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Sounds like she bought a "shooter", which is not for beginners who haven't used a rolling machine like that before. The shooters do require arm strength too. You might want to get her a different roller, the kind that you can just use your thumbs to spin the roller/paper and needs much less strength.

Yes that is exactly what it is - and the one you show looks much easier to use and probably cheaper. Am going to look for that and some thin papers. I assume you can insert filters as well? She smokes enough that buying Am Spirit is cost prohibitive.
Thank you!
 
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.

Perhaps a pipe might be better? No papers needed?

I also wonder if there are "tobacco papers" made from
natural tobacco and not some other kind of "paper"?
 
Lyme and Smoking

Just wanted to share my story about Lyme and me, with you guys. EDIT
Basically I self diagnosed myself with Lyme disease. The symptoms crawled up slowly and after a slow decline in my health, I realized I have something. Did some research and most of my symptoms fit the Lyme description. I went to multiple doctors and got a full blood tests and basically there telling me, that I'm perfectly healthy! That its all in my head!!!(have some history with depression and OCD). I know its not, because I'm losing weight, have non stop ear ringing, have vision problems and the list goes on! Right now, I'm trying to find a LLD. Sometimes I feel, how nice it would be to leave this illusion:halo:. As for improving my health, I'm taking supplements, trying to eliminate all toxic food from my diet, and started urine therapy. I also tried many other things like the zapper, but no help. :cry: However I have this feeling or somehow I know that I will heal, but I must be patient. I usually never share my problems with anyone, but I just had to get this out for some reason.

I also started smoking to relax and just get away from life. I smoke Native American Spirits and I must say I enjoy smoking. :)
This is whats on my mind, lol.
 
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As for improving my health, I'm taking supplements, trying to eliminate all toxic food from my diet,

Way to go!

and started urine therapy.

??? I will be interested know if and if so, in what way this has helped. I have not yet read through the post on the health thread about this urine therapy, but in my mind ... as I try to reason this out, I imagine that you are just re-feeding the same in tact protiens/toxins right back in to your body. Want to know if you feel better or worse from doing this.

I also tried many other things like the zapper, but no help. Cry However I have this feeling or somehow I know that I will heal, but I must be patient.

Without yet having a conclusive way of knowing what will work and being able to make a choice about how to use it, perhaps is it worth considering the idea that the choice you CAN make right now, is to NOT GIVE UP. (if that is what you want) I know what it feels like to fight through a physically and mentally debilitating illness. It's exausting and yeah... there are moments when you just want relief from feeling so rotten. My own mantra through the worst moments has been, "just hold on, nothing lasts forever. Everything changes."

That being said, I did some research for a friend of mine a few years ago, who has chronic lyme disease and while his symptoms are more centered in the lower extremeties, the following may still be of some help, or at least they could be a jumping off point for you to do further research.

The first one is a very particular form of Cats Claw. Uncarea Tomentosa. Most Cats Claw has a variety of constituents classified as TOA's, which are known to be damaging to the liver, and generally wipe out whatever benefit the rest of the plant has to offer. There are only two products on the market that are derived from this particular form of cats claw, and who also remove the TOA compounds. Saventaro and Savento. It is an immunomodulator/stimulator that has been shown in trials to pretty much wipe out Lyme in 85% of the people who took it. 600mg a day for six months, though they recommend 8 to 12 months for good measure. It's safe for long term use. In the beginning, you could experience what is termed, the Herxheimer effect or 'stirring'. It's basicly a die-off effect where the toxins of dying microbes are released to circulate through the body and make you feel really awful for a time. With that in mind, they recommend starting at the lowest possible dose and gradually increasing it to keep from feeling like doo-doo. Taking a fiber suppliment or bentonite clay can also help with absorbing some of the toxins and pulling them from the body. (Dont take them at the same time or the fiber or clay will just absorb the cats claw ... or any other medicine for that matter)

The others are homeopathics (which I find endlessly fascinating!) There are three that seem to have the most promise, and a fourth that helps many. Ledum Palustre (Labradore Tea) dominates the lower extremities. Kalmia Latifolia (Mountain Laurel) more known to be helpful in the shoulder and hip regions, (those first two are both from the Heath family) and Rhododendron Chrysanthum and Gautheria.

