Session 7 February 2015

Grail Keeper said:
Hi goyacobol:-) There are several issues that i woud like to cover
1. I am not trying to convince anyone that what i receive in my communications is 100% STO or true to the last word:-) Just laying out the facts and sharing the knowledge:-)
2. I am as much of a sceptic as any critical member of this forum:-) And as Laura said many many times you can't trust anyoneand have to test anyone who gives you knowledge of any kind:-) And certainly there is no free lunch:-)
3.My communication have lasted to this day for almost five years and as the C's proved themselves by time to be a reliable source with a good probability for STO inclination so did my friendand informer:-) Though i d rather call him my teacher just as some students of martial arts call their teachers:-) Or my advisor:-) :cool:
4.Though i have to admit that he was not always precise in his predictions due to time complications and the free will factor most of what he told turned out as hesaid and still keeps going in that direction.As for the info that he gave me on history cosmology genetics and many other subjects including densities coincides almost 90 % with the C's and other sources except for some discrepancies in terminology:-) Thus my knowledge of those topics consists mainly of what was said by the C's and other identical sources and later confirmed by my teacher-friend so as to make the picture complete:-) :D
5.And finally i would be so glad to share with all of you the info he gives me for our common good if of course you are not against it:-) After all sharing is caring and knowledge protects:-) :) :P

Grail Keeper,

I guess your description of your "master of some spiritual kung-fu" and "member of some underground brotherhood" who looks like a young Dolph Lundgren sounds kind of Nordic.

Would you like to elaborate on the differences in "density" terminology of your contact from how the C's describe it? :/

I agree that "After all sharing is caring and knowledge protects". :)
 
Hi goyacobol:-) But of course:-) i would be delighted to do so:-) Well by the time my nordic friend who asked me to call him simply G. toldme about his concept of densities i already had a slight notion of them from various sources:-) But when i asked him at the very start of our communications what he could tell me or confirm if knew anything about the existence of such theories he said practically the same as what i had already learned by that time:-) Only difference is that he called them the layers or the levels. As a matter of fact i live in Russia as you have already found out i presume but due to my higher education i can read and speak and write in english as well rather fluently and so we had a nice pleasant correspondence for some time using both languages albeit he imho needed none because of his outstanding telepathic capabilities:-) Well speaking of the densities he also told about the seven layers of Creation or seven spheres:-) About the same residents dwelled in those spheres as it was given by other sources:-) He said that the deeper you go down in your awareness the more you are lulled to some form of unconsciousness:-) Much like seeing a dream in a dream:-) Inception movie by Nolan you see:-) ? Those who care to wake up kind of climb out of their slumber state and the more layers you shed from yourselves the greater is your awareness:-) And the nearer you are to the ultimate objective understanding of true nature of the so called reality:-)
 
Grail Keeper,
Interesting info, but have you wondered why would you are getting this information? What exactly does your friend intend you to do with this information- and why is he still "here" if he knows so much? If you have asked him this, what was his reply? It would be interesting to learn of his aim, to see where he is coming from.

As for a simple test, maybe you can ask to videotape his levitation. I'm wondering if he is actually sort of hypnotizing you, like what authority hypnotizes society, and magicians hypnotize the audience to believe their tricks. A video would help bring some objectivity to a physical matter such as levitation. That's why the C's say networking is important, because any one of us- can trick ourselves to see things that may not be there!

Just some things that would make me second guess things, like the C's also have emphasized that whatever they say, should be verified. Of course we cannot verify the higher densities, so in that sense, it means we could be mislead or what not.

One thing I want to bring up that may or may not be an issue: You keep using " :-) " happy faces after each line. It is kind of distracting and confusing. Do you know why you are putting these faces after most sentences and why a period " . " would not suffice?
 
Hi Grail Keeper,
Do you have a blog or website where you report your findings and predictions? If so, you can consider putting a link for anyone interested. If you do not have such a blog, you could consider putting in the effort to make one. It seems to me that you are derailing this thread, which is about discussion regarding the C's session transcript.
 
