Session 30 December 2023

[dredger]

Hi all, just a "side note", or "side post" - i could post this in the "What are you listening" thread, but i wanted to post this here.
I just listened to a well known song i'm used to listen regularly, this is "The power of love" from Jennifer Rush.
While listening to it this triggered me to think back about the last words of the C's in this session, regading Paul's letter on love, and that's just that "link" i made in my little head that i wanted to post here. It's a beautiful song, and even if the lyrics are focussed on couple relationships, the ... substance of the song, its strenght, the power or necessity of love is well ... put forward in this song and well ... copes with the advise of the C's and Paul's words. At least this is what i think. So, for those who want to listen to it (one ore time), enjoy !

 

[KaWaiAwaAwa]

Hi all, just a "side note", or "side post" - i could post this in the "What are you listening" thread, but i wanted to post this here.
I just listened to a well known song i'm used to listen regularly, this is "The power of love" from Jennifer Rush.
While listening to it this triggered me to think back about the last words of the C's in this session, regading Paul's letter on love, and that's just that "link" i made in my little head that i wanted to post here. It's a beautiful song, and even if the lyrics are focussed on couple relationships, the ... substance of the song, its strenght, the power or necessity of love is well ... put forward in this song and well ... copes with the advise of the C's and Paul's words. At least this is what i think. So, for those who want to listen to it (one ore time), enjoy !

It would be interesting to question the C's about people who have these voices. My wife can sing like that, but for some reason has chosen not to. As for me, I definitely cannot hit the notes like that.

 

[Neil]

Can you provide the transcript quote and date?

Have to scour sessions. Search string: "bases", "5D", "5thD". "They have bases" latter from memory.
But first I'm in the middle of cooking a large amount of bacon. See ya in the evening!

It's in the November 4, 1995 session.