Homeopathics stimilate your body to heal its self without being burdened by your body's defensive mechanisms. It works on the principle of like cures like, so it is based on symptoms. For instance, if I got poison ivy I might take Rhus Tox (homeopathic poison ivy), which would also work on any symptom similar to those caused by poison ivy. Not to simplify a very complex art, as a professional homeopath would take EVERYthing into account including your emotions and general constitution. But FYI, homeopathics are extremely diluted, and there is actually very little of the original 'substance' found in the end product.

Also, you may have noticed that the homeopathic version of a substance is always listed in Latin. There are some rules for how to use homeopathics most effectively. If you have an interest in this, let me know and I will elaborate further.

Hope this is of some help to you :)

~Lar
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

LoveAndLight said:
Basically I self diagnosed myself with Lyme disease.

Lyme disease is an inflammatory disease spread by deer ticks.. Borrelia burgdorferi is a spirochete bacteria that causes Lyme disease. It infects human beings through the saliva of the deer tick. There is more information here. I have taken the blood tests after being bitten by deer ticks a number of times. I have friends who have lyme disease. The remarkable fact is they all have different symptoms that mimic other diseases. How did you diagnose yourself? Do you recall being bitten by a deer tick? Do you live in an area where lyme disease is a problem?
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

Lauranimal said:
As for improving my health, I'm taking supplements, trying to eliminate all toxic food from my diet,

Way to go!

and started urine therapy.

??? I will be interested know if and if so, in what way this has helped. I have not yet read through the post on the health thread about this urine therapy, but in my mind ... as I try to reason this out, I imagine that you are just re-feeding the same in tact protiens/toxins right back in to your body. Want to know if you feel better or worse from doing this.

I also tried many other things like the zapper, but no help. Cry However I have this feeling or somehow I know that I will heal, but I must be patient.

Without yet having a conclusive way of knowing what will work and being able to make a choice about how to use it, perhaps is it worth considering the idea that the choice you CAN make right now, is to NOT GIVE UP. (if that is what you want) I know what it feels like to fight through a physically and mentally debilitating illness. It's exausting and yeah... there are moments when you just want relief from feeling so rotten. My own mantra through the worst moments has been, "just hold on, nothing lasts forever. Everything changes."

That being said, I did some research for a friend of mine a few years ago, who has chronic lyme disease and while his symptoms are more centered in the lower extremeties, the following may still be of some help, or at least they could be a jumping off point for you to do further research.

The first one is a very particular form of Cats Claw. Uncarea Tomentosa. Most Cats Claw has a variety of constituents classified as TOA's, which are known to be damaging to the liver, and generally wipe out whatever benefit the rest of the plant has to offer. There are only two products on the market that are derived from this particular form of cats claw, and who also remove the TOA compounds. Saventaro and Savento. It is an immunomodulator/stimulator that has been shown in trials to pretty much wipe out Lyme in 85% of the people who took it. 600mg a day for six months, though they recommend 8 to 12 months for good measure. It's safe for long term use. In the beginning, you could experience what is termed, the Herxheimer effect or 'stirring'. It's basicly a die-off effect where the toxins of dying microbes are released to circulate through the body and make you feel really awful for a time. With that in mind, they recommend starting at the lowest possible dose and gradually increasing it to keep from feeling like doo-doo. Taking a fiber suppliment or bentonite clay can also help with absorbing some of the toxins and pulling them from the body. (Dont take them at the same time or the fiber or clay will just absorb the cats claw ... or any other medicine for that matter)

The others are homeopathics (which I find endlessly fascinating!) There are three that seem to have the most promise, and a fourth that helps many. Ledum Palustre (Labradore Tea) dominates the lower extremities. Kalmia Latifolia (Mountain Laurel) more known to be helpful in the shoulder and hip regions, (those first two are both from the Heath family) and Rhododendron Chrysanthum and Gautheria.

