ugly duckling
The Force is Strong With This One
I don't know what got me thinking about tobacco as a possible preventative/remedy for swine flu but in looking into this, I did come across this link:
http://diseases-viruses.suite101.com/article.cfm/nicotine_antiinflammatory_h1n1_cure
I thought this was an interesting article, considering the current discussion about the vagus nerve in the breathing program thread, inflammation in Diet and Health and swine flu in general. I hope this article hasn't already been posted before.
http://diseases-viruses.suite101.com/article.cfm/nicotine_antiinflammatory_h1n1_cure
I thought this was an interesting article, considering the current discussion about the vagus nerve in the breathing program thread, inflammation in Diet and Health and swine flu in general. I hope this article hasn't already been posted before.
Perhaps another clue is in hormone imbalances. Traditionally, smoking has been considered to have a protective effect against endometrial cancer because smoking reduces the levels of estrogens (this is what textbooks says anyway). So if candida thrives when levels of estrogen are high, then smoking might have a protective action against candida too.seek10 said:
Further info:
Smoking linked to decrease in uterine cancer risk
_http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKCOL56218920080715
Estrogen dominance and candida:
_http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/estrogendominance.html
_http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/will-progesterone-help-cure-thrush/
If smoking helps against estrogen dominance, I'll never quit smoking
:)I came across some studies trying to debunk the benefits of smoking and endometrial cancer, but none are convincing enough, IMO.
Psyche said:Perhaps another clue is in hormone imbalances. Traditionally, smoking has been considered to have a protective effect against endometrial cancer because smoking reduces the levels of estrogens (this is what textbooks says anyway). So if candida thrives when levels of estrogen are high, then smoking might have a protective action against candida too.seek10 said:
Further info:
Smoking linked to decrease in uterine cancer risk
_http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKCOL56218920080715
Estrogen dominance and candida:
_http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/estrogendominance.html
_http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/will-progesterone-help-cure-thrush/
If smoking helps against estrogen dominance, I'll never quit smoking
I came across some studies trying to debunk the benefits of smoking and endometrial cancer, but none are convincing enough, IMO.
thank you psyche for the reply. Now I can smoke with peace.
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
I thought I would share this as I've just bought a pipe and tried smoking for the first time. It's called 'The Thermodynamics of Pipe Smoking': _http://www.apassionforpipes.com/A_Passion_for_Pipes/Blog/Entries/2009/2/17_The_Thermodynamics_of_Pipe_Smoking.html
The first night I tried smoking it tasted quite sweet and really enjoyed it apart from the fact that I couldn't keep it lit for more than a few puffs. The next few times it tasted quite bitter, more like an ashy taste. After some looking around on the net I realized that the first night I used a match and the other times a butane lighter. A butane lighter apparently burns far too hot for pipe tobacco.
[quote author="apassionforpipes.com"]For example, pipe tobacco burns on average (in the combustion zone) at about 500 degrees Celsius. Cigarettes burn at about 670 degrees Celsius, and cigars burn at an intermediate average between pipes and cigarettes. With each smoking instrument, however, there is variability in temperature. For example, the maximum temperature a pipe smoker might achieve is 620 degrees Celsius whereas someone who has cultivated a slow, cool smoking style might smoke as low as 380 degrees Celsius. As you might surmise, this variability in temperature significantly impacts smoke temperature on the tongue, sensitivity of the palate, and most important, the actual flavor of the tobacco blend being smoked. How is flavor affected?[/quote]
[quote author="apassionforpipes.com"]When I considered that there are still people who use butane torches to light their pipes, and that these devices produce temperatures of 2,500 degrees Celsius - the temperature of the Sun - I was flabbergasted.[/quote]
I thought I would share this as I've just bought a pipe and tried smoking for the first time. It's called 'The Thermodynamics of Pipe Smoking': _http://www.apassionforpipes.com/A_Passion_for_Pipes/Blog/Entries/2009/2/17_The_Thermodynamics_of_Pipe_Smoking.html
The first night I tried smoking it tasted quite sweet and really enjoyed it apart from the fact that I couldn't keep it lit for more than a few puffs. The next few times it tasted quite bitter, more like an ashy taste. After some looking around on the net I realized that the first night I used a match and the other times a butane lighter. A butane lighter apparently burns far too hot for pipe tobacco.
[quote author="apassionforpipes.com"]For example, pipe tobacco burns on average (in the combustion zone) at about 500 degrees Celsius. Cigarettes burn at about 670 degrees Celsius, and cigars burn at an intermediate average between pipes and cigarettes. With each smoking instrument, however, there is variability in temperature. For example, the maximum temperature a pipe smoker might achieve is 620 degrees Celsius whereas someone who has cultivated a slow, cool smoking style might smoke as low as 380 degrees Celsius. As you might surmise, this variability in temperature significantly impacts smoke temperature on the tongue, sensitivity of the palate, and most important, the actual flavor of the tobacco blend being smoked. How is flavor affected?[/quote]
[quote author="apassionforpipes.com"]When I considered that there are still people who use butane torches to light their pipes, and that these devices produce temperatures of 2,500 degrees Celsius - the temperature of the Sun - I was flabbergasted.[/quote]
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
Well, the estimated temperature of the Sun is 6000 degrees C (11,000 degrees F) - so the information you're quoting is way off.