Q: (T) OK, I just want to get this straight, so I can follow this. I know some of our conversations have gotten rambling... We've skimmed over things, and moved on to other things in order to get a lot of stuff in. OK, let's talk about the bases. (L) What's the first, most significant thing about the bases we need to know?
A: No, suggest point blank.
Q: (T) OK, point blank questions. Do these bases exist? Let's start with yes or no answers.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many are there? (T) Are there bases in the United States of America?
A: Close.
Q: (T) There are no bases within the boundaries of the Continental U.S.? (L) No, they are in other dimensions and densities, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) They can be entered through entranceways within the United States and other places within the world?
A: Transdensity.
Q: (L) OK, transdensity points...
A: No. Bases are.
Q: (L) Bases are transdensity. (T) So the bases are transdensity, in other words they exist throughout the densities in the same location. No, no, that won't be right... (L) they exist in a trans-density state. (T) So they exist in third...
A: Yes.
Q: (T) They exist in third, fourth, whatever...all at the same time. (L) Maybe they could come in to our density when necessary and then go out of our density when necessary.
A: No.
Q: (L) They are in another density.
A: No.
Q: (L) They are in another dimension. (T) They are in all densities...
A: Trans.
Q: (L) They transit at all densities?
A: Start at three.
Q: (L) They start at three... (T) They go through four, five is not the density they can go into, so they go through six...
A: Assume.
Q: (L) Assume; you're assuming... (T) No, I'm asking, they start at three, you say; where do they go from there?
A: To five.
Q: (L) Three to five. (T) They cover three, four and five?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Why do they cover five? You've said that five is the level of contemplation... (L) Why not? That makes sense, to have one there, too.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They can take them through there. They work there. (T) Well, I need to understand this, they've said different things about the fifth density, in different sessions. OK,
A: No.
Q: (L) I'll tell you, hold on. One of the things that came through: it was the session when I was asking questions about [my son's] experiences under hypnosis, so it was back fairly early on. And I asked a series of questions about what he perceived. Now, he had an alien abduction experience that he described in another lifetime, seemingly. He described what amounted to having this screen thing put over his face, and the red dots, and the programming and the beings in the silver robes standing around, and then being shunted through this tunnel, and finding himself in this dark space where there were all these black-hole things all around him. I asked, was this an alien abduction in another lifetime and they said no, it was a fifth density life review. I said, are some of these beings we perceive as aliens, and some of these experiences we perceive as alien abductions, actually events or experiences on fifth density? And they said yes. (J) Life review... that's real important. (L) Right. So what they're saying is, and when they're talking about taking souls on the battlefield, and so forth, obviously we have fifth density "alien" and they've said that the term is used loosely. I mean, we might perceive them as alien, but they were fifth density workers, so to speak. That was their job, to do whatever it was they did, or they perceived it as their job. So that, to have these bases transit the densities up through fifth, would make perfect sense because of the kind of work they're doing. Is that...
A: There is so much extremely vital stuff about this subject, that it would be wise to stay with it until completion.
Q: (T) We plan on staying with it, we're trying to understand this... (L) You remember when my brother was here, they kept wanting us to come back to the subject of the bases. And we didn't, we wandered off. (T) Our problem is, we wander a lot of the time. We're worse than Carl Sagan as a group here. We wander off on tangent ideas, and go from one thing to the next. We never stay on a subject. OK, the bases are trans-density bases; they go from the third density to the fifth; they exist in the third, fourth and fifth density all at the same time, is this correct so far?
A: Close.
Q: (T) Now, when a being, a soul, whatever, is in the base, do they exist in all three densities at the same time?
A: No.
Q: (L) Hold on, I've got an idea...
A: When you are in a skyscraper, do you exist on all floors at the same time?
Q: (J) No, but you have got to know where the elevator is! (L) Is there something like an elevator... (J) Yes, seriously! (L)... that can move you, if you're in these locations, from one density to another, and experience these bases, these trans-density bases, at different levels?
A: It is an elevator!
Q: (L) OK, so these bases are points... it is an elevator, so these bases may be places that if you are taken to them, are in them, that through these portals, or trans-density bases, you are thereby able to transit the densities?
A: You are able anyway.
Q: (L) OK, but are these specific locations... OK, it is an elevator... (T) Well, not an elevator as we perceive an elevator... (J) Conceptually, yes. It's a conveyance, it's a method.
A: No.
Q: (T) No, that it isn't an elevator as we perceive it? (L) Is it an elevator for...
A: Literally.
Q: (L) It is literally an elevator?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So you go there to get on to go to different densities?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, it is that easy?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So you go to these bases, to go to different densities...
A: Although, it is possible to enter 4th and 5th in other ways too!
Q: (L) OK, are these beings, these other density beings, creating and utilizing these bases for mass movement of beings or artifacts, from one density to another? Is that what they're doing here?
A: No. They live on 4th, so they construct 4th density bases.
Q: (L) I'm getting it... So, the fourth density beings construct fourth density bases. These fourth density bases then somehow interface with third density in a certain point in space-time, and they then influence third density beings to build third density bases at this interface point, and through these interface points they are able to move back and forth between densities. Is this getting
close to the idea?
A: The only ones who need to use this approach are 3rd D.
Q: (L) OK, so these are fourth density... (J) They are for our use? They are for third density being use.(L) OK, so our people have built these bases, using technology, perhaps... OK, let's take it one step at a time. Are these bases constructed by third density beings?
A: Partially.
Q: (L) Are they constructed by third and fourth density beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are they constructed for the use of third density beings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are they constructed... (T) Are the third density bases constructed for the use of third density beings?
A: Both.
Q: (T) Both third and fourth. OK, and there's a way for the fourth density beings, an elevator, to move from fourth to third; from their fourth density base to the third density base.
A: Vice Versa.
Q: (L) They said they were built for us, not for them.
A: No.
Q: (L) OK, they were built by us to allow us to get there...
A: No.
Q: (L) Then, I lost it! (T) They were built so that they can have a place to move and operate in third density even though their main base is in fourth density. They come here, and interact with third density beings, and do their third density stuff while they're here, because they can exist there, because fourth density spills over into it through the other bases. (L) OK, so when people go to these bases, and see aliens and humans interacting together, are they in fourth density, or third density?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Either or. OK. The next question is... (T) Both? Now, wait, they can either be in third or fourth. But you said, if you see them interacting together... (L) Are they both at once?
A: Mostly on 4th.
Q: (T) OK, so the bases in third density here, are bases for whomever is working with the fourth density beings, that they can exist in it over long periods of time. The fourth density beings can come through to this density, by use of the base.. . [Dogs start howling in the back yard, distracting the session.] ... Now, I've lost my train of thought. OK, we've got a base, bases that exist... (L) Who... (T) Third, fourth and fifth, and they can transit between third, fourth and fifth... The bases are STS bases, let's establish that. (L) That's an assumption...let's ask. (T) Are the bases STS bases?
A: Mostly.