Homeopathics stimilate your body to heal its self without being burdened by your body's defensive mechanisms. It works on the principle of like cures like, so it is based on symptoms. For instance, if I got poison ivy I might take Rhus Tox (homeopathic poison ivy), which would also work on any symptom similar to those caused by poison ivy. Not to simplify a very complex art, as a professional homeopath would take EVERYthing into account including your emotions and general constitution. But FYI, homeopathics are extremely diluted, and there is actually very little of the original 'substance' found in the end product.

Also, you may have noticed that the homeopathic version of a substance is always listed in Latin. There are some rules for how to use homeopathics most effectively. If you have an interest in this, let me know and I will elaborate further.

Hope this is of some help to you :)

~Lar

Sorry if my English is bad or unclear.
I just started drinking my urine a few days back so cant say much about it, but I didn't have any negative effects with it. I also had a hard time understanding how your byproduct could heal you, but from what I have read its like a feedback system for your body to use and heal itself.
I am very interested in the info you have provided. I will certainly do research into these remedies. By the way how is your friend doing? Did he also use antibiotics to treat his/her infection?

I have already made the choice not to give up and keep fighting! :) Thank you for help :flowers:
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

go2 said:
LoveAndLight said:
Basically I self diagnosed myself with Lyme disease.

Lyme disease is an inflammatory disease spread by deer ticks.. Borrelia burgdorferi is a spirochete bacteria that causes Lyme disease. It infects human beings through the saliva of the deer tick. There is more information here. I have taken the blood tests after being bitten by deer ticks a number of times. I have friends who have lyme disease. The remarkable fact is they all have different symptoms that mimic other diseases. How did you diagnose yourself? Do you recall being bitten by a deer tick? Do you live in an area where lyme disease is a problem?
Sorry for the wrong word usage. Basically I think have Lyme because I did have a bull eyed rash a while back but ignored it and also I have found ticks in my house! Most of my symptoms do fit the Lyme description. I know Lyme disease mimics other diseases, and I could be wrong what I think I have.

PS: Many times, Lyme tests are not accurate.
 
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Results from lyme test can be very controversial depending on the doctor who is looking at the test results. So ... yes, sometimes results are wrong for no other reason that a doctor is not necesarily a specialist in this area and might be dismissive of subtle factors that can be important.

By the way how is your friend doing? Did he also use antibiotics to treat his/her infection?

Well, that is interesting. He did not pay much attention to the information I gave him and he did not follow it up or look in to it. He went on several rounds of antibiotics and did nothing more than screw up his intestines and immune system in the process. Another year later, he went to a very alternative doctor who uses biometric muscle testing, a form of kinesiology. The doctor tested him for the effectiveness of several things, and the one that came up positive was Cats Claw (two years after I mentioned it) We haven't chatted in quite some time... almost a year. Perhaps it is time to catch up with him and see how well he is faring.

I have already made the choice not to give up and keep fighting! Smiley Thank you for help Flowers

I am glad to hear that you are feeling 'scrappy'. And I am happy to lend a hand whenever I can.
~Lar
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

Lauranimal said:
Results from lyme test can be very controversial depending on the doctor who is looking at the test results. So ... yes, sometimes results are wrong for no other reason that a doctor is not necesarily a specialist in this area and might be dismissive of subtle factors that can be important.

By the way how is your friend doing? Did he also use antibiotics to treat his/her infection?

Well, that is interesting. He did not pay much attention to the information I gave him and he did not follow it up or look in to it. He went on several rounds of antibiotics and did nothing more than screw up his intestines and immune system in the process. Another year later, he went to a very alternative doctor who uses biometric muscle testing, a form of kinesiology. The doctor tested him for the effectiveness of several things, and the one that came up positive was Cats Claw (two years after I mentioned it) We haven't chatted in quite some time... almost a year. Perhaps it is time to catch up with him and see how well he is faring.