CelticWarrior said:
miharo said:
January 7, 1996
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A: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately anticipated so easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow, and they are aware of prophetic and philosophical patterning and usually shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed futures.

So, maybe better no anticipation. For what it's worth. ;-)

I have to wholeheartedly agree here. The future is quite uncertain in such a chaotic realm we live in as it is.


A: No haste for that which comes to bring balance to your realm

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A: Nothing, however, will stop the balancing. The only question is where the disasters fall and that is partly determined by the observers.

A: 4 months will reveal dramatic change.

Q: (Pierre) June. Dramatic change in what field?

A: All you get!

(Scottie) Yeah, I could have told you that some dramatic changes were coming over the next 4 months. I mean, just look at the world...

Still from the above, I'm somewhat curious about the degree of dramatic change that will, in whatever way, enable balancing. I'm reminded of the Wave;

The idea of a cosmic event taking place in the early 21st century has been seeping into increasingly general circulation ever since the late 19th century. Gurdjieff, for instance, makes veiled references to such a thing when speaking of a time allotted for certain preparation to take place on Earth.

And

The QFS suggests that in the specific volatile circumstances corresponding to the waterfall, the quality of observation contributed to the process by the participants may make a large change in the outcome. This outcome may involve passage between densities, for example. Another example may be a split in timelines, as in the many worlds interpretation of quantum physics. Thus persons embracing one mode of being may literally end up in a different reality than other persons.

The processes in question are not strictly physical, although physical chaos is one likely reflection of the wider process. The process is seen as a macrocosmic quantum jump, determined by conscious observation. Just like the observation event is needed to force a quantum system to a specific state, observation is needed to guide the events inside the Wave.

So, the question remains... where the disasters fall. The results may reveal harmony between certain densities for a limited period or some other form of quantum shift after such chaos has been endured and observed critically. OR... a mass vision to the Western population that has Putin's head on a an angelic entity revealing his true colours in contrast with psychopathic agenda (uhh nah). But, in seriousness I'd say preparation is key, and what better way to be prepared than the journey we continue to participate in, in which this forum among other priorities keeps hope alive.

Thank you all, for the transcript first, and for you comments. And thank you Celtic Warrior, for summing up the above info.

I thought a lot about these sentences - maybe it is just the way of transmitting the different meaning of time into this linear world of ours, where we are so keen to have schedules, predictions, etc.

I think that four months could be anytime not just the following months. And I further think that as long as we have fears we will try to find a good excuse for doing or not doing something, so we will be anticipating (even if we swear we don't).

What do I fear? I think pretty much it is the same thing for everyone, like this quote would state:


”Only after disaster can we be resurrected. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. Nothing is static, everything is evolving, everything is falling apart. Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

And what is a disaster? I think is like meeting with a discontinuity where you were used to find continuity (that is a routine by which all we experience could be deemed as our own (real or adopted, material or spiritual: believes, property, friends, family,physical health, etc).

Impermanence is not obvious, yet there is. And it scares me, now and then, to see that things I think I own/know, could become a problem. For example, if I think that a client has a case similar to another I already dealt with, well then, I would fail to perform as good as I would do when I would be taken by surprise. I don't mean I'm not on a continuous learning spree, but sometimes I am facing pretty dire situations and sometimes I can handle these situation much more inspired, than those which seemed to be repeating. I guess these are due to an attitude of "sleeping", as I was not fully there, so I missed the great opportunity of being open and empty to receive the so called "wu vei - non action" benefits.
By the way, non-action means not doing nothing - instead, all you do is inspired, natural and whole - nothing can disturb you precious peace of mind, nothing can throw you into emotional upheavals. You are serene, alert, yet relaxed and your consciousness is expanded beyond known limits.