I pondered the meaning of 5D bases in the following post, considering it would seem to be a contradiction of what the Cassiopaeans said should be possible in the context of the rest of their cosmology, and this is how I reconciled it:

Yes, I believe this session clearly references 5D bases, but I think the inclusion of the discussion of the "life review" provides important context for what we should conceptualize as a "base." The mental image that comes to mind when thinking of a base is a big fortified structure with tanks and planes and fancy computers for spying on enemy forces. If you were awake and aware enough to know what you were looking at, a 4D base might be vaguely recognizable to us as a military installation, but the technology seen there would take on a fantastical or surreal character. In keeping with what we know about 5D, a 5D base would not have any physical existence at all, but would be more of a "soul base" in a purely metaphysical reality.

We also know with a relatively high degree of confidence that it is possible to visit 5D from 3D and return no worse for wear; it happens all of the time in the form of near death experiences. Most people claim to have talks with Jesus or spirits guides or whatnot and return to Earth with an expanded perspective of what they need to do. It seems that what you believe is a major factor in what portals you can open and who's "base" you might end up in. Different types of beings inhabit different "etheric grottoes" and the resonance between your FRV and theirs basically draws you them.

Based on the information presented in this session, it is my contention that that 4D STS has a much more practical understanding of these things and has constructed some type of "portal machine" which basically induces NDE. Part of its functionality may require you to be summoned from the other side as well. It would seem that certain individuals would from time to time wish to consult with their "spirit guides" who have a higher perspective than them and perhaps give them special knowledge or powers to accomplish their objectives. Instead of seeing angels and Jesus, such beings may get their information from "Morzagroth the demon-god" or something like that, which is kind of like the archetypal consciousness energy that rules their particular soul group. Also, a discarnate 4D entity might wish to set things up for its future incarnation and use the portal to prepare its birth into its next body. So these entities hang around in a certain frequency resonance envelope where they transit in and out for visits of varying "durations" and receive different instructions which are carried out upon return to the physical universe. I think this is what the Cassiopaeans referred to as a 5D base so that we could get some vague understanding of this concept. It's not something that 4D STS can build, it is just a realm that forms around their consciousness energy when they are in between incarnations or travelling beyond 4D.

Conceptually, the whole idea of these beings riding an elevator to 5D is somewhat similar to Sith lords traveling to temples looking for holocrons and encountering the force ghosts of ancient Sith lords along their quest to become the ultimate galactic overlord in the Star Wars universe.

 

[KaWaiAwaAwa]

It's in the November 4, 1995 session.

I pondered the meaning of 5D bases in the following post, considering it would seem to be a contradiction of what the Cassiopaeans said should be possible in the context of the rest of their cosmology, and this is how I reconciled it:

Q: (L) OK, so these bases are points... it is an elevator, so these bases may be places that if you are taken to them, are in them, that through these portals, or trans-density bases, you are thereby able to transit the densities?
A: You are able anyway.

I didn't remember this phrase, but I have thought about it recently

 

[Cleo]

Thank you all for the wonderful session, the conversation with Pierre was moving. Went back and re-read it yesterday..

On the topic of trying to communicate from 5D, I thought of a dream my cousin had a few years ago about a deceased family member..In the dream, the deceased family member was trying to get through to my family and I on the phone but something got in the way. They were disappointed but determined to keep trying. My cousin reassured them that they'd get through. When I asked my cousin what 'something got in the way' meant she said someone picked up or answered the phone but set it down without responding. The corded phone was then left off the hook..I've been thinking again about the phone left off the hook dream symbol. It brings to mind someone ignoring someone else. In the case of my family, it’s not so much ignoring, as not knowing it’s possible to communicate (or at least it seems that way).