Also, the temperature of some butane lighters can be more than 1093 degrees C (2000 degrees F) under certain conditions, which is really hot, but nowhere near the estimated temperature of the surface of the sun.
Perhaps our more avid pipe smokers will chime in on how they've experienced the effects of different modes of ignition as well!
Well, the estimated temperature of the Sun is 6000 degrees C (11,000 degrees F) - so the information you're quoting is way off.
Also, the temperature of some butane lighters can be more than 1093 degrees C (2000 degrees F) under certain conditions, which is really hot, but nowhere near the estimated temperature of the surface of the sun.
Perhaps our more avid pipe smokers will chime in on how they've experienced the effects of different modes of ignition as well!
pete02
The Living Force
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
Just to post an update on my progress, I quit smoking again. :P I tried for a few months but it didn't seem to have any beneficial effect on me and I started feeling like I was becoming addicted to smoking again. So much for my thoughts about organic not being addictive! I'm not quite sure what a beneficial effect would feel like to be honest but with the Eiriu-Eolas program right now I feel much better breathing without.
Just to post an update on my progress, I quit smoking again. :P I tried for a few months but it didn't seem to have any beneficial effect on me and I started feeling like I was becoming addicted to smoking again. So much for my thoughts about organic not being addictive! I'm not quite sure what a beneficial effect would feel like to be honest but with the Eiriu-Eolas program right now I feel much better breathing without.
dant
The Living Force
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
It depends on the lighter.
You can get a electronic Butane lighter that is not designed like a
blow-torch and probably designed for kids who like to burn holes
in things and especially glass pipes.
Mine is a Lucienne Pipe lighter. This is the exact model:
_http://store.weblighter.com/4936.html
Google: `Pipe Lighters' and you'll find quite a few. Recommend
that you get (1) Piezo and (2) Butane refillable (3) High quality,
durable, and long lasting but not overpriced.
Cheers!
Dan
Jeff P said:
It depends on the lighter.
You can get a electronic Butane lighter that is not designed like a
blow-torch and probably designed for kids who like to burn holes
in things and especially glass pipes.
Mine is a Lucienne Pipe lighter. This is the exact model:
_http://store.weblighter.com/4936.html
Google: `Pipe Lighters' and you'll find quite a few. Recommend
that you get (1) Piezo and (2) Butane refillable (3) High quality,
durable, and long lasting but not overpriced.
Cheers!
Dan
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
My Mom bought a rolling machine as I was encouraging her to move to a more natural tobacco. That seemed like a good way to reduce the cost. One thing we noticed, it is not as easy as it looks, requires a learning curve to use and some significant arm power.
She purchased the American Spirit – I think the lightest version she could find, but it’s still significantly stronger than the commercial brand she’s used to. The machine is made for pre-rolled papers with filters and they told her it was the selection of paper/filters that makes the difference between a “light” cigarette and a stronger one. She bought the so-called “light” version – but it almost made her dizzy - so she has not used the machine lately. As the cigarette prices keep going up, she is going to look again at tobacco and papers and I guess she will be growing it in the garden before long!
BTW, recently I was searching through an herb book for herbs to support the renal system. One of those is horsetail – and I happened to notice that it contains both silica and nicotine. So, I was wondering if people who have objections to smoking could derive some benefit from supplementing with the herb - maybe as a tea. When I did some research, not all the sites mention the nicotine. This source said “Some studies have found that horsetail also may help improve memory and cognitive function.” Although it could be from other ingredients…I am not sure.
(_http://www.livingnaturally.com/common/adam/DisplayMonograph.asp?storeID=5116A1C390B3427B9A5029C50AA34551&DocID=33_000257)
According to this site: _http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_horsetail.htm
“Horsetail also contains minute traces of nicotine at 0.00004 percent of total volume”
That led me to think that there is not enough in the herb to matter, however on another site it states that “Large doses of horsetail may cause symptoms of nicotine overdose, including fever, cold hands and feet, abnormal heart rate, difficulty walking, muscle weakness, and weight loss. People who smoke or who use nicotine patches or nicotine gum should avoid horsetail. From:
_http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-horsetail.html
Of course they do not mention what a “large dose” really means, but if it can do that, there must be enough to be physically active. And the benefits to skin, hair, nails and bones from the silica are definitely a plus, so this might be helpful.
My Mom bought a rolling machine as I was encouraging her to move to a more natural tobacco. That seemed like a good way to reduce the cost. One thing we noticed, it is not as easy as it looks, requires a learning curve to use and some significant arm power.
