Seaniebawn
Jedi Master
Shared Joy said:
Thanks for the link's shared joy.
Session 7 February 2015
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Thanks for the link's shared joy.
Leonel said:
Sounds a little bit like good cop/bad cop with the Craftmasons vs Freemasons to me. Will the real good guys please stand up? I don't know maybe it's just me but I always just come back to what the C's say and that keeps busy these days. Maybe we will know more in a little less than 4 months? :(
Shared Joy
Jedi Council Member
Richard S said:
Hi, and apologies- I do appreciate everybody's contribution, just a reminder I feel is worth perusing:
- better see to your daily opportunities to get prepared, do what you deem is the best possible action, and never expect to see something awesome or dramatic in a distant future - we all have this unfortunate habit of looking for something further away, to save us from our present misery be it: hardship, ailments, anxiety, scarcity of any kind of goods, boredom, lack of excitement, lack of motivation, lack of prospect, lack of whatever else. This is wishful thinking and the veil of oblivion we pull over our eyes to enable us to dream up a better world without much effort from our part.
Never confuse it with intent, though!
One could become easily addicted to ready-made information - that's why predictions and personal questions are not backed up by the C's. I think, a certain amount of attention-drawing is OK, but we should get used to process and put to good use this huge amount of information, painstakingly if necessary, otherwise all the teachings are useless.
I just had some pretty dire situations to deal with lately, which very much shook me up, so now is clear that nobody can /or be made responsible for my duties or choices. We have this opportunity to taste the freedom of informed choice, so let's not waste it.
Just like Noah, "who felt like building an ark, which later became handy", we were encouraged to use our "incredible abilities / talents". And what else could push us to reach for this "golden opportunity" but challenging life situations, hardship, and wake up calls.
May the Force of Infinite Wisdom be with us!
Joy
Shared Joy
Jedi Council Member
OK, just to back up some info from my previous post, here is a quote from Session of 12 July, 2014:
Q: (L) Let me come back to that. I'm not quite ready for that yet. I want to ask one other question. When I asked the question about Jesus or something, and there was something about three days in a comatose state, 96 hours of clear-channel meditation, emergence, prophesying to his followers, and then ascending into a mother ship? WHERE did that come from??
A: You and Frank mostly.
Q: (Andromeda) Did anything similar to that happen?
(L) You want to know did anything similar to that take place with anybody, at any time?
A: No
Q: (L) So, Frank was onto the UFOs, and I was pretty determined that something remarkable must have happened. So between the two of us and our extremely strong invested beliefs, I don't see how anything else could have come through.
(Perceval) That story about Jesus coming to the cave, or being placed in a cave... That comes straight from your biblical...
(L) My biblical training! And the UFO, Frank was all about UFOs! [laughter]
(Perceval) Trance meditation, you were fairly into that at the time.
(L) So, it occurs to me that in terms of many of the transcripts, probably the best information is when we didn't have any beliefs or assumptions about anything at all. We were just asking out of pure curiosity.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, well, I'm going to try to avoid having any beliefs or assumptions here about Caesar. [laughter]
end quote
Strong prejudice could distort any kind of information, that's why is so hard to get away from hardship, entanglements,etc.
I just remember seeing this in my life so many times - and, alas, I fell back to it, be it for ignorance, laziness or having enough, before I could have the chance to really grasp the depths of that life situation. And so I had wasted energy, opportunities, got back to square one, again and again.
And I see other people struggling with the same issues, and if I wanted to help them I got back to struggle - until I could see the situation with fresh eyes and detachment. Hidden opportunities can't be seen otherwise, nor the strategies to be implemented.
Thank you ALL, for everything
Joy
Q: (L) Let me come back to that. I'm not quite ready for that yet. I want to ask one other question. When I asked the question about Jesus or something, and there was something about three days in a comatose state, 96 hours of clear-channel meditation, emergence, prophesying to his followers, and then ascending into a mother ship? WHERE did that come from??
A: You and Frank mostly.
Q: (Andromeda) Did anything similar to that happen?
(L) You want to know did anything similar to that take place with anybody, at any time?
A: No
Q: (L) So, Frank was onto the UFOs, and I was pretty determined that something remarkable must have happened. So between the two of us and our extremely strong invested beliefs, I don't see how anything else could have come through.