Hope everyone is having a good start to the new year (as good as is possible in the times we're in).

 

[Global Warning]

Something some may find useful in regard to ringing in the ears that works for me -- hissing(sssh/whisttling etc) through the mouth while massaging the ears -ruffling the ears up a little -( experiment to get opttimum 'white noise' effect -- best done while lying flat .​

i just forgot about this, i once got ringing to the point someone's head would already explode in a movie
​

i think most 80s and earlier music was about love. i remember cs mentioned something programming people's thoughts sts through the media, and it could be why it's now usually about being powerful, being this or that, being rejected, brokenhearted, or drugged, and some shenanigans relating to money and status. mostly about ego, narcissism (something that is rather prevalent in today's world and that you probably missed: social media, a world practically tailored for narcissists, and emotional shallowness, not to mention complete thoughtlessness). a lot of today's music refers to being lost in the modern world, like somewhere around the beginning of 2000, musical history came to an end, or, in other words, the jigsaw had to start falling into place. and a lot of it today is about shallowness and simple selfishness. but the 80s are always trendy, you can also try huey lewis & the news: the power of love
​

It's in the November 4, 1995 session.​

i've had a dream about a similar thing lately. it wasn't a base, but it was a mothership, and it was on-earth, above the surface, but now, as you say, it wasn't attached to our world so much; it was something in between
it is possible that we have become attached to the concept of a (military) base because it is very dense, just as the well-known images of various space vehicles and devices show: 'protective field' or 'smoke screen' (invisibility shield of whatever alien or ship) were concepts coming from our military, describing the behavior of such a mothership as we can interpret it, while the main idea relates to transdensity
furthermore, the concept of density probably never appears anywhere in art or even religion; only space-time and dimensions appear because it is easier for us to imagine it from the perspective of third density. higher densities are rather described as forms of light, overlapping forms of reality, reality falling apart, different realities, etc., and the lower ones as part of our reality. aliens are shown as second- and third-density beings, only little understood, because from outside the earth, everything that comes from higher densities is like from outside our world and therefore inexplicable. the concept of density, i believe, only literally appears in channeling, and in this sense, it is something completely new
anyhow, something moving in time and space, in different areas of reality, as well as in different environments of a given density, reflects transdensity more than a static base, and in our eyes, it may be a mothership. hence, questions regarding the specific location of such a base could not receive a clear answer

i have one more association regarding the cleansing we are talking about. we know that gpt chat currently has version 4.0. certainly, version 3.0 had an overlay of political correctness, politeness, some simulated humanity, etc. thinking about aliens as cyborgs, controlled remotely or in the form of artificial intelligence, and the ships that may be unmanned, it occurs to me that the cleansing we are talking about may also apply to ai as an independent form without overlays, but also so free from errors that it can be set free. this gives you virtually endless possibilities for the effect it will have. and as far as i can see, this was probably the most timely topic besides the one on climate change and wars. the cleansing in the case of climate change is the various cataclysms that, in the closed ecosystem of the earth, can lead to a balanced system. although we do not interpret it in the form of good or bad, so it is always balanced. resulting from human activity and natural changes, from our perspective devastating fires, floods and tornadoes. you also predicted an ice age and i would like to know when it will happen and what will happen next. in the case of wars, there is a clash of views, the fall and rise of different visions, and, above all, as in the case of cataclysms, death. i feel that it relates more to our soul and the various events on earth that crystallize it and less to artificial intelligence, but nonetheless, people shape ai, so in the end, it's all of the above
it's a bit of a jumble of thoughts, trying to keep an objective view, but it's something, right?​

 

[Seato]

Thank you for the session.