She purchased the American Spirit – I think the lightest version she could find, but it’s still significantly stronger than the commercial brand she’s used to. The machine is made for pre-rolled papers with filters and they told her it was the selection of paper/filters that makes the difference between a “light” cigarette and a stronger one. She bought the so-called “light” version – but it almost made her dizzy - so she has not used the machine lately. As the cigarette prices keep going up, she is going to look again at tobacco and papers and I guess she will be growing it in the garden before long!
BTW, recently I was searching through an herb book for herbs to support the renal system. One of those is horsetail – and I happened to notice that it contains both silica and nicotine. So, I was wondering if people who have objections to smoking could derive some benefit from supplementing with the herb - maybe as a tea. When I did some research, not all the sites mention the nicotine. This source said “Some studies have found that horsetail also may help improve memory and cognitive function.” Although it could be from other ingredients…I am not sure.
(_http://www.livingnaturally.com/common/adam/DisplayMonograph.asp?storeID=5116A1C390B3427B9A5029C50AA34551&DocID=33_000257)
According to this site: _http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_horsetail.htm
“Horsetail also contains minute traces of nicotine at 0.00004 percent of total volume”
That led me to think that there is not enough in the herb to matter, however on another site it states that “Large doses of horsetail may cause symptoms of nicotine overdose, including fever, cold hands and feet, abnormal heart rate, difficulty walking, muscle weakness, and weight loss. People who smoke or who use nicotine patches or nicotine gum should avoid horsetail. From:
_http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-horsetail.html
Of course they do not mention what a “large dose” really means, but if it can do that, there must be enough to be physically active. And the benefits to skin, hair, nails and bones from the silica are definitely a plus, so this might be helpful.
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
Sounds like she bought a "shooter", which is not for beginners who haven't used a rolling machine like that before. The shooters do require arm strength too. You might want to get her a different roller, the kind that you can just use your thumbs to spin the roller/paper and needs much less strength. Like this:
Also, it could be the papers that are making her feel dizzy. Their are several lighter papers on the market, which are less intensive on the lungs. Depending on your locale, look for the rice papers or ultra thin brands like Rizla and see if that doesn't make a difference.
annp said:
Sounds like she bought a "shooter", which is not for beginners who haven't used a rolling machine like that before. The shooters do require arm strength too. You might want to get her a different roller, the kind that you can just use your thumbs to spin the roller/paper and needs much less strength. Like this:
Also, it could be the papers that are making her feel dizzy. Their are several lighter papers on the market, which are less intensive on the lungs. Depending on your locale, look for the rice papers or ultra thin brands like Rizla and see if that doesn't make a difference.
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
Sorry for the delay in response, I just read your post right now. The reason I started smoking was because I read both of these articles posted in a previous thread http://www.sott.net/signs/anti-anti-smoking.htm and http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/diet.htm
So I decided to give it a shot. See if there really are benefits to nicotine intake, in particular to my memory. I don't know anything about increase in psychic abilities and as such, but if it could also potentially help me regulate my metabolism, and if I am able to get naturally grown and manufactured Tobacco, then I'll give it a shot and see what happens. As anart suggested, I need to do what works best for my body, so I'm observing what happens, when I smoke, how I feel, is there an increase in memory capacity or recall, have my eating habits changed. Now, after some trial and error, I know when I should and shouldn't smoke just by how I feel or what I am doing before I decide to light up.
Although due to recently finding out the brand of American Spirit I purchase is only guaranteed Additive free during the manufacturing process and not the growing process, I smoked my last pack a few days ago, unless I can find their Organic Blend (Red Pack) here in Canada.
Here are some excerpts that caught my attention from the articles.
Galahad said:
Sorry for the delay in response, I just read your post right now. The reason I started smoking was because I read both of these articles posted in a previous thread http://www.sott.net/signs/anti-anti-smoking.htm and http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/diet.htm
So I decided to give it a shot. See if there really are benefits to nicotine intake, in particular to my memory. I don't know anything about increase in psychic abilities and as such, but if it could also potentially help me regulate my metabolism, and if I am able to get naturally grown and manufactured Tobacco, then I'll give it a shot and see what happens. As anart suggested, I need to do what works best for my body, so I'm observing what happens, when I smoke, how I feel, is there an increase in memory capacity or recall, have my eating habits changed. Now, after some trial and error, I know when I should and shouldn't smoke just by how I feel or what I am doing before I decide to light up.
Although due to recently finding out the brand of American Spirit I purchase is only guaranteed Additive free during the manufacturing process and not the growing process, I smoked my last pack a few days ago, unless I can find their Organic Blend (Red Pack) here in Canada.
Here are some excerpts that caught my attention from the articles.
henry
The Cosmic Force
Re: new to smoking :what are the healthy guidelines.
Daniel, as anart said, it is very important to listen to your body. Not everyone should or needs to smoke.
I have heard that the American Spirit products are no longer distributed in Canada, that once existing supplies on hand at the distributors run out, that is it. :(
Daniel, as anart said, it is very important to listen to your body. Not everyone should or needs to smoke.
I have heard that the American Spirit products are no longer distributed in Canada, that once existing supplies on hand at the distributors run out, that is it. :(