(Perceval) That story about Jesus coming to the cave, or being placed in a cave... That comes straight from your biblical...
(L) My biblical training! And the UFO, Frank was all about UFOs! [laughter]
(Perceval) Trance meditation, you were fairly into that at the time.
(L) So, it occurs to me that in terms of many of the transcripts, probably the best information is when we didn't have any beliefs or assumptions about anything at all. We were just asking out of pure curiosity.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, well, I'm going to try to avoid having any beliefs or assumptions here about Caesar. [laughter]
end quote
Strong prejudice could distort any kind of information, that's why is so hard to get away from hardship, entanglements,etc.
I just remember seeing this in my life so many times - and, alas, I fell back to it, be it for ignorance, laziness or having enough, before I could have the chance to really grasp the depths of that life situation. And so I had wasted energy, opportunities, got back to square one, again and again.
And I see other people struggling with the same issues, and if I wanted to help them I got back to struggle - until I could see the situation with fresh eyes and detachment. Hidden opportunities can't be seen otherwise, nor the strategies to be implemented.
Thank you ALL, for everything
Joy
Skyalmian
Jedi Council Member
"Dramatic change" may not be the happy hopes wished for, the "Joy! New world coming!" seemingly all but forgotten. Consider this: the world has been in a slow boil downward spiral for decades, recently rapidly accelerating by 2012 and ever since (and maybe fueled by the Uranus-Pluto alignment of 2012-2015). One or two disasters in any form, a bolide, epic earthquake, Ebola plague, economic collapse, etc. is more liable to just send all the dysfunction of the world into frenetic overdrive and out in the open, making being here even far worse than it already is.goyacobol said:
I have friends independent of each other who have stated that they feel that 2015 might be their last year alive.
I'm kinda with them in thinking 2016 is a too-far shot, too.
~
Divide by Zero
The Living Force
Skyalmian said:
That's the feeling I've been having- that this change will shock us so hard that it will let go of our attachments to what we think we can do here in waking up people. This hope has been fading- even today at class they were talking about Mercury toxicity, and even the OSHA teacher didn't know that mercury was in vaccines (and allowed to be). Despite that shocking revelation, he said there must be a good reason for it. Sheesh, he was telling us how toxic mercury is 30 mins before that!
Grail Keeper
Jedi
That is what i think: A few days ago i collected in mind all of the clues given by the C's regarding the dates. Though these are very few i did manage to compose a rather non-contradictory picture.
2009 June. The C's tell about 5 years 2 go and zero new year. Later they tell about the times when the dead seem blessed also in five years. So i assumed that the real zero new year started in june of 2014.
2014 May. We are told that in eleven months there maybe no more money and the prospects for stock markets don't look good.
So i assumed then that by April of 2015 the global economy will start collapsing and that is the beginning of the end practically which will worsen eventually with the help of some earth changing events.
And we have the 4 months recently given in 2015. So there you have some very drastic times starting somewhere in April-June of this year. And finally we have this old April drop dead event prediction. After all i came to a conclusion that the zero new year ends in june of this year just in time for the 4 months period to end and usher in a critically new and disastrous year one of the new cycle. And finally i think that this year one will be the first in a chain of a few foollowing years given to us as the years of great prewave suffering that will unite the humanity before the Wave hits. And that is the levelling and balancing time.
Well if somebody thinks different i am open to all suggestions. :)
2009 June. The C's tell about 5 years 2 go and zero new year. Later they tell about the times when the dead seem blessed also in five years. So i assumed that the real zero new year started in june of 2014.
2014 May. We are told that in eleven months there maybe no more money and the prospects for stock markets don't look good.
So i assumed then that by April of 2015 the global economy will start collapsing and that is the beginning of the end practically which will worsen eventually with the help of some earth changing events.
And we have the 4 months recently given in 2015. So there you have some very drastic times starting somewhere in April-June of this year. And finally we have this old April drop dead event prediction. After all i came to a conclusion that the zero new year ends in june of this year just in time for the 4 months period to end and usher in a critically new and disastrous year one of the new cycle. And finally i think that this year one will be the first in a chain of a few foollowing years given to us as the years of great prewave suffering that will unite the humanity before the Wave hits. And that is the levelling and balancing time.