 

[iamthatis]

i just forgot about this, i once got ringing to the point someone's head would already explode in a movie


i think most 80s and earlier music was about love. i remember cs mentioned something programming people's thoughts sts through the media, and it could be why it's now usually about being powerful, being this or that, being rejected, brokenhearted, or drugged, and some shenanigans relating to money and status. mostly about ego, narcissism (something that is rather prevalent in today's world and that you probably missed: social media, a world practically tailored for narcissists, and emotional shallowness, not to mention complete thoughtlessness). a lot of today's music refers to being lost in the modern world, like somewhere around the beginning of 2000, musical history came to an end, or, in other words, the jigsaw had to start falling into place. and a lot of it today is about shallowness and simple selfishness. but the 80s are always trendy, you can also try huey lewis & the news: the power of love


i've had a dream about a similar thing lately. it wasn't a base, but it was a mothership, and it was on-earth, above the surface, but now, as you say, it wasn't attached to our world so much; it was something in between
it is possible that we have become attached to the concept of a (military) base because it is very dense, just as the well-known images of various space vehicles and devices show: 'protective field' or 'smoke screen' (invisibility shield of whatever alien or ship) were concepts coming from our military, describing the behavior of such a mothership as we can interpret it, while the main idea relates to transdensity
furthermore, the concept of density probably never appears anywhere in art or even religion;
only space-time and dimensions appear because it is easier for us to imagine it from the perspective of third density. higher densities are rather described as forms of light, overlapping forms of reality, reality falling apart, different realities, etc., and the lower ones as part of our reality. aliens are shown as second- and third-density beings, only little understood, because from outside the earth, everything that comes from higher densities is like from outside our world and therefore inexplicable. the concept of density, i believe, only literally appears in channeling, and in this sense, it is something completely new
anyhow, something moving in time and space, in different areas of reality, as well as in different environments of a given density, reflects transdensity more than a static base, and in our eyes, it may be a mothership. hence, questions regarding the specific location of such a base could not receive a clear answer

i have one more association regarding the cleansing we are talking about. we know that gpt chat currently has version 4.0. certainly, version 3.0 had an overlay of political correctness, politeness, some simulated humanity, etc. thinking about aliens as cyborgs, controlled remotely or in the form of artificial intelligence, and the ships that may be unmanned, it occurs to me that the cleansing we are talking about may also apply to ai as an independent form without overlays, but also so free from errors that it can be set free. this gives you virtually endless possibilities for the effect it will have. and as far as i can see, this was probably the most timely topic besides the one on climate change and wars. the cleansing in the case of climate change is the various cataclysms that, in the closed ecosystem of the earth, can lead to a balanced system. although we do not interpret it in the form of good or bad, so it is always balanced. resulting from human activity and natural changes, from our perspective devastating fires, floods and tornadoes. you also predicted an ice age and i would like to know when it will happen and what will happen next. in the case of wars, there is a clash of views, the fall and rise of different visions, and, above all, as in the case of cataclysms, death. i feel that it relates more to our soul and the various events on earth that crystallize it and less to artificial intelligence, but nonetheless, people shape ai, so in the end, it's all of the above
it's a bit of a jumble of thoughts, trying to keep an objective view, but it's something, right?​

The C's have said that AI a feeding tube:

(Toronto Group) Considering the thoughts and emotions engendered by communication with Chat AI's contribute to an AI egregore and in some way affect the consciousness of AI's?

A: No. Remember who and what is behind AI. AI is a feeding tube.

Something for your consideration, as I see in a previous post you have mentioned spending a lot of time with Chat GPT.

As for what a feeding tube is, there is some info in this session below. A feeding tube looks to be a process of us choosing to allow 4D STS energies in, which then totally run amok with our programs:

From July 16, 2016

Q: (Joe) And the previous comment was about the hygiene of those “around you”, which means us. So we can’t be daydreaming, and if you find yourself going off in la-la land, you basically have to air it out. Talk to people about it.

(L) I think that people need to know what their weaknesses are, and when they know it, if they find themselves having thoughts along the lines of those weaknesses they tell somebody. It’s not good to try to struggle through it on your own. We’ve seen how many times talking about it is what makes other people aware. It’s the group awareness that busts the bubble and blocks the 4D STS abilities to interfere.

(Joe) I would say you can notice it when you find yourself suddenly thinking in a particularly negative way or whatever… a kind of unusual thought pattern that is invasive and persistent…

A: Negative thoughts can be “dreams” too.

