to his karmic shopping list so to speak.
Q: Gee. Is Karma like going to the store? "I'll have two lessons of those, and five of that one over there! I need a dozen of these!" What a thought! A "karmic shopping list?"....................

This implies that maybe we are not really victims of anything at all in life (including psychopaths). There seems to be a hidden part of ourselves choosing to subject us to the horrors of life incl. car crashes, psychopaths, financial issues etc etc.

What about the Norweign massacre?
maybe all the victims cooperatively chose to be shot and take part in that incident, -as a kind of dramatic final statement that suited everyone involved?

It would be have been good if the Cass had discussed these 'check-out points' more:

- how many 'check-out points' are usually pre-planned into a lifetime?

- and, do we conference with the alternate selves of other people all of the time?
 

Path27

The Force is Strong With This One
hallowed said:
This implies that maybe we are not really victims of anything at all in life (including psychopaths). There seems to be a hidden part of ourselves choosing to subject us to the horrors of life incl. car crashes, psychopaths, financial issues etc etc.

What about the Norweign massacre?
maybe all the victims cooperatively chose to be shot and take part in that incident, -as a kind of dramatic final statement that suited everyone involved?

I guess we could never know for sure. I think it's kind of a stretch to suggest that we couldn't ever really be victims of anything at all, though -- a car crash is something that is accidental (usually), and not pre-meditated. A gun massacre, on the other hand, is very purposeful -- so I think that you could say that the people killed in that kind of situation were true victims, who may have had a different life plan at some level that was cut short by the intrusive actions of the perpetrator. Maybe a good question to ask is, if you had some way to stop the massacre, would you do so? Or would you allow it to happen anyway because that might be the life plan of the potential victims? I think most of us would choose to stop it if it were within our power, because we really just don't know what's going on 'behind the scenes' (with our higher and 'alternate' selves) and therefore have to make a moral choice with the knowledge we do have.

hallowed said:
It would be have been good if the Cass had discussed these 'check-out points' more:

- how many 'check-out points' are usually pre-planned into a lifetime?

- and, do we conference with the alternate selves of other people all of the time?

For all we know, we do. Or maybe we don't :) But maybe it's better if we don't know about the check-out points? The way I understand it -- which may be correct or not -- is that we are here right now to be learning lessons. Knowing about those check-out points is kind of like knowing how the curriculum is designed -- we don't really need to know that in order to learn what we are supposed to during our incarnation (and maybe knowing too much about it would actually interfere with the lessons -- heck, if I knew a potential check-out point was coming up for me, it would probably be pretty distracting!).
 

primeaddict

Jedi Master
Q: Alright already. Are we heading toward a macrocosmic quantum jump, including a collapse of the wave, and the dissolution of matter, even if only temporarily as I have proposed in Noah?
A: Close.
Q: What could get me closer to the exact idea?
A: Matter is, in macrocosmic terms, somewhat different than you suppose.
Q: What do you mean by that? Matter in terms of stars and solar systems? It is what?
A: How about "larger."
Q: So, when we think of matter as being atoms and molecules, solar system and cosmic matter is composed of larger units?
A: Yes.
Q: What are the smallest of these larger units?
A: Living things.
Q: (A) Living things extending through densities?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Wait. Are there beings composed of stars like we are composed of atoms?
A: In a certain sense, yes.
Q: (A) So, larger, we added living things as not just built of matter, but as units of matter.
A: Yes.
Q: In other words, when an event occurs, as in a "measurement," or a "change," in terms of macrocosmic quantum changes, it is like a phase transition of a certain collection of matter units in terms of living beings? Living beings as whole units, can "survive," so to say. I have in mind that it's almost like a decision in your life. When you make a decision, it's like a shift in your consciousness. And when you are looking at a macrocosmic quantum transition, it's almost like a decision, in a sense. And on one side of it, you come to that moment, and you make the decision, and on the other side of that moment - which, in a certain sense, the moment of measurement is immeasurable - and on the other side of it, everything is different. Not only is it so, that on the other side of the measurement is everything different, like with an atom, when an event occurs, something is gained or lost, or has moved its position or momentum or something, some significant difference exists in the state of the atom after this moment of measurement. And this significant difference is what I am trying to get at. (A) Probably what you have in mind is something like "transiting to 4th density, what really happens?" (L) Yeah.
A: "Happens" is not quite the proper term, more like "becomes."
Q: (A) Becoming is creating something completely new. "Happen" means that things change, move, regroup. But "become" means...
A: Yes.
Q: Is there anything that we are supposed to do regarding this upcoming transition?
A: Yes.
Q: Can we know what it is?
A: Not yet!

This is opposite of what modern scientist view creation. That matter evolves from pure energy then living creatures evolve from matter.

If I understand the C’s statement correctly, living beings are pure energy then these beings create other life forms that then create matter, stars, planets and galaxies. Then these the beings of stars, planets and galaxies create the biological beings that can evolve in their energy field.

Life creates matter.

Life force occupies all densities as one unified intelligence thus is a sentient being.

This then changes the paradigm of alchemy. Instead of discovering how to convert base metal into gold an alchemist discovers the consciousness of the sentient being that creates the matter. Then works with that being to achieve the material substance. A very different and more spiritually demanding task.
 

freigeist2.0

The Force is Strong With This One
Thanks to Laura, Ark and Mother Cassiopaea for this session. I like the cassiopaean humor. Sloozer ...
Greetings to all fellow readers
 
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