Well if somebody thinks different i am open to all suggestions. :)
Grail Keeper said:That is what i think: A few days ago i collected in mind all of the clues given by the C's regarding the dates. Though these are very few i did manage to compose a rather non-contradictory picture.
2009 June. The C's tell about 5 years 2 go and zero new year. Later they tell about the times when the dead seem blessed also in five years. So i assumed that the real zero new year started in june of 2014.
2014 May. We are told that in eleven months there maybe no more money and the prospects for stock markets don't look good.
So i assumed then that by April of 2015 the global economy will start collapsing and that is the beginning of the end practically which will worsen eventually with the help of some earth changing events.
And we have the 4 months recently given in 2015. So there you have some very drastic times starting somewhere in April-June of this year. And finally we have this old April drop dead event prediction. After all i came to a conclusion that the zero new year ends in june of this year just in time for the 4 months period to end and usher in a critically new and disastrous year one of the new cycle. And finally i think that this year one will be the first in a chain of a few foollowing years given to us as the years of great prewave suffering that will unite the humanity before the Wave hits. And that is the levelling and balancing time.
Well if somebody thinks different i am open to all suggestions. :)
Grail Keeper,
I think your memory is pretty good. I just thought I would add some of the details so others can check out your reasons for the above.
Session 09 June 2009:
The above would place the "A ticket to 5D naturally!" period as starting around June of 2014. Thinking back on all the tragic events after that date I can't help but feel many would prefer 5D to the events that have happened in their lives (Ukraine, France, ISIS, Iraq, Syria, Gaza, etc).
The mention by the C's of the 5 years from June 2009 seems to be what Pierre describes as "Year Zero". This was the first and only session reference that I could find since most other references are forum member comments based on the original March 22, 2014 session. This "Year Zero" has been one way to measure a count down I suppose and may be worth remembering.
Session 22 March 2014 3/23:
Concerning the financial crash we have the following session.
Session 17 May 2014:
The above would put the stock market/financial crash around April 2015 (April Drop Dead date?)
And the next 4 months?
Session 7 February 2015:
As the C's speak of "dramatic" change it could be by June 2015 in what ever "field" that may be. I suppose we will figure it out maybe sooner than we think. I think the C's have given us plenty of clues and maybe even more. I think our main goal should be to create "community" and continue networking.
wallygomer
A Disturbance in the Force
Most interesting session. So in praying, should I address Jesus, or pray to J Ceasar? I feel I need a focus in asking for intervention/assistance in my personal needs. Just a clarification from the C's. I am not sure this subject has been broached.
wallygomer said:
I think Caesar has mail-forwarding. ;D
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,35409.0.html
I read the other day an interesting article, an interview written as an article really, from the man that predicted the Swiss franc unpegging from the Euro. He was predicting the entire global economy would collapse very soon, no definitive date was given though and he's certainly not wrong that it will have to collapse eventually. But he also mentioned that the Great Depression was started with the collapse of an Austrian bank, and there's currently an Austrian bank that is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy from what I understand. So it may be something to keep an eye on. Moving on...
I was wondering about our perception of the predictions. Thinking about these predictions less as events that cause the start of inevitable collapses, and more as markers that tell us which realities we will or will not experience. Like when Putin came to power and suddenly went against the script that was written for him. So it may not necessarily be that any event or series of events that occur in the next few months causes a "dramatic change", but merely marks a shift or change of reality potentials. Not sure if I'm explaining this properly or if this has been brought up already, but it struck me reading through recent posts that we may need to look at this another way. :/
I was wondering about our perception of the predictions. Thinking about these predictions less as events that cause the start of inevitable collapses, and more as markers that tell us which realities we will or will not experience. Like when Putin came to power and suddenly went against the script that was written for him. So it may not necessarily be that any event or series of events that occur in the next few months causes a "dramatic change", but merely marks a shift or change of reality potentials. Not sure if I'm explaining this properly or if this has been brought up already, but it struck me reading through recent posts that we may need to look at this another way. :/
H-KQGE
Dagobah Resident
A Jay said:
I get what you're saying. That's how I've had to perceive things since the last few years. It has been discussed somewhere (ain't got a clue where) & I recall the C's indicating that the reality at the time (2010 I think) had changed & we couldn't make the type of "course correction" that we would like. May even have been in one of the above posted sessions (2009?). Personally I don't think it's difficult to view things in terms of "markers" as opposed to the "just one thing" type of narrative pummeled into us, (this event) such as 9-11 which was a HUGE marker. Using the previous sessions as a guideline (& as always of course, the combined knowledge of the forum) this can be rapidly discerned. For example, that must've been a huge historical marker within the probable timelines BEFORE the actuality to the C's. I imagine it like when people see a massive explosion at night in the distance, loud & distinct. Then looking back through sessions 15 years ago or more you see the way they give their answers (and pose questions in return) because of, & not just because of free will violation, their experiences coupled with their expanded perception, understanding & knowledge of the infinite now, or "expanded present" cycles within cycles.