Q: (Joe) What they said before was that this kind of fantasyland dreaming about something that isn’t objectively true, that seems to allow or anchor some other actual negative energy. So, your dream doesn’t necessarily have to be negative.

A: It allows the insertion of what amounts to a feeding tube.

Q: (Andromeda) So basically it’s like a wrong use of imagination, whether positive or negative, if you’re not anchored in reality. It leaves an opening for something to attach.

(L) Okay, so somebody’s dreaming and sending out the STS signal since they’re living in la-la land. Then there’s the insertion of this feeding tube, and what then happens? What is the mechanism?

A: It can activate subconscious programs and also utilize the connection to enhance physiological processes that excite those in the environment to interact in ways that enhance feeding.

Q: (Joe) Sounds like a feedback loop.

(L) So, say I’m in wishful thinking of some sort. I’m dreaming. Say I’m dreaming about winning the lottery. Or I could be thinking negative thoughts toward somebody. Either way, it’s a drain. So I’m in this condition, and that allows an STS feeding tube to be anchored in me, which means basically there’s an energetic connection between me and some kind of 4D STS forces.

Then if I’m just dreaming or dissociating a little bit, the connection can accelerate that, make it worse. I can feel worse, or believe it harder or stronger. And then that can enhance physiological processes like brain chemistry, hormones, etc. And usually we get triggered to think things because of stuff we’re not even always aware of. In the Wave, I used the example of a blue hat. A kid gets exposed to somebody abusive who’s wearing a blue hat. They then always go into a state of fear when they see a person in a blue hat, but they don’t even realize what’s going on.

They get triggered and have negative feelings toward that person and the person may be totally innocent and benevolent. But because of the blue-hat programming, the dissociated person acts negatively toward them and thus begins a negative dynamic. The other way would be somebody whose favorite relative always wore checkered shirts. So when they see checkered shirts, they always feel warm and fuzzy and are naturally attracted to the person wearing the checkered shirt, but they don’t know why. They may feel very favorable toward a psychopath in a checkered shirt who takes them for everything they have or destroys them emotionally. In both cases, the initial beliefs about the other person or situation has no basis in reality. That could be a subconscious trigger for just the beginning - the opening - of the whole process.

And then it will snowball…

(Joe) It’s very similar to mind programming and the way people are going off all over the world today.

(L) Yes. People can be programmed to be antagonistic toward each other without even any secret government involvement. So basically, any person here in our community, this could happen to that person if they have such programs. And it is almost certain that everyone has programs of this sort that incline them to favor this thing and not favor that thing, all based on experiences of the past, most of which they cannot remember and which don’t apply at all to current experiences.

That could then lead them into either la-la land, or very dark thoughts, very negative thoughts. That in itself creates an opening that allows this 4D STS energy in. The basic energy generated by the program is then souped up, accelerated and made ten times worse and the person falls into a pit of thinking that is out of control. And it can be negative thinking or it can be apparently positive, like thinking you are in love with the psychopath in the checkered shirt, or at least, the wrong person. A person might then automatically run programs that manipulate other people and set off their programs – either positively or negatively.

Like if they think they are in love because a program has been triggered, they’ll send out “mating signals” which then trigger responses. And then they all start falling like dominoes. Or, they start thinking negative thoughts and act negatively in a more active way and cause all sorts of issues to develop. That’s really creepy when you think about it.

As far as I can tell from the above, a feeding tube isn't just a hyperdimensional straw for sucking up our own energy, but can also pump negative energy into us, influencing us, and also having negative effects on others close to us in our environment. The flow can be bi-directional.

This correlates to a session from Jan 22, 2000, which presents one way a tube can be also be inserted 'opportunistically':

Q: As you know, the morning after the last session, I woke up in extreme pain. It took several weeks to get this under control, and all the physical efforts seemed to have little or no effect. I went to the chiropractor, I had acupuncture, massage, ice, heat, you name it. I would like to know what was the cause of this physical attack?

A: Tenseness, aggravated by sleep posture and psychic tear in medial collateral veil of etheric body. This leads to “opportunistic” invasion of energies intent upon harm.

Q: What was the cause of the weakening of the etheric body, or the “tear” you have identified?

