Smoking is... good?

[Bo]

Today I have tried my first cigarrete,

There is a store near me which sells American Spirits, and I decided to start with the yellow package(the light version), it was a very interesting observation!

Before lighting the cigarrete up, I felt scared, and I was thinking about lung cancer and all of those mental programming that has been installed in our minds.

After I inhaled the first time, the fear dissapeared and I suddenly felt like a tough guy(hey look at me , I am smoking , I am tough guy'') , LOL! , it was really an interesting observation to see how several programs suddenly started to surface when I was smoking this.

After a few more inhaling I started to feel less tired, energetic and light in the head, this lasted for 10 minutes, but I also feel like that I really don't need smoking, but I will experiment with this package of American Spirits and see how my body responds, I started smoking , because I had an urge to smoke for some time, I think this has been related to some stress from previous weeks.

I will see how my body responds to this.

Hi Bo, American Spirits are generally stronger than comparable popular brands. I think it's because they contain more tobacco per cigarette. If you find the light version too strong, there is also an American Spirit Ultra-Light than comes in a yellow and white box. Since you are just experimenting it might not matter much...just wanted to let you know in case you decide to buy more.

Thanks for the EE Guide/FAQ! I found it very helpful :)

Hi justin, is that a bad thing? that they contain more tobacco, because the reason I wanted to start with american spirit is because they contain no additives like Marlboro, L&M and stuff, when I was in that store, I saw like 5(i think it was 5?) different American spirit colours, so I asked the guy behind the counter to explain the colours to me,

He told that blue was the strongest and that yellow was the light version, so I decided to start with the light version. I will ask about the ultra-light version if I decide to buy more.

Thanks :)

 

[Al Today]

Howdy all,
I gotta jump in to say: I like the yellow, blue, red, and black packs. Seems they all have different variations of flavor and tobacco concentrations (strength). The black pack is a sort of after dinner smoke for me. Ahhh... Nice... This body enjoys a good smoke... Smoking is not for everybody.


edit: American Spirit tobacco I mean...

 

[Bo]

One thing I learned today, don't smoke in the morning on an empty stomach, my god I felt kind of disorientated for a while

 

[Justin]

Hi justin, is that a bad thing? that they contain more tobacco, because the reason I wanted to start with american spirit is because they contain no additives like Marlboro, L&M and stuff, when I was in that store, I saw like 5(i think it was 5?) different American spirit colours, so I asked the guy behind the counter to explain the colours to me,

He told that blue was the strongest and that yellow was the light version, so I decided to start with the light version. I will ask about the ultra-light version if I decide to buy more.

Thanks :)

Hi Bo, More tobacco is not a bad thing but it might make the smoking experience more intense for someone who is just starting to smoke. Some people get really dizzy and nauseous when they first try smoking, and that can make the overall experience less positive. That's why I mentioned that American Spirits are stronger. You might not need or want cigarettes that strong at the beginning. It's really a personal preference thing and the others factors come into play when smoking, like how deeply you inhale and how often you inhale.

Here is an explanation of the American Spirit products and the corresponding box colors:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_American_Spirit

In my experience, not all retailers carry every type. There are two organic brands that supposedly contain tobacco grown without pesticides, herbicides and chemicals. The organic brands are, unfortunately, even more expensive than the other America Spirit brands.

Good luck with your smoking experiment! :)

 

[JAKSUN]

Hi Jacksun

I can certainly relate to your experience. The same happened
to me after a long absence. I had vertigo and spun around
a bit but after awhile it abates. I am not saying it goes away
completely, as it depends on how much one smoke and over
doing it brings it back. So, perhaps one needs to learn to
regulate intake by "listening" to your body, or so it seems.

Smoking as I write, and "I think, therefore I am", or so I think!

I think you is right dant. My body is slowly tolerating more with less discomfort. And I am sure my thinking process has improved a little. The tobacco is still making me a little spinney at times - but I seem to be more 'together' and it also seems to reduce my perceived 'need' to [removed by moderator][

And another funny thing is that I have always kept near people who smoke. Some food for my thought processes to digest.

 

[JAKSUN]

Jacksun, you can rehydrate the tobacco and it will smoke much smoother. Put enough for a few days in a container than can be sealed. I use a plastic food container. Take a paper towel and moisten it. Then lay it across the top of the container and seal the container with the top. Leave it for 24 hours.

It may take some experimenting to see how much water to use. It depends upon how much tobacco you have and how moist you like it.

But if you continue to have these reactions, it may mean that your body doesn't need it. A number of members have found that when they do the EE breathing regularly, they need fewer cigarettes.

Good advice I will follow directly thank you Galahad.