Just to also say that thanks to you guys (forum members) I've been able to give voice to some things that I had locked away since my youth (too many to mention & still exploring) like the modifying of perception, the life-changing ways of viewing this reality. Most of it is taking for granted. Take disease for instance. I no longer (didn't really think of it in this way, but had no frame of reference back in the day) see disease as this event - an end stage if you will - but as a PROCESS. The multiple possibilities exist (even long before conception & also taking karma & reincarnation into account - "I'm my own great great grandfather!") & due to certain "events" via self-action/non-action (being born into one family & using its genes to aid whatever lessons to be learned) they break down into probabilities, the process then continues into a few probabilities... & then the ACTUALITY/reality, which is either accepted/rejected. But always ALWAYS, there were signs/markers of all kinds (like "psychic") along the way. The question being how to perceive or interpret these things. Kinda like catching yourself before splitting. OSIT.
Shared Joy
Jedi Council Member
A Jay said:
Hi A Jay,
could you please post the interview you are talking about ?
I found an interesting article about bank, kind of hard for me to understand their "language" but this is straightforward and realistic:
http://www.austriancenter.com/blog/2013/10/11/charalambakis-we-should-have-left-the-banks-die/#.VOXM-uaUffI
Thanks!
Joy
Shared Joy said:
A Jay and Shared Joy,
While I have tried to second guess many of the tactics being used by the STS/PTB planners I think as the C's say in Session 19 July 2014 "The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately anticipated so easily.".
Although we should "observe reality left and right" I don't think it is so easily determined just what the reality/truth is these days.
While John Charalamkis may be sincere in his dialectic view of the banking situation I doubt that his step by step recovery plan would be adopted much less be accepted by the PTB. He still says there is no need to do away with the FED. In his view the central banking system just went astray by going away from the Gold standard and we should just gradually go back to real assets over a 3 year time period. He seems to think that the private banks should have been left to die:
While I might agree with not doing the bail-outs for the "private" banks holding onto the Federal Reserve still doesn't correct the basic problem of the fiat money.
If we are just second guessing my take on the financial situation is based on not just looking at what the tactics may be but trying to determine the overall agenda. I doubt that John Caralamkis has heard of the C's or has any interest in what they would have to say about the banking systems. I have tried to research the various aspects of what the heck are the PTB are doing but it seems like trying to nail down jello sometimes. I find myself going back to the sessions with the C's for clues about what to expect as I try to observe the events. I don't think the details/tactics are very predictable but the agenda (Agenda 21? anyone?) is more unswerving, although even the agenda may change as well I suspect.
Here is what the C's say about the banking and control system in Session 16 October 1994:
While I do see some of the possible scenarios of what the agenda/agendas of PTB/4DSTS may be, I see that "balance" in the form of "change" is greatly needed. I admit that I have concerns for my family and friends who don't seem to even want a clue about the future.
One thing I have noticed in most of the articles, videos and alternative news sites is that they seem to rarely speak of the earth "changes" or cosmic events in relation to future events. I think this may be the biggest missing piece not included in the speculation of what is to come. It might be that we will see some Cosmic "markers" that will up the ante so to speak.
I apologize for the lengthy reply. I almost didn't reply because I tend to get too detailed. :(
