Show #15: No Ordinary Inside Job: The 9/11 Psy-Ops

Joe, so the things I've observed over the years are just me being emotional, but the things Judy Wood has observed are just her observations?

I would like to think that I am also capable of making an objective observation about someone's behavior based upon what I see them do with my own eyes over an extended period of time.
It's a little surprising to me that, as closely as the SOTT team has monitored the shenanigans going on within the 9/11 'truth' and 'research' circles that you would all be so unfamiliar with the shenanigans of Judy Wood after all this time.

But what do I know, I've only watched these people operate for years. Your points are well taken.
 
Guardian said:
Pashalis said:
Well you see, I actually did take the time and have listened to the whole part she was on again
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I've listened to it twice, and I think you're just hearing what you want to hear.

Again, wasn't someone actually making a transcript of the show?
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Yes, I think herondancer is.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31252.msg414458.html#msg414458
 
Kniall said:
That wasn't a "proof" of anything. It was an observation.
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Then why is it on her "evidence" page?

_http://drjudywood.com/articles/short/evidence.html

"If workers' boots melted because the ground was so hot, would their feet have survived? Answer: No. Their feet would have been cooked."
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This is NOT true, and all she had to do was look up "heat resistant boots" to learn about ceramic insoles and liners.
 
Guardian said:
Pashalis said:
Well you see, I actually did take the time and have listened to the whole part she was on again
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I've listened to it twice, and I think you're just hearing what you want to hear.
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Well that is funny because I think you're actually the one who is hearing what you want to hear in that case.:P
Remember those three accusation or points you made wich I think are not that way.

Funny how things go sometimes, isn't it. ;)

So let's check, I would say. Maybe I'm wrong about those three points, but I really think I'm not.

But of course I could be wrong....

One of the most important things to have always in mind is that we almost always can not see things objectively on our own. So always keep the possibility in mind that your perception of things can be false. That is why such a network like this is so very valuable.
 
Bluelamp said:
Yes, I think herondancer is.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31252.msg414458.html#msg414458
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Hallelujah! If I had to listen to that show again, I think I'd vomit.
 
Lisa Guliani said:
Joe, so the things I've observed over the years are just me being emotional, but the things Judy Wood has observed are just her observations?

I would like to think that I am also capable of making an objective observation about someone's behavior based upon what I see them do with my own eyes over an extended period of time.
It's a little surprising to me that, as closely as the SOTT team has monitored the shenanigans going on within the 9/11 'truth' and 'research' circles that you would all be so unfamiliar with the shenanigans of Judy Wood after all this time.

But what do I know, I've only watched these people operate for years. Your points are well taken.
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Not at all Lisa. The point I am trying to make is that it's possible that because you have had personal negative experience with Wood, you're a bit more alarmed at us crediting her book than you might normally be if you hadn't had that experience. Then again, since I'm just talking from my own perspective here and know that if I had a reason to be pissed at someone my view of anything to do with them would be colored, I could be just projecting that on to you. You may well be able to be more objective about Wood's work precisely because you had direct personal experience of her. But either way, I think the real issue here is whether or not Wood is peddling disinfo in terms of the content of her book, and that can be best determined, I think, by studying the content.
 
Perceval said:
But either way, I think the real issue here is whether or not Wood is peddling disinfo in terms of the content of her book, and that can be best determined, I think, by studying the content.
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Is her book any different from what's on her website?
 
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
But either way, I think the real issue here is whether or not Wood is peddling disinfo in terms of the content of her book, and that can be best determined, I think, by studying the content.
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Is her book any different from what's on her website?
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How about checking the book out and discovering it for yourself? Maybe you can find out more?
 
Pashalis said:
How about checking the book out and discovering it for yourself? Maybe you can find out more?
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Again, because I can NOT trust the contents of the book due to the interview and the material on her website.

I won't read her book for the EXACT same reasons I don't read VB, JW, etc. books. I do not waste my time on disinfo.
 
This thread is very emotional. All other threads contain bits of info from authors. Why are the folks saying "well ya gotta read it to understand" not posting why they say this? Give me some meat please. Yes, the radio show was head ache but, why is their no posting of the work being defended. I so far have not learned anything!
 
Horseofadifferentcolor said:
This thread is very emotional. All other threads contain bits of info from authors. Why are the folks saying "well ya gotta read it to understand" not posting why they say this? Give me some meat please. Yes, the radio show was head ache but, why is their no posting of the work being defended. I so far have not learned anything!
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Well I think most here a pretty calm and not really emotional, or at least I hope so.
We just want to find out the truth regardless of how it turns out at the end.
So you might want to look into why you think it is "very emotional". Maybe it is really in part that way for some? I don't know?
Maybe others can jump in and give their assessment?
But I for one don't feel emotionally invested in either side.

I just feel the need to point out when I think things are twisted or misunderstood thanks to not understanding/reading the material and then making assumptions about it of wich some don't seem to be true. And hearing and seeing things I don't think are there. If it turns out that I or anyone else is wrong, so be it. It is all for the good. Learning and discovering is fun, you know. It can only help us to get to the meat, as you put it. And also to the bottom of our own thinking patterns OSIT

And the meat as you might suspect already is in large portion, suprise suprise, in the book. And you can't really understand it as long as you haven't read it OSIT :halo:

But yeah we already know or at least should know that and also that others disagree or think that we are mislead here in some way.

So yeah to recap that over and over again doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore OSIT.
 
I don't see anything emotional in here - what I see is that there are two lines of thought but the bright side is that we are going to gain some information about what is really going on.
 
Joe, Laura, you all voice the opinion, quite adamantly, that Judy's book should be read.
And because I have the highest respect for you guys, I will try to get hold of a copy. Though I must admit, I will be reading it with a jaundiced and highly critical eye.
From what Guardian has found out about her, and Lisa's experience with Ms Wood, I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw her, conscious or unconscious agent.
But you're right, let's get her book, read it and subject it to rigorous and objective discussion, and separate the wheat from the chaff.
 
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