As I have mentioned in my previous post, my body is coping much better after a few days of intake. Also of note, is that since beginning with the tobacco, my meditation has been much much deeper and restful - oohh so nice! :). My tobacco consumption has increased to about 3/day and with it, a lot of restlessness has gone - I think that possibly the affect of HCV(though in the light of the new information on HIV/AIDS I am suspicious that the whole HCV thing is another scam) on my cognitive system has been lessened, my concentration has improved and I am able to stay awake and 'work' longer in the evenings. But it is hard to say exactly what is effecting what, because there are many factors including EE(though I have been advised to no longer do the full program due to liver issues - but I cheat sometimes).

I'm gonna hydrate my tobacco stash and rock on; blow the cover off this soul.

Blessings to all. :)

 

[tom32071]

I was really glad to find out that smoking wasn't all that bad. I've thought about quitting but never very seriously.

 

[slowone]

Hi,

After giving smoking another go, I've decided it's not for me.

I used to be a 20 a day smoker about 12 years ago but gave up. I don't know if for me it's a physical incompatibility or that I still can't lose the programming that's it's 'bad' for me, but it makes me feel really anxious and generally 'low'.

Plus I can't keep my smoking down to just 2 or 3 a day and any more makes me feel ill I definitely have an addictive reaction. For the same reason I don't want to use Nicotine replacements, I end up thinking about nothing else!

Is there anything nonsmokers can do that would give comparable benefits in respect of enhanced brain function/concentration.

I already practice the EE regularly and would like to think that perhaps this practice gives comparable though not identical benefits. Just wondering what you all thought.

I'm really torn about it today, I don't want to smoke but it's hard not to want the benefits it seems to offer.

 

[henry]

Don't feel torn. If your body doesn't want it, don't worry about it!

Are you doing the Éiriú Eolas breathing programme? Some members are finding they are smoking less with it, and there is some evidence that the stimulation of the vagus nerve by breathing exercises is providing the same benefits are the nicotine.

 

[slowone]

Don't feel torn. If your body doesn't want it, don't worry about it!

Are you doing the Éiriú Eolas breathing programme? Some members are finding they are smoking less with it, and there is some evidence that the stimulation of the vagus nerve by breathing exercises is providing the same benefits are the nicotine.

Thanks for that Galahad. I Do indeed practice the Eiriu Eolas breathing programme as suggested and have since it was introduced.

I hope it proves to be the case that people who are unable to smoke will be able to derive similar benefits in terms of the vagus nerve stimulation by EE as smokers do by nicotine. It's hard when there is something that might help you progress in the work but for some reason it turns out to be not for you.

But as I enjoy the EE very much it's no hardship to continue with :)

 

[ana]

I hope it proves to be the case that people who are unable to smoke will be able to derive similar benefits in terms of the vagus nerve stimulation by EE as smokers do by nicotine. It's hard when there is something that might help you progress in the work but for some reason it turns out to be not for you.

But as I enjoy the EE very much it's no hardship to continue with :)

Hi slowone, I don't smoke since two years ago, and now, I can not imagine myself smoking, in my case was not only the physical health "stomach" but my negative to depend on a substance. Breathing and meditation help me to be healthy and with no anxiety and is another way to save money... :P

 

[go2]

Re: Lyme and Smoking

Hi Odyssey

Lady Barbara's Garden has some great pictures of the teasel plant and information
on using teasel to treat lyme disease. She has recovered from lyme disease contracted
when gardening in upstate New York. I spotted a large patch of teasel yesterday and am
going to dig some roots and prepare a tincture.

Lyme disease is difficult to diagnosis as the tests often give false results. I noticed
that teasel root tincture in larger dosages induces a Herxheimer reaction..
Do you think it advisable to use the Herxheimer reaction as a diagnostic tool for lyme?

 

[theos]

Re: Lyme and Smoking

Do you think it advisable to use the Herxheimer reaction as a diagnostic tool for lyme?

I doubt that it would stand up to medical review but perhaps for your own benefit or as a way to narrow down a probable diagnosis...it may just be something to keep in mind when you try the teasel.

I've been to Lady Barbara's site. She does have some good info on teasel and other herbs as well.

My three batches are still marinating on my windowsill. I think I may go get some more roots before the ground freezes. Never know who'll need some in the future. Of course, there are a few places online to buy the teasel but I find it enjoyable to experiment and make some things myself. I think the skills will come in handy.

 

[Bo]

How deep do you guys inhale? (the smoke)

 

[Al Today]

Well... I'm an old timer regular smoker and depth just depends. If sitting quietly I inhale quite deeply, using the diaphram. Enjoying the moment. Sometimes when driving I inhale without thinking about it. I don't use a bong or anything like that with cigarettes... I don't smoke a cigarette like trying to ultra inhale/deeply/capture all I can within the lungs for maximum effect, if that makes any sense???