I have already made the choice not to give up and keep fighting! Smiley Thank you for help Flowers

I am glad to hear that you are feeling 'scrappy'. And I am happy to lend a hand whenever I can.
~Lar

Hope he feels better. I have Kaiser Permanente and I have to say, that their heath insurance is very poor. I have to go right now but as I do the research, I am sure I will have some questions for you. Thanks again.
 
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Hi Love and Light,

I am gonna be the devil's advocate here but several things from your account of this illness strike me as odd.

I think the question that go2 asked and you never replied - about whether you live in the area where Lyme disease is present might be very important to judge the accuracy of your self diagnosis.

You are right, no Lyme disease test to date is 100% accurate, because each test has its own particular set of shortcomings. But if you done several tests as you are saying and you were infected the chances are Borellia would be detected. Do you know which tests were employed and how many times you did it?
Elisa and Gunderson test have accuracy of over 95 % at least according to the text books. Most other tests are in the range of above 90% which is pretty high. Therefore if you did the test and it's repeated negative maybe your self diagnosis wasn't correct.

I find it very odd that you found ticks in your house as ticks normally do not dwell in the closed surroundings. I am not saying it is not possible just unheard off. Where exactly in your house did you find ticks?
Another important question is do you have rodent's infestation in your house or around the house?

Also do bear in mind if you just spotted the ticks that doesn't necessarily mean that you were infected. Tick needs to be attached on you at least for 12 hours (worst case scenario - in most cases even 24h) before it can infect you with anything.
What happens is that ticks basically infect us when they regurgitate blood back into our system together with their saliva, this can happen only when the tick is full to the brim, and this usually never occurs in less then 12 hours.
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

Corto Maltese said:
Hi Love and Light,

I am gonna be the devil's advocate here but several things from your account of this illness strike me as odd.

I think the question that go2 asked and you never replied - about whether you live in the area where Lyme disease is present might be very important to judge the accuracy of your self diagnosis.

You are right, no Lyme disease test to date is 100% accurate, because each test has its own particular set of shortcomings. But if you done several tests as you are saying and you were infected the chances are Borellia would be detected. Do you know which tests were employed and how many times you did it?
Elisa and Gunderson test have accuracy of over 95 % at least according to the text books. Most other tests are in the range of above 90% which is pretty high. Therefore if you did the test and it's repeated negative maybe your self diagnosis wasn't correct.

I find it very odd that you found ticks in your house as ticks normally do not dwell in the closed surroundings. I am not saying it is not possible just unheard off. Where exactly in your house did you find ticks?
Another important question is do you have rodent's infestation in your house or around the house?

Also do bear in mind if you just spotted the ticks that doesn't necessarily mean that you were infected. Tick needs to be attached on you at least for 12 hours (worst case scenario - in most cases even 24h) before it can infect you with anything.
What happens is that ticks basically infect us when they regurgitate blood back into our system together with their saliva, this can happen only when the tick is full to the brim, and this usually never occurs in less then 12 hours.

Hi Corto Maltese,

I understand where your coming from. I haven’t really thought about this question, because I’ve been really disconnected from my community. Though I should look in to it. Yes my house has a rodent infestation issue, but haven’t dealt with it yet. My parents are very lazy. I found two ticks actually one in my bathroom and one crawling around in the kitchen. I need to push my parents to hire a bug exterminator so we can take care of this issue.

I have gotten many blood tests, but those tests didn’t include the Lyme test. I just got tested for Lyme about three weeks ago and it was negative. I don’t know what type of Lyme test they did, but ill ask them this friday This Friday im going to my doctors and going to ask him, to give me a full MRI.

The main reason why I think I have Lyme is because most of my symptoms match the lyme symptoms. Here are my symptoms : hair loss, weight loss(12 pounds), vison problems, muscle twitching, non stop earring, brain fog, fatigue, numbness, and also tingling sensations in my hands and feet. I know your not a doctor but I just wanted to list them down, to see what you think.

I might be probably wrong with my diagnose, because Lyme mimics so many other diseases. However I know I have some type of disease so I will watch my diet carefully and take supplements that I need to take this sucker out! I also will keep researching. Any input will be helpful, thanks.
 