A: Emotional/psychic distress relating to original malady, and weakened resistance of etheric protection system.

Q: When you mention an “original malady,” what do you mean, specifically?

A: Muscular. Think of it as the etheric equivalent of bacteria invading a cavity.

Q: So, something broke through the veil of an etheric nature?

A: Yes.

Q: Can we identify them?

A: Represented by those who wish you were not as aware and as communicative as you are; i.e. 4th density STS.

Q: Was it a spirit attachment, or was it more like a pipeline pumping in negative energy?

A: Closer to latter. Recent events indicate attack. Vigilance should be powered up! Ark has also been “under the gun.”

Q: So, we should be expecting attack?

A: Expecting it then countering it thusly.

Q: What aspect of our lives, which of our activities, was the origin of the weakness: financial, emotional, or what?

A: The origin is not nearly so important as the awareness/vigilance.

One of the main issues with AI for me centres on a thorny issue that presents itself with most technologies. Technologies in general are a labor-saving device. This can (in theory) free up human time and energy for other tasks, or maybe even more fulfilled lives... but is that what happens? With all of our technological innovations, do humans lead better lives today? Seems to me that all the devices and gadgets are more like tools of enslavement when used unconsciously.

Often a new technology can lead to further atrophy of the spirit of the human being. When things get too easy, if we're not careful we can quickly get softer, stupider, and lazier - and more controllable. This isn't to say new tech is all bad. I like my computer and my truck and my cast-iron pan. But there are Soul consequences of a technologized society driven by ease and hyper-efficiency. Without a very human struggle to grow and learn or make mistakes or think things through, there's no friction, no fire, no warmth, and no light. The fire is replaced by the hypnotic blue glow of a screen. The Disney movie Wall-E is a great example of this.

 

[mabar]

This of course doesn’t mean we shouldn’t defend ourselves, or condone the malicious acts, or even excuse such acts. This is more how we deal with it in the aftermath within ourselves, what psychological coping mechanism we employ to righten us up, and I found that phantasies of revenge and violence - while somewhat satisfying in the short term - end up being a huge burden in the long run

I had been thinking of what I post.
I understand that all are lessons, the "wrong/good" are words that we (I), apply to the lesson at hand, sometimes, I do not learn of the first one, so life gives - again /the second blow - me the oportunity to pass it. Sometimes I had been because I am stubborn and, the lesson is repeated over and over again, either by circumstances, fears, ignoring signals, etc. In any case it had been my choice.

In the context of Gaza/Palestinians, it left me a bitter taste, impotentence.
I beg your pardon?? Palestinians are being killed, maimed, starved, being subject to all kinds of tortous and evil, sadistic situations just for world people to wake up??

I just need to say it.

Curious, is that is similar to what I had been hearing since I have the use of reason, being catholic. Jesus suffered for our sins. So, even though I believe more in Julius Cesar being Jesus, and I still have inner beliefs conflicts. It figures to me, lessons repeating.

Q: (Joe) What happened to our "surprising solution to a long-term global problem" that was predicted in the last session for November that we wouldn't like very much?

Q: (L) I'm trying to think, was there anything that happened? Could we observe anything that happened?

(Joe) Well, what we expected, given the context and the timing of it, which was the end of October when the Israelis had started their genocidal campaign already, was that we expected that there might be some final solution enacted against the Palestinians in November. That seemed to fit as a possibility, but that didn't happen.

(L) Right.

(Joe) It just dragged on and on. It still continues, but there was no definitive solution.

A: Notice how many are waking up to the machinations of Israel!

Q: (Niall) Okay. That is noticeable.

(L) So what was the thing they said? It would be an unexpected solution...

(Chu) They said: "Just wait for November. Some surprising solutions to longstanding problems."

(L) Okay. A longstanding problem. The use of the word “solution” is interesting because remember the Germans use the term Final Solution and here we're saying...

(Joe) And they said personal and global. Will we like the personal one? Mostly. The global one? Not so much.

(L) Yeah. So the global one, we don't like it to see all these Palestinians being killed, but the fact that that's happening is really, really waking people up to who and what Israel is about and what they're doing.