How comfortable predictability is! We need some kind of predictability, faith, memories, things we could rely on. Perhaps that's why we were advised by the C's to act by anticipating and taking action. I also think that after preparing for worse and taking preventive actions, we shall not anticipate that those things anticipated will not happen.

And yet" fear not, and be true to yourself" - I thing this yourself needs a lot of work done before we could relate to "us" properly. It is us who decide that what we're just facing is an "opportunity or a disaster".
FWIW. Joy
 
in four month time it can be public riots in poland due to presidential election here. We have already some civil unrest here. Farmer and miners protest. More and more we see how this government is twisted. There is Nostradamus prediction about this and our future general dictator. Why poland? Because Ukraine US proxies are loosing war in donbas. There is prediction about Polish us military intervention in ukraine. As long we have some historical issues there it can be interesting. Second thing is a day of judgment. Hopi prophercy about blue hatchina and a second chance from god. Those are my feeling about. Show must go on.
 
"Do not store skewer, while the rabbit is still in the woods" -Greece, Iceland, Italy, Germany, France ..., some are more disintegrated, the other sliding toward being disbanded.
June will be interesting, obviously.
Maybe you'd prepare spit in advance?
 
Grail Keeper said:
Hi riclapaz:-) much as i said earlier i have been in close communication with a person who introduced himself later as a member of some underground brotherhood or some community of people who i could describe judging by what they do and believe in as what the C's described as bidensity aryans with advanced psychic abilities:-) all of this i wrot earlier on this thread:-) what i would like to add is that during this almost 5year communication nearly 90 percent of his info or predictions and tendencies turned out to be correct or consistent with a lot of other sources:-) let alone that what he said was almost identical with the info giiven by the C's:-) except for some discrepancies in terminology:-) for me it was like some studying with the master of some spiritual kung-fu:-) and even now i can address him anytime with my questions which he might answer or sometimes refrain with no comment:-) Go figure:-) :) :cool:

Well, it's all very interesting. I suggest you create a thread about this person and just post his declarations in there and the DATES attached to them for observation/validation purposes and let us "test" this source adequately. Otherwise, it's not useful to bring in "mysterious claims" about which the rest of us can have no certainty.

Thanks.
 
Dear Laura:-) Thank you so much for your interest and your advice:-) I think i will surely create here a thread or even maybe a blog as it was suggested to me earlier:-) As for what obyvatel and divide by zero suggested in their posts earlier i ve got the following to say.
1. By no means do i intend to derail the thread or somehow confuse any of the forum members. Free will is as always for all of us an imperative above all. Just trying to share some of my knowledge with others:-)
2.And as for those little smiley faces i am sorry. Mea culpa as they say. Can't seem to get rid of the habit to add them all the time at the end of each phrase.
After all much thanks to everyone for your comments and those little pieces of advice :)
 
Phew! :) Thanks for another fascinating session - as others have commented, it's almost as if the C's are there just to chip in every now and then, as if you are now able to answer your own questions fully, that you are merging.

Take care y'all :flowers:
 
Great session! I've been attempting to read as many books on religion as possible although it is slow-moving. I'm still back on Bart Ehrman and just finished the book on the criticisms of his book "Did Jesus Exist?" And that discussion is an eye-opener. He deserves to be slammed for that book! My opinion on him is that someone is paying him good money to write a book like that after reading his previous books. Laura's critique on him was right on target. A friend of mine wanted to me to read Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ," so I did and he is as bad as Ehrman. Earl Doherty wrote a book critiquing Strobel called "Challenging the Verdict."
This discussion on Paul is fascinating and I have to say that even learning about the history, the timeline, the languages, the political events is just as fun to learn about as the major characters. I keep these discussions in mind as I'm reading the material, and I've really enjoyed reading Frank Zindler's essays in the book regarding Ehrman.

