I do remember reading that Linus Pauling did take mega doses of vitamin C. However over here an article by a Dr.Tim O'Shea seems to suggest that perhaps megadoses of vitamin C is not required.
Laura said:A little judicious research on the net will indicate the range of normal doses of Vitamin C for the healthy person. I think it is somewhere between 1 and 5 grams.
There is a great deal of evidence to indicate that cholesterol deposits in the arteries veins around the heart are not the cause of heart attacks. The evidence points out that the walls of these vessels, about 10 inches on the heart, are collapsed 70 to 80 times every minute with each beat of the heart for our entire lives. The walls of these vessels are strengthened by vitamin C and with a deficiency in vitamin C they lose their strength. When the vessel walls crack they remain collapsed and this is when the heart attack happens. The cholesterol that medical people say is clogging the veins has really been deposited there to compensate for the deficiency in vitamin C. It is the body’s secondary defense to prevent collapsed walls of the arteries and veins. Take 6 to 10 grams of vitamin C daily. Reduce the amount if you get diarrhea. Dr. Matthias Rath researched this data. Get his book, Why Animals do not have Heart Attacks. Check the Internet. The proof has been established as well as it can be, certainly a hundred times better than the idea that cholesterol drugs will make you less likely to have a heart attack.
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Here is one more thing that the FDA really doesn’t want you to know. Heart attacks have nothing to do with cholesterol levels in your blood. The AMA and other medical research oriented groups have not produced a single study that proves that people with high levels of cholesterol have more heart attacks than those with low levels. They have proved, however, that they can sell billions of dollars of cholesterol lowering drugs. Dr. Matthias Rath has shown that the basis of heart attacks is vitamin deficiency, mainly vitamin C. Get his books. Believe me. He has proven it. Vitamins prevent heart attacks, not cholesterol lowering drugs.
Dr. Matthias Rath points out that there are several thousand miles of blood veins in your body. Those don’t clog up and cause problems. If cholesterol in the blood was causing problems, it would cause problems throughout the body. Only the ten inches of veins right at the heart are affected by cholesterol. Now why would that be? It’s because those veins at the heart are smashed flat at every heart pump, like 70 or 80 times a minute, millions of times a year. They fail not because they are clogged, but because the walls of the veins cannot take being flattened so many times, and they crack. Vitamin C is what causes the walls of blood vessels to be strong. Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency, and heart attack is part of the same problem. The deposit on the walls of those particular veins is only to increase the strength and prevent the veins from being totally flattened and not for the purpose of clogging the veins. When the vein cracks it stays flat instead of opening again and that is what is causing heart attacks. Vitamin C is what prevents heart attacks. Read Dr. Rath’s books, and be sure to buy some vitamin C. The pharmaceutical companies definitely don’t want you to read his books, because you won’t buy their cholesterol drugs.
Cholesterol is the body’s response to a deficiency of vitamin C. The body seeks to strengthen the walls of the blood vessels and prevent them from cracking by depositing the cholesterol.
I should mention that Dr. Rath worked with Dr. Linus Pauling for many years. Dr. Linus Pauling agreed with Dr. Rath’s findings and they worked together to further verify and understand the use of vitamins in the body. Dr. Linus Pauling was the only man in history to receive two unshared Nobel prizes in the medical field. His agreement and help with these findings adds a great deal of credence to them.
Annette1 said:Some trivia I've picked up along the way: Genghis Khan's warriors wore silk in battles because arrows were less likely to pierce them owing to the close weave of the fabric. (not certain if this is fact or fiction)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_armour
Mongolian armour, like its Chinese counterpart, has a long history. Mongolian armour drew its influence from Chinese and Middle East styles. Most Mongolian armour was of scale and lamellar variety. Most armour was made of hardened leather and iron, lanced together onto a fabric backing, sometimes silk. Mail armour was also sometimes used, but was rare, probably due to its weight and difficulty to repair. Mongol archers demanded the armour to be light enough so that when riding, it didn't interfere with their mobility[citation needed]. It is also possible that the Mongol armour lacked mail and was generally lighter than it's counterparts to the East and West because the nomadic habits of the Mongols were not conducive to the labor intensive practices and permanent facilities necessary for making mail or large plates. Sometimes arm protection was removed so that a rider could draw their bow. The helmet was made of mostly iron, but leather and other materials were also used.
Genghis Khan was once said to have issued all his horsemen with silk vests, as an arrow hitting silk does not break it but ends up embedded in the flesh wrapped in silk, allowing the arrow to be removed by gently teasing the silk open, as opposed to the usual method of removing barbed arrows, cutting them out or pushing then right through an injured limb and out of the other side. These silk vests functioned much like the padded armour used by European and Byzantine soldiers of the era, such as the gambeson.