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I have gotten many blood tests, but those tests didn’t include the Lyme test. I just got tested for Lyme about three weeks ago and it was negative. I don’t know what type of Lyme test they did, but ill ask them this friday This Friday im going to my doctors and going to ask him, to give me a full MRI.

The main reason why I think I have Lyme is because most of my symptoms match the lyme symptoms. Here are my symptoms : hair loss, weight loss(12 pounds), vison problems, muscle twitching, non stop earring, brain fog, fatigue, numbness, and also tingling sensations in my hands and feet. I know your not a doctor but I just wanted to list them down, to see what you think.


Hi LoveandLight,

Did your Doctor test you for Thyroid function, and check for Type 2 Diabetes? Hair loss can be caused by a malfunctioning thyroid gland, and the nerve tingles might be Diabetes related. I'm not a doctor, but I have known people with the same symptoms that later showed to be one or both of these problems. And may I ask why you want the MRI? I don't know of anything related to Lyme disease that could show up on an MRI scan. :/

Keep on keeping on! :)
 
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LoveAndLight said:
I might be probably wrong with my diagnose, because Lyme mimics so many other diseases. However I know I have some type of disease so I will watch my diet carefully and take supplements that I need to take this sucker out! I also will keep researching. Any input will be helpful, thanks.

Read also "Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" by Rodger Murphree, you can get an e-book here: http://www.treatingandbeating.com/aboutbooks.html
 
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Hi Gimpy,

Yes my doctor tested me for those and the test came back good. The reason why I want to get a MRI is to just check if I have any other abnormalities in my body.

Hi Psyche,

I will surly look into it. Thanks.

Sorry if my posts do not make sense or seems unclear, I'm not a good writer. Also I have a hard time telling my story because I'm really insecure about my issues(hope you guys don't think I'm a baked noodle or something lol), but I'm working on my networking skills.
 
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Hi Love and Light,
I don't know if you've tried any herbal remedies for Lyme yet. I recently attended a natural health lecture by P. Fritchey, N.D., M.H. (naturopathic doctor, master herbalist) and he reported great success (as in no more symptoms) using teasel root tincture to for his lyme's disease. Here's a link to his webpage. http://hisgoodherbs.com/Home_Page.html
Matthew Wood, one of the top herbalists in the US, has also had great success, though not necessarily a 100% cure for everyone, with teasel as a treatment for lyme. He writes about it in his book The Book Of Herbal Wisdom: Using Plants as Medicines. Here's another link to a short video on how to identify teasel: http://www.articlesbase.com/videos/5min/159208905. In the video they don't show the root, which is what is needed.
I scanned a class handout with identifying photos and directions to make your own tincture but I can't figure out how to attach it. Grrr! (If someone can help me out I'd appreciate it.) I found a whole heap of the stuff and made up a few batches. It has reportedly been used for chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, ALS, Parkinson's, MS, stroke damage and age related dementia as well.


Here's an article that can be found at Dr. Fritchey's site:
Lyme-Aid
A personal journey of discovery.

From Healthkeepers Magazine, Vol. 8, Issue 2 (Spring, 2006)
"Ask an Herbalist" - Philip Fritchey, M.H., N.D., CNHP

Q: After three years of struggle with a debilitating condition that caused me to quit my job and virtually all my activities - and caused many of my friends to quit me - I was finally diagnosed with Lyme disease. So far, after 3 months of IV antibiotics, I am having some limited improvement. I have been temporarily pulled from that treatment, though, because it caused my liver enzymes to go crazy. One of my true stand-by-me friends heard about an herb called Teasel, but my local herb shops don't have it, or any information about it. What can you tell me about this plant and Lyme. I need some hope tonight!

A: Lyme is not a disease for sissies, to be sure, and the symptoms of mental fog, chronic joint and muscle pain, and unrelenting fatigue can be very hard for those around you to appreciate or deal with. I have personally been struggling with Lyme disease for some time now. It has been almost six years since my encounter with the tick. The condition has been a roller-coaster experience that has served to humble my smugness, challenge and re-empower my Faith, and impress me with a sense of precious value for health of body and mind that I never could have imagined - and always took for granted.

