Smoking is... good?

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Re: Lyme and Smoking

Hi wroteck,

I do not know more than is available in the links and information on this thread. There is an herbal preparation that includes Japanese teasel root in one of Odyssey's posts above. I do not know if this preparation is identical to that used by my friend.

My friend has had lyme disease for fifteen years. He was treated with antibotics approximately every two years for ten years, as the symptoms reoccured, as the spirochete reestablished itself in his tissues, apparently after surviving the antibotic treatment in cyst form or in body tissue not penetrated by antibotics. He has used the Chinese herbal preparation, which includes Japanese teasel root for the last five years, without reoccurence of symptoms.
 
Re: Lyme and Smoking

That is wonderful to know Your friend is doing so good. According to Lady Barbara, japanese teasel is not good. She knows one case that used japanese teasel and it did not help.
 
Just an update for any it might help.

Finally found some Zig Zag ultra thin papers at a cheap cigarette place here in town. Much better. :)

I am apparently allergic to the American Spirit flax papers. I got what I thought was cold sore on my lip. After a few day not using those it is clearing up.

And the Bulger are indeed nasty. Very harsh. Burned way too fast and I didn't feel good after.

Really good smoke with the Zig Zag.

Thanks for the info, Jason

Mac
 
Yeah, I agree with Jason about the importance of moisture. Just be careful when you put a damp paper towel in with the tobacco, as in my experience it could quickly get moldy.

In the past, until about 5 years ago, I used to smoke exclusively Gauloise roll your own with a filter holder for a few years. They're pretty heavy, but really moist with a strong flavor. If you don't mind really heavy tobacco, you mind want to try it. But I don't remember what the amount of tar was listed on it. Also not sure if Gauloise have additives. But it's an example of very moist tobacco which really is much easier to roll. Generally, I've gotten into the habit since to buy tobacco, even pre-rolled, with the highest nicotine content and lowest tar listed.
 
Lung cancer in non-smokers?

Hi,

I read "In Defense of Smokers", and after having done so I was curious to try and find images of lung cancer in people who are NOT smoking. I tried Googling for it, but came up with nothing. Not a single one. Has anyone else been able to find pictures of what lung cancer looks in non-smokers? That would be highly appreciated!
 
I happened to try some marlboro snus today...

All i can say for that is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

It had this nasty cherry type flavoring or something and i would have really enjoyed snus had it not been for that. :D

I had to rinse my mouth out umpteen times to get that nastiness off my tongue.

Maybe i should try the genuine stuff.
 
Re: Lung cancer in non-smokers?

As I understand it, most of the images of lung cancer in "smokers" are really images of lung cancer in people who have worked in mines or in other industries where pollutants other than cigarettes are at high levels.

Blaming it on cigarettes is an easy way to avoid detection and reaction and cost.

Same with blaming obesity on overeating ... distracts attention from the fact that the foods people are eating are causing their metabolisms to go nuts, generating autoimmune diseases, etc.
 
Re: Lung cancer in non-smokers?

Laura said:
As I understand it, most of the images of lung cancer in "smokers" are really images of lung cancer in people who have worked in mines or in other industries where pollutants other than cigarettes are at high levels.

Blaming it on cigarettes is an easy way to avoid detection and reaction and cost.

Same with blaming obesity on overeating ... distracts attention from the fact that the foods people are eating are causing their metabolisms to go nuts, generating autoimmune diseases, etc.
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True. But are there really no publically available images of lung cancer in a non-smoker? That would be *so* revealing! Or is that specifically why they are so hard to find, I suppose?
 
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I happened to try some marlboro snus today...

All i can say for that is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

It had this nasty cherry type flavoring or something and i would have really enjoyed snus had it not been for that. :D

I had to rinse my mouth out umpteen times to get that nastiness off my tongue.

Maybe i should try the genuine stuff.
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If you haven't used snuff much before, I would very much doubt you would like it :) I've been doing it for 30+ years (Copenhagen -- not the powdered stuff) and it still tastes bad. It is just super addictive and I got started through peer pressure and the high we would get from it. No "noticable" high or rush now of course, but boy the addition is there. I definitely am going to try smoking when time permits to get the appropriate materials. I mainly want to find some kind of good roller thing that will roll the cigarette for me from the paper. I plan to try American Spirit Organic.
 
abstract said:
I happened to try some marlboro snus today...

All i can say for that is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

It had this nasty cherry type flavoring or something and i would have really enjoyed snus had it not been for that. :D

I had to rinse my mouth out umpteen times to get that nastiness off my tongue.

Maybe i should try the genuine stuff.
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I've heard from several guys that the Marlboro and Camel snus are indeed pretty gross. I like the General Mini Mints the best. Good for times when I can't smoke. Even used them at work a few times. They don't show on my lip and don't affect my speech.
(I notice that my immediate supervisor sometimes has a jaw full of dippin" tobacco.)

The General White Full Portion Mints are good too, but much stronger.

Mac
 
Hey all, trying out some camel snus. I actually like this one. It's called "frost", has a nice mint taste to it.

Doesn't taste like the marlboro snus at all.

On the side of the package it of course says that it can give you mouth cancer and tooth loss, which made me almost laugh, they've

researched snus to death (i've said this before but i feel it worth mentioning again.) and can't find anything wrong with it. So, nice try on their

part with the scare tactics, eh? Obviously the camel has additives but it doesn't leave any nasty taste behind, so that's good enough for me

until i find something better. The reason I bought the snus was because I'm now in my new abode w/ sister so i figured snus would be useful to have

around while i'm working on the computer or something, since i can't smoke inside. It gives you a good tingle and you keep them in for 30

minutes (apologies if someone else mentioned some of these details earlier).
 
here is a little tidbit about smoking that was mentioned on the (fantastic) BBC show "Q.I." (with stephen fry)
Stephen
Now, lastly: Was it a good idea for airlines to ban smoking?

[...]

Well, the question is . . . It was almost certainly a bad idea, erm . . . It was a lousy idea, in fact, 'cause when smoking was allowed, the cabin air was completely replaced with fresh air every three minutes, and now, the airlines save money . . . they save up to 6% of their fuel bills by using a mixture of fresh and recycled air--

[...]

--yeah . . . using under half the amount of fresh air needed for comfort; increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the cabin; causing dizziness, and nausea, and allowing viruses to thrive. Passengers think that, because they can't smell smoke, the air is fresher. This is not so. Apart from anything else, it has dramatically increased the number of air rage incidents.
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well, so another "advantage" of the anti-smoking crusade for the PTB is the fact that pathogens can survive much better in this no-smoking cabin air...
i'm sure that comes in handy when propagating new viruses.
 
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