Gimpy said:This next set is a listing of studies on Vit C from the Life Extension site here: http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/may2000_vitamin_c_02.html
The links on this page are extensive, and are abstracts of scientific studies. If you go to the link above and click on a study, it will take you to the full summary.
For brevity sake, here are the first five:
ABSTRACTS FOR THE VITAMIN C CONTROVERSY
Laura said:Let me add that megadoses of vitamin C save the individual's life (the one under discussion in the session). The context of the answer is that we were talking about a life-threatening illness and recovery phase, not the average person. The individual actually took up to 50 grams of vitamin C per day for a week following the collapse and tolerated it well!
A little judicious research on the net will indicate the range of normal doses of Vitamin C for the healthy person. I think it is somewhere between 1 and 5 grams.
Vitamin C shortages
Reasons to reach for vitamin C-rich foods appear to be growing, but as many as one in three of us may not be getting enough vitamin C, according to Johnston. Her recent investigation found that 12 percent of adult women in the U.S. are deficient in vitamin C. They had blood levels so low that they actually had early signs of scurvy, a vitamin C deficiency disease associated with 18th Century sailors who died after long journeys without fruits and vegetables.
Your daily dose
Despite the newly revealed vitamin C benefits, it's not a green light to load up on vitamin C supplements. The best way to get the vitamin C you need is by eating more fruits and vegetables, advised antioxidant expert John Erdman, professor of food science and human nutrition at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
The clinical trials using vitamin C supplements to explore the nutrient's role in reducing the risk of cancer and heart disease have been "very disappointing," Erdman said. The only clear pattern of risk reduction is when researchers have looked at fruit and vegetable consumption, he said.
According to Erdman, who served on the panel that established the recommended daily intakes for vitamin C and other antioxidants, the answer is simple: Load up daily on "whole" foods like fruits and vegetables. They contain a complex mixture of vitamins, minerals, fiber, phytochemicals and other compounds that can't be captured in a pill.
Session Date: January 3rd 2009
Q: (L) That's what the caterpillars eat to make silk. (J) So _____ should take Mulberry extract? (laughter) (_____) And Then I can start making silk? (L) If you start doing weird things, I'm outta here! (laughter) (_____) What can I do to mentally block?
A: Right now you need help as you are ... weak. But the general principle can be understood from the term "righteous anger." If you think about the expression that the fate of the universe may depend on you it should make you angry.
Q: (L) That wasn't very clear, was it? (A****) That expression?
A: No. The fate of the universe can be altered negatively and many will suffer if you are out of the picture. That is what "they" want.
Q: (D) So your first priority has to be to stay healthy and make sure you take care of yourself. (S) We need to get you a superhero outfit. (_____) Made of silk! (laughter)
Session Date: January 3rd 2009
A: 2009 is going to be a "smashing" year.
Q: (L) Swell. (J) Comets.
A: Maybe one...?
Laura said:This session is going to have some blanks in it since we were discussing a health issue due to the fact that a member of our household was ill over Christmas and nearly died. Christmas was a rather grim affair for us this year. I'll edit it as tight as I can so that anything of general interest can be read.
Session Date: January 3rd 2009
Laura, Ark, family, Chateau Crew, a guest
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Q: .... (Ark) You were asking about this WiFi, and it's bad, but I want to ask about this USB stick with the little antenna on our Asus? It radiates microwaves like cellphones. Is it strong?
A: Also bad. You would be surprised what tiny things can do. In all cases, however, there are remedies and safety measures.
Q: (S) Well, this kind of my question. Because we have cell phones that are so evil, right? The problem is that even if you never use a cell phone, there are towers EVERYWHERE. If a cell phone is on and it's close to you, that's worse, but... (L) You can't escape it all. (S) So we can obviously turn off the evil stuff, but... (L) I think there's also the stuff out there for cancelling that is dietary {like minerals}, or something you can do.
A: Silk is always good.
Q: (Ark) But coming back to this USB stick and little antenna which is probably very weak, what would be the distance from this that you would consider to be safe?
A: 2 meters.
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Vulcan59 said:Laura said:Let me add that megadoses of vitamin C save the individual's life (the one under discussion in the session). The context of the answer is that we were talking about a life-threatening illness and recovery phase, not the average person. The individual actually took up to 50 grams of vitamin C per day for a week following the collapse and tolerated it well!
A little judicious research on the net will indicate the range of normal doses of Vitamin C for the healthy person. I think it is somewhere between 1 and 5 grams.
Thanks Laura. Experiments in order for me now. Anyone knows or can suggest what particular brand I should buy or look for?