I have tried most every rational protocol that I could find. In spite of occasional temporary reprieves, the bug took such hold of me through the Spring and Summer of last year, I truly felt that the fatigue and mental "fog" would force me to stop teaching and writing. I stopped seeing clients personally, and I could barely muster the energy to keep our skin care business going. The joint and muscle pain was so intense that gardening, field forays, and exercise in general seemed impossible, and, as a result, I put on nearly 30 pounds. It was not a pretty sight.

I had discussed the situation with some students from one of my Herbology classes in Tulsa last Spring, and in September, I received a letter from one of them. He had run across a section in Matthew Wood's really excellent book, "The Book of Herbal Wisdom". Wood recorded his limited but positive experience with Lyme, using the root of Teasel (Dipsacus spp.), an herb completely unfamiliar to me. A little internet research showed he was not alone, so I tracked down some of the tincture. (It is not easy to find. One species of the plant is used in Chinese medicine, but traditional Western herbal history is virtually silent on its use.) Whether from hope or desperation, Wood's short discourse on it was sufficient to get me to try it.

At the risk of melodrama, I can only say that, so far at least, the result has been nothing short of miraculous. Within three days of starting with the very small dosage recommended by Wood (1 - 5 drops, 3 times daily), the fog lifted, the fatigue melted away, and though it took longer, the joint and muscle pain subsided, and has continued to improve since. I feel like my life has been given back to me.

The only negative experience with my treatment came through an enthusiastically reasoned, but ill-advised short experiment with higher doses. That quickly promoted a massive intensification of the symptoms - called the "Herxheimer effect" by Lyme sufferers - that just as quickly went away when the dose was reduced again. (Some long-term sufferers even take a peculiar pleasure from that effect - kind of a "getting even" satisfaction from thinking that the bug is suffering for a change. I, for one, take greater pleasure from symptom-free days, and from the conviction that I am winning the long-term battle. For that, I am convinced that only patience and persistence will suffice.)

So dramatic were the effects that I felt compelled to use some of my newly recovered energy to find the herb in its natural environs. With the help of some USDA distribution maps, a couple of Forest Rangers, and the Forest Service's Regional Botanist, I located and harvested a supply from a small stand in the Pisgah National Forest in western North Carolina. (It is considered a "rank weed" by them, and I was told to "have at it" when I asked about digging it. Of course, I took care to scatter the seeds well so that small stand will be somewhat larger next year. One man's weed is another man's medicine.)

This is a largely undocumented herb, and there is much to learn about it. Subsequent research shows that the herb's range in the U.S. almost exactly parallels the range of the Lyme carrying deer tick - an observation that quite comfortably fits my notion of natural cures. (God provides the solution to all our trials, and it is always close at hand - if we only learn what to look for.) I converted my harvest into tincture, and over the winter I have made it available to students and practitioners working with Lyme and related, often mis-diagnosed conditions - chronic fatigue, Epstein Barr, fibromyalgia, ALS, etc. So far, the feedback has been very positive, often equally dramatic. It is my sense that the herb may also be well-suited for age-related dementia and memory issues. Please note that the recommended dosage is low - outside the norm - and while I detect no toxicity from it, I would advise following that recommendation.

I have not been able to find out much about this plant's chemistry - something that doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does some. (The active constituent is Teasel... works for me.) I'm sure all that will make itself known over time, just as I am certain that the herb and its usable forms will become more generally available as others discover its benefits. With a little diligent searching, it can be found on the Internet - produced by a hand full of individual herbalists around the country. I have also committed to producing as much as we can until more traditional suppliers catch on and catch up.

Six months after starting with the herb, I feel better than I have in a very long time, and, despite the anxieties that stem from my previous experiences with treatment, I have no sense of temporality. I've even gotten to where I forget to take it for a day, sometimes two, and have not experienced any regression. I'm not sure yet whether I'm confident that it is a "cure", but, at the very least, it makes living with the condition gloriously possible.—

This is just fwiw. It may be worth doing some further research and experimentation.
 

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