The fact that the US is trying to reignite the Cold War scenario with Russia could be more about a divide and conquer strategy regarding China. I see China being much more of a threat to US interests. Not a word is said about them whereas the focus has been on Putin. So far Ukraine is not going how the US hoped it would, oil price slashing is not working on Russia like the US hoped it would and now Europe's leaders are looking like they are ready to jump ship and side with Russia. If the US wants to continue down this path with Russia they are going to have to resort to false flag events to really ramp up a war cry, but considering how involved they are in the Middle East can they afford to ramp up efforts against Russia? If they believe they have isolated Syria and Iran will they then think they are in the right position to focus more on Russia? Plus, the oil prices are starting to impact the US economy in a big way, the dry baltic index is at an all time low, and it would seem like the US economy is being primed for a big hit. It shouldn't take long for something big to unfold considering how crazy the world already is!

All of that said with out one word about the weather!
 
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the dry baltic index is at an all time low,
findit, the Baltic Dry Index is that low because of a tremendous overcapacity of containerships.
Particularly in the Far East those ships are build in great numbers right now.
Normally around Chinese New Year cargo rate is going down and a drop in prices is normal. It did not happen this year. Ergo: World trade is still at high level.
Baltic Dry Index is not a suitable indicator for global economic well-being.
 
findit said:
Great session! I've been attempting to read as many books on religion as possible although it is slow-moving. I'm still back on Bart Ehrman and just finished the book on the criticisms of his book "Did Jesus Exist?" And that discussion is an eye-opener. He deserves to be slammed for that book! My opinion on him is that someone is paying him good money to write a book like that after reading his previous books. Laura's critique on him was right on target. A friend of mine wanted to me to read Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ," so I did and he is as bad as Ehrman. Earl Doherty wrote a book critiquing Strobel called "Challenging the Verdict."

Funny! I just finished yesterday Robert Price's "The Case Against the Case For Christ" and LORDY! Was it ever a great read. Price really knows his stuff and whupped up on those idiots! He uses a lot of pop culture metaphors and examples that really make it entertaining.

findit said:
This discussion on Paul is fascinating and I have to say that even learning about the history, the timeline, the languages, the political events is just as fun to learn about as the major characters. I keep these discussions in mind as I'm reading the material, and I've really enjoyed reading Frank Zindler's essays in the book regarding Ehrman.

Yes, Zindler is another gem. I got his whole set of "Through Athiest Eyes" though I haven't attacked it yet. Just the extracts he mentioned in the book you have just read made me want to read it because he's found a lot of things that makes the Caesar/Paul case even stronger, IMO. I've learned more from Price and Zindler than I ever learned from Ehrman.
 
Well what i wanted to say just in addition to what i have already written here is the following. :-) My friend told me many times when i would ask him about the geopolitical future of our world that Russia's role in times of great distress and chaos in all spheres is to become a sanctuary for almost hundreds of millions of people from Europe and even the USA:-) He said that the situation is going to look like some typical Titanic movie scene when everybody is in panic and are ready to kill one another for a place in a lifeboat. And at that time Russia even with all of its major drawbacks as a country would look for others like a lifeboat or some Ark.Many millions of refugees would rush from all sides here to find a sanctuary but not in big cities for they are doomed as well but in some smaller ones. And this he told me nearly half a year ago.

Naturally i asked him a question which was voiced by the crew only in the recent session. Namely i wanted to know if anyone of the SOTT team or the Chateau crew incl.Laura would move to Russia too when all of that reaches its climax and he said that in the field of probabilities that he sees this is true for more than 80 percent and the rest depends solely just as in any other case on free will albeit this probability is very strong. But if and when this happens the collective power of what the C's called the tribal unit and he called this the dynasty network is going to be strenghthened hundredfold because of some proximity to many potential new members of this group who will join later and partly because of the profile of highly compatible positive energies of the future residence location.

So all of this i have known for almost half a year and seeing it in the recent session was for me quite a surprise.
 
Grail Keeper said:
So all of this i have known for almost half a year and seeing it in the recent session was for me quite a surprise.

So, are you busy helping the translation team get our materials into Russian?
 
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