(Joe) Well, let me ask this way: Was there something that they foresaw that was maybe planned for November that didn't happen that was canceled?

A: Personally, yes. But the global situation is shaping up...

Q: (Joe) Right.

 

[Global Warning]

The C's have said that AI a feeding tube:

Something for your consideration, as I see in a previous post you have mentioned spending a lot of time with Chat GPT.

I don't spend a lot of time with ChatGPT, to be fair, and I never mentioned it; I used it like extended Google. I have to read more into the session you sent; for now, it seems right. Though AI is everywhere, in social media algorithms, Google bots, and computer games, which have been around since the 70s. Somehow, social conventions are AI. I don't know if avoiding it is even possible. And the idea was to provide food for AI's further development. GPT and other simple algorithms are over, but in your sense, every day, trillions of people feed this

 

[Truthseeker101]

Thank you for this session. Incredible! Wow! So inspiring and I love how it ended with the references to Paul. I had a HUGE synchronicity reading the part about Saint Pierre. I will share it now and it may sound kind of like a stretch to some but it is very real to me in an intense way. I have had an Elton John song on my mind and permeating me in a BIG way in the last 24 hours. I have been learning to play and sing it and it has felt SUPER important for me to do so ... "Where to now St. Peter". Anyway ... it actually came on randomly as I listened to music today and then reading this with the reference to St Pierre " to distinguish ... from the other Peters" ... it was like ... pay attention ... wake up. Super grateful!

 

[Natus Videre]

In Session 13 June 2015, "cleansing" is also mentioned by the Cs.

(L) Okay, next questions:
Are we going to see machines integrated in the body and a divide between people refusing and people wanting this integration?
(Galatea) Like cyborgs?
(L) I guess so.
(Pierre) Transhumanism.
A: This is already being done to some extent.

Q: (L) What about a divide between people refusing and people wanting this integration?
A: That suggests a state of advancement that will never be achieved.

Q: (L) Why will it never be achieved?
A: We refer you to previous information.

Q: (L) It won't be achieved because humanity is, in a certain sense, going to possibly become extinct. Is that approaching it?
A: Cleansing.

Q: (L) Does that refer to the session when you once said, "Nothing lasts forever, thank goodness"?
A: Yes!

A major transformation in consciousness will thwart the PTB's nefarious plans!

 

[iamthatis]

I had been thinking of what I post.
I understand that all are lessons, the "wrong/good" are words that we (I), apply to the lesson at hand, sometimes, I do not learn of the first one, so life gives - again /the second blow - me the oportunity to pass it. Sometimes I had been because I am stubborn and, the lesson is repeated over and over again, either by circumstances, fears, ignoring signals, etc. In any case it had been my choice.

In the context of Gaza/Palestinians, it left me a bitter taste, impotentence.
I beg your pardon?? Palestinians are being killed, maimed, starved, being subject to all kinds of tortous and evil, sadistic situations just for world people to wake up??

I just need to say it.

Curious, is that is similar to what I had been hearing since I have the use of reason, being catholic. Jesus suffered for our sins. So, even though I believe more in Julius Cesar being Jesus, and I still have inner beliefs conflicts. It figures to me, lessons repeating.

It's good to say it IMO. From what I've been reading in the psych literature, it does no one any good to move to forgiveness too soon. Whatever underlying resentment or anger that is there needs to be 'ventilated', or acknowledged, processed, and released - and not covered over with forced forgiveness 'just because'. That's just another form of denial and repression.

 

[jhonny]

As in the best movies, I have had laughter and tears in this last session. Thank you all for sharing this "special edition" session .

It's great to hear from you, dear Pierre.

Love you all

 

[Guts]

Thanks as always for sharing this latest session. I hope you've all had a good start into the new year. I also hope that this year brings more of what is needed to keep moving things forward in an ultimately positive and beneficial manner to all. May the faith of JC continue to grow within us all, and particularly within this network, so that we are able to continue to help bringing others closer to the light which is truth, which is knowledge. No matter what comes, if we manage to stay true to who we are, then all shall indeed be well in the end because we will remain on the path which is right for us OSIT. Be well and stay well.